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[djnocide]

I like the idea of N-factor 14. Can you elaborate more on how this can help as an interim measure?  What would be the impact of n-14 on the current mining scene?

N-14 would be nice to make things harder for n-scrypt capable ASIC, around the corner probably:
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2gn1qr/time_for_lyra2re/

I'm not sure we should talk about it anyway, when I just get short message from Bushido, about no change N.

It's better to focus on the switch to Lyra2 and create everything we'll need for the future, like a Marketing team and a dev team to support bushido's work

[cubevtc]

I'm not sure we should talk about it anyway, when I just get short message from Bushido, about no change N.

Did you skype you? Did he say why?

[nonny12]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

[djnocide]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

A good thing to do would be to contact them and asked them if they would be interested to come back to VTC.

[POM]

Is vert worth mining with these prices?

[jk_14]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

A good thing to do would be to contact them and asked them if they would be interested to come back to VTC.

Could you do it and share the answer?

[lmmjvsd]

I am a small miner who believes in vertcoin , what can I do to help ?
do not let it die slowly.
vtc has strengths
VTC can integrate supernet ?
I have hope and I keep my vtc.
Sorry for my very bad english...i am a little french worker  .

[turtoro]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

owww, you quoted me in that link.

Agree 1000% that it started with vertpay. All the developers came out the next day and and said they were emberessed by some in the community. Thing is, right after that time Othe and Fluffy started working on mONERO.

Same thing happened with Vertvote. And Adam basically has gone AWOL after that fiasco.

Dont hold out hope for the developers coming back, there is no reason for them to.

[jwinterm]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

owww, you quoted me in that link.

Agree 1000% that it started with vertpay. All the developers came out the next day and and said they were emberessed by some in the community. Thing is, right after that time Othe and Fluffy started working on mONERO.

Same thing happened with Vertvote. And Adam basically has gone AWOL after that fiasco.

Dont hold out hope for the developers coming back, there is no reason for them to.

While I agree to some extent with your statements about the Vertpay stuff, by the same token they were trying to get $300k worth of vert or something (at the time), while remaining for the most part anonymous. You'd have to expect a little healthy criticism and/or requests for more info about the people asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of coins.

I don't agree that the same thing happened with Vertvote. That may or may not have been a good idea, but the implementation was poorly conceived and extremely easy to game. How the hell do you expect to run a democracy on the honor system?

[turtoro]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

owww, you quoted me in that link.

Agree 1000% that it started with vertpay. All the developers came out the next day and and said they were emberessed by some in the community. Thing is, right after that time Othe and Fluffy started working on mONERO.

Same thing happened with Vertvote. And Adam basically has gone AWOL after that fiasco.

Dont hold out hope for the developers coming back, there is no reason for them to.

While I agree to some extent with your statements about the Vertpay stuff, by the same token they were trying to get $300k worth of vert or something (at the time), while remaining for the most part anonymous. You'd have to expect a little healthy criticism and/or requests for more info about the people asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of coins.

I don't agree that the same thing happened with Vertvote. That may or may not have been a good idea, but the implementation was poorly conceived and extremely easy to game. How the hell do you expect to run a democracy on the honor system?

I never ever ever tried to make a case for or against either vertvote or vertpay. The issue was the inflammatory rhetoric and downright character assassination that occurred with both cases. It left a bad taste in many peoples mouths causing them to say "you know what, fuck this community, I dont need to deal with this shit"

[jwinterm]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

owww, you quoted me in that link.

Agree 1000% that it started with vertpay. All the developers came out the next day and and said they were emberessed by some in the community. Thing is, right after that time Othe and Fluffy started working on mONERO.

Same thing happened with Vertvote. And Adam basically has gone AWOL after that fiasco.

Dont hold out hope for the developers coming back, there is no reason for them to.

While I agree to some extent with your statements about the Vertpay stuff, by the same token they were trying to get $300k worth of vert or something (at the time), while remaining for the most part anonymous. You'd have to expect a little healthy criticism and/or requests for more info about the people asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of coins.

I don't agree that the same thing happened with Vertvote. That may or may not have been a good idea, but the implementation was poorly conceived and extremely easy to game. How the hell do you expect to run a democracy on the honor system?

I never ever ever tried to make a case for or against either vertvote or vertpay. The issue was the inflammatory rhetoric and downright character assassination that occurred with both cases. It left a bad taste in many peoples mouths causing them to say "you know what, fuck this community, I dont need to deal with this shit"

OK, didn't mean to falsely attribute. I don't remember any character assassination in the case of vertvote, though, to be honest.

[lmmjvsd]

hello 
Is it possible that VTC integrate supernet ?

[jwinterm]

hello 
Is it possible that VTC integrate supernet ?

Is supernet functional? Does it even exist yet, or purely hype?

[lmmjvsd]

it implements
future project

[djnocide]

We still need to find a way to promote this community with devs to support bushido, marketing team and members willing to create projects based on VTC.

[jk_14]

We still need to find a way to promote this community with devs to support bushido, marketing team and members willing to create projects based on VTC.

News:

"I will give a talk in the Hasher's United Conference - http://hashersunited.com/. If you would like to know what's next step in details, you can see me there.
In addition, we currently are accepting developers. If you are interested in the position, please send me an email to bushido[at]vertcoin.org. I will contact you back asap."

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2ie5sl/im_still_here_will_see_you_at_hashers_united/

[djnocide]

We still need to find a way to promote this community with devs to support bushido, marketing team and members willing to create projects based on VTC.

News:

"I will give a talk in the Hasher's United Conference - http://hashersunited.com/. If you would like to know what's next step in details, you can see me there.
In addition, we currently are accepting developers. If you are interested in the position, please send me an email to bushido[at]vertcoin.org. I will contact you back asap."

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2ie5sl/im_still_here_will_see_you_at_hashers_united/

Good news, we need to rebuild this community one step at a time.

[Jiggy0001]

Nice... Soon my orders will be filled at 0.000098 

[cnerd]

Looking back, the VertPay fiasco at the start of May seems to be the start (or at least the acceleration) of the massive decline for Vertcoin. All of the people who raised objections to VertPay and other developers who wanted to create positive things for Vertcoin have moved on to other things. Since the community members who started this are gone, is there any hope in garnering support from the developers who used to be a part of Vertcoin? Basically, developers were trying to create great products centered around Vertcoin and community members lambasted them.

The essence of what occurred, for those who don't remember, or who weren't around, can be found in this reddit thread. Inflamatory discussions took place over many different threads during that time period, but this is generally what they were all about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/25a603/my_take_on_the_vertpay_issue_stay_far_away_they/chf71mk

owww, you quoted me in that link.

Agree 1000% that it started with vertpay. All the developers came out the next day and and said they were emberessed by some in the community. Thing is, right after that time Othe and Fluffy started working on mONERO.

Same thing happened with Vertvote. And Adam basically has gone AWOL after that fiasco.

Dont hold out hope for the developers coming back, there is no reason for them to.

While I agree to some extent with your statements about the Vertpay stuff, by the same token they were trying to get $300k worth of vert or something (at the time), while remaining for the most part anonymous. You'd have to expect a little healthy criticism and/or requests for more info about the people asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of coins.

I don't agree that the same thing happened with Vertvote. That may or may not have been a good idea, but the implementation was poorly conceived and extremely easy to game. How the hell do you expect to run a democracy on the honor system?

I never ever ever tried to make a case for or against either vertvote or vertpay. The issue was the inflammatory rhetoric and downright character assassination that occurred with both cases. It left a bad taste in many peoples mouths causing them to say "you know what, fuck this community, I dont need to deal with this shit"

so much this ^

Edit:
@Jiggy0001: stfu man

[Lucky - Luciano]

Nice... Soon my orders will be filled at 0.000098 

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