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November 14, 2022, 08:27:43 PM
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If Pakistan team had a few more good batsmen then they would have won almost every match very well. Pakistan has excellent batsmen like Mohammad Rizwan and Babar Azam if they play well then they have hope to win that match and if these two batsmen play badly.  They lost that match. Like them, if all the batsmen of Pakistan had performed well, they could have gone a long way.
There's definitely something wrong with that middle order. The Pakistani middle orders remain an area of concern, as they have rarely performed well during these days. This combination will not allow you to win against those higher tier teams. Fix your middle order problem or more disappointment is just around the corner.
There was a lot of discussion about Pakistan's middle order since the last Asia Cup. Almost everyone in the cricketing world knew that if Pakistan's top order failed, the middle order would not make the match better they will not be able to reach the match to the desired level. Moreover, in several matches, Pakistan reached their target by batting with top order.
I know Pakistan has best opening pair Baber and Rizwan and they perform well but just like everyone say Pakistan middle order is nothing or middle order failed everytime it's totally wrong because in this 2022 world cup the match against India the performer was middle order batter iftikhar as well as the match between Pakistan vs southAfrica the performer from Pakistan side was shadab and iftikhar which is middle order batsman too. It's mean most of time middle didn't perform but in crutial matches they did
But babar and rizwan almost failed last night - especially Rizwan
Have he performed a little better things would have been different they almost lost all their wickets and failed to do big score.

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November 14, 2022, 08:39:19 PM
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I know Pakistan has best opening pair Baber and Rizwan and they perform well but just like everyone say Pakistan middle order is nothing or middle order failed everytime it's totally wrong because in this 2022 world cup the match against India the performer was middle order batter iftikhar as well as the match between Pakistan vs southAfrica the performer from Pakistan side was shadab and iftikhar which is middle order batsman too. It's mean most of time middle didn't perform but in crutial matches they did
one thing we must give credit to Pakistni team and fans - they brought so much colour and noise to the game
indian and Paksitani fans are so crazy about cricket and they have proved it.

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November 14, 2022, 08:55:18 PM
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I honestly cannot say it was a close game. I have to disagree with you on this one. Pakistan knew what England had done very recently to India and there was no way they could have thought that this target was going to be enough. Shaheen Shah Afridi not being available was obviously not good for Pakistan, but I still think that Pakistan was at least 20 runs short of where they should have been.

If we analyze the match, there was no point in the match where we can see Pakistan looking to dominate the match. Yes, they tried to be on the top of England's team but never succeeded. England was always ahead in the game.

There were two occasions when Pakistan was looking slightly better than England, but those two occasions does not last long. Pakistan scored 16th runs in the 11th over and at that moment it seems that they gained momentum but the very next over Babar Azam was gone and the over was a maiden, so that advantage was gone. The second turning point was that Shaheen had to leave the field and Iftikhar had to complete the over and he was hit for 4 and a 6 in that over, making the run chase in the favor of England.

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November 14, 2022, 09:05:22 PM
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I know Pakistan has best opening pair Baber and Rizwan and they perform well but just like everyone say Pakistan middle order is nothing or middle order failed everytime it's totally wrong because in this 2022 world cup the match against India the performer was middle order batter iftikhar as well as the match between Pakistan vs southAfrica the performer from Pakistan side was shadab and iftikhar which is middle order batsman too. It's mean most of time middle didn't perform but in crutial matches they did
I have always said that Pakistan's opening batsmen have put more pressure on the team in this World Cup. Babar and Rezwan are definitely Pakistan's best opening batsmen but their slow batting in the World Cup this time will raise questions about their effectiveness. Because they cannot give a good start to Pakistan in almost every match. The performance of Pakistan's middle order was the best in some matches and managed to get them a respectable score.

I don't think Babar Azam and Mohammad Rezwan have performed well in this World Cup.



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I would say Pakistan lost because of bad batting. The performance of Pakistan's bowlers was quite good. Pakistan's batting performance mainly depends on these two players. The performance of these two players was excellent before the World Cup. They continued to perform consistently well. But they failed to perform well in the World Cup. However, they managed to qualify for the finals due to the excellent performance of the middle order and bowlers. However, they did not have a worthy team or a worthy performance to become champions.

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I would say Pakistan lost because of bad batting. The performance of Pakistan's bowlers was quite good. Pakistan's batting performance mainly depends on these two players. The performance of these two players was excellent before the World Cup. They continued to perform consistently well. But they failed to perform well in the World Cup. However, they managed to qualify for the finals due to the excellent performance of the middle order and bowlers. However, they did not have a worthy team or a worthy performance to become champions.
you nailed it - Pakistan was in the final because Netherland won their match and it helped Pakistan come to the final.
But Pakistan tried their best - but as compared to England they were a weak team . .  they need to be more consistent to win the champions title - Congratulation to England ofcourse

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I would say Pakistan lost because of bad batting. The performance of Pakistan's bowlers was quite good. Pakistan's batting performance mainly depends on these two players. The performance of these two players was excellent before the World Cup. They continued to perform consistently well. But they failed to perform well in the World Cup. However, they managed to qualify for the finals due to the excellent performance of the middle order and bowlers. However, they did not have a worthy team or a worthy performance to become champions.
i would like to add one point here - that is Pakistan has added so much colour to the tourtmant - the fans gave so much love to their teams - we saw so much emotions in the ground. Which we hardly found  for other teams. I hope you will agree with me.
There was another thing which I have noticed many India fans were also in the ground. One of the India was supporting Pakistan . that was so amazing

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November 15, 2022, 02:17:56 AM
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i would like to add one point here - that is Pakistan has added so much colour to the tourtmant - the fans gave so much love to their teams - we saw so much emotions in the ground. Which we hardly found  for other teams. I hope you will agree with me.
There was another thing which I have noticed many India fans were also in the ground. One of the India was supporting Pakistan . that was so amazing

If I am not wrong, the attendance was more than 80,000. Considering the average ticket prices, it should have brought somewhere around $10 million in gate collections alone. And a majority of the attendees were from the subcontinent. Either they travelled to Australia solely for this event, or they were already in Australia for some other reason. But the record attendance was not something that I expected, given the fact that the tournament was being hosted by a non-subcontinental nation. Anyway, future looks bright for cricket.

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November 15, 2022, 02:40:01 AM
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I would say Pakistan lost because of bad batting. The performance of Pakistan's bowlers was quite good. Pakistan's batting performance mainly depends on these two players. The performance of these two players was excellent before the World Cup. They continued to perform consistently well. But they failed to perform well in the World Cup. However, they managed to qualify for the finals due to the excellent performance of the middle order and bowlers. However, they did not have a worthy team or a worthy performance to become champions.
i would like to add one point here - that is Pakistan has added so much colour to the tourtmant - the fans gave so much love to their teams - we saw so much emotions in the ground. Which we hardly found  for other teams. I hope you will agree with me.
There was another thing which I have noticed many India fans were also in the ground. One of the India was supporting Pakistan . that was so amazing
Pakistan fans were more in this match. But compared to the amount of fans in Pakistan, they can't play very well. Big disappointment for Pakistan, they didn't win the world cup. That's why I think it's the pain of their team players. Pakistan is so good.  Regardless of batting Pakistan is completely dependent on 2 batting.

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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

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November 15, 2022, 03:40:16 AM
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I would say Pakistan lost because of bad batting. The performance of Pakistan's bowlers was quite good. Pakistan's batting performance mainly depends on these two players. The performance of these two players was excellent before the World Cup. They continued to perform consistently well. But they failed to perform well in the World Cup. However, they managed to qualify for the finals due to the excellent performance of the middle order and bowlers. However, they did not have a worthy team or a worthy performance to become champions.
you nailed it - Pakistan was in the final because Netherland won their match and it helped Pakistan come to the final.
But Pakistan tried their best - but as compared to England they were a weak team . .  they need to be more consistent to win the champions title - Congratulation to England course

oops I don't know where you were when Pakistan was playing this championship I know that Top order didn't played well but Pakistan played well and that's natural in some matches you play really well and in some, you don't (Individually)

I don't see any other tea standing against Pakistan and we better know how strong England is as we played a 7match series with them before the championship. England played well that's true and they won. Pakistan did not play well is not at all acceptable. I think Pakistan almost grabbed the match 138 in total and England was trapped but unfortunately, Shaheen Afridi injury and Iftkhars over on the same time changed the route.



Rest of the championship Pakistan played really good cricket let me explain how PAK vs IND, Pakistan lost just because of the No ball which was the wrong decision by an umpire may be may not be but on that time No ball attitude on the kohlis call was a bad move he should have gone for the 3rd umpire. 
India struggled then IND vs South Africa India lost, then India vs BAN you better know PAK vs South Africa Pakistan won PAK vs ZIM that was a bad one so bro Pakistan really played very very well in Group2 India played a weak side against top teams and struggled. On the Finals we did played a very good match but luck by no side we lost. 

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November 15, 2022, 03:50:10 AM
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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.

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November 15, 2022, 04:54:12 AM
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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.
Your idea is quite reasonable. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should retire from the T20 format. There are a lot of new talented players who also have a lot of potential. If India is to do well in the T20 format, changes are essential in these two places. Hardik Pandya is supporting the current team is really appreciable. In the World Cup semi-final, India's collection was likely to be even lower but from that position, Hardik Pandya managed to steer the team into a reliable position. Although they lost that match drastically but Hardik Pandya plays the highest role in various disasters. He deserves to lead Indian T20 cricket.

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November 15, 2022, 10:11:18 AM
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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.
Your idea is quite reasonable. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should retire from the T20 format. There are a lot of new talented players who also have a lot of potential. If India is to do well in the T20 format, changes are essential in these two places. Hardik Pandya is supporting the current team is really appreciable. In the World Cup semi-final, India's collection was likely to be even lower but from that position, Hardik Pandya managed to steer the team into a reliable position. Although they lost that match drastically but Hardik Pandya plays the highest role in various disasters. He deserves to lead Indian T20 cricket.

@GigaBit not just the player but team India needs to have a dedicated coach for the T20 format, because I feel that the current coach can’t help them win T20 World Cup. Furthermore they need more depth in bowling and senior player’s should make way for younger player’s, and if they fail to do this then next year too they won’t win the T20 World Cup again.
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November 15, 2022, 11:46:02 AM
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i would like to add one point here - that is Pakistan has added so much colour to the tourtmant - the fans gave so much love to their teams - we saw so much emotions in the ground. Which we hardly found  for other teams. I hope you will agree with me.
There was another thing which I have noticed many India fans were also in the ground. One of the India was supporting Pakistan . that was so amazing

If I am not wrong, the attendance was more than 80,000. Considering the average ticket prices, it should have brought somewhere around $10 million in gate collections alone. And a majority of the attendees were from the subcontinent. Either they travelled to Australia solely for this event, or they were already in Australia for some other reason. But the record attendance was not something that I expected, given the fact that the tournament was being hosted by a non-subcontinental nation. Anyway, future looks bright for cricket.
Indian and Pakistanis are crazy cricket fans and that's why in their matches alot of people attend the matches ,if I am not wrong 80,000 something people came to watch Pakistan 🆚 India match. But obviously cricket is everyone's favourite sport and people follow cricket teams passionately.
Yes I have noticed too that in final on Sunday 80,000 people came watch the match ( that is a good number but not over the top).

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November 15, 2022, 12:58:05 PM
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Women's Big Bash League

Two matches were held today in the Women's Big Bash league. Melbourne Stars played against Hobart Hurricanes in the first match. This match was enjoyable. Hobart Hurricanes managed to set a target of 131 runs. Alice Capsey's excellent performance led to Melbourne's easy win today. He scored 80 runs off just 52 balls and was unbeaten. I would say he single-handedly gave Melbourne the win today.

Melbourne Renegades won the second match against Sydney Thunder. The target of only 96 runs was given by the players of Sydney. It is almost impossible to win in the T20 format with the such a low target. And Melbourne Renegades won in just 14.2 overs. They collected 98 runs losing only 2 wickets.

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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.
Your idea is quite reasonable. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should retire from the T20 format. There are a lot of new talented players who also have a lot of potential. If India is to do well in the T20 format, changes are essential in these two places. Hardik Pandya is supporting the current team is really appreciable. In the World Cup semi-final, India's collection was likely to be even lower but from that position, Hardik Pandya managed to steer the team into a reliable position. Although they lost that match drastically but Hardik Pandya plays the highest role in various disasters. He deserves to lead Indian T20 cricket.

@GigaBit not just the player but team India needs to have a dedicated coach for the T20 format, because I feel that the current coach can’t help them win T20 World Cup. Furthermore they need more depth in bowling and senior player’s should make way for younger player’s, and if they fail to do this then next year too they won’t win the T20 World Cup again.
At the moment for the upcoming tournament BCCI has opted for Laxman as a temporary coach. I think they are on the testing him for this tournament and if the team performs well they might ask him to be a full time coach for T20 format. The good part here is that BCCI is in overhaul mode and that is a good indication.

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November 15, 2022, 01:54:10 PM
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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.
Your idea is quite reasonable. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should retire from the T20 format. There are a lot of new talented players who also have a lot of potential. If India is to do well in the T20 format, changes are essential in these two places. Hardik Pandya is supporting the current team is really appreciable. In the World Cup semi-final, India's collection was likely to be even lower but from that position, Hardik Pandya managed to steer the team into a reliable position. Although they lost that match drastically but Hardik Pandya plays the highest role in various disasters. He deserves to lead Indian T20 cricket.
I do not understand why Virat Kohli's name is mentioned here !
Look at the ICC t20 2022 stats Virat kohli stand at top for most run with 98+average run in only 6 match. But yes it is true that he getting aged but his fitness and performance is still good enough that I think as long as he maintains this performance he doesn't need to retire.


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November 15, 2022, 02:22:02 PM
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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.
Your idea is quite reasonable. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should retire from the T20 format. There are a lot of new talented players who also have a lot of potential. If India is to do well in the T20 format, changes are essential in these two places. Hardik Pandya is supporting the current team is really appreciable. In the World Cup semi-final, India's collection was likely to be even lower but from that position, Hardik Pandya managed to steer the team into a reliable position. Although they lost that match drastically but Hardik Pandya plays the highest role in various disasters. He deserves to lead Indian T20 cricket.
I do not understand why Virat Kohli's name is mentioned here !
Look at the ICC t20 2022 stats Virat kohli stand at top for most run with 98+average run in only 6 match. But yes it is true that he getting aged but his fitness and performance is still good enough that I think as long as he maintains this performance he doesn't need to retire.


Virat Kohli is still playing well as a player but in some matches he plays really bad. Virat Kohli is playing well as per his age of 34 now. But sometimes I think he can't do any better because of his style of playing.  But I have seen that on a day when Virat Kohli plays well, the Indian team has a lot of hope to win.

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November 15, 2022, 02:28:17 PM
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Starting 18th of this month India will play against Newzealand in Newzealand. Both countries were out of the T20WC in the semifinals. Hardik Pandya has been given the responsibility to captain this team. If everything goes well then he might retain his captaincy till the next T20WC. A lot of young talents who missed out this year world cup have been given an opportunity in this team. Most probably some of them will go on to play in the next T20WC which is scheduled to be held next year.

Hardik Pandya is a good choice as the T20I captain. But there should be a complete revamp of the squad. Issues always arise when the same players are involved in multiple formats. IMO, senior players such as Rohit and Virat should rather concentrate on the test format. T20 is more suitable for the younger players, such as Rishabh, Shreyas, Ishan and Arshdeep. Another major development is that VVS Laxman will take over the coaching duties from Rahul Dravid. I don't know how it will work out for the Indian team.
Your idea is quite reasonable. Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli should retire from the T20 format. There are a lot of new talented players who also have a lot of potential. If India is to do well in the T20 format, changes are essential in these two places. Hardik Pandya is supporting the current team is really appreciable. In the World Cup semi-final, India's collection was likely to be even lower but from that position, Hardik Pandya managed to steer the team into a reliable position. Although they lost that match drastically but Hardik Pandya plays the highest role in various disasters. He deserves to lead Indian T20 cricket.

@GigaBit not just the player but team India needs to have a dedicated coach for the T20 format, because I feel that the current coach can’t help them win T20 World Cup. Furthermore they need more depth in bowling and senior player’s should make way for younger player’s, and if they fail to do this then next year too they won’t win the T20 World Cup again.
At the moment for the upcoming tournament BCCI has opted for Laxman as a temporary coach. I think they are on the testing him for this tournament and if the team performs well they might ask him to be a full time coach for T20 format. The good part here is that BCCI is in overhaul mode and that is a good indication.
I noticed in the last semi-final match that India was playing with a trend from the beginning that seemed they might be playing a test match. I did not consider their batting was good as T20 format. If Hardik Pandya could not do well in that particular match then that would have been easily noticed to everyone. He collected 63 runs from 33 balls. The score of the match is 168 with the loss of only 6 wickets. I think the Indian coach has failed completely in this situation. So along with some players BCCI should focus to appoint new coach.

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November 15, 2022, 02:43:16 PM
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Virat Kohli is still playing well as a player but in some matches he plays really bad. Virat Kohli is playing well as per his age of 34 now. But sometimes I think he can't do any better because of his style of playing.  But I have seen that on a day when Virat Kohli plays well, the Indian team has a lot of hope to win.
I will also not disagree with you because it's true that before the Asia cup he wasn't in good form but he is back on his form through the Asia cup so after that time till now I don't see any lack on his performance. But it is true that at a time he will have to retire.  But I think since he is still giving good performances I think it will be good for India to keep him in the team.

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