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January 28, 2015, 09:21:36 AM
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Following on from LucD88's query about why his wallet balance isn't the same as his MN's address listing on the block explorer, I'd really like to read a guide on how addresses work, the specifics of coin control and the concepts around change (and why getting lots of dust mining payments makes your wallet.dat bloated and what you should do about it).

I know this is in reality bitcoin 101 stuff, but I feel like I'm missing key parts of how that all works. If anyone knows of a good easy-to-read document explaining this stuff, please post a link. I'm sure there are many others that need some education in this are too.

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January 28, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
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So what does this mean exactly? Everything is fine? Tongue

How come the funds on that address show up in my MN wallet? These are the only addresses that my MN wallet has: https://i.imgur.com/G7kC16l.jpg, the one you linked to is a completely different address. Wut...

Yes, everything is fine. It's a change address. Change addresses do not show up under normal addresses and are only found via coin control. If you are curious to see, enable coin control, go to the send tab and go into inputs. You should see that exact change amount designated as a change address.
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January 28, 2015, 09:37:57 AM
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Okay some weird stuff is going on here.. I just updated to 11.0.14 and suddenly my MN wallet is showing more coins than it actually has.

http://explorer.darkcoin.fr/address/XvJPvhhtn9AQeL8t6KWCN6bR8UjyRetsta

Balance: 1005.95679 DRK
Last payment: 23-01-2015

Screenshot shows the same last payment, but the amount of DRK is more..??



And on a sidenote: I haven't received a payment to any of my Masternodes for the past 5 days. I'm either doing something terribly wrong, or am I just unlucky?

It sure looks like change... check coin control for a different change address. Has nothing to do with the update. Finally, enforcement is back on so payments should even back out again.

Yep, your change is in this address http://explorer.darkcoin.fr/address/Xjs2oimzYocbBbVnE9zsjzx1NfotEspty1 from when you scrapped your payments off your masternode back to 1k.
So what does this mean exactly? Everything is fine? Tongue

How come the funds on that address show up in my MN wallet? These are the only addresses that my MN wallet has: https://i.imgur.com/G7kC16l.jpg, the one you linked to is a completely different address. Wut...

This is your tx http://explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/27c4183a9c30c3afd26dcb0bcc30b4cfdc640eff65d6231a0e0c21ab1899f2c8#o1 when you moved 69 DRK of MN payments to another address. However "Total in: 69.24965" and "Fee: 0.0007" so you got 0.24895 as change. Go to Preferences -> Wallet -> tick "Enable coin control features". Now go to Send tab and click "Inputs..." (optional - click "List mode") - there should be your MN (1000 DRK), 3 new payments (2.45609, 1.7507, 1.75) and change (0.24895). Try selecting few (let's say 2.45609 and 1.7507) and click ok. You should see a lot of info on Send tab now. Enter some amount less then Amount shown in Coin control section (let's say 1 DRK) and you'll see Change calculated there. Change addresses are generated automatically each time you send coins (if change is >0) to return leftover back to you wallet. You can override it however by using "Custom change address" field.

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January 28, 2015, 09:39:12 AM
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Following on from LucD88's query about why his wallet balance isn't the same as his MN's address listing on the block explorer, I'd really like to read a guide on how addresses work, the specifics of coin control and the concepts around change (and why getting lots of dust mining payments makes your wallet.dat bloated and what you should do about it).

I know this is in reality bitcoin 101 stuff, but I feel like I'm missing key parts of how that all works. If anyone knows of a good easy-to-read document explaining this stuff, please post a link. I'm sure there are many others that need some education in this are too.

Everything is fine and showing what should be shown. The way he sent his coins ended up with change back (new change address). You can see that they aren't spent in the block explorer. Anyway, some reading:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c9xr7/psa_using_paper_wallets_understanding_change/
http://bitzuma.com/posts/five-ways-to-lose-money-with-bitcoin-change-addresses/
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January 28, 2015, 09:39:47 AM
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Thanks for being cool about answering questions and whatnot Otoh.

P.S. , looks like our block reward has been decreased by 7%!

YVW! As promised, I've topped the Crsptsy wall back up to > 100 BTC now



So if anyone feels like unloading a few, please to feel free Wink



It seems your title of "Legendary" is well deserved, LOL Wink  I'm in AWE of you!

Otoh seems one of the few that is planning ( hopefully ) to change a lot of BTC for DRK.
As many BTC bag holders are in it for investments aren't they interested in buying in DRK at this time as DRK with all the technical advances has a lot of potential to follow same route that BTC did in the past ?
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January 28, 2015, 09:54:57 AM
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http://prntscr.com/5y1on2

this was me Smiley

another round tomorrow Cheesy

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January 28, 2015, 09:59:09 AM
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Why does only 11.0.14 show as "fully active" when the latest download is 11.0.13 ?

Where's this version 14 coming from ?





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January 28, 2015, 10:09:42 AM
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Why does only 11.0.14 show as "fully active" when the latest download is 11.0.13 ?

Where's this version 14 coming from ?







11.0.14 Core - All Users

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/v0-11-0-darkcoin-core-release.3601/page-34#post-38830

- Improved syncing speed (eduffield)
- Improved pre-mixing to create denominated amounts (UdjinM6)
- Update darkcoin-qt.desktop (vertoe)
- fix overpaying for DSTX - If you're using Darksend, please update (eduffield)
- make collateral inputs from all available inputs but not from mn-like (UdjinM6)
- 4 rounds default for DS, litemode changes for mining
- Catch UTXO set read errors and shutdown (UdjinM6)
- dseg limitations (eduffield)
- more fixes/cleanup/debug output to DS mixing (UdjinM6)
- Moved the note about masternode private keys. (Perry Woodin)
- Made the distinction between masternode private key and wallet private key more clear. (Perry Woodin)

Source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin
Windows .exe: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-win.zip
Mac OSX: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/d...in-binaries/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-osx.dmg
Linux: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-linux.tar.gz
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January 28, 2015, 10:11:32 AM
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Yes, everything is fine. It's a change address. Change addresses do not show up under normal addresses and are only found via coin control. If you are curious to see, enable coin control, go to the send tab and go into inputs. You should see that exact change amount designated as a change address.

This is your tx http://explorer.darkcoin.fr/tx/27c4183a9c30c3afd26dcb0bcc30b4cfdc640eff65d6231a0e0c21ab1899f2c8#o1 when you moved 69 DRK of MN payments to another address. However "Total in: 69.24965" and "Fee: 0.0007" so you got 0.24895 as change. Go to Preferences -> Wallet -> tick "Enable coin control features". Now go to Send tab and click "Inputs..." (optional - click "List mode") - there should be your MN (1000 DRK), 3 new payments (2.45609, 1.7507, 1.75) and change (0.24895). Try selecting few (let's say 2.45609 and 1.7507) and click ok. You should see a lot of info on Send tab now. Enter some amount less then Amount shown in Coin control section (let's say 1 DRK) and you'll see Change calculated there. Change addresses are generated automatically each time you send coins (if change is >0) to return leftover back to you wallet. You can override it however by using "Custom change address" field.

Thanks for the time and explanation guys! Smiley Sure going to read up more about it.
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January 28, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
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Heads up p2pool owners.

It seems dstorm is not around anymore. Here is the new official minimally maintained p2pool repository for darkcoin:

 - https://github.com/vertoe/p2pool-drk
 - https://github.com/vertoe/darkcoin_hash
 - https://github.com/vertoe/darkcoin_subsidy

I updated the python modules because they really needed some clean ups and bug fixes.

Questions and discussions via PM or on DCT: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/p2pool-repository-and-python-modules.3380/
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January 28, 2015, 10:31:36 AM
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Following on from LucD88's query about why his wallet balance isn't the same as his MN's address listing on the block explorer, I'd really like to read a guide on how addresses work, the specifics of coin control and the concepts around change (and why getting lots of dust mining payments makes your wallet.dat bloated and what you should do about it).

I know this is in reality bitcoin 101 stuff, but I feel like I'm missing key parts of how that all works. If anyone knows of a good easy-to-read document explaining this stuff, please post a link. I'm sure there are many others that need some education in this are too.

Everything is fine and showing what should be shown. The way he sent his coins ended up with change back (new change address). You can see that they aren't spent in the block explorer. Anyway, some reading:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c9xr7/psa_using_paper_wallets_understanding_change/
http://bitzuma.com/posts/five-ways-to-lose-money-with-bitcoin-change-addresses/


Excellent articles, thanks Oblox; just what I was looking for.

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January 28, 2015, 11:06:32 AM
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11.0.14 Core - All Users

What about this ?


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January 28, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Last edit: January 28, 2015, 12:59:02 PM by Rux
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i dont understand why nobody is linking QT wallet on main...MAIN website

guys please dont play with simple things as this

edit: WTF im i in twilight zone? nobody is posting, answering, uploading... Cheesy

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Source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin
Windows .exe: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-win.zip
Mac OSX: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/d...in-binaries/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-osx.dmg
Linux: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-linux.tar.gz

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January 28, 2015, 01:12:09 PM
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i dont understand why nobody is linking QT wallet on main...MAIN website

guys please dont play with simple things as this

edit: WTF im i in twilight zone? nobody is posting, answering, uploading... Cheesy

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Source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin
Windows .exe: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-win.zip
Mac OSX: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/d...in-binaries/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-osx.dmg
Linux: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-linux.tar.gz


Probably because it isn't the most pressing thing to do being that the update isn't mandatory. Should it be on the website, sure, but is there a rush, no.
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January 28, 2015, 01:38:35 PM
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i dont understand why nobody is linking QT wallet on main...MAIN website

guys please dont play with simple things as this

edit: WTF im i in twilight zone? nobody is posting, answering, uploading... Cheesy

edit2:
Source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin
Windows .exe: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-win.zip
Mac OSX: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/d...in-binaries/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-osx.dmg
Linux: https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin-binaries/raw/master/darkcoin-0.11.0.14-linux.tar.gz


Probably because it isn't the most pressing thing to do being that the update isn't mandatory. Should it be on the website, sure, but is there a rush, no.

Website maintainers are having hard times because evan keeps deleting the old binaries (even though they are still working).

Currently the links for .13 are pointing nowhere.
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January 28, 2015, 01:47:52 PM
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11.0.14 Core - All Users

What about this ?



What about it? Nobody said it's required.. :O I'm just an update lunatic.. Tongue


Well you see, not one single 11.0.3 node on the Masternode Ninja reports as being fully active - they're all yellow. Meanwhile, all the 11.0.4's are green (100% active). So that would seem to suggest that the update *is* required (to me at least, if you want a green light on Ninja) Smiley.

However, the 'formal' downloads page has the latest update as 11.0.3: https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

Whereas this informal post has it as 11.0.4: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/v0-11-0-darkcoin-core-release.3601/page-34#post-38830

It's a bit confusing.
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January 28, 2015, 01:48:19 PM
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im not FUDing, im all DRK Smiley

i know all this, but for newcomers this has to be fixed ASAP!

Wink

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January 28, 2015, 01:55:18 PM
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Hi,

As a MN owner I read this topic a zillion times a day for updates. I might just post this even once or twice to let you guys know im here as well  Wink

Flare does my Mn for me and am happy with his work.

Point is, i have a Raspberry Pi model B (512ram) hanging around in the corner catching dust atm after a failed attempt to get a media player in the bedroom (worked but not used hehe).

Is it possible to get a distro on the PI, update with the firewall and all whats needed and run the MN myself? Then just hook it up my router and open port 9999 to it  Smiley

My thanks goes to the dev team for all its excellent work in the past and in the future!

EDIT: My activity is now: 2!  Woot Wink

Run a masternode on a raspberry pi 2 @home! Follow my noobfriendly tutorial @ https://dashtalk.org/threads/masternode-on-raspberry-pi-2-model-b.4083
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January 28, 2015, 01:59:31 PM
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Well you see, not one single 11.0.3 node on the Masternode Ninja reports as being fully active - they're all yellow. Meanwhile, all the 11.0.4's are green (100% active). So that would seem to suggest that the update *is* required (to me at least, if you want a green light on Ninja) Smiley.

However, the 'formal' downloads page has the latest update as 11.0.3: https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

Whereas this informal post has it as 11.0.4: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/v0-11-0-darkcoin-core-release.3601/page-34#post-38830

It's a bit confusing.


 drk.mn is a fabulous monitoring tool with great graphical interface. Elberethzone maintains it and every time there is an update, he has to go in a change "everything" to translate DRK's evolution with each iteration. Naturally it's not easy, and does have its quirks, its not as simple as getting the new version and magic happens everything works fine. To be absolutely sure, you have the daemon and query for :1 and all is fine.

 The yellow is given when >=50% of nodes see that nodes as :0.  Probably an induced bug from updating to v.14. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon.
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January 28, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
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Hi,

As a MN owner I read this topic a zillion times a day for updates. I might just post this even once or twice to let you guys know im here as well  Wink

Flare does my Mn for me and am happy with his work.

Point is, i have a Raspberry Pi model B (512ram) hanging around in the corner catching dust atm after a failed attempt to get a media player in the bedroom (worked but not used hehe).

Is it possible to get a distro on the PI, update with the firewall and all whats needed and run the MN myself? Then just hook it up my router and open port 9999 to it  Smiley

My thanks goes to the dev team for all its excellent work in the past and in the future!

EDIT: My activity is now: 2!  Woot Wink

I remember quite some time ago someone asked a similar question. I think that Raspbian cannot cope with the dependancies needed for the daemon to run. But things change, maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in?
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