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Here is the results, not many surprises Source: Wiki Makhachev vs Volkanovski was the fight of the ages as 2 of the worlds best pound for pound fighters. Respect for Volkanovski for the cardio and the attempts at the end to skew the points in his favor but it just wasnt enough. Was a clinical fight from Makhachev and he had more critical strikes landed as well. Really good striking and good grappling just didn't give many opportunities for Volkanovski to get going. It was the biggest test for Makhachev as of yet and it did make him look human for once. Would be interesting to see who he gets to fight next.
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Take a bow Volk. Islamd might have won on the score cards, but Volk won in every fans heart. What a performance from him, and could've easily taken it if he just did more output. You can see that the threat of a takedown was constantly on his mind, despite being able to get up, and the way he finished that fight, was brilliant. A real statement for a rematch. Islam probably finds most of the division easy to beat, Oliveria is a good fighter, but leaves himself too open, and I think he'll always struggle against Islam for that. However, Volk is sound defensively, and shouldn't be as shy in the punches he throws next time. Since, Volk was also trying to take Islam down at points. Crazy fight, and a decent night of fights. My betting slip we aren't going to talk about though, as predicted by tokeweed I lost in the first fight .
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Islams Makhachev face shows who is the real winner in their fight. Why we havent seen famous Dagestani wrestling and full dominance in this fight? I striker from different weight class gave a champion a nice beating and could have won this fight in fifth round. Some might say that Alex Volkanovski survived all ground games by luck, but why Islam Makhachev did not finish him, but instead did more striking? Maybe coz wrestling did not work against Alex and Islam had to switch to striking (and get his face beaten).
A little guy (Islam had more reach advantage) move to other territory, switched off other guys best weapon (wrestling), smashed his face and lost. How can UFC judges be objective after that?
Surely there is no denying that Alex Volkanovski has contested Islam Makhachev's wrestling and he defended all of Makhachev's Submission attempts actually Islam Makhachev was really surprised about how Alexander Volkanovski knows what he is doing and he surely said that this is a good experience for him, but we can't deny aswell that Islam Makhachev have surprise Alex Volkanovski with his striking and standing performance, I guess both of them was truly surprised by each other's technique because they didn't know that each fighter would be dominating their own technique, Surely this is worth the rematch and for me now both fighters have respect for one another for Volkanovski on Makhachev's standing-up, and for Makhachev on Volkanovski's wrestling defense and takedown defense, But still, he won and Volk has nothing to say but to congratulate him on the result earlier. That was really a clear war right there, when you put two real champions inside the cage, you will always have that kind of close match up and that was really close and it was really hard to be a judge of that fight and I'm sure his next potential opponents will gonna review this fight and they will gonna learn a lot about Makachev's weaknesses that they will need to in order to have a high chance to beat him.
This has truly exposed Islam Makhachev's wrestling technique, and surely Charles Oliveira is also watching this pretty much Volkanovski has truly shown what he is capable of and that he has knowledge about wrestling, but sure enough, Islam Makhachev has dominated the stand-up aswell so I think Alexander Volkanovski would need to take that to consideration aswell, not just his wrestling because he surely trained a lot with the wrestling department but have lacked in the stand-up department for this fight,
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Surely there is no denying that Alex Volkanovski has contested Islam Makhachev's wrestling and he defended all of Makhachev's Submission attempts actually Islam Makhachev was really surprised about how Alexander Volkanovski knows what he is doing and he surely said that this is a good experience for him
True, Volkanovski did a great job on those submission defense, he even train hard every day for those positions because he know it was going to happen. But, I don't feel like Volkanovski gives his best, he could KO Makhachev if he fight all the rounds just like he did in the last 2 minutes of the last round, in that moment he proves how he can dominate over Makhachev but was too late, and we can see the face of Makhachev desperate just waiting for the time to end before he gets knocked out.
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Here is the results, not many surprises Source: Wiki to be honest I'm in for a lot of surprises, Islam Makhachev won but it wasn't easy for him this fight so it's a surprise for me, the bookmakers put an odd that if my memory serves me correctly they gave a clear advantage to Islam Makhachev , but on the ground things were completely different, Jack Della Maddalena won as I expected, but honestly I didn't imagine that the guy would win after 2 minutes of the first round, and if I was already surprised with the result so quickly Jack Della Maddalena, I was even more surprised with the result of Justin Tafa's fight that won in the first round at 1 minute It's strange that a fighter loses in less than 2 minutes, I know there are many cases of fights that end in 2 minutes, but I still think it's very strange, it looks like the guy who loses in less than 2 minutes has never fought in his life, Kleydson Rodrigues and another guy who lost in less than 1 minute in round 1. I wonder how those guys who lose in round 1 in less than 1 minute feel
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Surely there is no denying that Alex Volkanovski has contested Islam Makhachev's wrestling and he defended all of Makhachev's Submission attempts actually Islam Makhachev was really surprised about how Alexander Volkanovski knows what he is doing and he surely said that this is a good experience for him
True, Volkanovski did a great job on those submission defense, he even train hard every day for those positions because he know it was going to happen. But, I don't feel like Volkanovski gives his best, he could KO Makhachev if he fight all the rounds just like he did in the last 2 minutes of the last round, in that moment he proves how he can dominate over Makhachev but was too late, and we can see the face of Makhachev desperate just waiting for the time to end before he gets knocked out. In my opinion, he can not do that in all the rounds pretty much in round 5 and Islam Makhachev also admits that Volkanovski really dominates the 5th round and for me, Islam Makhachev looks exhausted during the 5th round, that is why Volkanovski thinks he can do the same thing in all of the beginning rounds, both fighters really did their best and Alexander Volkanovski got the hearts of all that is watching the fight because pretty much all know the Caliber of Islam Makhachev on the ground and Volkanovski has proven everyone wrong, all the bettors and the doubters that Makhachev will submit him easily, that is why he is a true champion for sure well both of them are, and that is why you can not give all the credit to Volkanovski alone, even though the spectators on the fight like and chanting the name of Volkanovski because they all know of what Islam Makhachev can do and they are enjoying the fight thanks to Alexander Volkanovski that fight toe to tow with Islam Makhachev,
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February 12, 2023, 05:02:50 PM |
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Surely there is no denying that Alex Volkanovski has contested Islam Makhachev's wrestling and he defended all of Makhachev's Submission attempts actually Islam Makhachev was really surprised about how Alexander Volkanovski knows what he is doing and he surely said that this is a good experience for him
True, Volkanovski did a great job on those submission defense, he even train hard every day for those positions because he know it was going to happen. But, I don't feel like Volkanovski gives his best, he could KO Makhachev if he fight all the rounds just like he did in the last 2 minutes of the last round, in that moment he proves how he can dominate over Makhachev but was too late, and we can see the face of Makhachev desperate just waiting for the time to end before he gets knocked out. True. Volk can be an escape artist, Islam already had him on his back but Volk is brilliant with his escape. Everyone cheers for him. If there is another round in thier match, Islam would possibly be KOed, he nearly fell in the 5th round. Congrats to the winners who didn't choose by submission. And just like Islam, Yair Rodriguez is already the expected winner. Makhachev's next fight is said to be Poirier or a rematch with Oliveira.
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Surely there is no denying that Alex Volkanovski has contested Islam Makhachev's wrestling and he defended all of Makhachev's Submission attempts actually Islam Makhachev was really surprised about how Alexander Volkanovski knows what he is doing and he surely said that this is a good experience for him
True, Volkanovski did a great job on those submission defense, he even train hard every day for those positions because he know it was going to happen. But, I don't feel like Volkanovski gives his best, he could KO Makhachev if he fight all the rounds just like he did in the last 2 minutes of the last round, in that moment he proves how he can dominate over Makhachev but was too late, and we can see the face of Makhachev desperate just waiting for the time to end before he gets knocked out. True. Volk can be an escape artist, Islam already had him on his back but Volk is brilliant with his escape. Everyone cheers for him. If there is another round in thier match, Islam would possibly be KOed, he nearly fell in the 5th round. Congrats to the winners who didn't choose by submission. And just like Islam, Yair Rodriguez is already the expected winner. Makhachev's next fight is said to be Poirier or a rematch with Oliveira. I'm afraid that this fight will put Volk and Islam on another lvl for rest of their divisions. They will both learn from this and be even more dominant in next couple of fights.
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I'm hoping Volk gets another chance, I mean who else is going to push Makhachev into deep water like that? There was a few times that Islam got caught, and genuinely looked like Volk could've finished it a few times. Islam's striking definitely surprised me, and probably a lot of others too. Whatever lies in the future for both fighters, Volk made me a fan last night. I liked him anyway, but he really showed some heart, and despite the disadvantages, and the fact that the media, and pretty much everyone was expecting him to lose, he sure did put up a fight.
Oliveria, and Volk would be interesting just to see how they fare now that they've both faced Oliveria, and quite clearly Volk performed better despite not being known for his grappling.
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February 12, 2023, 06:31:33 PM |
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~ I'm hoping Volk gets another chance, I mean who else is going to push Makhachev into deep water like that? There was a few times that Islam got caught, and genuinely looked like Volk could've finished it a few times. Islam's striking definitely surprised me, and probably a lot of others too. Whatever lies in the future for both fighters, Volk made me a fan last night. I liked him anyway, but he really showed some heart, and despite the disadvantages, and the fact that the media, and pretty much everyone was expecting him to lose, he sure did put up a fight. Alexander Volkanovski and Islam Makhachev fought the best champ champ fight in my view in MMA history, majority of the champ champ fights we saw ended up in a decisive win by either opponent and Alexander Volkanovski gave Islam a lot of trouble than the rest of the fighters he faced and definitely we will be seeing them fight again. Khabib predicted the situation when Volkanovski was the back up fighter during Olivera camp and claimed that Alexander Volkanovski would be the toughest opponent for Islam and that was literally what we witnessed and a contender for the best fight of the year.
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Khabib predicted the situation when Volkanovski was the back up fighter during Olivera camp and claimed that Alexander Volkanovski would be the toughest opponent for Islam and that was literally what we witnessed and a contender for the best fight of the year.
Right, it's probably because Khabib identified that Oliveira basically leaves himself open a lot, and while he's good on the ground, he almost always gets rocked by his opponents. The difference is, a lot of the fighters aren't confident enough on the ground to follow up, and when they do they get caught in a submission. Although, Islam knew that he's good enough on the ground he can avoid that or at least feel confident enough to engage. That, ultimately was the difference. Volk probably finds Charles quite comfortable, since he doesn't really need to engage on the ground, and is quite comfortable getting decision wins. Although, he's more than capable of knocking Charles out in one punch too.
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The match I was most looking forward to of the year was indeed the best match of the year. It was a match of active mutual effort for five rounds. Volkanovski fought very clearly, he said in an interview after the match that he could have put more pressure in some places. He knows own mistake very well, we saw that Islam got tired when he took down the last round, when he hit the hammer fists, and afterwards, if he had spent energy earlier, I think it was clear that Volkanovski's cardio was better in this fight, he would have won this fight. I hope this fight is reorganized.
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Wow! Makachev did not get the submission! I am shocked by Volk's performance but even though Volk avoided the take downs Islam still dominated the fight. Islam was up on all judges score cards and one of them scored Makhachev winning 4 rounds out of 5. That is a dominant performance and I think he will be champion for a very long time he is the next khabib. I wonder who the ufc will match him up with next. I would like to see him go against Poirier and then give him Conor just because Makhachev can get the revenge for Khabib. Alexander Volkanovski and Islam Makhachev fought the best champ champ fight in my view in MMA history, majority of the champ champ fights we saw ended up in a decisive win by either opponent and Alexander Volkanovski gave Islam a lot of trouble than the rest of the fighters he faced and definitely we will be seeing them fight again.
Now Makhachev will be champ for a long time and I think he will move divisions to get another belt. I thought he would submit Volk but I do not think any one expected Volk to have good wrestling maybe because he has not been tested many times before but he looked like he put a lot of training in the wrestling but it was still not enough to defeat Makhachev
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Khabib predicted the situation when Volkanovski was the back up fighter during Olivera camp and claimed that Alexander Volkanovski would be the toughest opponent for Islam and that was literally what we witnessed and a contender for the best fight of the year.
Right, it's probably because Khabib identified that Oliveira basically leaves himself open a lot, and while he's good on the ground, he almost always gets rocked by his opponents. The difference is, a lot of the fighters aren't confident enough on the ground to follow up, and when they do they get caught in a submission. Although, Islam knew that he's good enough on the ground he can avoid that or at least feel confident enough to engage. That, ultimately was the difference. Volk probably finds Charles quite comfortable, since he doesn't really need to engage on the ground, and is quite comfortable getting decision wins. Although, he's more than capable of knocking Charles out in one punch too. I think it was the wrong game plan for Makhachev to strike with Volk for that long. I'm not saying Makhachev isn't a good striker but it would've been better for him to be more relentless with the take downs, wear Volk down and try to finish him with either via GnP or via sub. And... What did I tell you? Who's the pie shtter. And the funny thing is I got another lottery ticket up with Tyson Pedro at the top ticket. By the main card I was so drunk I couldn't see straight. I didn't care anymore. Lolol.
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Two days has passed after Volkanovski vs Makhachev fight and I start to feel like I wasnt satisfied. Probably I have expected more from p4p top1 vs top2 fight. No doubt that we saw a decent fight, but this fight wont get into a list of most significant UFC fights, even though it was the first time such fighters meet. Maybe because the hype wasnt as huge as expected, maybe because there were no much drama before the fight, maybe because both fighters skills were so high and close, so it was hard to tell who is best or that turned fight a bit boring. Makhachev surprised with his striking against one of the best strikers. Volkanovski surprised with wrestling defence.
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February 13, 2023, 09:22:38 AM |
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Surprisingly Makhachev can fight distance and have striking power, on other hand Volkanovski do have wrestling skill and not only have striking power, both of them clearly train themselves in the other fighting style in order to surprise or fix their disadvantages. Even Makhachev clearly won the fight since he landed more punches, but it deserve a rematch and we will see if Volkanovski can knock out Makhachev in the next fight. Makhachev's next fight is said to be Poirier or a rematch with Oliveira.
I think a rematch with Volkanovski might better, when he was fight with Oliveira, Makhachev's win was solid and there's no competition from Oliveira.
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YuginKadoya
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February 13, 2023, 09:26:45 AM |
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True. Volk can be an escape artist, Islam already had him on his back but Volk is brilliant with his escape. Everyone cheers for him. If there is another round in thier match, Islam would possibly be KOed, he nearly fell in the 5th round. Congrats to the winners who didn't choose by submission. And just like Islam, Yair Rodriguez is already the expected winner.
Makhachev's next fight is said to be Poirier or a rematch with Oliveira.
Many are pretty much amazed at what Volkanovski is doing performing as an escape artist and he even was talking to Islam Makhachev when he was on his back like it was nothing to me many are well-known about how dominating Islam Makhachev is, but seeing how easily Alexander Volkanovski escapes him this kind of show that the boa constrictor was exposed with his ground submission, For me, Islam Makhachev still won here because Alex Volkanovski thought he will be dominant with the striking Makhachev just out strike him getting the upper hand and Volkanovski is just down fond surprise well I think Islam Makhachev would really need his brother Khabib Nurmagomedov on his side, upon that fight Khabib called Islam and saying sorry for not being in the corner with him, so I think even though they have won the match they felt that they have lost the fight so I think Islam Makhachev's camp will surely be ready next time with Khabib Nurmagomedov on his side, and pretty much I am excited on that rematch,
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February 13, 2023, 09:38:52 AM |
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pretty much I am excited on that rematch,
I have a bit opposite opinion. I think there will be no rematch, even though fans would love to see who is better (as this fight was rather close), or to see someone winning more persuasively. In the post fight interviews, Makhachev said that he wanted to test his striking more, and Volkanovski said that he needs that kind of fights to test himself, to learn new. So the both get what they wanted, both tested their skills, and now will go back to their divisions, smashing everyone else
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February 13, 2023, 09:56:29 AM |
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Khabib predicted the situation when Volkanovski was the back up fighter during Olivera camp and claimed that Alexander Volkanovski would be the toughest opponent for Islam and that was literally what we witnessed and a contender for the best fight of the year.
Right, it's probably because Khabib identified that Oliveira basically leaves himself open a lot, and while he's good on the ground, he almost always gets rocked by his opponents. The difference is, a lot of the fighters aren't confident enough on the ground to follow up, and when they do they get caught in a submission. Although, Islam knew that he's good enough on the ground he can avoid that or at least feel confident enough to engage. That, ultimately was the difference. Volk probably finds Charles quite comfortable, since he doesn't really need to engage on the ground, and is quite comfortable getting decision wins. Although, he's more than capable of knocking Charles out in one punch too. I think it was the wrong game plan for Makhachev to strike with Volk for that long. I'm not saying Makhachev isn't a good striker but it would've been better for him to be more relentless with the take downs, wear Volk down and try to finish him with either via GnP or via sub. And... What did I tell you? Who's the pie shtter. And the funny thing is I got another lottery ticket up with Tyson Pedro at the top ticket. By the main card I was so drunk I couldn't see straight. I didn't care anymore. Lolol. I was actually quite happy to see that Islam won the fight against Volkanovski. It was a very good fight as well. And I think it was a good fight from Islam because if he actually did go for more and more takedowns, I think it could have become a little one sided. But of course, it could have been a more dominating performance from Islam. That I also agree that the prediction of Khabib was right again. There is a reason why he is called “the goat”.
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February 13, 2023, 11:46:57 AM |
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Many are pretty much amazed at what Volkanovski is doing performing as an escape artist and he even was talking to Islam Makhachev when he was on his back like it was nothing to me many are well-known about how dominating Islam Makhachev is, but seeing how easily Alexander Volkanovski escapes him this kind of show that the boa constrictor was exposed with his ground submission,
The battle was really very close, in such battles it is very difficult to give an advantage to one of the fighters, but as they say in such cases, if you are a preetindent for the title, then you should be much better than the champion, to give you victory. Therefore, the victory of Makhachev may not be as confidient as many would like, but still deserved. Maybe Volkanovsky was a little better in the rack, but Makhachev was better in wrestling. I saw that many people write that the Volk won, but I repeat, there was no convincing advantage, none of the fighters. I don’t even know if I would like to see the revenge match, or not, I assume that it will pass approximately the same.
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