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February 05, 2015, 01:43:42 PM |
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Somehow I can't see too many people outside of guvverment getting all enthusiastic about "Future Tax Coin."  |
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GhostPlayer
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February 05, 2015, 02:23:04 PM |
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Damn it, I missed it...  how was it? |
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February 05, 2015, 02:47:19 PM |
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Damn it, I missed it... how was it? Varoufakis basically went full throttle charm offensive painting himself as a passionate pro-EU, pro statist, anti Greek corruption. "Help us fight Greek corruption and make Europe strong". Outwardly, much warmer than the meeting with Dijsselbloem the other day, but all the same, he didn't hand Shauble very much meat. What Shauble want is for them to eat their new tranches of debt and that still wasn't on offer. Meanwhile, ECB has let them have Eu60 billion by some back door mechanism, but it might not be enough according to some. I actually think that Varoufakis is playing a very interesting card. He gives everyone something (even crypto-nerds !) but no-one everything. Nobody knows what his real agenda is. If you take him as face value, it's to catalyse some real economic activity in Greece by revising the terms of their bailouts. At the same time he must know that what he want's simply isn't on the cards without a mini revolution in EU bureaucracy and potential weakening of the "centre". The problem for the EU beaurocrats is that he's potentially the "real deal" when it comes to European integration - in other words he supports it for the right reasons and believes Europe should work for people as opposed to those who just want to see a consolidation of fiscal and political power and f*ck the "citizens". Either way, he's a potential unguided missile I think - not easy for them to control even though he may "think" he's on their side. ...on the other hand, he could just be a total wolf in sheeps clothing about to do a complete sellout of the Greek nation:  |
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GhostPlayer
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February 05, 2015, 03:00:30 PM |
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Thanks Honest Tim !! Starting to watch right now.
So far, the only thing I can say is that their recent proposal (which I heard from national news) is that they do not propose neither a bailout nor simply deleting the debt (obviously, in technical terms) ... but a re-negociation of the loan so they can pay it off from the interest rate generated from their GDP, but... with no fixed deadline. Meaning, in practical terms, they would pay the debt with whatever means they have, and no suicidal / implausible / irrealistic way.
This is very nice, but 320 billion euros payed off from GDP interest could very well go on further than BTC's coin's issuance.
Very interesting times indeed...
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toknormal
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February 05, 2015, 03:07:39 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. |
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Honest Tim
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February 05, 2015, 03:50:01 PM |
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He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions.
Yeah, well that for me is a screaming red flashing warning light that he's a wolf in sheeps garb as opposed to the real deal. Unless that is, his Sensei is Vladamir Putin, and he is playing the lying, scheming elite by using there own methods against them (ie, he actually does believe in real tangible assets and limited supply, but needs to talk the elites talk, whilst doing whats right). Who knows? Just watch what they DO not what they say. |
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thelonecrouton
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February 05, 2015, 04:23:24 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. Although removing gold standard did not stop crisis from occuring and literally nothing changed for the peasants (us). The removal of gold standard allowed banks to print shit loads of money... The idea as "Gold standard is evil" is illogical. So the whole world was trading some tangible meaningful item gold (money backed by gold), gold can be digged from the ground or bought up, but it can not be made out of thin air. Also, gold can be used in a all different ways. Gold was replaced with a toilet paper, this toilet paper is printed at incredible rates, half of the time it is not even printed but rather added as a number into a bank account. And such system is good to us. Is good for the whole world to trade toilet paper because when we run out, we can just make it with a magic stick and have more toilet paper. So we have ever increasing debts, ever increasing unequal weatlh distribution and never solvable problems... Its like when we had a gold standard - we had issues, issues we could not escape by running away... In a normal sane world Satoshi Nakamoto would receive a nobel prize in every single category, even literature... Sadly we dont live in a normal world, rather insane: gay people cant marry, cant adopt, ISIS, Russia raping ints neighbours, constant crisis, polution, parents refusing to vaccinate childern, religion... you name it... Like wau! I should buy a cabine in a woods and go live somewhere in the wilderness... I was with you up until the bolded part. Russia isn't raping anyone. The US though? Here's a fun fact: there are about 196 nations on Earth and in the last 3 years US special forces by SOCOM's own admission have been active in over 150 of them. Hint, special forces are not deployed anywhere in order to deliver lollipops, cuddly toys and huggles. |
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Artoodeetoo
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February 05, 2015, 04:25:38 PM |
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Heavy DRK buying going on at these levels now, I think we have found a new base...
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DASH #DashDC #DashIntoDigitalCash
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February 05, 2015, 04:26:46 PM |
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Heavy DRK buying going on at these levels now, I think we have found a new base...
Grabbing some  |
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wozzek23
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February 05, 2015, 04:36:29 PM |
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Heavy DRK buying going on at these levels now, I think we have found a new base...
Difficult to know, but it certainly seems like you might be right Bought some more yesterday and tomorrow, once my BTC purchase clears, buying more. At these levels it seems so cheap... |
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Artoodeetoo
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February 05, 2015, 05:14:48 PM |
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Dont blame you guys, i took another 2 BTC worth when it legged up to 700.. It is very cheap... Or it will look that way very soon |
DASH #DashDC #DashIntoDigitalCash
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February 05, 2015, 05:21:17 PM |
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Dont blame you guys, i took another 2 BTC worth when it legged up to 700.. It is very cheap... Or it will look that way very soon If it is cheap then it will be more profit in the long time. |
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February 05, 2015, 05:49:30 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. Although removing gold standard did not stop crisis from occuring and literally nothing changed for the peasants (us). The removal of gold standard allowed banks to print shit loads of money... The idea as "Gold standard is evil" is illogical. So the whole world was trading some tangible meaningful item gold (money backed by gold), gold can be digged from the ground or bought up, but it can not be made out of thin air. Also, gold can be used in a all different ways. Gold was replaced with a toilet paper, this toilet paper is printed at incredible rates, half of the time it is not even printed but rather added as a number into a bank account. And such system is good to us. Is good for the whole world to trade toilet paper because when we run out, we can just make it with a magic stick and have more toilet paper. So we have ever increasing debts, ever increasing unequal weatlh distribution and never solvable problems... Its like when we had a gold standard - we had issues, issues we could not escape by running away... In a normal sane world Satoshi Nakamoto would receive a nobel prize in every single category, even literature... Sadly we dont live in a normal world, rather insane: gay people cant marry, cant adopt, ISIS, Russia raping ints neighbours, constant crisis, polution, parents refusing to vaccinate childern, religion... you name it... Like wau! I should buy a cabine in a woods and go live somewhere in the wilderness... I was with you up until the bolded part. Russia isn't raping anyone. The US though? Here's a fun fact: there are about 196 nations on Earth and in the last 3 years US special forces by SOCOM's own admission have been active in over 150 of them. Hint, special forces are not deployed anywhere in order to deliver lollipops, cuddly toys and huggles. Russia is actually raping Ukraine as we speak... |
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Honest Tim
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February 05, 2015, 05:55:07 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. Although removing gold standard did not stop crisis from occuring and literally nothing changed for the peasants (us). The removal of gold standard allowed banks to print shit loads of money... The idea as "Gold standard is evil" is illogical. So the whole world was trading some tangible meaningful item gold (money backed by gold), gold can be digged from the ground or bought up, but it can not be made out of thin air. Also, gold can be used in a all different ways. Gold was replaced with a toilet paper, this toilet paper is printed at incredible rates, half of the time it is not even printed but rather added as a number into a bank account. And such system is good to us. Is good for the whole world to trade toilet paper because when we run out, we can just make it with a magic stick and have more toilet paper. So we have ever increasing debts, ever increasing unequal weatlh distribution and never solvable problems... Its like when we had a gold standard - we had issues, issues we could not escape by running away... In a normal sane world Satoshi Nakamoto would receive a nobel prize in every single category, even literature... Sadly we dont live in a normal world, rather insane: gay people cant marry, cant adopt, ISIS, Russia raping ints neighbours, constant crisis, polution, parents refusing to vaccinate childern, religion... you name it... Like wau! I should buy a cabine in a woods and go live somewhere in the wilderness... I was with you up until the bolded part. Russia isn't raping anyone. The US though? Here's a fun fact: there are about 196 nations on Earth and in the last 3 years US special forces by SOCOM's own admission have been active in over 150 of them. Hint, special forces are not deployed anywhere in order to deliver lollipops, cuddly toys and huggles. Russia is actually raping Ukraine as we speak... So what exactly is it doing that is 'rape'?? |
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February 05, 2015, 06:00:22 PM |
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Ulbricht found guilty on all counts by Jury.
[not 100% sure on this] Including being found guilty of hiring a hitman to kill someone threatening to leak information about Silk Road users.
Just an FYI he wasn't found guilty for hiring a hit man, those chargers were never brought against him. All the charges he was convicted of had to do with operating the silk road. Whether or not he intentionally hurt anybody in the process is something we will probably never know. |
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February 05, 2015, 06:00:34 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. Although removing gold standard did not stop crisis from occuring and literally nothing changed for the peasants (us). The removal of gold standard allowed banks to print shit loads of money... The idea as "Gold standard is evil" is illogical. So the whole world was trading some tangible meaningful item gold (money backed by gold), gold can be digged from the ground or bought up, but it can not be made out of thin air. Also, gold can be used in a all different ways. Gold was replaced with a toilet paper, this toilet paper is printed at incredible rates, half of the time it is not even printed but rather added as a number into a bank account. And such system is good to us. Is good for the whole world to trade toilet paper because when we run out, we can just make it with a magic stick and have more toilet paper. So we have ever increasing debts, ever increasing unequal weatlh distribution and never solvable problems... Its like when we had a gold standard - we had issues, issues we could not escape by running away... In a normal sane world Satoshi Nakamoto would receive a nobel prize in every single category, even literature... Sadly we dont live in a normal world, rather insane: gay people cant marry, cant adopt, ISIS, Russia raping ints neighbours, constant crisis, polution, parents refusing to vaccinate childern, religion... you name it... Like wau! I should buy a cabine in a woods and go live somewhere in the wilderness... I was with you up until the bolded part. Russia isn't raping anyone. The US though? Here's a fun fact: there are about 196 nations on Earth and in the last 3 years US special forces by SOCOM's own admission have been active in over 150 of them. Hint, special forces are not deployed anywhere in order to deliver lollipops, cuddly toys and huggles. Russia is actually raping Ukraine as we speak... So what exactly is it doing that is 'rape'?? 1) Like taking a piece of land known ac Crymea. (Dont even try to say:"Oh this was Russia all along, if so, then when will you return clay that belongs to Finland?) 2) Bombing hospitals, cities, looting from factories, torturing POWs - the ones that are defending their land. 3) Shooting down planes and blaming it was Ukraine 4) Destroying infrastructure: factories, bridges, roads, airports |
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thevictimofuktyranny
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February 05, 2015, 06:11:08 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. Although removing gold standard did not stop crisis from occuring and literally nothing changed for the peasants (us). The removal of gold standard allowed banks to print shit loads of money... The idea as "Gold standard is evil" is illogical. So the whole world was trading some tangible meaningful item gold (money backed by gold), gold can be digged from the ground or bought up, but it can not be made out of thin air. Also, gold can be used in a all different ways. Gold was replaced with a toilet paper, this toilet paper is printed at incredible rates, half of the time it is not even printed but rather added as a number into a bank account. And such system is good to us. Is good for the whole world to trade toilet paper because when we run out, we can just make it with a magic stick and have more toilet paper. So we have ever increasing debts, ever increasing unequal weatlh distribution and never solvable problems... Its like when we had a gold standard - we had issues, issues we could not escape by running away... In a normal sane world Satoshi Nakamoto would receive a nobel prize in every single category, even literature... Sadly we dont live in a normal world, rather insane: gay people cant marry, cant adopt, ISIS, Russia raping ints neighbours, constant crisis, polution, parents refusing to vaccinate childern, religion... you name it... Like wau! I should buy a cabine in a woods and go live somewhere in the wilderness... I was with you up until the bolded part. Russia isn't raping anyone. The US though? Here's a fun fact: there are about 196 nations on Earth and in the last 3 years US special forces by SOCOM's own admission have been active in over 150 of them. Hint, special forces are not deployed anywhere in order to deliver lollipops, cuddly toys and huggles. Russia is actually raping Ukraine as we speak... So what exactly is it doing that is 'rape'?? 1) Like taking a piece of land known ac Crymea. (Dont even try to say:"Oh this was Russia all along, if so, then when will you return clay that belongs to Finland?) 2) Bombing hospitals, cities, looting from factories, torturing POWs - the ones that are defending their land. 3) Shooting down planes and blaming it was Ukraine 4) Destroying infrastructure: factories, bridges, roads, airports This is not the place to post this kind of political bullsh*t  This is crypto-currency thread, it completely irrelevant to Darkcoin |
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aleix
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February 05, 2015, 06:13:52 PM |
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Very interesting times indeed...
It's interesting listening to that discussion he had with Andreas Antonopolis. Very civilised - no mud slinging - but crystal clear that he doesn't believe that cryptocurrencies can remotely replace fiat in their economic function. He doesn't even believe in a limited supply currency base and thinks that the gold standard "caused" the 1930s depressions. All the same, he totally "gets" blockchain technologies. Although removing gold standard did not stop crisis from occuring and literally nothing changed for the peasants (us). The removal of gold standard allowed banks to print shit loads of money... The idea as "Gold standard is evil" is illogical. So the whole world was trading some tangible meaningful item gold (money backed by gold), gold can be digged from the ground or bought up, but it can not be made out of thin air. Also, gold can be used in a all different ways. Gold was replaced with a toilet paper, this toilet paper is printed at incredible rates, half of the time it is not even printed but rather added as a number into a bank account. And such system is good to us. Is good for the whole world to trade toilet paper because when we run out, we can just make it with a magic stick and have more toilet paper. So we have ever increasing debts, ever increasing unequal weatlh distribution and never solvable problems... Its like when we had a gold standard - we had issues, issues we could not escape by running away... In a normal sane world Satoshi Nakamoto would receive a nobel prize in every single category, even literature... Sadly we dont live in a normal world, rather insane: gay people cant marry, cant adopt, ISIS, Russia raping ints neighbours, constant crisis, polution, parents refusing to vaccinate childern, religion... you name it... Like wau! I should buy a cabine in a woods and go live somewhere in the wilderness... I was with you up until the bolded part. Russia isn't raping anyone. The US though? Here's a fun fact: there are about 196 nations on Earth and in the last 3 years US special forces by SOCOM's own admission have been active in over 150 of them. Hint, special forces are not deployed anywhere in order to deliver lollipops, cuddly toys and huggles. Russia is actually raping Ukraine as we speak... So what exactly is it doing that is 'rape'?? 1) Like taking a piece of land known ac Crymea. (Dont even try to say:"Oh this was Russia all along, if so, then when will you return clay that belongs to Finland?) 2) Bombing hospitals, cities, looting from factories, torturing POWs - the ones that are defending their land. 3) Shooting down planes and blaming it was Ukraine 4) Destroying infrastructure: factories, bridges, roads, airports The old big bear is not a trust neighbor. Polish, Bulgarians, Czechs, etc... know that. We the Europeans we are always complaining, but after 2 big civil wars last century, we learnt to live toghether. |
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