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August 13, 2014, 12:23:28 AM
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They want buttonless gadgets? Give 'em buttonless gadgets...

I think the issue is one of confidence or lack of it. Most people will worry that pressing something will send their coins into hyper space and they will never see them again.

All it needs is a big red button that says - Keep Calm and press here (....works a treat on the ladies  Wink)

Most users I've ever had to endure don't worry at all, they just randomly mash the keyboard/screen/whatever and it's all magic to them anyway.
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August 13, 2014, 12:23:36 AM
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Seriously, what are governments going to do about large crypto holders hiding funds to avoid taxes? Usually they just put a freeze on the accounts the funds are stored in, but.... can't do that here folks. Other than take assets (house, cars) I don't know how they can prove who's coins are who's to even determine if they owe a certain amount of taxes in the first place. Man no wonder the guv hates crypto.
I think this seriously overstates the matter. 99.9999% of the population is way too stupid and lazy to use crypto. The few that aren't, they're gullible and taken in by the FUD of "backingz and central issuerz" crap. A handful left over, the 5 guys that post in this thread... Even if the guv came after every crypto holder, even if they COULD come after every crypto holder, their losses in expended resources would far, far eclipse an possible gains they could make of it. They have bigger and easier targets dealing in the already-existing cash... Look how I mouth off on here. I'm not stupid... I just know it's hopeless. They may well come-a-knockin'. Prove it, fuckwads! Maybe I'm just a loudmouth troll with not a DRK to my name... Nobody really knows, and they never will.

The War on Drugs is an enormous failure. I can't imagine a way for govenrment to prove itself more impotent and incompetent.

Oh, except for a war on crypto... That would be just plain fucking hilarious to watch... Government would prove itself utterly fucking useless, even in the eyes of it's staunchest worshipers. There would be no way to hide the emperor behind the curtain with no clothes anymore, and it would be all their own arrogant, stupid doing.

Back in 1995, 99% of the population were too stupid to use the internet, fast forward 20 years and for most people it's a daily occurrence.  I think the key to DRK's success is not only the anonymous side of things but also mass acceptance, we need to learn from what bitcoin did well and not so well in this particular area.  If we achieve mass acceptance, even only with the black market, we will do well, very very well.

I'm a techie not an UIexpert/artist, but I think the simpler we can make the wallet for a start, the better. There should be an 'appliance' version that just has 3 rounds of DS+ hardcoded in with nothing a user can mess with, or something along those lines, as well as a more 'traditional' wallet.

They want buttonless gadgets? Give 'em buttonless gadgets... one screen (the existing wallet is a mess of redundant information and wasted space anyway) with a 'contacts' widget and a Send button. That's all most people need.

Yes, idiot proof it.
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August 13, 2014, 12:24:36 AM
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if we want the average joe to start using this.
We don't. At least not this part of "we."

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August 13, 2014, 12:26:06 AM
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Gawd I fucking hate humans... Always dumbing things down until it's as useless as they are...

No. No. No.

You are at the top of the food chain. That means you need to have lots and lots of dumb people at the bottom of the food chain to, err, feed the intermediary layers that eventual culminates with you.

That's not a ponzi, that's life 101
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August 13, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
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Most users I've ever had to endure don't worry at all, they just randomly mash the keyboard/screen/whatever and it's all magic to them anyway.
This.

Do what's best for the project. Idiot proofing is an exercise in futility. There's always a fucking crowd of goddamn incredible stupid assholes right around the corner. You can't stop them. Make it useful to people with brains.

Fuckups will fuck up anything no mater how hard you try, so don't waste your time catering to them, it's just wasted time because you're never going to win that fight. Resources spent on idiots are resources wasted.

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August 13, 2014, 12:28:59 AM
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Gawd I fucking hate humans... Always dumbing things down until it's as useless as they are...
No. No. No.

You are at the top of the food chain. That means you need to have lots and lots of dumb people at the bottom of the food chain to, err, feed the intermediary layers that eventual culminates with you.

That's not a ponzi, that's life 101
They are below me whether I cater to them or not. Why waste my energies on a lost cause that isn't going to change anyway?

The 99% are not "down there" because the 1% put them there. They are down there because they are fucking stupid and they constantly put themselves down there. The cream simply rises to the top. Can't help it...

It's not my doing, that they sink themselves. Nothing I do can change the nature of their poor choices.

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August 13, 2014, 12:29:50 AM
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Most users I've ever had to endure don't worry at all, they just randomly mash the keyboard/screen/whatever and it's all magic to them anyway.
This.

Do what's best for the project. Idiot proofing is an exercise in futility. There's always a fucking crowd of goddamn incredible stupid assholes right around the corner. You can't stop them. Make it useful to people with brains.

Fuckups will fuck up anything no mater how hard you try, so don't waste your time catering to them, it's just wasted time because you're never going to win that fight. Resources spent on idiots are resources wasted.

Look at how Apple got so big... Simple user interface, technology behind the scenes...

The new generation have arrived and they brought their own currency...
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August 13, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
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Me too. I would love if it were to simply hit $7 at this point. However if it hits higher...
$20 = new motorcycle
$15 = vacation
$10 = new clothes
$5  = reinvest
$1  = I'll tell Robin Williams...  
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August 13, 2014, 12:31:39 AM
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Can we call the smaller DRK denominations medi-chlorians now we have an official Star Wars analogy?


You make me discover medi-chlorians.

+101

Actually, whoever first thought of medi-chlorians in the 1960s or 70s was way ahead of their time - dark matter is basically the modern scientific name for what was science fiction but is now becoming scientific fact (just about on topic)
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August 13, 2014, 12:32:43 AM
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Gawd I fucking hate humans... Always dumbing things down until it's as useless as they are...
No. No. No.

You are at the top of the food chain. That means you need to have lots and lots of dumb people at the bottom of the food chain to, err, feed the intermediary layers that eventual culminates with you.

That's not a ponzi, that's life 101
They are below me whether I cater to them or not. Why waste my energies on a lost cause that isn't going to change anyway?

The 99% are not "down there" because the 1% put them there. They are down there because they are fucking stupid and they constantly put themselves down there. The cream simply rises to the top. Can't help it...

Cannon fodder! We can put them to good use...  Grin
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August 13, 2014, 12:33:18 AM
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Most users I've ever had to endure don't worry at all, they just randomly mash the keyboard/screen/whatever and it's all magic to them anyway.
This.

Do what's best for the project. Idiot proofing is an exercise in futility. There's always a fucking crowd of goddamn incredible stupid assholes right around the corner. You can't stop them. Make it useful to people with brains.

Fuckups will fuck up anything no mater how hard you try, so don't waste your time catering to them, it's just wasted time because you're never going to win that fight. Resources spent on idiots are resources wasted.
Look at how Apple got so big... Simple user interface, technology behind the scenes...
I've used that same example myself. If you want to make a lot of money selling a product, cater to the stupid. Reduce powerful technology to appliance level.

DRK is not a product or service being sold. It's a currency. It needs to have rules and function, not stupidity.

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August 13, 2014, 12:33:46 AM
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Me too. I would love if it were to simply hit $7 at this point. However if it hits higher...
$20 = new motorcycle
$15 = vacation
$10 = new clothes
$5  = reinvest
$1  = I'll tell Robin Williams...  

Too bad you're selling all your DRK to buy more croak, eh?  Roll Eyes
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August 13, 2014, 12:35:16 AM
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Me too. I would love if it were to simply hit $7 at this point. However if it hits higher...
$20 = new motorcycle
$15 = vacation
$10 = new clothes
$5  = reinvest
$1  = I'll tell Robin Williams...  

$50 = I'm doubling my farm.
$20 = I'm ordering some weed.
$15 = I'm replacing all the GPU's currently giving me the shits.
$10 = Do Nothing.
$5  = Do Nothing.
$1  = Take a hose to my farm, take off all my clothes and disappear into the wilderness to live with the animals.  I believe this is called PoC, Proof of Camo.... Wink

The new generation have arrived and they brought their own currency...
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August 13, 2014, 12:35:50 AM
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Cannon fodder! We can put them to good use...  Grin

You are agreeing with Nr.1 (he is still a strong candidate).

Your ElSolo designation is in danger of being removed. You are sailing dangerously close to being a two crouton gang.
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August 13, 2014, 12:36:27 AM
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Me too. I would love if it were to simply hit $7 at this point. However if it hits higher...
$20 = new motorcycle
$15 = vacation
$10 = new clothes
$5  = reinvest
$1  = I'll tell Robin Williams...  

1$ = I still made 1000% on my investment. Robin... The only Liberal Douche that I'll miss.
5$ = I really don't care.
10$ = I still don't care.
15$ = Still not caring...
20$ = Snore...

See, I don't think up ways to blow my money before I even have it... That's why I have so much and you have so little.

At $100 I might peel off a small percentage to snatch up a Model S. I'm not gonna cash out to buy some disposable crap...

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August 13, 2014, 12:39:04 AM
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Too bad you're selling all your DRK to buy more croak, eh?  Roll Eyes

If I get good profit, sure. Cloak is super cheap and has a good record of recovery.
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August 13, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
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Seriously, what are governments going to do about large crypto holders hiding funds to avoid taxes? Usually they just put a freeze on the accounts the funds are stored in, but.... can't do that here folks. Other than take assets (house, cars) I don't know how they can prove who's coins are who's to even determine if they owe a certain amount of taxes in the first place. Man no wonder the guv hates crypto.
I think this seriously overstates the matter. 99.9999% of the population is way too stupid and lazy to use crypto. The few that aren't, they're gullible and taken in by the FUD of "backingz and central issuerz" crap. A handful left over, the 5 guys that post in this thread... Even if the guv came after every crypto holder, even if they COULD come after every crypto holder, their losses in expended resources would far, far eclipse an possible gains they could make of it. They have bigger and easier targets dealing in the already-existing cash... Look how I mouth off on here. I'm not stupid... I just know it's hopeless. They may well come-a-knockin'. Prove it, fuckwads! Maybe I'm just a loudmouth troll with not a DRK to my name... Nobody really knows, and they never will.

The War on Drugs is an enormous failure. I can't imagine a way for govenrment to prove itself more impotent and incompetent.

Oh, except for a war on crypto... That would be just plain fucking hilarious to watch... Government would prove itself utterly fucking useless, even in the eyes of it's staunchest worshipers. There would be no way to hide the emperor behind the curtain with no clothes anymore, and it would be all their own arrogant, stupid doing.

Back in 1995, 99% of the population were too stupid to use the internet, fast forward 20 years and for most people it's a daily occurrence.  I think the key to DRK's success is not only the anonymous side of things but also mass acceptance, we need to learn from what bitcoin did well and not so well in this particular area.  If we achieve mass acceptance, even only with the black market, we will do well, very very well.

I'm a techie not an UIexpert/artist, but I think the simpler we can make the wallet for a start, the better. There should be an 'appliance' version that just has 3 rounds of DS+ hardcoded in with nothing a user can mess with, or something along those lines, as well as a more 'traditional' wallet.

They want buttonless gadgets? Give 'em buttonless gadgets... one screen (the existing wallet is a mess of redundant information and wasted space anyway) with a 'contacts' widget and a Send button. That's all most people need.

I think a dedicated Linux distro with an included DRK wallet would be a great idea. Get rid of any unnecessary packages - some of which could potentially be security threats - for a small image file. It could be used as a live USB (with or without persistence) or installed from USB. An official clean installation should be very safe for the masses to use, although the partitioner would probably need to be locked down somehow in the installer!
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August 13, 2014, 12:44:09 AM
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Too bad you're selling all your DRK to buy more croak, eh?  Roll Eyes
If I get good profit, sure. Cloaca is super cheap and has a good record of recovery.
Too bad it hasn't got a record of any reason for that recovery; it's just random pump and dump...

You can bounce a check only so many times...

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August 13, 2014, 12:45:48 AM
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Seriously, what are governments going to do about large crypto holders hiding funds to avoid taxes? Usually they just put a freeze on the accounts the funds are stored in, but.... can't do that here folks. Other than take assets (house, cars) I don't know how they can prove who's coins are who's to even determine if they owe a certain amount of taxes in the first place. Man no wonder the guv hates crypto.
I think this seriously overstates the matter. 99.9999% of the population is way too stupid and lazy to use crypto. The few that aren't, they're gullible and taken in by the FUD of "backingz and central issuerz" crap. A handful left over, the 5 guys that post in this thread... Even if the guv came after every crypto holder, even if they COULD come after every crypto holder, their losses in expended resources would far, far eclipse an possible gains they could make of it. They have bigger and easier targets dealing in the already-existing cash... Look how I mouth off on here. I'm not stupid... I just know it's hopeless. They may well come-a-knockin'. Prove it, fuckwads! Maybe I'm just a loudmouth troll with not a DRK to my name... Nobody really knows, and they never will.

The War on Drugs is an enormous failure. I can't imagine a way for govenrment to prove itself more impotent and incompetent.

Oh, except for a war on crypto... That would be just plain fucking hilarious to watch... Government would prove itself utterly fucking useless, even in the eyes of it's staunchest worshipers. There would be no way to hide the emperor behind the curtain with no clothes anymore, and it would be all their own arrogant, stupid doing.
Back in 1995, 99% of the population were too stupid to use the internet, fast forward 20 years and for most people it's a daily occurrence.  I think the key to DRK's success is not only the anonymous side of things but also mass acceptance, we need to learn from what bitcoin did well and not so well in this particular area.  If we achieve mass acceptance, even only with the black market, we will do well, very very well.
I'm a techie not an UIexpert/artist, but I think the simpler we can make the wallet for a start, the better. There should be an 'appliance' version that just has 3 rounds of DS+ hardcoded in with nothing a user can mess with, or something along those lines, as well as a more 'traditional' wallet.

They want buttonless gadgets? Give 'em buttonless gadgets... one screen (the existing wallet is a mess of redundant information and wasted space anyway) with a 'contacts' widget and a Send button. That's all most people need.
I think a dedicated Linux distro with an included DRK wallet would be a great idea. Get rid of any unnecessary packages - some of which could potentially be security threats - for a small image file. It could be used as a live USB (with or without persistence) or installed from USB. An official clean installation should be very safe for the masses to use, although the partitioner would probably need to be locked down somehow in the installer!
Dedicate this much resource tot he stupid, and see if they even figure out how to plug it in... Sure, tell them to set their BIOS to boot from USB. Go ahead. I dare you...

Check out Liberte Linux for a good start on what looks like an abandoned project...

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August 13, 2014, 12:46:45 AM
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Who likes my new sig?
There are some things Bitcoin can't buy. For everything else, there's Darkcoin
Hehe Smiley hmmm sounds like I`ve been seen this before Wink

I only have one original idea every 2 years or so, and I think you taxed my last one lol.

I like your new sig. Cheesy
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