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[salmion]

+1 Minotaur.

I believe Piyany is a concern troll

[Toninho]

I am saying again and again. The whole bad behaviour (P&P, Scam and FUD) of crypto cummunities hurts
this markets a lot. There is no fresh money comming into these markets.
At least only money is shifting around into the declining market day by day and everybody that was been scammed
by pump and dups will not give any new Dollar to these markets.

Crypto destroys itself. My investment of around 5000€ i made 10 months ago would be completly lost
if i wouldn´t be very early in DRK. I hold my single masternode, more i do´t have over.
I know some people that lost around 5K € completly over the last months.
They will never come back to crypto markets.

Cloak is the best example of bad behaviour of crypto markets ( assholes like bobsurplus destroy all crypto markets )

I am pretty sure DRK is the last coin that has serious buyers, otherwise also DRK would have been done now.
Even if it has great things to offer, it doesn´t matter.
I expect hashrate will get higher and higher because there are a lot of very cheap powercost miners ( or power thieves )
that dump any coin they mine if there is a buyer.
Show me one coin that is still worth to mine than DRK - no one is over !!!


just my 2 duff
 

Drk has no more serious investors buying, only traders like me and that dude that dumped 3k with no regret. And someone has to pay the bills for miners, give profits to the whales that pumped the price above any moon that was expected. Shit, this coin was expensive even before the pump!!

And yes, you are right about the altcoin scene. But drk is no different, the whales that own this coin and get profits from market are not different that all the other. It's all about profits and profits come from dumping.

Some people will always cheer for drk becuase they got in before the big pump and they don't care- they hodl. But all new investors and traders should take into account that buying in a long downtrend to go is stupid and deserves to lose money.t

So what your suggestion into crypto market. Wait until the next coin pump and jump it instead of hold coins of good projects.
If your answer is yes, then you will also end up with nothing because at one point of time also P&D game is over because money has all gone !!!

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

@piyany I am honestly tired of your condescending bullshit, stop trying to act like you know better than everybody else "there are no more serious investors only traders like me" , etc.  Darkcoin is doing well compared to the rest of the market, the way I see it there are two possibilities either all cryptos dissapear in which case  we are all fucked anyway or the market purges the weak projects and some coins survived. I dont think the whole crypto scene will disappear and I truly believe Darkcoin has the greatest chance of survival of all alts. So please stop giving advice you made your point clear and stop trying to create a negative vibe for everybody else.

[KryptoFoo]

I think there is much to be said about yhe fact that "only my DRK didn't burn me." If people fold on it only to see later it was the only bad fold...

Fucktards who sodl when should hodl have only themselves to blame. Regulated investments are no place for the stupid and undisciplined. Unregulated investments, even moreso...

I believe DRK will soon benefit from a flight to quality as people move out of more risky anon coins whose developers are unknown and product relatively untested. Meanwhile DRK has a public development team, a big community, large market cap, solid product, etc etc.

[slapper]

+1 Minotaur.

I believe Piyany is a concern troll

No, they belong to the group that should be called Trader Troll.

"I am in it for the money. I am going to sell @ blah blah price , @ blah blah news event. Here is my strategy for all see, I hope everyone does the same". After all they only wish your success and working to make your life filled with happiness, for your good.

Concern Troll
Negative Nancy Troll
Self Pity Troll
Trader Troll

More to come .....

[KryptoFoo]

Ouch.

My CLOAK hedge has shrivelled up into an amorphous carcas of what it once was.

The term "dumped" doesn´t quite do justice to it. Bitcoin´s current decline is rapidly de-capitalising the entire alts market. DRK´s doing not bad in the face of this firestorm I´d say.

Look at NXT. It´s at 30% of it´s last all time high.

The only thing thats going to really light a fire under cryptocurrencies is if Fiat is actually CHASED into this sector. That will be if the long touted dollar collapse occurs. (On the other hand, the money may just run into the new BRICS gold backed currencies in stead).

DRK has been showing good relative strength of late. This is promising. Hopefully the destruction of litecoin will ease up a bit before folks lose faith in the altcoin market completely. I for one do not think this is the end of days for alts. Maybe just a good cleaning of house, which is badly needed actually.

[Toninho]

Ouch.

My CLOAK hedge has shrivelled up into an amorphous carcas of what it once was.

The term "dumped" doesn´t quite do justice to it. Bitcoin´s current decline is rapidly de-capitalising the entire alts market. DRK´s doing not bad in the face of this firestorm I´d say.

Look at NXT. It´s at 30% of it´s last all time high.

The only thing thats going to really light a fire under cryptocurrencies is if Fiat is actually CHASED into this sector. That will be if the long touted dollar collapse occurs. (On the other hand, the money may just run into the new BRICS gold backed currencies in stead).

DRK has been showing good relative strength of late. This is promising. Hopefully the destruction of litecoin will ease up a bit before folsk lose faith in the altcoin market completely. I for one do not think this is the end of days for alts. Maybe just a good cleaning of house, which is badly needed actually.

and DRK ----»

[thelonecrouton]

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

'investment investment investment investment....' - that's you're problem right there, and it's not one I share.

DRK has value to me because it means I can keep my finances, my spending etc. completely private. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this viewpoint.

[bitcoinsid]

Ouch.

My CLOAK hedge has shrivelled up into an amorphous carcas of what it once was.

The term "dumped" doesn´t quite do justice to it. Bitcoin´s current decline is rapidly de-capitalising the entire alts market. DRK´s doing not bad in the face of this firestorm I´d say.

Look at NXT. It´s at 30% of it´s last all time high.

The only thing thats going to really light a fire under cryptocurrencies is if Fiat is actually CHASED into this sector. That will be if the long touted dollar collapse occurs. (On the other hand, the money may just run into the new BRICS gold backed currencies in stead).

DRK has been showing good relative strength of late. This is promising. Hopefully the destruction of litecoin will ease up a bit before folsk lose faith in the altcoin market completely. I for one do not think this is the end of days for alts. Maybe just a good cleaning of house, which is badly needed actually.

i think alot of people have seen/waiting for this day. Most alts will die and it was expected to be around this time when drk is reviewed.

[Ignition75]

Maybe just a good cleaning of house, which is badly needed actually.

Yep for whatever reason it's happening, this consolidation could be a good mop up exercise for all the shit that's floating around the scene...

Just tonight, I've been on IRC speaking with colleagues about another coin I wont mention just yet.  It was sold as an innovation, had honest devs working hard, a really nice bunch of people in the community, only to find out, after more experienced eyes analysed the code, hidden this, hidden that, secret addresses, code made over complicated to  hide all sorts of Shenanigans.  Lead Dev has been a shady fuck from the start.

Bleed them all dry, only the strong shall survive, do a bit of a reset on the entire scene.

[piyany]

I am saying again and again. The whole bad behaviour (P&P, Scam and FUD) of crypto cummunities hurts
this markets a lot. There is no fresh money comming into these markets.
At least only money is shifting around into the declining market day by day and everybody that was been scammed
by pump and dups will not give any new Dollar to these markets.

Crypto destroys itself. My investment of around 5000€ i made 10 months ago would be completly lost
if i wouldn´t be very early in DRK. I hold my single masternode, more i do´t have over.
I know some people that lost around 5K € completly over the last months.
They will never come back to crypto markets.

Cloak is the best example of bad behaviour of crypto markets ( assholes like bobsurplus destroy all crypto markets )

I am pretty sure DRK is the last coin that has serious buyers, otherwise also DRK would have been done now.
Even if it has great things to offer, it doesn´t matter.
I expect hashrate will get higher and higher because there are a lot of very cheap powercost miners ( or power thieves )
that dump any coin they mine if there is a buyer.
Show me one coin that is still worth to mine than DRK - no one is over !!!


just my 2 duff
 

Drk has no more serious investors buying, only traders like me and that dude that dumped 3k with no regret. And someone has to pay the bills for miners, give profits to the whales that pumped the price above any moon that was expected. Shit, this coin was expensive even before the pump!!

And yes, you are right about the altcoin scene. But drk is no different, the whales that own this coin and get profits from market are not different that all the other. It's all about profits and profits come from dumping.

Some people will always cheer for drk becuase they got in before the big pump and they don't care- they hodl. But all new investors and traders should take into account that buying in a long downtrend to go is stupid and deserves to lose money.t

So what your suggestion into crypto market. Wait until the next coin pump and jump it instead of hold coins of good projects.
If your answer is yes, then you will also end up with nothing because at one point of time also P&D game is over because money has all gone !!!

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

@piyany I am honestly tired of your condescending bullshit, stop trying to act like you know better than everybody else "there are no more serious investors only traders like me" , etc.  Darkcoin is doing well compared to the rest of the market, the way I see it there are two possibilities either all cryptos dissapear in which case  we are all fucked anyway or the market purges the weak projects and some coins survived. I dont think the whole crypto scene will disappear and I truly believe Darkcoin has the greatest chance of survival of all alts. So please stop giving advice you made your point clear and stop trying to create a negative vibe for everybody else.

About serious investors... this is from my observations of the market. It's doing very well, much better than anyone expected.

Negative vibe? If I save some people lots of money that's a good deed. You must understand that the market does not care if you buy now or not, you cannot change the trend.

I actually wanna see a pump in price, makes things more interesting and will bring some volume No more advices from me

[patrolman]

I am saying again and again. The whole bad behaviour (P&P, Scam and FUD) of crypto cummunities hurts
this markets a lot. There is no fresh money comming into these markets.
At least only money is shifting around into the declining market day by day and everybody that was been scammed
by pump and dups will not give any new Dollar to these markets.

Crypto destroys itself. My investment of around 5000€ i made 10 months ago would be completly lost
if i wouldn´t be very early in DRK. I hold my single masternode, more i do´t have over.
I know some people that lost around 5K € completly over the last months.
They will never come back to crypto markets.

Cloak is the best example of bad behaviour of crypto markets ( assholes like bobsurplus destroy all crypto markets )

I am pretty sure DRK is the last coin that has serious buyers, otherwise also DRK would have been done now.
Even if it has great things to offer, it doesn´t matter.
I expect hashrate will get higher and higher because there are a lot of very cheap powercost miners ( or power thieves )
that dump any coin they mine if there is a buyer.
Show me one coin that is still worth to mine than DRK - no one is over !!!


just my 2 duff
 

Drk has no more serious investors buying, only traders like me and that dude that dumped 3k with no regret. And someone has to pay the bills for miners, give profits to the whales that pumped the price above any moon that was expected. Shit, this coin was expensive even before the pump!!

And yes, you are right about the altcoin scene. But drk is no different, the whales that own this coin and get profits from market are not different that all the other. It's all about profits and profits come from dumping.

Some people will always cheer for drk becuase they got in before the big pump and they don't care- they hodl. But all new investors and traders should take into account that buying in a long downtrend to go is stupid and deserves to lose money.

So what your suggestion into crypto market. Wait until the next coin pump and jump it instead of hold coins of good projects.
If your answer is yes, then you will also end up with nothing because at one point of time also P&D game is over because money has all gone !!!

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment
Buying 'the next big thing' can get you burned

Don't forget thought, even though your primary interest is to make a profit at all costs, some of us cling to the quaint notion that we can make a change in the world. It is probably the main reason I initially took the plunge to invest in Bitcoin and the same reason I was convinced when I looked into Darkcoin.

One of the biggest obstacles to higher adoption levels of cryptocurrencies is that the general public don't even know they're being fleeced by the central banks and their associated governments around the world today, or they suspect it but they don't know how. Others say things like "Economics is not my thing" or think there is nothing that can be done so why go against the flow. Economic illiteracy is rife but willingness to blindly comply within a corrupt system is an even bigger problem.

The cryptocurrency scene is a reflection of the casino-like stock markets around the world today. Too many are in it just for the "money". HFT, for example, is a comlplete aberration of the antiquated notion of providing capital for promising projects by purchasing shares in a company. All the same, there are still people willing to provide capital to projects they believe in, and in some cases even if there may be more profitable ventures available. Of course, buying crypto coins is not exactly the same as buying shares. but there are similarities.

[Kai Proctor]

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

'investment investment investment investment....' - that's you're problem right there, and it's not one I share.

DRK has value to me because it means I can keep my finances, my spending etc. completely private. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this viewpoint.

[Toninho]

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

'investment investment investment investment....' - that's you're problem right there, and it's not one I share.

DRK has value to me because it means I can keep my finances, my spending etc. completely private. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this viewpoint.

[vipgelsi]

Ouch.

My CLOAK hedge has shrivelled up into an amorphous carcas of what it once was.

The term "dumped" doesn´t quite do justice to it. Bitcoin´s current decline is rapidly de-capitalising the entire alts market. DRK´s doing not bad in the face of this firestorm I´d say.

Look at NXT. It´s at 30% of it´s last all time high.

The only thing thats going to really light a fire under cryptocurrencies is if Fiat is actually CHASED into this sector. That will be if the long touted dollar collapse occurs. (On the other hand, the money may just run into the new BRICS gold backed currencies in stead).

DRK has been showing good relative strength of late. This is promising. Hopefully the destruction of litecoin will ease up a bit before folsk lose faith in the altcoin market completely. I for one do not think this is the end of days for alts. Maybe just a good cleaning of house, which is badly needed actually.

i think alot of people have seen/waiting for this day. Most alts will die and it was expected to be around this time when drk is reviewed.

What makes you think dark will be saved?

[Ignition75]

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

'investment investment investment investment....' - that's you're problem right there, and it's not one I share.

DRK has value to me because it means I can keep my finances, my spending etc. completely private. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this viewpoint.

Stand back and give the brother some room...

 

[piyany]

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

'investment investment investment investment....' - that's you're problem right there, and it's not one I share.

DRK has value to me because it means I can keep my finances, my spending etc. completely private. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this viewpoint.

Good but that sounds like a happy customer attitude. Investor wants returns from what he invested. A product can be great and whatnot. But when you anticipate that the price is going down you could short it and have more in the future. 2 masternodes better than 1?  

[salmion]

2 masternodes better than 1?  

But then your profits from the masternodes are worth half so the outcome is the same?

That's called dicking yourself.

*edit your are now a confirmed trader troll.

[toknormal]

What makes you think dark will be saved?

1. The fact that it´s a genuine original in the opaque blockchain market which its competitors in that sector are not

2. The fact that it has genuinely distinguishing features at the commercial level (as opposed to just the technical level) which are able to justify its existence distinctly from Bitcoin or Litecoin

3. The fact that it has a lot of market cap to lose (4 times that of its nearest competitor in the privacy field) and there´s not one single top 10 market cap candidate available to take its place which can be as readily plugged into the Bitcoin API infrastructure while supporting a thoroughly opaque address space

4. The fact that over the last week, DRK´s nearest competitor lost nearly 70% of its market cap while DRK lost less than 10% of its market cap

5. The fact that it now has in place a unique type of network infrastructure which - whatever one´s opinion on its merits or weaknesses - opens up distinct development opportunities for the future

Thats enough for me to think it will "be saved" as you put it.

[Youghoor]

What makes you think dark will be saved?

1. The fact that it´s a genuine original in the opaque blockchain market which its competitors in that sector are not

2. The fact that it has genuinely distinguishing features at the commercial level (as opposed to just the technical level) which are able to justify its existence distinctly from Bitcoin or Litecoin

3. The fact that it has a lot of market cap to loose (4 times that of its nearest competitor in the privacy field) and there´s not one single top 10 market cap candidate available to take its place which can be as readily plugged into the Bitcoin API infrastructure while supporting a thoroughly opaque address space

4. The fact that over the last week, DRK´s nearest competitor lost nearly 70% of its market cap while DRK lost less than 10% of its market cap

5. The fact that it now has in place a unique type of network infrastructure which - whatever one´s opinion on its merits or weaknesses - opens up distinct development opportunities for the future

Thats enough for me to think it will "be saved" as you put it.

right as the drk is the future coin

[thelonecrouton]

You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down.

You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply.  

I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment

'investment investment investment investment....' - that's you're problem right there, and it's not one I share.

DRK has value to me because it means I can keep my finances, my spending etc. completely private. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this viewpoint.

Good but that sounds like a happy customer attitude. Investor wants returns from what he invested. A product can be great and whatnot. But when you anticipate that the price is going down you could short it and have more in the future. 2 masternodes better than 1?  

People trying to generate free money out of thin air are exactly what's wrong with the world economy. Sooner or later the free ride is over, your money is worthless, and you're left with bugger all of any real value. See most fiat currencies for example.

Remember when money was made building stuff, innovating, providing better and more useful services to people? This is what creates actual wealth, not shuffling comedy guv paper through a never ending stream of 'financial products' in a downward spiral of desperation and stupidity.