[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[LiskKing]

Is make for DASH COIN ANON? ...Here in this POST Roger Ver is say for XMR is more ANON that DASH? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.20

is this Roger VER account ? - or fake account?

I am doing for selling my LISK to buy a ANON coin...trying to decide make for help?

[qwizzie]

Is make for DASH COIN ANON? ...Here in this POST Roger Ver is say for XMR is more ANON that DASH? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.20

is this Roger VER account ? - or fake account?

I am doing for selling my LISK to buy a ANON coin...trying to decide make for help?

Dash has full anonymity (optional for users) + instant transactions + rewards for running full nodes (masternodes) + decentralized budget and governance system + integration into a lot of other wallets
(Bitwala, Coinapult, Mycelium, Spectrocoin) + blockchain is still very small  (under 2 GB)

That is Dash strength, it has grown so much beyond just having anonymity....
 

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

Is make for DASH COIN ANON? ...Here in this POST Roger Ver is say for XMR is more ANON that DASH? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.20

is this Roger VER account ? - or fake account?

I am doing for selling my LISK to buy a ANON coin...trying to decide make for help?

Why dont you just try and decide if you like it or not.  Try annon option, try instant send, etc. and see for yourself.

[qwizzie]

Some interesting volume on YoBit lately

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/#markets

[qwizzie]

How a Cryptographer Named After Harry Potter's Archenemy is Helping Solve Bitcoin's Biggest Problems
http://www.coindesk.com/cryptographer-voldemort-bitcoin-scaling/

Mimblewimble : An alternative to the Lightning Network with a solution to both scalability and privacy ?  

Scalability potential

Today, scalability is seen as an area where bitcoin, and all blockchains, need improvement.

Bitcoin developers have thus far rallied around the Lightning Network, an off-chain payments channel, as a way to “scale” the platform from roughly 7-transactions per second to Visa-level payments.
But Mimblewimble could offer an alternative way to slim down the blockchain.

With most privacy methods proposed so far for bitcoin, there’s a tradeoff between scalability and privacy. One of the downsides of Confidential Transactions, a technique that developers are currently experimenting with on a sidechain, is that it requires larger transaction sizes.

“These solutions are very good and would make bitcoin very safe to use. But the problem of too much data is made even worse. Confidential Transactions require multi-kilobyte proofs on every output, and van Saberhagen signatures require every output to be stored forever, since it is not possible to tell when they are truly spent,” the proposal explains.

Mimblewimble offers a way around this by combining a couple of older cryptographic techniques suggested for bitcoin: signature aggregation and Confidential Transactions.

oh oh :

planned upgrades like smart contracts and micropayments channels are incompatible with Mimblewimble, at least as it is currently described.

[alex-ru]

just for fun:

[iCEBREAKER]

Is make for DASH COIN ANON? ...Here in this POST Roger Ver is say for XMR is more ANON that DASH? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.20

is this Roger VER account ? - or fake account?

I am doing for selling my LISK to buy a ANON coin...trying to decide make for help?

[but but muh Dash hype happy talk]
 

We've heard all that hype and happy talk before.  It's just the noise the losing team's cheerleaders make, with no effect on the scoreboard.

The DNM operators have decided Monero is the future of ANON, and Dash is just worthless dog shit.


Citation 1: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay

Dash, a cryptocurrency that formerly went by the name Darkcoin, received substantial media attention when a few mid-sized markets implemented it in 2014. Two years later, Dash hasn’t been implemented on any online dark net markets worth noting.

If Monero takes off, it just might be the super-anonymous currency that the web’s secretive drug economy has been waiting for.

Citation 2: http://monero7tukbkxn57.onion/

What about cryptocurrency X/Y/Z? I heard they can mix/join/ninja vanish.

Bitcoin mixers (even coinjoin) are not enough to maintain transaction unlinkability. Not to mention the Bitcoin blockchain data is currently being mined and sold to law enforcement.

Dash's supernodes could collude to reveal who you are.

[btc_zero_sum]

Im currently in Amsterdam... A supposed bitcoin friendly place... And guess what... It's not!  

amsterdam is a delusion if you wish to spend bitcoins, you should check arnhem (~1 hour from amsterdam) for more bitcoin friendly shops

[toknormal]

The DNM operators have decided Monero is the future of (Darknet) ANON

Indeed.

As I've been pointing out for many years, Monero is not money, it is a conduit for money and Darkmarkets only need to hide it, not define it.

That's why their currency of choice has always been the $USD, and why Darkcoin left you those markets so it could persue public blockchain mainstream ANON, otherwise known as 'cash'.

So you found your market for cryptographic safes.

Enjoy !

[toknormal]

******  In Other News ******

Scotcoin is accepted in the Arlington Bar.

A pub that I walked past for several decades and never went into cos it had too many dogs and cracked gloss paint has started serving beer for crypto

The words book and colour spring to mind. Expect the revolution to come from where the action isn't !  

I'd better upgrade my phone now  

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[iCEBREAKER]

This crypto ecosystem has some serious work to do!!! Im currently in Amsterdam... A supposed bitcoin friendly place... And guess what... It's not!  Every place I went to spend bitcoin that said they took bitcoin.. .. Couldn't or Didn't.

Which reminds me how much clowns like aerialbit, icebreaker... Smooth.. And all the other clowns in this invested ecosystem are selfish,  self serving a-holes!   Instead if reaching out to each other and finding ways to work together and promote the use of bitcoin and alt coins we're slinging shit around like a bunch of 2 years old children.

I'm soooo disappointed... In almost every one involved in this...

What the hell are we doing here... All if us???  Shame on us for not getting this in front if the world with a unified message. Of freedom and hope... Instead of bickering among ourselves.  /rant over

Hey bro,

I'm all in favor of promoting usage of crypto wherever and whenever possible.

EG, I think it's great that DNM are moving away from transparent/traceable/dangerous BTC and towards opaque/anon/safe XMR.

OTOH, we see people like toknormal and basilpop doing the sour grapes thing, pretending that Dash is too pure and noble to sully itself with System D adoption.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/4l6umn/dash_and_darknet/

Darknet prefers the well established (yet centralized and trusted) Bitcoin mixing services, thus acceptance is miniscule. Dash was never actively promoted towards the Darknet

LMFAO.  So many lies in such a small quote.

Darknet prefers to avoid Blockchain analysis, that's why SIGAINT/OASIS/ALPHABAY are moving away from tumbling/mixing/tangling BTC.

And when Nucleus started accepting Dash, there was no end of breathless "ZOMG MOON" hype.

Bitfury just published a groundbreaking paper on unraveling Coinjoin, and is about to begin offering such analysis as a professional service.

The tools Bitfury is making to unravel Bitcoin will be even more effective on Dash, because Dash has much lower volume than Bitcoin.

Read it and weep.

https://www.scribd.com/document/322004737/Bitfury-Shared-Send-Untangling-in-Bitcoin-20160821

Together with other data mining tools, analysis of shared send transactions forms the analytical backend for Bitfury’s Crystal Blockchain – a web service for blockchain investigations and analysis.

The first public release of the service is scheduled soon after the publication of the present paper.

Crystal Blockchain is going to destroy Dash's fake Privacy Theater.  Sorry for your loss.   

[nzminer]

Whats up with all these rumors going round that alot of darknet markets will be switching to monero?

I believe some are already using DASH...

[toknormal]

Crystal Blockchain is going to destroy Dash's fake Privacy Theater.  Sorry for your loss.  

I think Dash was already guaranteed to be destroyed a few times over the last few years. So is this really it then ? Can I go and get my free beer now ?

[iCEBREAKER]

Whats up with all these rumors going round that alot of darknet markets will be switching to monero?

I believe some are already using DASH...

Those "rumors" have been confirmed for days; XMR is live on SIGAINT, Oasis, and Alphabay (the largest DNM).

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay
http://themerkle.com/monero-xmr-on-the-rise-following-its-inclusion-in-the-darknet-market-alphabay/
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160824/1044590564/bitcoin-dark-web-monero.html
http://www.vocativ.com/353221/darknet-markets-finally-embracing-a-bitcoin-alternative/

Dash was only briefly used on Nucleus (which was, like Dash, a scam).

Now we keep hearing unsubstantiated rumors that other DNMs are using Dash, but we don't see any verifiable information and Team Dash's Official Position is that they rebranded from Darkcoin to avoid the association with Dark stuff.

However, the only DNM besides Nucleus using Dash that's been reported by the media is a nasty child abuse ring.

Citation: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/07/16/pedophiles-launch-dash-darkcoin-mining-crowdfunding-platform/

Wtf: Pedophiles Launch Dash (“Darkcoin”) Mining Crowdfunding Platform

[gusterdd]

Whats up with all these rumors going round that alot of darknet markets will be switching to monero?

I believe some are already using DASH...

Those "rumors" have been confirmed for days; XMR is live on SIGAINT, Oasis, and Alphabay (the largest DNM).

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay
http://themerkle.com/monero-xmr-on-the-rise-following-its-inclusion-in-the-darknet-market-alphabay/
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160824/1044590564/bitcoin-dark-web-monero.html
http://www.vocativ.com/353221/darknet-markets-finally-embracing-a-bitcoin-alternative/

Dash was only briefly used on Nucleus (which was, like Dash, a scam).

Now we keep hearing unsubstantiated rumors that other DNMs are using Dash, but we don't see any verifiable information and Team Dash's Official Position is that they rebranded from Darkcoin to avoid the association with Dark stuff.

However, the only DNM besides Nucleus using Dash that's been reported by the media is a nasty child abuse ring.

Citation: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/07/16/pedophiles-launch-dash-darkcoin-mining-crowdfunding-platform/

Wtf: Pedophiles Launch Dash (“Darkcoin”) Mining Crowdfunding Platform

Dash developement isn't for darknet.
You should use Monero in the darkside.
Privatesend target is not darkside transation like Monero.

[iCEBREAKER]

Whats up with all these rumors going round that alot of darknet markets will be switching to monero?

I believe some are already using DASH...

Those "rumors" have been confirmed for days; XMR is live on SIGAINT, Oasis, and Alphabay (the largest DNM).

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay
http://themerkle.com/monero-xmr-on-the-rise-following-its-inclusion-in-the-darknet-market-alphabay/
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160824/1044590564/bitcoin-dark-web-monero.html
http://www.vocativ.com/353221/darknet-markets-finally-embracing-a-bitcoin-alternative/

Dash was only briefly used on Nucleus (which was, like Dash, a scam).

Now we keep hearing unsubstantiated rumors that other DNMs are using Dash, but we don't see any verifiable information and Team Dash's Official Position is that they rebranded from Darkcoin to avoid the association with Dark stuff.

However, the only DNM besides Nucleus using Dash that's been reported by the media is a nasty child abuse ring.

Citation: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/07/16/pedophiles-launch-dash-darkcoin-mining-crowdfunding-platform/

Wtf: Pedophiles Launch Dash (“Darkcoin”) Mining Crowdfunding Platform

Dash developement isn't for darknet.
You should use Monero in the darkside.
Privatesend target is not darkside transation like Monero.

Privatesend used to be called Darksend.  There's no difference except in the branding; both names refer to the exact same broken Coinjoin implementation that was denounced by the inventor of the protocol Greg Maxwell.

When we apply your logic combined with Justus Ranvier's, the conclusion that Dash is useless ensues.

IE:

Only the Black Market Matters By Justus Ranvier
https://bitcoinism.liberty.me/only-the-black-market-matters/

This can not be emphasized strongly enough: the underground economy employed half the world’s workers as of 2009, and is growing rapidly.

Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: “Does this new thing improve the black market?”

If the answer to this question is “no”, then the thing is useless.

So bring on the money laundering, tax evasion, drug marketplace, and unregulated taxi service software. Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time.

Dash isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy.

Therefore, Dash is useless and Dash devs/cheerleaders are wasting their time.

Q. E. D.

[raphma]

Whats up with all these rumors going round that alot of darknet markets will be switching to monero?

I believe some are already using DASH...

Those "rumors" have been confirmed for days; XMR is live on SIGAINT, Oasis, and Alphabay (the largest DNM).

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay
http://themerkle.com/monero-xmr-on-the-rise-following-its-inclusion-in-the-darknet-market-alphabay/
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160824/1044590564/bitcoin-dark-web-monero.html
http://www.vocativ.com/353221/darknet-markets-finally-embracing-a-bitcoin-alternative/

Dash was only briefly used on Nucleus (which was, like Dash, a scam).

Now we keep hearing unsubstantiated rumors that other DNMs are using Dash, but we don't see any verifiable information and Team Dash's Official Position is that they rebranded from Darkcoin to avoid the association with Dark stuff.

However, the only DNM besides Nucleus using Dash that's been reported by the media is a nasty child abuse ring.

Citation: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/07/16/pedophiles-launch-dash-darkcoin-mining-crowdfunding-platform/

Wtf: Pedophiles Launch Dash (“Darkcoin”) Mining Crowdfunding Platform

Dash developement isn't for darknet.
You should use Monero in the darkside.
Privatesend target is not darkside transation like Monero.

lol
tell more about the difference in dash anonymity and monero anonymity....

ps: not the tech behind each, but how would dash anonymity be a good think and monero anonymity a "darkside" thing.

[Solarminer]

Only 3 weeks from the start of the budget and we have grown over 100 members and really made some progress.  Vote yes again and we will continue to make things happen.
Dashcentral: https://www.dashcentral.org/p/slack-tipbot-com-eng

Slack Project Update - Month One:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/slack-tipbot-and-community-engagement.9966/#post-102397

Tipbot
@dashbot is getting a quiz feature added. Testing is in progress.
25 Dash were sent to @naruby for his work on the dashbot.

Community Engagement
15 Dash were sent to 10 mods for the work they do here. Creating conversation, tipping new people, welcoming new members, public promotions of Dash and this place, helping new users with questions and answers, providing resources for veterans and new users, among many other things. The moderators were given the choice to do whatever they want with the 15 Dash. @TroyDASH (gave 15 away) @alexander @splawik21 @buster (gave 15 away) @Solarminer @InTheWoods @dash_advocate (gave 10 away) @Dashmasternode (gave 10 away) @elishagh1 @Macrochip (gave 7.5 away)

Out of the 150 Dash given to moderators here, 57.5 were given away to fund the Redo of Dash Video Series by @amanda_b_johnson.
You can read about it here, http://www.dashnation.com/initiatives/dash-video-series-community-bounty-funded-2-hours/

Bounty for App Store Wallet
We had donations pledged from several users to encourage getting an iphone wallet on the App Store. Jaxx was the first one to meet the requirements and received 200 Dash compliments of @Dashmasternode, there are still bounties for 50 Dash (@pi) to get an App on the China App Store and another 50 Dash (@solarminer,@troydash,@dashadvocate) to add InstantSend. There are now 3 different developers attempting to get a wallet in app store with InstantSend. We believe this was fantastic success.

Dash Details
15 Dash are held by @Solarminer to send funds at various times over the month to @dashsun
5 Dash were refunded to @Solarminer from month one for the 5 dash proposal fee.
17 Dash are allocated for three contests currently running, an Image contest, a Slogan contest, and Bumper Sticker Contest to further promote this slack, and in turn Dash. To learn more the contests go to http://dashchat.co/contests.html
5 Dash are going to create a new reddit intro post which @Poltergeist has kindly taken upon himself to complete. He has already provided a rough draft and we plan on having something done by early or mid September.
8 Dash are tentatively planned to order 1000 Bumper stickers with the design from contests above that can be handed out at shows or sold for Dash.

Buster created a website for the slack to make it easier for new users to find the slack. You can use this link to join or learn more, http://dashchat.co

[dafdaf]

the exact same broken Coinjoin implementation

Prove it, clown.

[darkota]

why does this currency still exist...just die already dash