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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722518 times)
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October 12, 2016, 07:31:52 AM


Looks like a nice payment service, and I would like to see it come to the EU soon. In the meantime I suppose the debit card would be usable (visa) if one wanted to use Dash for purchasing rather than local fiat.
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October 12, 2016, 01:07:51 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



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http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards
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October 12, 2016, 01:16:25 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



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http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

That's some badass card mate, will check it soon
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October 12, 2016, 01:22:07 PM


Correct me if I'm wrong here. Doesn't the recent compliance integration disqualify Dash as an anonymous crypto?

More like it helps propel "anonymous crypto" into markets where people might actually use it en masse. (Check out 3 posts above  Wink )


Crypto doesn't need to be propelled into anything.. Slow and steady wins the race. Every day more and more people are being introduced to cryptocurrency. Bank card integration is a step backwards because it deals with clearing houses and third parties when the principal is peer-to-peer. If you think that debit cards are a step forward then you are sadly mistaken. One cannot be anonymous and still comply with AML/KYC. It's an oxymoron. "KYC" is Know your Customer.. That is the completely contradictory to being anonymous. It's like walking into a store to buy something with cash and the clerk asks for ID. Therefore this cannot be digital cash more like KYC coin.

The direction Dash is a far cry from its initial design. Keep going down the road of compliance and risk disqualify it as a peer-to-peer currency, let alone an anonymous one.

who REQUIRE compliance to implement a new cryptocurrency (like DASH) from having to do it themselves.

Name one major vendor that requires compliance by a government to integrate a cryptocurrency.

Basicly it opens the door for more mainstream business customers while still providing privacy services to those customers that need it. The reason Dash can make this work is because Dash privacy elements that are integrated at core protocol are of optional nature. Users choose to have privacy with Dash or not.    

Opens the door for what mainstream businesses? Microsoft and countless other mainstream businesses accept bitcoin and do not have to comply with anything other than tax reporting for their profits and losses.

What this does "open the door" to is unnecessary regulation of cryptocurrencies. Not mandated by any government to date. It's a slippery slope Dash is traveling and one that investors should think twice before supporting. But I digress, I leave you to complying with vapor compliance.

It's really not that complicated. Use PrivateSend and no amount of blockchain analysis is going to deanonymize you. Coinfirm can analyze the blockchain of any currency they'd like, with or without that currency project's permission.

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https://www.dash.org/
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October 12, 2016, 01:23:41 PM

So whats up with the new censorship crap going on in dashtalk?

Shall i just make a new forum

Go for it!

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https://www.dash.org/
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October 12, 2016, 01:24:44 PM

What exchanges do accept DSH/EUR?

I do not know about DSH. Its some other coin. This is DASH.


On BTC-e, we are DSH.

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https://www.dash.org/
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October 12, 2016, 02:10:46 PM

Any comments about DASH price?
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October 12, 2016, 02:11:04 PM

Ready to Shakepay ?  Wink

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."

https://i.imgur.com/QpI89oI.png

Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

I'd just like to say i've been using Shake for around 2 months now and it is a great way to spend Dash anywhere that accepts Visa without having to go through Bitcoin or your bank.

You can top up your card on the Shake site with Instant Send and the funds clear immediately and I have successfully done a Dash -> Visa remittance with a merchant within around 20 seconds end to end.  One caveat to this is last week they had some delays on the fiat processing side which they are working on as it is a beta service.

We've also built up a close relationship with Jean from Shake and his team and are working together to position Shake as a flagship merchant on Evolution when it is launched and building in some of the recommendations Jean has advised from a merchant perspective as we are also doing with ProtonMail.

Obviously Shake is a centralized service and requires trust for the amounts you deposit but this is a given whenever you need to go via a facility like Visa.  

But if you have small amounts you wish to spend directly via Visa, I would highly recommend Shake for Dash users, and ultimately we would like lots of services like Shake plugged into Evolution that are in competition to provide a reliable service and you can access / top up direct from your wallet.

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October 12, 2016, 03:00:52 PM

China has also been concerned about the news, it will be a big positive!

http://btc12.com/thread-214.htm

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October 12, 2016, 03:01:48 PM

Everything You Want to Know About Coinfirm's Dash Integration for AML/KYC Compliance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJOhIkeK3Ho

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October 12, 2016, 03:23:10 PM

Any comments about DASH price?

Pretty stable USD-wise, if you ask me.

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October 12, 2016, 03:24:20 PM

Everything You Want to Know About Coinfirm's Dash Integration for AML/KYC Compliance

https://youtu.be/KJOhIkeK3Ho

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Ready to Shakepay ?  Wink

https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

Great, a cool card endorsed by the team ...and with a lovely logo!
Do you guys know the exgange rate for crypto, how much fiat I get loading 1 dash or 1btc?
I was looking up and down his web but I wasn't able to figure it out.
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October 12, 2016, 04:42:28 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

Great, a cool card endorsed by the team ...and with a lovely logo!
Do you guys know the exgange rate for crypto, how much fiat I get loading 1 dash or 1btc?
I was looking up and down his web but I wasn't able to figure it out.
Yes, can anybody give any numbers? Rates and fees wise? And is there countries list?
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October 12, 2016, 05:02:27 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

Great, a cool card endorsed by the team ...and with a lovely logo!
Do you guys know the exgange rate for crypto, how much fiat I get loading 1 dash or 1btc?
I was looking up and down his web but I wasn't able to figure it out.
Yes, can anybody give any numbers? Rates and fees wise? And is there countries list?

Here for the countries list
https://shakepay.co/#/faq

and here some more detailed fees but not exchange rate
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October 12, 2016, 05:59:21 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."

https://i.imgur.com/QpI89oI.png

Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

Great, a cool card endorsed by the team ...and with a lovely logo!
Do you guys know the exgange rate for crypto, how much fiat I get loading 1 dash or 1btc?
I was looking up and down his web but I wasn't able to figure it out.
Yes, can anybody give any numbers? Rates and fees wise? And is there countries list?

depositing 20 EUR just now...

https://i.imgur.com/MrH4rhD.png

cost in Dash = 1.99248763

https://i.imgur.com/Kf3FZXG.png

Based on the current Dash price on Coinmarketcap @ EUR10.48, total markup after conversion and fees was ~4.2%
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October 12, 2016, 06:26:44 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

Great, a cool card endorsed by the team ...and with a lovely logo!
Do you guys know the exgange rate for crypto, how much fiat I get loading 1 dash or 1btc?
I was looking up and down his web but I wasn't able to figure it out.
Yes, can anybody give any numbers? Rates and fees wise? And is there countries list?

depositing 20 EUR just now...



cost in Dash = 1.99248763



Based on the current Dash price on Coinmarketcap @ EUR10.48, total markup after conversion and fees was ~4.2%

That's info! Lol, I love you  Kiss
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October 12, 2016, 06:28:10 PM

It's a frustrating sign of our time that while they list their headquarters as:

© SHAKE LABS INC.
Montreal, Canada 🍁
San Francisco, California 🚋

yet they cannot deal in Canadian currency (CAD) without charging a premium and, as they put it "We know there is a huge demand from our friends in the US -- we're working hard on getting Shake to you."

Growing pains, I hope. It looks very promising  and I wish them well.

 
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October 12, 2016, 10:17:24 PM


The announcement from Jaxx regarding the required removal of Dash from their iOS wallet is a perfect example of the uphill battle anonymous currencies are facing.


"Perfect example?"  Nope.  WRONG. Try again.

Dash's anonymity isn't the reason it was removed from iOS.

Sorry, but that was always a crappy excuse given that Bitcoin tumbling (with its much higher volume and lower mixing times) is far superior to Dash's DarkSend.

Now we have confirmation Apple is just fine with anon coins, so long as they aren't actually Howey-test-failing unlicensed security fraud and instamined to boot.

https://twitter.com/diiorioanthony/status/785821335125528576
https://twitter.com/jaxx_io/status/785833459772162048

Remember when I told you so?

[Apple] looked into dashcoin and decided to press eject on the instascamcoin. They have high standards and morals.

That is the simplest and thus [most] plausible explanation.


The conspiracy theories to the contrary are amusing.

Only a Kool Aid swilling cargo cultist would actually think Apple is afraid of Dash, or someone would pay Jaxx to lie about its reason for removing it.

Call to all Masternode owners hosting at Amazon AWS, please check your firewall rules as your ports are closed !!

The ports are closed for a security reason. Looks like Amazon is blocking DASH too.

Amazon does not want the liability of hosting money-laundering HYIP Masternodes.

Apple has the best lawyers money can buy.  They know the SEC and FBI will be coming after Dash, and now Amazon is also reacting to that reality.


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October 12, 2016, 10:50:39 PM

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https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Debit+Cards

"Dash and BTC holders can now topup virtual or physical Shake Debit Cards and make purchases at any merchant accepting EUR and USD through the popular payments network. Once topped up, the Shake Debit Card lets users spend their Dash while paying merchants in their preferred currency."



Press:
http://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-debit-card-shake-dash/
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/66541/digital-currency-dash-comes-to-shake-debit-cards

Great, a cool card endorsed by the team ...and with a lovely logo!
Do you guys know the exgange rate for crypto, how much fiat I get loading 1 dash or 1btc?
I was looking up and down his web but I wasn't able to figure it out.
Yes, can anybody give any numbers? Rates and fees wise? And is there countries list?

depositing 20 EUR just now...



cost in Dash = 1.99248763



Based on the current Dash price on Coinmarketcap @ EUR10.48, total markup after conversion and fees was ~4.2%

That's info! Lol, I love you  Kiss

    Yes, Very "real world" info.  Thanks 

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