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November 25, 2021, 08:19:37 PM
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Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this
The last match for Liverpool will not mean anything, because Liverpool is already in the playoffs. And Milan can take advantage of this and win the match against Liverpool's second squad (I think Klopp will give all the main squad a rest). Atletico will not let Porto win, I think either Atletico will win or there will be a draw, but the match will be difficult with a lot of yellow cards. And thus Milan has a theoretical chance of getting out of the group.

Oh yeah that makes sense, I didn't think before of course Liverpool don't want to take the risk but we'll see if Liverpool play with the second squad or the main squad
Regarding Porto I believe they can qualify because they have some advantages. Let's wait for the next match.

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November 25, 2021, 08:45:10 PM
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Milan only has the potential to get 5 points because I'm not sure Liverpool defeated the worst thing that can happen is a draw
Porto has more chance in the last game playing at Estádio do Dragão with 1 point Porto will qualify for the next stage so they will not waste this
The last match for Liverpool will not mean anything, because Liverpool is already in the playoffs. And Milan can take advantage of this and win the match against Liverpool's second squad (I think Klopp will give all the main squad a rest). Atletico will not let Porto win, I think either Atletico will win or there will be a draw, but the match will be difficult with a lot of yellow cards. And thus Milan has a theoretical chance of getting out of the group.

Oh yeah that makes sense, I didn't think before of course Liverpool don't want to take the risk but we'll see if Liverpool play with the second squad or the main squad
Regarding Porto I believe they can qualify because they have some advantages. Let's wait for the next match.
Congratulations to Liverpool and well done to Jürgen Klopp for qualification with ease,it was suppose to be a difficult job but they makes it looks easy well done to the team,I believe there last match we be mixed with alot of under 23 players and some fridge players because Liverpool is a premier League side they can't Field In a strong side for a match that don't have too much importance for them to avoid unnecessary injuries and fatigue

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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

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November 25, 2021, 09:29:01 PM
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A loss to City by PSG doesn't look that great but considering they got the first game I would say it is totally fine. The only problem is that they have a tie with Leipzig and Brugge which never really made sense to me. Leipzig doing horrible at bundesliga right now and not like how they were last season, and brugge is ... well brugge. In any case, PSG needs to do a bit better, but it is totally understandable to be failing in chemistry so far, they are going to get better and play much better together the more games they play.

Sherrif seems to actually did alright for themselves, considering they worth 10% of most stars as a whole roster, I would say getting that 2 wins was more than enough for them, now they will move to Europa and probably lose there too but getting this far is more than enough for a team like that. Aside from that nothing really worthy of talking happened, the games were pretty tame.

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November 25, 2021, 10:25:12 PM
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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

Sporting was much better then Dortmund in this match and they destroyed them in Lisabon. Dortmund without Halland is really bad and it was seen in this match. They just couldnt score and missed too many chances. Dortmund will now have to focus only on bundesliga.

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November 25, 2021, 10:33:45 PM
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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.

Sporting was much better then Dortmund in this match and they destroyed them in Lisabon. Dortmund without Halland is really bad and it was seen in this match. They just couldnt score and missed too many chances. Dortmund will now have to focus only on bundesliga.

Losing Haaland made it very difficult for Dortmund to score goals, especially in the last two games in the Champions League, Dortmund get
a red card,  it shows the Dortmund players are so frustrated. I just hope Haaland can play soon, so Dortmund's performance can improve again.
It seems that many people are surprised that Dortmund can lose to Sporting and have to be eliminated in the Champions League group stage.
But it must be admitted that the fighting spirit of Sporting players is higher and the attacks built by Sporting players are much more effective.
Although statistically Dortmund had more control over the match, but in the end it was Sporting who won the match and Sporting deserved to
qualify for the next round. At least Dortmund can still play in the Europa League and not only focus on playing in the Bundesliga, even though
the level of the Europa League is still below the Champions League.

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November 26, 2021, 12:04:09 AM
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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.
True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

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November 26, 2021, 12:38:30 AM
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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.
True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

Haaland injury with long term and left club until end this season this why make Dortmund have out from champion league most early, bad performance Dortmund on champion leagie because they failed on group stage and loss competitive with Ajax Amsterdam have excelent performance. Lft by Sacho to Manchester United they not get the same quality player replace Sacho as winger position on Dortmumd.

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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.
True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

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November 26, 2021, 02:20:25 AM
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A loss to City by PSG doesn't look that great but considering they got the first game I would say it is totally fine. The only problem is that they have a tie with Leipzig and Brugge which never really made sense to me. Leipzig doing horrible at bundesliga right now and not like how they were last season, and brugge is ... well brugge. In any case, PSG needs to do a bit better, but it is totally understandable to be failing in chemistry so far, they are going to get better and play much better together the more games they play.

Sherrif seems to actually did alright for themselves, considering they worth 10% of most stars as a whole roster, I would say getting that 2 wins was more than enough for them, now they will move to Europa and probably lose there too but getting this far is more than enough for a team like that. Aside from that nothing really worthy of talking happened, the games were pretty tame.
Even when PSG scored the first goal,I was so confident that Mancity will win the match because of the way Mancity was playing.The aggression in their play was too much,that PSG had no choice,but to concede. 
Although PSG surprised me,because I thought they won't be able to get even a goal,but they scored first.

The Champions league is between Chelsea,Bayern,Mancity and Liverpool.The latter have been really impressive too,and are very aggressive in their play.
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November 26, 2021, 03:33:57 AM
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I'm in shock that Dortmund have been eliminated from the Champions League so early. I never thought that they would lose to Sporting yesterday. Actually, they had so many players missing and Erling Haaland was also one of them. But they were still the more powerful team in this game. But I really appreciated Sporting's high effort in the game. They brought the score to 2-0 already by Pedro Goncalves' goals in the first half. And Emre Can's red card ended Dortmund's hopes for good. Sporting won the game by 3-1 and guaranteed their place for the next stage.
True, too many injured players, it's very hard to fight on many matches when a club only has 1 or 2 mainstay players, Dortmund must think the solution for the next session or be active on winter windows transfer. But not worry, they still have a chance to win the trophy Uefa euro league. Dortmund has 1 ticket to go on 2nd round versus runner-up group UEFA euro league, I hope they still continue until the finals.

It is very good but more dangerous to build a team around one star man.
A team should be a team even when a key player exits temporarily or permanently.
Ronaldo left Juventus and they are struggling;
Messi left Barcelona and they are struggling;
Haaland not available for Dortmund and they crashed out of Champions league.
A good team should be like Chelsea for instance. The absence of a player can only be felt but will not be disastrous.
Even though Dortmund will play against Besiktas in their last match, it seems that a certain victory will not change their position because they lost in goal aggressiveness to Sporting. But I'm personally not too surprised by what Dortmund have produced so far in the UCL, because in my view even though Dortmund are a big team but sometimes this team is very vulnerable to a decline in performance which makes the results not always consistent and that's what I've seen many times at Dortmund.

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November 26, 2021, 04:41:50 AM
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Even though Dortmund will play against Besiktas in their last match, it seems that a certain victory will not change their position because they lost in goal aggressiveness to Sporting. But I'm personally not too surprised by what Dortmund have produced so far in the UCL, because in my view even though Dortmund are a big team but sometimes this team is very vulnerable to a decline in performance which makes the results not always consistent and that's what I've seen many times at Dortmund.

Had Haaland not been injured, Ebong would have had the opportunity to play in all of the Champions League matches, perhaps we would have seen a better performance than Dortmund. Dortmund is a good team though. Yet they still rely heavily on Haaland for goals. The players are also mentally stronger and chairful when Haaland is in the team.

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November 26, 2021, 06:45:38 AM
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Milan is still in the race and they can even pass the turn.

They only need to beat Liverpool and they will pass and hope for Porto not winning the last game.

An hard task for sure but it can happen.
Porto, AC Milan, Atletico Madrid, they still have the same chance, if Porto beats Atletico Madrid, it is certain that Porto will advance to the round of 16, but if Atletico Madrid wins, Athletico must first make sure AC Milan loses to Liferpol , but in other matches ac milan also has the same chance, if they win, and ac milan vs porto draw it can be confirmed that ac milan will advance to the last 16, but according to my prediction, porto has a great chance to advance to the last 16, because it is very difficult to beat liferpol, because liferpol is currently playing very well and consistently..

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November 26, 2021, 07:35:46 AM
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If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined  Grin
An equally interesting situation in group G: the teams have 5,6,7 and 8 points, respectively.

Why would Liverpool be demotivated though? They played guys like Minamino and Origi, and also even played that youngster whoever his name is who also made two back2back debuts in EPL and UCL.

I think if I was the guys selected to play I would be motivated first to play well against a big old club in Italy and second to show my manager what he is missing out if he doesn't select me Smiley

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November 26, 2021, 07:39:35 AM
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Had Haaland not been injured, Ebong would have had the opportunity to play in all of the Champions League matches, perhaps we would have seen a better performance than Dortmund. Dortmund is a good team though. Yet they still rely heavily on Haaland for goals. The players are also mentally stronger and chairful when Haaland is in the team.
Dormund have to learn how to win matches, even if Haaland is playing or not. They always depends on him, and when ever he is not playing, Dormund finds it difficult scoring goals. If you observe, they dominated in their match against Sporting with 65% ball possession, but they couldn't score more goals. It seems the presence of Haaland means a lot to the players. Unfortunately, this is the end of the road for them in the Champion League this season.



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November 26, 2021, 08:06:43 AM
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After four weeks of having no victory, Milan have finally got their first one against Atletico Madrid in the away match. They were the far better side just as they were like this in the match in Italy until getting a red card. This time, the scenario wasn't the same and Milan finally found a goal in the last minutes and won by 1-0. And as Liverpool beat Porto by 2-0 too, Milan are only one point away from the 2nd place. By the way, they have taken the 3rd place from Atletico Madrid after defeating them.

As for the last group matches, there are Porto v Atletico Madrid and Milan v Liverpool matches. The excitement level is going to be really high. And I would really like to see Milan advancing to the next round.
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November 26, 2021, 08:26:41 AM
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A loss to City by PSG doesn't look that great but considering they got the first game I would say it is totally fine. The only problem is that they have a tie with Leipzig and Brugge which never really made sense to me. Leipzig doing horrible at bundesliga right now and not like how they were last season, and brugge is ... well brugge. In any case, PSG needs to do a bit better, but it is totally understandable to be failing in chemistry so far, they are going to get better and play much better together the more games they play.

Sherrif seems to actually did alright for themselves, considering they worth 10% of most stars as a whole roster, I would say getting that 2 wins was more than enough for them, now they will move to Europa and probably lose there too but getting this far is more than enough for a team like that. Aside from that nothing really worthy of talking happened, the games were pretty tame.
Even when PSG scored the first goal,I was so confident that Mancity will win the match because of the way Mancity was playing.The aggression in their play was too much,that PSG had no choice,but to concede. 
Although PSG surprised me,because I thought they won't be able to get even a goal,but they scored first.

The Champions league is between Chelsea,Bayern,Mancity and Liverpool.The latter have been really impressive too,and are very aggressive in their play.
PSG's game is getting less and less with Mancity players, I don't think Messi can do anything about his attack, it's like dying in Mancity's defense, so I think PSG from a mental point of view are still not ready and dominate Mancity more confidently.
Even though PSG lost and could still qualify for the next one, I think there will be more pressure later and PSG must be ready with all their concentration so that their game stays organized.
From the kick statistics alone, it is still much different from Mancity.

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November 26, 2021, 11:01:48 AM
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After four weeks of having no victory, Milan have finally got their first one against Atletico Madrid in the away match. They were the far better side just as they were like this in the match in Italy until getting a red card. This time, the scenario wasn't the same and Milan finally found a goal in the last minutes and won by 1-0. And as Liverpool beat Porto by 2-0 too, Milan are only one point away from the 2nd place. By the way, they have taken the 3rd place from Atletico Madrid after defeating them.

As for the last group matches, there are Porto v Atletico Madrid and Milan v Liverpool matches. The excitement level is going to be really high. And I would really like to see Milan advancing to the next round.

AC Milan managed to get their first win in the Champions League and this allowed them to breathe a little easier before facing Liverpool in the last match, the victory against Atletico Madrid made their chances of qualifying for the last 16 slightly open, because later they only needed to beat Liverpool and hope if Atletico Madrid drew with Porto, but if Porto manages to beat Athletico, of course AC Milan will only be in third position, but if AC Milan wins against Liverpool and Athletico beats Porto, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid qualification will be determined by head to head or difference goals later.

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November 26, 2021, 11:07:12 AM
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If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined  Grin
An equally interesting situation in group G: the teams have 5,6,7 and 8 points, respectively.

Why would Liverpool be demotivated though? They played guys like Minamino and Origi, and also even played that youngster whoever his name is who also made two back2back debuts in EPL and UCL.

I think if I was the guys selected to play I would be motivated first to play well against a big old club in Italy and second to show my manager what he is missing out if he doesn't select me Smiley

Yes, there is always such a possibility that the reserve squad, having more physical strength and great motivation to prove themselves, will play stronger than the main squad, but still, in most cases this does not happen (simply because the main squad is better in all characteristics). Compared to Milan, where the entire club (including analysts and all players) will prepare for this match as for the last (which it really risks becoming), then I doubt that Liverpool will be just as strongly inclined towards an uncompromising game.

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November 26, 2021, 11:38:47 AM
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If Milan beat demotivated Liverpool in the last round and advance to the next round, it will be an impressive comeback. The situation in the group is just ridiculous now: Liverpool has more points than the other three clubs combined  Grin
An equally interesting situation in group G: the teams have 5,6,7 and 8 points, respectively.

Why would Liverpool be demotivated though? They played guys like Minamino and Origi, and also even played that youngster whoever his name is who also made two back2back debuts in EPL and UCL.

I think if I was the guys selected to play I would be motivated first to play well against a big old club in Italy and second to show my manager what he is missing out if he doesn't select me Smiley

Yes, there is always such a possibility that the reserve squad, having more physical strength and great motivation to prove themselves, will play stronger than the main squad, but still, in most cases this does not happen (simply because the main squad is better in all characteristics). Compared to Milan, where the entire club (including analysts and all players) will prepare for this match as for the last (which it really risks becoming), then I doubt that Liverpool will be just as strongly inclined towards an uncompromising game.

Liverpool have now indeed locked their qualification ticket with 15 points, but that doesn't mean it will make Liverpool play less serious in their last match against Milan, I think Liverpool will still be aiming for a win in that match to complete their journey this season, but as you can see say, maybe they will field some substitutes and save their core players, but that doesn't mean  will be an easy match for milan, because I think liverpool reserves player will play all out to show their prowess in that match, other than that I see if the reserve squad owned by liverpool is no less great with the quality possessed by their current main team.

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