[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[afreer]

i'm aware we have / are developing our own BaaS (Blockchain as a Service) but i was wondering
if we would benefit from using Microsoft Azure in some way seeing how Bitshares has gone live on Microsoft Azure ?

ref : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1393219.0
  
I'm really just curious if Dash could have benefits there (marketing benefits for example) or are we building something here that doesn't really need Microsoft Azure ?

yes Evolution clients won't need to provision infrastructure like that because they'll use Dash through a decentralized REST service which only requires an HTTP connection.  

[Walter_S]

thanks Walter_S, i appreciate the feedback.

No probs, it's not a massive amount of work and much of the good work that's been done on dashman could probably be utilized to make a 'dash masternode out-of-the-box'.

Azure has literally hundreds of templates, i'm sure if Dash team put the work in and spoke to the right people at Azure there's no reason why we can't do the same. It's hardly exclusive and it looks like most of it is done through github anyway:

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/documentation/templates/

Here's a contribution guide for those who fancy it :

https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/tree/master/1-CONTRIBUTION-GUIDE

Walter

Edit: having done a bit of reading it looks like it's all automated anyway and bots check the template submission against it's rules and guidelines. This is all bitshares and etherium have done from what I understand... I may stand corrected though...?

[TanteStefana2]

Means I can just steal someones votes once I get access to his dash.conf and vote with an empty wallet. Sounds scary if you think for a moment what harm can be done to the project using this method.

How would  you get his dash.conf?

[Taylor05]

Hey guys what are the best VPS prices over the globe?
I am wondering if it would be better if I run the MN through a raspberry pi from home.
I can get a raspberry pi 2 B (I heard the newest model 3 has got overheating issues therefor you should put a dissipator on it) + sd card + charger for something like 65$ from amazon.

I don't know the best VPS price, but you can obtain a host pretty inexpensively. A few dollars per month.

The problem with hosting at home on a Pi is that you probably don't have redundant internet, generators, battery backup, etc. All it takes is the occasional outage to put your masternode at the back of the payment queue, and at about 1.9-2.1 Dash per missed payment, it doesn't take many outages per year to make it worthwhile to host your masternode in a datacenter environment. Plus you avoid the upfront cost of the hardware. $65 will probably get you 1.5 to two years of hosting, plus you avoid outages (which earns you more Dash) that makes the breakeven at least 2-3 years from now. If you are 100% sure you will keep the MN for that long, and that changes to the code will allow you to continue running the MN on that hardware, then might be worth it. Those are a lot of "ifs" and hassles in my opinion for not much of a payoff. I'd recommend hosted solution.

[julian071]

Means I can just steal someones votes once I get access to his dash.conf and vote with an empty wallet. Sounds scary if you think for a moment what harm can be done to the project using this method.

How would  you get his dash.conf?

Still, storing a private key in plain text is just not a good idea. Can't that be stored somewhere else, encrypted with the wallet password? Maybe a usefull update? Keeping voting as safe as possible seems a good enough reason to me.

[TanteStefana2]

Means I can just steal someones votes once I get access to his dash.conf and vote with an empty wallet. Sounds scary if you think for a moment what harm can be done to the project using this method.

How would  you get his dash.conf?

Still, storing a private key in plain text is just not a good idea. Can't that be stored somewhere else, encrypted with the wallet password? Maybe a usefull update? Keeping voting as safe as possible seems a good enough reason to me.

The key we're talking about is the masternodeprivkey which you can generate with masternode genkey command

[stan.distortion]

Means I can just steal someones votes once I get access to his dash.conf and vote with an empty wallet. Sounds scary if you think for a moment what harm can be done to the project using this method.

How would  you get his dash.conf?

Still, storing a private key in plain text is just not a good idea. Can't that be stored somewhere else, encrypted with the wallet password? Maybe a usefull update? Keeping voting as safe as possible seems a good enough reason to me.

Not a bad point, there's no funds at risk from masternode.conf it and it'd be easy enough to keep it encrypted when not needed but it'd be nice to have the client do that for you.

[Riseman]

Means I can just steal someones votes once I get access to his dash.conf and vote with an empty wallet. Sounds scary if you think for a moment what harm can be done to the project using this method.

How would  you get his dash.conf?

Still, storing a private key in plain text is just not a good idea. Can't that be stored somewhere else, encrypted with the wallet password? Maybe a usefull update? Keeping voting as safe as possible seems a good enough reason to me.

Not a bad point, there's no funds at risk from masternode.conf it and it'd be easy enough to keep it encrypted when not needed but it'd be nice to have the client do that for you.

Maybe even configure and start the masternode completely remotely without having to edit the config file and store the key in it.

[julian071]

Means I can just steal someones votes once I get access to his dash.conf and vote with an empty wallet. Sounds scary if you think for a moment what harm can be done to the project using this method.

How would  you get his dash.conf?

Still, storing a private key in plain text is just not a good idea. Can't that be stored somewhere else, encrypted with the wallet password? Maybe a usefull update? Keeping voting as safe as possible seems a good enough reason to me.

The key we're talking about is the masternodeprivkey which you can generate with masternode genkey command

Yes, storing that in plain text in dash.conf is not sound.

Edit: maybe someone could make a 5 DASH proposal to fix that ;+)

[Riseman]

Hey guys what are the best VPS prices over the globe?
I am wondering if it would be better if I run the MN through a raspberry pi from home.
I can get a raspberry pi 2 B (I heard the newest model 3 has got overheating issues therefor you should put a dissipator on it) + sd card + charger for something like 65$ from amazon.

I don't know the best VPS price, but you can obtain a host pretty inexpensively. A few dollars per month.

The problem with hosting at home on a Pi is that you probably don't have redundant internet, generators, battery backup, etc. All it takes is the occasional outage to put your masternode at the back of the payment queue, and at about 1.9-2.1 Dash per missed payment, it doesn't take many outages per year to make it worthwhile to host your masternode in a datacenter environment. Plus you avoid the upfront cost of the hardware. $65 will probably get you 1.5 to two years of hosting, plus you avoid outages (which earns you more Dash) that makes the breakeven at least 2-3 years from now. If you are 100% sure you will keep the MN for that long, and that changes to the code will allow you to continue running the MN on that hardware, then might be worth it. Those are a lot of "ifs" and hassles in my opinion for not much of a payoff. I'd recommend hosted solution.

How's that? Monthly VPS cost is covered by a single MN payment which is $10 now and will hardly fall below $3 soon. Talking about "returning" the collateral, this will happen in about 10 years with current MN count. But as it slowly increases and PoW rewards slowly decrease, it is not likely to ever happen at all.

By the way, one of my VPS had recently had an about 12 hours downtime because of a power outage. But such incidents a very rare.

[Solarminer]

If you click the link it should send you to a registration screen which requests an email and password to register.  

If that link doesn't automatically get you to the registration page, this one should.
https://dashchat.herokuapp.com/

The first does not accept the mail and password I choose and the second one gives me this:

Dash Chat
Failed! token_revoked

Sent you a PM.  Anyone else with issues, just send me your email via a PM.  I'll send you an invite.

Here is a quick update on the 'Unofficial' Dash Chat Slack.

• We now have 68 members with a few people on at all times.
• We have on average 5000 messages per week with half in public channels
• We have reddit(soon whatisdash.org) questions come directly into our help section of slack, and get answered quickly.
• We have tweets from Tao, Tungfa, and others to keep updated on events.
• The new projects with whatisdash.org, dashmasternode.org, DARQ, and any new proposals get a lot of discussion.
• Questions for the DARQ podcast are posted on slack for live podcast on Sundays.(This weeks show will be prerecorded with the owner of CoinGecko)
• Of course we also have random topics and some price discussions.

We fixed the automatic invite problem.   We had to change the slack bot that invites everyone so now our new address to join is:
https://digitalcash.signup.team/

If anyone has questions for the podcast with Bobby Ong (https://www.coingecko.com/en/about) please send today so Buster can get into the interview.

[pjcltd]

Hi guys
I have offering a masternode vps service for these guys here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.0

The cost is this
$1 setup charge per masternode then it's $1.5 per masternode per month

I can setup the masternode so that it's built and synced all ready to go
All you need to  do is setup your  config files etc.
Start th coin deamon and your good to go.


Now I know what you might be thinking why so cheap.
Well good question I'm here to help everyone and yes I do make a bit out of each masternode fees but it's not a lot
Enough to cover server costs etc.

Have a look at the services and the feedback I have received


If your interested and have any questions just ask

Thanks
Paul

[Solarminer]

Hi guys
I have offering a masternode vps service for these guys here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.0

The cost is this
$1 setup charge per masternode then it's $1.5 per masternode per month

I can setup the masternode so that it's built and synced all ready to go
All you need to  do is setup your  config files etc.
Start th coin deamon and your good to go.


Now I know what you might be thinking why so cheap.
Well good question I'm here to help everyone and yes I do make a bit out of each masternode fees but it's not a lot
Enough to cover server costs etc.

Have a look at the services and the feedback I have received


If your interested and have any questions just ask

Thanks
Paul

How much RAM/Bandwidth/disk space are you prepared for?  Dash needs about 500MB/200GB per month/5GB per node.

[pjcltd]

Hi guys
I have offering a masternode vps service for these guys here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.0

The cost is this
$1 setup charge per masternode then it's $1.5 per masternode per month

I can setup the masternode so that it's built and synced all ready to go
All you need to  do is setup your  config files etc.
Start th coin deamon and your good to go.


Now I know what you might be thinking why so cheap.
Well good question I'm here to help everyone and yes I do make a bit out of each masternode fees but it's not a lot
Enough to cover server costs etc.

Have a look at the services and the feedback I have received


If your interested and have any questions just ask

Thanks
Paul

How much RAM/Bandwidth/disk space are you prepared for?  Dash needs about 500MB/200GB per month/5GB per node.

Bugger I knew there was somthing  I missed off

Ok each node will have
1 vcpu
1 GB ram
10gb hdd
And no bandwidth limit set

Thanks
Paul

[splawik21]

Hi guys
I have offering a masternode vps service for these guys here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.0

The cost is this
$1 setup charge per masternode then it's $1.5 per masternode per month

I can setup the masternode so that it's built and synced all ready to go
All you need to  do is setup your  config files etc.
Start th coin deamon and your good to go.


Now I know what you might be thinking why so cheap.
Well good question I'm here to help everyone and yes I do make a bit out of each masternode fees but it's not a lot
Enough to cover server costs etc.

Have a look at the services and the feedback I have received


If your interested and have any questions just ask

Thanks
Paul

How much RAM/Bandwidth/disk space are you prepared for?  Dash needs about 500MB/200GB per month/5GB per node.

With more budget evolved and evolution comming these amounts will double meaby triple....

[gusterdd]

masternode count 3600 !!
incredible

[Riseman]

masternode count 3600 !!
incredible

Don't forget that supply also grows every day.

[Honest Tim]

FWIW....

Just got a mention on the Keiser Report. Vids not uploaded yet but they were talking about a dude's hedge fund biz on the ethereum blockchain and Max was talking about DASH and how the community voted on the block size.

He was V positive about DASH. 

[qwizzie]

FWIW....

Just got a mention on the Keiser Report. Vids not uploaded yet but they were talking about a dude's hedge fund biz on the ethereum blockchain and Max was talking about DASH and how the community voted on the block size.

He was V positive about DASH.  

https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/335333-episode-max-keiser-887/

at 24 minutes

thanks Honest Tim

Once Dash Evolution is all coded, tested and released, Evan should definetely do a Max Keiser interview...

[zirt]

Hi
I am big newbie
I am only interested in long term investment
I bought some Dash and I have them in my dash-qt (OSX) client
I backed up the wallet in a .dat
I was not asked any password...

My computer is safe but still.

Anyway how can I transfer those Dash to a paper wallet (ideally write down the privatekey). The easiest way please.

Thanks!