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[5ick3uffalo]

GOAAAALLL 2:0 Germany Win Win Win 

[5ick3uffalo]

There's always the option of running your own hardware if you think you can do it cheaper.    

Iyou know perfectly that at 0.0036 per MH/s the payer will never get his money back  

at 0.0036 per MH/s never, yes, true

I'm still trying to determine whether he has time traveled from the future and seen the difficulty changes, or if he has traveled from the past when the prices were 0.0036/Mhs.  Either way, he needs to patent that technology ASAP.  If he can share some lottery numbers with us I'll give him free hash power. 

For prediction difficult changes and btc price (and those two factors are big) you need a glass ball

You must have some brain damage, or you are just playing dumb because you are friend with the owner of the "service".

Dumb because i say you need a glassball to predict difficult jumps and btc price?
That´s a fact.

Germany beats Algeria anytime of the day - also a fact

And no i´m not a friend with the owner - just customer thats all.

[PBmining]

You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

That type of threat is illegal in most countries, I believe.  We will continue selling our hash power for what it's worth on the market.  The buyers set the price in the end, not us.  Supply and Demand.

[PBmining]

Also, I have constantly encouraged customers to use an Excel spreadsheet and measure their own risk:reward.  If we were trying to convince everyone that they are 100% certain to make a positive ROI, why would I encourage this method of calculating possible scenarios?  

[GODLIKE]

GOAAAALLL 2:0 Germany Win Win Win  

Darn... as you can see I have no glass ball, but I can bet 48651667069 BTC that in the next year the average increase of difficulty will be between 15 and 20% on every step of 11-13 days  

[wakhidNkcom]

There's always the option of running your own hardware if you think you can do it cheaper.    

Iyou know perfectly that at 0.0036 per MH/s the payer will never get his money back  

at 0.0036 per MH/s never, yes, true

I'm still trying to determine whether he has time traveled from the future and seen the difficulty changes, or if he has traveled from the past when the prices were 0.0036/Mhs.  Either way, he needs to patent that technology ASAP.  If he can share some lottery numbers with us I'll give him free hash power. 

You look a bit stupid with this question.

Here, if you are not a complete idiot, you can see that the difficulty is rising by around 15-20% on average for each step.
To be more precise, the average on the last 20 steps is around 18%, so my counts are even too sweet, as I based them on a 15% increase.
This last increase was a 24% hammer anyway.
And the more people will put power to mine (and this IS happening), the more the difficulty will rise.

But you know this perfectly, you are only playing dumb to not get your "activity" exposed  
I'll be here though, and I'll try to save as many people I can from cloud mining and especially from PBMining  
You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

hmm this guys making me think 1000 times for use cloud mining(currently i have investment some on PBmining and never get problem with payment) for BEP i think you're right.. and this is my question

Can you describe the comparative advantages and disadvantages of buying miner (1TH/s) and buy 1TH/s on PBmining

note : i'm just stupid people whose want to know more

[GODLIKE]

You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

That type of threat is illegal in most countries, I believe.  We will continue selling our hash power for what it's worth on the market.  The buyers set the price in the end, not us.  Supply and Demand.

Threat? I am threating you that I will make your possible users aware of your "product", that's all.
I will warn users that when they buy XX GH/s at YY price they won't almost surely get back their investment.

And if you think you can scare me with words you are far by a long long long shot, kiddy  

[PBmining]

You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

That type of threat is illegal in most countries, I believe.  We will continue selling our hash power for what it's worth on the market.  The buyers set the price in the end, not us.  Supply and Demand.

Threat? I am threating you that I will make your possible users aware of your "product", that's all.
I will warn users that when they buy XX GH/s at YY price they won't almost surely get back their investment.

And if you think you can scare me with words you are far by a long long long shot, kiddy  

You can tell users whatever you choose to.  But when you say "Lower your prices or else", then it's a different story. 

[GODLIKE]

There's always the option of running your own hardware if you think you can do it cheaper.    

Iyou know perfectly that at 0.0036 per MH/s the payer will never get his money back  

at 0.0036 per MH/s never, yes, true

I'm still trying to determine whether he has time traveled from the future and seen the difficulty changes, or if he has traveled from the past when the prices were 0.0036/Mhs.  Either way, he needs to patent that technology ASAP.  If he can share some lottery numbers with us I'll give him free hash power.  

You look a bit stupid with this question.

Here, if you are not a complete idiot, you can see that the difficulty is rising by around 15-20% on average for each step.
To be more precise, the average on the last 20 steps is around 18%, so my counts are even too sweet, as I based them on a 15% increase.
This last increase was a 24% hammer anyway.
And the more people will put power to mine (and this IS happening), the more the difficulty will rise.

But you know this perfectly, you are only playing dumb to not get your "activity" exposed  
I'll be here though, and I'll try to save as many people I can from cloud mining and especially from PBMining  
You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

hmm this guys making me think 1000 times for use cloud mining(currently i have investment some on PBmining and never get problem with payment) for BEP i think you're right.. and this is my question

Can you describe the comparative advantages and disadvantages of buying miner (1TH/s) and buy 1TH/s on PBmining

note : i'm just stupid people whose want to know more

I've just opened this thread.
This looks rewarding... on a 6-10 month period.
After that, if you pay your electricity, you can trash it as well, because buying BTC on the market will probably be less expensive.

If BTC explodes to 2000$ in one year, you will have your tree of money.

By contrast, if you buy 1 GH/s of cloud mining from a cloud service you are going to pay 470 GH/s a total of 1,692 BTC, that is 1080$.
Doesn't look too attractive, does it? 

If you put now 0.0036 BTC for 1 GH/s and the difficulty will keep increasing every around 12 days by 15-20%, you won't get back your investment. EVER.

[GODLIKE]

You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

That type of threat is illegal in most countries, I believe.  We will continue selling our hash power for what it's worth on the market.  The buyers set the price in the end, not us.  Supply and Demand.

Threat? I am threating you that I will make your possible users aware of your "product", that's all.
I will warn users that when they buy XX GH/s at YY price they won't almost surely get back their investment.

And if you think you can scare me with words you are far by a long long long shot, kiddy  

You can tell users whatever you choose to.  But when you say "Lower your prices or else", then it's a different story. 

You better lower your prices and give back at least some chance of recovery of investment or you'll find me here wasting your efforts every time I'll find a minute.

This here over is my exact sentence.
You have some problem with semantics or you are again playing dumb to look like a victim.

So I also repeat it more clearly:

I WILL BE HERE, WASTING YOUR EFFORTS OF SELLING STUFF THAT WILL MUCH PROBABLY NOT PAY BACK CLIENTS.
I WILL WARN THEM, NOT BECAUSE I HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU BUT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY BASED ON PLAYING ON GOOD FAITH OF PEOPLE.

Now go, make a judgement call 

[PBmining]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very nice ring to it.  

[byt411]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very good ring to it. 

Exactly. Also, even if you buy your own miner and you run it yourself, the btc/ghs price is still nearly the same. And why do people continue to buy them? Because they profit. Please keep your bashing to another thread.
PBMining, if needed, you can ask him to leave the thread, and if he doesn't, he may get banned.

[GODLIKE]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very good ring to it.  

Exactly. Also, even if you buy your own miner and you run it yourself, the btc/ghs price is still nearly the same. And why do people continue to buy them? Because they profit. Please keep your bashing to another thread.
PBMining, if needed, you can ask him to leave the thread, and if he doesn't, he may get banned.

Until you prove my (simple) math wrong, I will keep writing.
Unless the mod is your friend and warns me to not do so.

And why, instead of attacking me, you don't try to see what I've written and prove that I'm wrong?

BTW, kick me out of this thread and I'll open a page just to show up how a good investment PBMining is.
Time needed: couple of hours.

[GODLIKE]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very nice ring to it.  

Surely I'm not the first, but I'm here with good arguments I think.
Math is a good proof.

[PBmining]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very nice ring to it.  

Surely I'm not the first, but I'm here with good arguments I think.
Math is a good proof.

You are asking us to sell our hash power for less than what we purchased it for.  How is that reasonable? 

[byt411]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very nice ring to it.  

Surely I'm not the first, but I'm here with good arguments I think.
Math is a good proof.

You are asking us to sell our hash power for less than what we purchased it for.  How is that reasonable? 

OK. I'll prove your maths wrong.
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/d3e47a28c5

Done. Happy? Now stfu and gtfo.

[GODLIKE]

if you buy your own miner and you run it yourself, the btc/ghs price is still nearly the same.

Nearly the same.
I LOVE that  

http://www.coindesk.com/bitmain-releases-energy-efficient-478ghs-antminer-s3/

470 GH/s at 470$

1 GH/s at 0.0036 BTC =
470 GH/s at 1,692 BTC =
470 GH/s at 1065$

Nearly the same  

And with this I leave you.
See you soon  

[byt411]

if you buy your own miner and you run it yourself, the btc/ghs price is still nearly the same.

Nearly the same.
I LOVE that  

http://www.coindesk.com/bitmain-releases-energy-efficient-478ghs-antminer-s3/

470 GH/s at 470$

1 GH/s at 0.0036 BTC =
470 GH/s at 1,692 BTC =
470 GH/s at 1065$

Nearly the same  

And with this I leave you.
See you soon  

I had the impression that we were talking about miners that are actually hashing, and not miners yet to be shipped. You also forgot to add electricity costs and maintenance to your calculation. How about the PSU?
I don't even know why you are bashing at PBMining. Look at Cex.io. Seriously.

[PBmining]

if you buy your own miner and you run it yourself, the btc/ghs price is still nearly the same.

Nearly the same.
I LOVE that  

http://www.coindesk.com/bitmain-releases-energy-efficient-478ghs-antminer-s3/

470 GH/s at 470$

1 GH/s at 0.0036 BTC =
470 GH/s at 1,692 BTC =
470 GH/s at 1065$

Nearly the same  

And with this I leave you.
See you soon  

That's a great deal!  I wonder when they ship...

[GODLIKE]

You are not the first person to run around saying "Bitcoin mining isn't profitable!"
What you are doing is nothing original or revolutionary.  We get these kind of trolls every day.  
I would suggest you start your own Bitcoin mining business, one in which you sell the hash power for less than you purchased it for.  We would all sign up.    "Godlike Mining" has a very nice ring to it.  

Surely I'm not the first, but I'm here with good arguments I think.
Math is a good proof.

You are asking us to sell our hash power for less than what we purchased it for.  How is that reasonable?  

OK. I'll prove your maths wrong.
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/d3e47a28c5

Done. Happy? Now stfu and gtfo.

Difficulty increase per month... 16%          
Let's stay real: 18% each 12 days = more or less 35% each month.
Link ->You won't ever get your money back.

Now, STFU and GTFO, mom's kiddy, and don't even answer, putting you useless **** in ignore