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May 05, 2014, 01:03:22 AM
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50 BC giveaway  week for best joke http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24qiu8/50_bc_for_best_joke/

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Since we're discussing huge amounts of money with PR gmiks and wall street, I have this (relatively) low-cost idea to tie-up with mobile / social games.

Simple premise: whenever a microtransaction is conducted -- such as ingame "gold" or powerups are bought -- the buyer receives a redemption code for a sum of BC (say 1-10 BC).

To make the illustration easy to grasp, lets call the game "Candy Crush Saga" in mobile / social platform like facebook.

Buyer spends fiat to buy powerups. He receives a redemption code for BC. Redemption code expires after set time (say 48 hrs).

The buyer may or may not redeem this, of course. If he doesn't redeem, the BC amount reverts to source (say, the bcpool or a fund setup for this undertaking).

Now, in order to redeem, he will need to setup a BC wallet (and create his address), and then if he wants to convert that BC to BTC and then onto fiat, he will need to setup an account with exchange.

We all see the obstacles the buyer will have to hurdle in order to convert that BC to fiat. Lots of effort required, right? But consider that therein lies the benefit as well: buyer is introduced to the world of cryptos in general, with a spotlight on BC in particular. He learns about wallets. About exchanges. About the pool (make the guy visit the bcpool website and click thru a couple of pages b4 he reaches the BC redemption page where he can input wallet address and redemption code).

If we want to give BC a better promotional boost, just do a couple of things: [1] tie-up with more game devs; [2] raise the amount of bundled BC.

Next question is: which games?

I propose we aim for the biggest games out there. BC is #9 on list in coinmarketcap. THat's a good reason to tie-up with games also in the top9 of their respective categories.

Next question: how do we convince game devs to accept a tie-up / bundling scheme with their successful product? I did say *candy crush* after all.
To incentivize game devs, we need to pay them. Think of that wall street budget and PR firm retainer the community is already half on its way to spending. Big sums there. My suggestion calls for low-cost -- maybe a $1 contribution to the game devs Per Transaction is all it will take. But first lay down the obvious benefit that their players who buy receives more value coz of the bundled BC. Essentially the bundled BC is a *rebate* given to their buyers. I can already well imagine how the devs will respond:
[1] No, i dont think *insert game here* is a right match for ur BC bundling idea; but,
[2] i have this new game coming out / moderately popular game already released that can benefit from the promo, it would be mutualy beneficial for us to try that out first. Give it a go, then see where we can go from there.

IMO not a bad *compromise*

Just throwing ideas to chew on. Flame if u must, but make an effort to fine-tune the idea if u can. Peace! =)




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May 05, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
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Since we're discussing huge amounts of money with PR gmiks and wall street, I have this (relatively) low-cost idea to tie-up with mobile / social games.

Simple premise: whenever a microtransaction is conducted -- such as ingame "gold" or powerups are bought -- the buyer receives a redemption code for a sum of BC (say 1-10 BC).

To make the illustration easy to grasp, lets call the game "Candy Crush Saga" in mobile / social platform like facebook.

Buyer spends fiat to buy powerups. He receives a redemption code for BC. Redemption code expires after set time (say 48 hrs).

The buyer may or may not redeem this, of course. If he doesn't redeem, the BC amount reverts to source (say, the bcpool or a fund setup for this undertaking).

Now, in order to redeem, he will need to setup a BC wallet (and create his address), and then if he wants to convert that BC to BTC and then onto fiat, he will need to setup an account with exchange.

We all see the obstacles the buyer will have to hurdle in order to convert that BC to fiat. Lots of effort required, right? But consider that therein lies the benefit as well: buyer is introduced to the world of cryptos in general, with a spotlight on BC in particular. He learns about wallets. About exchanges. About the pool (make the guy visit the bcpool website and click thru a couple of pages b4 he reaches the BC redemption page where he can input wallet address and redemption code).

If we want to give BC a better promotional boost, just do a couple of things: [1] tie-up with more game devs; [2] raise the amount of bundled BC.

Next question is: which games?

I propose we aim for the biggest games out there. BC is #9 on list in coinmarketcap. THat's a good reason to tie-up with games also in the top9 of their respective categories.

Next question: how do we convince game devs to accept a tie-up / bundling scheme with their successful product? I did say *candy crush* after all.
To incentivize game devs, we need to pay them. Think of that wall street budget and PR firm retainer the community is already half on its way to spending. Big sums there. My suggestion calls for low-cost -- maybe a $1 contribution to the game devs Per Transaction is all it will take. But first lay down the obvious benefit that their players who buy receives more value coz of the bundled BC. Essentially the bundled BC is a *rebate* given to their buyers. I can already well imagine how the devs will respond:
[1] No, i dont think *insert game here* is a right match for ur BC bundling idea; but,
[2] i have this new game coming out / moderately popular game already released that can benefit from the promo, it would be mutualy beneficial for us to try that out first. Give it a go, then see where we can go from there.

IMO not a bad *compromise*

Just throwing ideas to chew on. Flame if u must, but make an effort to fine-tune the idea if u can. Peace! =)






Hey mate, this actually could go somewhere... Why not post this idea on the reddit page and blackcointalk page as well, more visibility with the project means more opinions to gauge the works Smiley

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http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

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http://blackcointalk.com/index.php/board,5.0.html
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Hi, thanks for the kind words. I'll do as u say Smiley
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May 05, 2014, 03:29:02 AM
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New community milestone : CryptoAlts has hit its 100,000th BC paid out tonight!  Grin
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May 05, 2014, 03:49:49 AM
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f@ck WC and that slimey leader calling the shots! im increasing my stake in BC like I should have at the start! anyways Hope i find a home here Smiley even if i did bash a few BC members during the wc/bc fud attacks! my apologies. anyways looks like i got a lot of reading todo :/ haha
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May 05, 2014, 04:15:40 AM
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New BlackCoin Markets!


BC/BTC https://usecryptos.com/market/BC-BTC
BC/LTC https://usecryptos.com/market/BC-LTC
DOGE/BC https://usecryptos.com/market/DOGE-BC
DRK/BC https://usecryptos.com/market/DRK-BC
ECC/BC https://usecryptos.com/market/ECC-BC
PRT/BC https://usecryptos.com/market/PRT-BC

Yes! BlackCoin as base coin!


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May 05, 2014, 04:43:13 AM
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f@ck WC and that slimey leader calling the shots! im increasing my stake in BC like I should have at the start! anyways Hope i find a home here Smiley even if i did bash a few BC members during the wc/bc fud attacks! my apologies. anyways looks like i got a lot of reading todo :/ haha

All good my friend, past events are just that. Let's put aside whatever spite we have, and create an ongoing community with continual progress in project development and creation Smiley

Help out or contribute towards discussions and project planning

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http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

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http://blackcointalk.com/index.php/board,5.0.html

you are very most welcome to create your own thread to discuss your own projects or ideas Smiley

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May 05, 2014, 04:48:36 AM
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Great addition to the list my friend!

I hope you also post this exciting news in our reddit and blackcointalk pages as well Smiley

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

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http://blackcointalk.com/index.php

Cheers mate Smiley
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May 05, 2014, 04:50:53 AM
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fixed http://coinia.net/blackcoin/getbalance.php?top=100

QORA | 2ND GEN | NEW SOURCE CODE | QTz6fSV2VNc2wjwwsw57kwQzgQhmGw5idQ
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May 05, 2014, 05:27:51 AM
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Hello BlackCoin Community
 
As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
 
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
 
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
 
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
 
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
 
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
 
The Plan
 
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
 
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q    
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV    
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR  
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1    
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
 
Paypal: Donate with Paypal

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BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street

This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.

I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!

So what is the big idea?

We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.

Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.

1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.

2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.

3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.

4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished,  everything is in place for the main event.

What will the main event accomplish?

This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.

a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!

b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.

c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.

What is needed to make this a success?

Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc

Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.


Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.

Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!

This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the  "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.

To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and  I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.

Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.


Donation addresses:

BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT

I want to thank everyone who has contributed and every donation helps!!!

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Thanks for pointing that out, I believe that some of the community does not know about this,
Also post in reddit and blackcointalk

http://blackcointalk.com/index.php

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

Cheers mate Smiley

Sadly I was not there in the top 100 hahah!
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Hello BlackCoin Community
 
As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
 
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
 
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
 
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
 
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
 
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
 
The Plan
 
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
 
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q    
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV    
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR  
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1    
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
 
Paypal: Donate with Paypal

Be the change you want to see in the world.



BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street

This is an outline of what my wife and I have been planning for a few weeks. Please take a few minutes to read.

I have been promising something big in May, and today I have decided to present my project to the community so together we can make it a reality! My wife and I have been working on this project behind the scenes, and it has never been done before in crypto. We want BlackCoin to be the first Cypto Currency to pull it off!

So what is the big idea?

We want to hire 50 attractive women dressed in BlackCoin T-Shirts, and for 2 hours these women will converge on Wall Street and hand out Wall Street Edition BlackCoin cards and sell sheets describing BlackCoin.

Everything I have asked this community to do has lead us to this moment and now it is time to explain my master plan.

1. I rallied this community together to fund the press release projects so we can introduce the BlackCoin brand to mainstream media outlets, and at the same time learn how to focus our energy towards a single objective.

2. I created the BlackCoin card because I knew in the future we needed something "physical" to allow people to touch and feel. It is hard to get people to believe in something that only exists virtually. The cards are loaded with software that will make it easy to buy, manage, and trade BlackCoins.

3. I rallied this community to contact strategic companies like Vault Of Satoshi because I knew for us to succeed we needed a direct Fiat to BC service here in North America.

4. Now that step 1 -3 has been accomplished,  everything is in place for the main event.

What will the main event accomplish?

This plan is to kill 3 birds with one stone.

a. The cards and sell sheets will introduce new investors to BC. Although Wall Street is the location we do not care if "whales" on Wall Street invests in BC or not. Wall Street is just the backdrop. We want BC to be associated with wealth!

b. We will attract the attention of mainstream media. Not everyday 50 beautiful women dressed alike converge on Wall Street. The event will be covered by local and international media outlets. My wife will be calling media outlets the day before and during the event.

c. We will be making crypto history and we will show the rest of the crypto community how determined we are to make BlackCoin #1.

What is needed to make this a success?

Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc

Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.


Note: I am not profiting off the cards we get made for this event, these will be community made cards at the wholesale factory price. I set 1000 cards as the minimum, but if we can raise more than $9540 I will get as many cards made as the donations allow.

Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!

This community has wanted something huge and I strongly believe this is what we need. Our recent partnerships with various companies have been great to make BC stronger, but it has done very little to get the  "BlackCoin brand out to the mainstream. We can have all the partnerships in the world, but if no one knows about us then partnerships mean very little. I think this event will give us the most ROI, and this will be the tipping point for BlackCoin.

To make this happen we need to raise the money by May 17th, and my wife and  I would like to do the event either the 29th or the 30th of May. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and all comments and suggestions are welcome since it will take this entire community to make this happen.

Below is the donation addresses (Please make sure you use the addresses from this original post or my signature only. Previously scammers have attempted to replace donation addresses with their own addresses when replying to the post.


Donation addresses:

BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT

I want to thank everyone who has contributed and every donation helps!!!


Hey mate, there are more than just 2 of these projects set up in reddit and blackcointalk and more being discussed everyday! Join the brainstorming and activity

here
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

and

here
http://blackcointalk.com/index.php
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The conflict of interest is that, you (and the others) being board members of the proposed "Foundation" and therefore privy to inside information of all kinds, would of course have a serious conflict of interest since you are invested in the coin and could (would) act on that information to either buy or sell the coins with an unfair advantage. I am pretty sure you are aware of the laws that prevent such things to happen -or are designed to- in the real world, so surely you also see that inevitable conflict of interests, don't you?

Thanks in advance for addressing the matter.

It's possible. I can't discredit the notion. But the foundation itself started as a group of investors who pledged to each other that they would hold and build a better coin. It's sort of like going to reddit.com/r/bitcoin and calling it inside information. It's really just a bunch of excited people trying to promote an idea.. The only inside information we have is that we are trying really hard to make our holdings worth more.

That's about the only way I could address that. I mean if you think it out there aren't that many examples of things we could take advantage of. Unless we were actively trying to pump and dump the coin and manipulate prices, but if this was another pump and dump group we certainly wouldn't be paying for a PR firm, or addressing community concerns... I can't convince you to trust us, only our actions can..

I hope this helps.

I though we were trying to be clear and honest. And nice. No, sorry the analogy is very poor. I have gone some lengths to explain to you what an insider is and what are the legal limitations imposed on them. I will further point out the really stern discipline measures the SEC -and even the FBI- dispenses to those who violate those laws. This is a coin worth $0.13 but, in the future we all hope it will be worth much more. But even right now, you already are in possession of privileged information that only that group knows about- i.e. the name of the PR Company-, that could mean an important push of the coin's price when made public, so why wouldn't you, your friends and families, as well as those of the rest of your group, buy cheap and dump what you bought, at or near the top of the range once the news hit the street? There are no laws in crypto that would punish such actions so, why wouldn't you and or your co-foundation buddies do it? Today, for instance, I have read Arigard brag about his trading on IRC, so I imagine he is quite the active trader and maybe in sizable amounts. He is also in this foundation of yours, isn't he?

It isn't a matter of trust, unfortunately. Not even a matter of trust... but verify. It is, in fact, a matter of there not being a need at all for a controlling foundation and one being rammed down every investor's throat, which is quite a different matter. Nobody, but those 15-20, will benefit from the existence of the foundation (if you guys want some actions, you could just the same present them and even sponsor them is you feel strongly enough about them... including the notion of the PR firm hiring). So, once again, why a foundation for a coin that is doing very well indeed without one and that is only 2 months old.

Lets forget about being disingenuous, shall we? This is clearly a political land grab to ensure the control and centralization of BlackCoin. Nothing else.

And very well could prove to be it's undoing.
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The conflict of interest is that, you (and the others) being board members of the proposed "Foundation" and therefore privy to inside information of all kinds, would of course have a serious conflict of interest since you are invested in the coin and could (would) act on that information to either buy or sell the coins with an unfair advantage. I am pretty sure you are aware of the laws that prevent such things to happen -or are designed to- in the real world, so surely you also see that inevitable conflict of interests, don't you?

Thanks in advance for addressing the matter.

It's possible. I can't discredit the notion. But the foundation itself started as a group of investors who pledged to each other that they would hold and build a better coin. It's sort of like going to reddit.com/r/bitcoin and calling it inside information. It's really just a bunch of excited people trying to promote an idea.. The only inside information we have is that we are trying really hard to make our holdings worth more.

That's about the only way I could address that. I mean if you think it out there aren't that many examples of things we could take advantage of. Unless we were actively trying to pump and dump the coin and manipulate prices, but if this was another pump and dump group we certainly wouldn't be paying for a PR firm, or addressing community concerns... I can't convince you to trust us, only our actions can..

I hope this helps.

I though we were trying to be clear and honest. And nice. No, sorry the analogy is very poor. I have gone some lengths to explain to you what an insider is and what are the legal limitations imposed on them. I will further point out the really stern discipline measures the SEC -and even the FBI- dispenses to those who violate those laws. This is a coin worth $0.13 but, in the future we all hope it will be worth much more. But even right now, you already are in possession of privileged information that only that group knows about- i.e. the name of the PR Company-, that could mean an important push of the coin's price when made public, so why wouldn't you, your friends and families, as well as those of the rest of your group, buy cheap and dump what you bought, at or near the top of the range once the news hit the street? There are no laws in crypto that would punish such actions so, why wouldn't you and or your co-foundation buddies do it? Today, for instance, I have read Arigard brag about his trading on IRC, so I imagine he is quite the active trader and maybe in sizable amounts. He is also in this foundation of yours, isn't he?

It isn't a matter of trust, unfortunately. Not even a matter of trust... but verify. It is, in fact, a matter of there not being a need at all for a controlling foundation and one being rammed down every investor's throat, which is quite a different matter. Nobody, but those 15-20, will benefit from the existence of the foundation (if you guys want some actions, you could just the same present them and even sponsor them is you feel strongly enough about them... including the notion of the PR firm hiring). So, once again, why a foundation for a coin that is doing very well indeed without one and that is only 2 months old.

Lets forget about being disingenuous, shall we? This is clearly a political land grab to ensure the control and centralization of BlackCoin. Nothing else.

And very well could prove to be it's undoing.


Hmm, barabbas,
can you tell me 10 Altcoins with the transparency you're mentioning here?

TBH, I don't think Crypto is already mature enough for that all you want, at least the altcoin scene isn't.

Lets hope it will become that mature to get accepted by everyone, but for now I think there is a long way to go.

NEM/XEM!!!
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There is no such thing as absolute central control of Blackcoin.  By its very definition it is a peer to peer, proof of stake, cryptocurrency.  If enough people wanted to go in a different direction they could take control of the code and call for a hard fork.  If they get a majority of the stake coins they would control the coin.  There is nothing any quasi official or semi official group can do.

There can be 1 foundation or 10 and it doesn't matter.  People are free to do as they will.  If you don't like the foundation then make another one.  It really doesn't matter.

I like the current foundation and I also think Iconic should make his own.  Both can exist and do whatever the hell they want.  If someone thinks they are doing dumb things then dont donate.  But please just go do something or go watch a movie.

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
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New community milestone : CryptoAlts has hit its 100,000th BC paid out tonight!  Grin

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Congrats blade87, and cryptoalts miners!!!

Good news indeed!
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New community milestone : CryptoAlts has hit its 100,000th BC paid out tonight!  Grin

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Congrats blade87, and cryptoalts miners!!!

Good news indeed!

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New community milestone : CryptoAlts has hit its 100,000th BC paid out tonight!  Grin


Good job blade87
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There is no such thing as absolute central control of Blackcoin.  By its very definition it is a peer to peer, proof of stake, cryptocurrency.  If enough people wanted to go in a different direction they could take control of the code and call for a hard fork.  If they get a majority of the stake coins they would control the coin.  There is nothing any quasi official or semi official group can do.

There can be 1 foundation or 10 and it doesn't matter.  People are free to do as they will.  If you don't like the foundation then make another one.  It really doesn't matter.

I like the current foundation and I also think Iconic should make his own.  Both can exist and do whatever the hell they want.  If someone thinks they are doing dumb things then dont donate.  But please just go do something or go watch a movie.

Judge Neil / Judge Crypto

I am not interested in forming a second "Foundation", I do not think a Foundation is necessary. What I am interested in doing is empowering the community to make crucial decisions. This community was able to accomplish some incredible things in such a short time span, and that was without the Foundation. I have always said the success or failure of BC will rest on this community. If this community is not inspired or motivated the coin will just eventually die.

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