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February 22, 2014, 08:57:57 AM |
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is it provably fair? thanks
Poker fairness is kinda intrinsically impossible to prove. There are lots of way cheating can occur. That said I feel highly confident after many many months of play at seals that the site and software are honest and fair. thanks, but that is only a feeling
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February 22, 2014, 09:31:46 AM |
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is it provably fair? thanks
It's impossible to be provably fair for a variety of reasons, because most cheating occurs through collusion and because you are not allowed to see the other players' cards unless a hand goes to showdown. So how could you prove that results you don't know are actually fair? You can only show that it's probably fair. You can also show that people are probably cheating, especially if they are obvious about it. This whole issue has been discussed in thorough detail in many previous threads, including this one.
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tonino
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February 22, 2014, 10:13:21 AM |
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is it provably fair? thanks
It's impossible to be provably fair for a variety of reasons, because most cheating occurs through collusion and because you are not allowed to see the other players' cards unless a hand goes to showdown. So how could you prove that results you don't know are actually fair? You can only show that it's probably fair. You can also show that people are probably cheating, especially if they are obvious about it. This whole issue has been discussed in thorough detail in many previous threads, including this one. thanks very much for explaining and sorry for asking because I didnt want to through the whole thread
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February 22, 2014, 11:02:42 AM |
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I've gotta 103k krill account for sale...
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February 22, 2014, 12:58:31 PM |
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I've gotta 103k krill account for sale...
price? would be willing to pay 1.5 BTC for it. let me know if you´re interested
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donk4u
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February 22, 2014, 01:44:47 PM |
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1.5 bitcoins? he was looking for 11bitcoins on grindabit
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February 22, 2014, 01:51:21 PM |
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1.5 bitcoins? he was looking for 11bitcoins on grindabit
11 BTC? how is such a price justified? I mean what do you get from the 103000 krill except access to a few krillrolls (which will always become less value in the future due to more participants who reach these krill levels)... and a bit rakeback
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tonino
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February 22, 2014, 01:59:50 PM |
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can one send coins to other accounts in SWC? thanks
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NLNico
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February 22, 2014, 02:00:21 PM |
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can one send coins to other accounts in SWC? thanks
What? You can internally transfer chips to each other.. yes.
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tonino
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February 22, 2014, 02:30:31 PM |
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can one send coins to other accounts in SWC? thanks
What? You can internally transfer chips to each other.. yes. yeah thats what I meant, so it is allowed to transfer chips to each other? thanks
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February 22, 2014, 06:46:37 PM |
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I will need to receive full forum gratification from lluboski for 11am PST / 2pm EST 20 chip deeper then we can move along to the 1k structure
1) Sometime it take time, but eventually Mikon do the right thing,(if you are persistent).I take back my suggestion that he should run for public office (lol,that was harsh). Seriously,thanks for understanding. I am not sure if it was good gratification (I am not good ass kisser)here is some more. Sometime it look like I am very unsatisfied with Seals (judging from PM's Seals competitors sending me), that's not the case.I am happy Seals player. I appreciate that Seals introduced me to Bitcoin,my funds security,management fairness and integrity, the whole gaming environment Seals created. I understand that is not easy with limited funds to grow player base,improve software ,create larger tournaments and stay independent. With that being said,Seals need little push to keep improving, that what I try to do.
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February 23, 2014, 05:21:23 AM |
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Tournament schedule looking a lot better better lately Nice work Micon! 20 chip deeper was a great addition. A few gaps I still think need filled in: 00:00 PST 01:00 PST 09:00 PST 12:00 PST 17:00 (a non turbo option too please and some more in-between the hours would be good too. Obviously from players perspective the more tourneys the better. Overall the schedule is shaping up nicely and I see a lot of improvements lately. I think some type of ring game promotion would help out the action a ton as well as generate more rake revenue for the site. The straight/royal flush promo was fun. A rake race type would be good too. Merge network ran an interesting ring promo a while back which gave players of all stakes a fair shot. you got 1 point per raked hand regardless of rake amount. Top 100 players with the most points shared the prize pool. A lot of things would work I'm sure but ring could use some type of promotion IMO. Awesome Site! Keep up the good work.
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February 23, 2014, 01:41:32 PM |
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May even decrease field size first week because it's earlier, i.e. everyone will show up late for it this week. (sorry in advance, it's in the interest of progress)
Yeah, I got caught with this. Should be better in the future though. Any word on doing a monthly big bigbtc?
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February 23, 2014, 02:17:55 PM |
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Tournament schedule looking a lot better better lately Nice work Micon! 20 chip deeper was a great addition. A few gaps I still think need filled in: 00:00 PST 01:00 PST 09:00 PST 12:00 PST 17:00 (a non turbo option too please and some more in-between the hours would be good too. Obviously from players perspective the more tourneys the better. Overall the schedule is shaping up nicely and I see a lot of improvements lately. I think some type of ring game promotion would help out the action a ton as well as generate more rake revenue for the site. The straight/royal flush promo was fun. A rake race type would be good too. Merge network ran an interesting ring promo a while back which gave players of all stakes a fair shot. you got 1 point per raked hand regardless of rake amount. Top 100 players with the most points shared the prize pool. A lot of things would work I'm sure but ring could use some type of promotion IMO. Awesome Site! Keep up the good work. Agree with all of this. I mostly play during the late night hours and it feels like there is a gap between 23:00 and 02:00 Pacific. I also think some kind of ring game promotion would help keep games going. The overnight hours are obviously going to be slower but a lot of times there will be tables going that suddenly fall apart. It probably wouldn't take much to motivate people to continue playing and join multiple tables. I like the Krill system and the freerolls but it's more of an overall long term promotion. Once you reach the requirement for each freeroll the motivation to grind more "right now" lessens until you get close to the next level. Maybe a small weekly freeroll for players that earn a certain amount of Krill during the week. Or a freeroll for the top 50 Krill earners of the week. Maybe a raffle where you get one entry for every 500 Krill you earn that week. The prize probably doesn't even need to be very large. Even non-monetary things like custom avatars might be enough. Like Bitboom said a lot of different things would work. It just needs to be something that makes people feel the need to stay at the table. None of that is meant to sound like complaining, I love Seals and can see the improvements and am excited about the future.
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February 23, 2014, 06:20:23 PM |
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1) MTT suggestions noted. The "euro time" is where we overlay the hardest in the past, so I have to go very slow in that period. Note that I do plan to add during that time, it is clearly "dead" for MTTs and that's not cool.
2) but you know what is cool, the BIG BTC 20 bitcoin guarantee we snap off each and every Sunday. By far and away the biggest prizepool each week for bitcoin pokers.
GLGLGLGL all!
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February 23, 2014, 09:03:45 PM Last edit: February 23, 2014, 09:13:46 PM by Micon |
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starting in ~1hr no late reg 20 coin guaranteed prizepool #DontGetShutOut hall of records: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271942.0
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February 23, 2014, 11:34:06 PM |
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Does seals offer any kind of preventative measures againnst cheating? If I can prove that i was colluded against, would anything be done?
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February 23, 2014, 11:42:17 PM |
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Does seals offer any kind of preventative measures againnst cheating? If I can prove that i was colluded against, would anything be done?
Contact support.
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February 24, 2014, 05:24:18 AM |
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Does seals offer any kind of preventative measures againnst cheating? If I can prove that i was colluded against, would anything be done?
Contact support. This is a hypothetical question.
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February 24, 2014, 03:43:18 PM |
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Does seals offer any kind of preventative measures againnst cheating? If I can prove that i was colluded against, would anything be done?
Contact support. This is a hypothetical question. I have heard of people getting funds back when they have reported colluding and it could be proven.
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