ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Juggy777]

^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.

I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.

Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

If the government of srilanka puts adequate security measures then I do not it will be an issue. I think more than security covid19 is a big issue everywhere. Srilanka is still better place with less number of positive cases.

@pakitheboss according to the BCCI president it’s important to stage the IPL because 10 - 20% of the revenue is distributed among all the boards, and this I believe is a big hint for us that IPL will be organised soon (hint: all boards love money don’t they?). Although he was silent on the location it seems that the authority’s are narrowing it down to UAE, as IPL was organised out there in the past, hence I too feel that IPL will be organised in UAE only.

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[Vishnu.Reang]

I don't understand the statement from Ganguly. He is claiming that 10% to 20% of the revenue from the IPL is distributed among the other boards. As far as I know, that is not the case. Perhaps what he hinted is that 10% to 20% of the player salaries go to non-Indian (i.e overseas) players. As far as I know, the other boards doesn't receive any money from the IPL directly.

[Swordsoffreedom]

^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.

I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.

Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

I think all the South Asian country (Pakistan , India , Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) have some safety issue. but if government  military takes responsibility for the security of everyone then I think it is not impossible Sri Lanka can host the IPL.  on the other hand UAE is safer than others. BCCI can host IPL on UAE. Actually, I don't know why they talk about hosting IPL on Sri-Lanka instead of UAE.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I think all the South Asian country (Pakistan , India , Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) have some safety issue. but if government  military takes responsibility for the security of everyone then I think it is not impossible Sri Lanka can host the IPL.  on the other hand UAE is safer than others. BCCI can host IPL on UAE. Actually, I don't know why they talk about hosting IPL on Sri-Lanka instead of UAE.

Apart from Pakistan and Afghanistan, I don't think that the remaining countries have major security issues. I am not denying that the other nations had some isolated incidents in the past, but such events can happen even in the most developed nations. If the government provides adequate security, then there is no safety issue as such to any of the visiting teams.

[ene1980]

When $500 Millions at stake then anything is possible all they have to do is invest bit more in logistics and safety of players, which they are already aware of and its very much doable IMO. As far as i know Center gov doesn't have much say in it as they already issued a multiple guideline when they unlocked the lock down (except opening Intl air route, BCCI is capable to hire private jets for personal use) so its all comes down to state gov. BCCI would like to see IPL going ahead in India but their first choice is UAE and UAE seems eager to host IPL season. I would like to see IPL in Sri Lanka as its economical good option but UAE is okay too.

Since there is a huge amount at stake the BCCI could proceed with the IPL if they get the green signal from the ICC. UAE is a good option as they recently constructed a fight island for the UFC and they conducted the event successfully and they have the money to conduct extravagant tournaments like the IPL but i have not idea whether they have multiple stadiums with flood light facility is the question, i know Pakistan conducts their Test matches in the UAE.

 

[teosanru]

I can't control my laughter after seeing BCCI trying so hard to have an IPL this year. The BCCI came up with the IPL, only because they wanted to destroy the Indian Cricket League (ICL). If the Zee Entertainment Enterprises had not came up with the ICL, then the BCCI would have never considered to launch a franchise league of their own. Now the IPL has grown bigger than any other cricket tournament.

I don't think it's 100% true. I mean yes BCCI might have got some inspiration from ICL but saying that there would have been no IPL if no ICL that is wrong. Cricket took this franchise based league idea actually from football. They could never do this earlier because of 50 over format, but introduction of twenty over game made this idea a reality. But yes that being said BCCI are trying their best to ensure this revenue comes to their pocket this year. Who knows they decide to do two IPLs next year. IPLs are even more profiteer than World Cup. LOL.

Well said brother. I'm agreed with you. I think BCCI is trying hard to organizing an IPL in this year only for revenue. You know that BCCI earn a rich amount of revenue from IPL sponsors and advertisements. they don't want to lose this handsome amount of money. so, they want to organize IPL in this year hardly. but I don't think that BCCI wants to destroy the Indian cricket league.

Fun fact: cancellation of Ipl has caused bcci a loss of more than 3800 crore rupees. So their desperation looks pretty obvious.

But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.

Prodigal son who turns investments 1000s of times is the secretary. Papa is the Home minister. I don't think if they try to go ahead with it, BCCI is gonna need to "fight" the government. Of course, they will make a show out of it so the news channels have something to talk about. For bending public opinion, we have the famed whatsapp army, which btw, is busy making self-goals these days when it comes to pissing off Nepali citizens.

Politics aside, i think they can go ahead with it anytime they want. Its just that most of the "celebrity owners" are probably not on-board considering the conditions in Mumbai and potential loss of investments as the stadiums won't feel. There is the player fees, auction money, advertisement etc that has to be taken care of. IPL runs really close to the entertainment industry and it is in shambles right now.

Everything depends on whether these stakeholders can turn a profit. From the general perception of the Indian public, it can be safely assumed that very few people would like to go out in a crowd of 60,000 in the stadiums. There is no business case for IPL, even if we count the viewing rights.

Haha oh yes sorry i forgot the connection of bcci with our beloved home minister. What I meant here was courts and not government exactly. But yes you are absolutely right it's about the money but actually 3400 crores of income comes from streaming rights. The income from stadium tickets is meagre 400 crores. This 3400 crores can still be pretty much preserved

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Yeah, 99% chances (Without spectators; question is where?). I have mentioned numerous times that IPL is first priority for BCCI because its their lifeline. They don't have any other choice, so only 1% chance of cancellation. The way i see it, BCCI waiting for official confirmation from the ICC in regards of T-20 World Cup cancellation. Once they cancel WC, then we can expect some quick action from the BCCI.

I might be dead wrong on my calculation when giving % number in favor of IPL/BCCI here but that's make sense to me right now when i look at the big picture.

I think the sole problem isn't spectator but the teams and support staff too. We have 8 teams with roaster of 20 players each and followed by support staff and few managers from franchises. Even if they decide to keep it in just one city like Mumbai. Still accommodating so many players within a city can be cumbersome. And not to forget that foreign players would have to undergo a long quarantine. I think all the players would be kept in complete isolation for complete series. So all this doesn't makes sense as per current protocols. But yes it's thousands of crores at stake. I won't be surprised if BCCI gets ready to fight with Government too on this issue.

When $500 Millions at stake then anything is possible all they have to do is invest bit more in logistics and safety of players, which they are already aware of and its very much doable IMO. As far as i know Center gov doesn't have much say in it as they already issued a multiple guideline when they unlocked the lock down (except opening Intl air route, BCCI is capable to hire private jets for personal use) so its all comes down to state gov. BCCI would like to see IPL going ahead in India but their first choice is UAE and UAE seems eager to host IPL season. I would like to see IPL in Sri Lanka as its economical good option but UAE is okay too.

yes but I think no matter how much they invest. There is a still a lot of risk involved also when WHO is saying that disease might be airborne. And why would even UAE or Sri Lanka want it to happen in their countries? Without crowd allowed in stadium there won't be much of revenue for them.

[pakhitheboss]

^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.

I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.

Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

If the government of srilanka puts adequate security measures then I do not it will be an issue. I think more than security covid19 is a big issue everywhere. Srilanka is still better place with less number of positive cases.

@pakitheboss according to the BCCI president it’s important to stage the IPL because 10 - 20% of the revenue is distributed among all the boards, and this I believe is a big hint for us that IPL will be organised soon (hint: all boards love money don’t they?). Although he was silent on the location it seems that the authority’s are narrowing it down to UAE, as IPL was organised out there in the past, hence I too feel that IPL will be organised in UAE only.

Source:

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/its-not-just-about-india-sourav-ganguly-explains-why-ipl-2020-is-crucial-for-world-cricket/620265

Yes I am aware of the revenue loss but considering the present situation where WHO has come out with a new statement that it is possible for covid19 virus to spread through air, plus the lack of ability to control the spread by almost all countries can postpone IPL this year.

Situation in UAE is not too good too
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/united-arab-emirates/

But, is better than India.

[Vishnu.Reang]

^^^ A few days back, I had posted about the situation in UAE. There is a massive under-count of cases in the UAE and the other GCC nations. And despite that, they have one of the highest infection rates in the world. For example, 3.7% of the total population is infected in Qatar, while the same is 0.55% for UAE. This is despite the under-count. Staging the IPL in UAE is going to be one of the craziest ideas ever put forward.

[Vishnu.Reang]

^^^ A few days back, I had posted about the situation in UAE. There is a massive under-count of cases in the UAE and the other GCC nations. And despite that, they have one of the highest infection rates in the world. For example, 3.7% of the total population is infected in Qatar, while the same is 0.55% for UAE. This is despite the under-count. Staging the IPL in UAE is going to be one of the craziest ideas ever put forward.

If that is the case then IPL will be ruled out from this place too and then what are we left with, like NZ had denied it, UAE we cannot consider it, India out of scope so now this seems more towards the cancellation now of the IPL unless the magic happens from behind and suddenly the NZ gets ready to host it or something like that happens with the venue.

As of now, there are two realistic possibilities - New Zealand and Sri Lanka.

The case with New Zealand is very difficult, as NZC has hinted that they are not interested in hosting the tournament. However, the NZ government may be willing to help the BCCI, considering the enormous revenue this tournament can bring to the country.

Sri Lanka is also an optimal choice. This country has remained 100% free of local transmission for the past one month or so. If the BCCI is looks for safety, then it won't get any better than Sri Lanka.

Then if the BCCI is really desperate, then they may go ahead with a tournament in either India or the UAE. But then enormous risks are going to be there.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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As of now, there are two realistic possibilities - New Zealand and Sri Lanka.
The case with New Zealand is very difficult, as NZC has hinted that they are not interested in hosting the tournament. However, the NZ government may be willing to help the BCCI, considering the enormous revenue this tournament can bring to the country.
Sri Lanka is also an optimal choice. This country has remained 100% free of local transmission for the past one month or so. If the BCCI is looks for safety, then it won't get any better than Sri Lanka.
Then if the BCCI is really desperate, then they may go ahead with a tournament in either India or the UAE. But then enormous risks are going to be there.

Sri Lanka is the best choice. If Sri Lanka cricket board want to host IPL. I think Sri Lankan cricket board will be interested about hosting IPL. because they will be able to make much money from it. BCCI has another option, that is UAE, But you know UAE is not yet free from coronavirus. so BCCI may will organize IPL on UAE, but then many cricket boards will not give exemption to their players to play in IPL  due to covid-19 epidemic. so, Sri Lanka is the better option for BCCI.

[Indymoney]

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As of now, there are two realistic possibilities - New Zealand and Sri Lanka.
The case with New Zealand is very difficult, as NZC has hinted that they are not interested in hosting the tournament. However, the NZ government may be willing to help the BCCI, considering the enormous revenue this tournament can bring to the country.
Sri Lanka is also an optimal choice. This country has remained 100% free of local transmission for the past one month or so. If the BCCI is looks for safety, then it won't get any better than Sri Lanka.
Then if the BCCI is really desperate, then they may go ahead with a tournament in either India or the UAE. But then enormous risks are going to be there.

Sri Lanka is the best choice. If Sri Lanka cricket board want to host IPL. I think Sri Lankan cricket board will be interested about hosting IPL. because they will be able to make much money from it. BCCI has another option, that is UAE, But you know UAE is not yet free from coronavirus. so BCCI may will organize IPL on UAE, but then many cricket boards will not give exemption to their players to play in IPL  due to covid-19 epidemic. so, Sri Lanka is the better option for BCCI.

If BCCI want to host IPL in UAE then they have to wait for nearly few months like October or November could be ok for them as here weather is very hot and sometime its really not help any one so after three months could be ok and hopefully in next three months we will able to have some better response about Corona then surely they will do this all until its all rumours and nothing serious business.

[ene1980]

Sri Lanka is the best choice. If Sri Lanka cricket board want to host IPL. I think Sri Lankan cricket board will be interested about hosting IPL. because they will be able to make much money from it. BCCI has another option, that is UAE, But you know UAE is not yet free from coronavirus. so BCCI may will organize IPL on UAE, but then many cricket boards will not give exemption to their players to play in IPL  due to covid-19 epidemic. so, Sri Lanka is the better option for BCCI.

If ICC gives the green signal to conduct the IPL then not many countries will fight over it and restrict the players from participating in the tournament and the ICC is yet to cancel or postponed the T20 World Cup and the reason for the delay in verdict might be because they are expecting the situation to be getting better in a few months which is not going to happen and there is no point in delaying, if the ICC wants to conduct the tournament they need to first get the permission from the Aussie government.

[BitSat19]

Sri Lanka is the best choice. If Sri Lanka cricket board want to host IPL. I think Sri Lankan cricket board will be interested about hosting IPL. because they will be able to make much money from it. BCCI has another option, that is UAE, But you know UAE is not yet free from coronavirus. so BCCI may will organize IPL on UAE, but then many cricket boards will not give exemption to their players to play in IPL  due to covid-19 epidemic. so, Sri Lanka is the better option for BCCI.

If ICC gives the green signal to conduct the IPL then not many countries will fight over it and restrict the players from participating in the tournament and the ICC is yet to cancel or postponed the T20 World Cup and the reason for the delay in verdict might be because they are expecting the situation to be getting better in a few months which is not going to happen and there is no point in delaying, if the ICC wants to conduct the tournament they need to first get the permission from the Aussie government.

Right now no one is sure whats going on and what will happen as rumours working very good and all stage is setting for IPL2020 because most of high profile officials are saying Twenty/20 world cup is very difficult in current year so its mean we are going to watch IPL2020 but no one sure where is going to play as Australia is fighting with Corona and Gulf is also currently no good place so Sri Lanka is best choice but we have to wait for official announcement.

[teosanru]

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As of now, there are two realistic possibilities - New Zealand and Sri Lanka.
The case with New Zealand is very difficult, as NZC has hinted that they are not interested in hosting the tournament. However, the NZ government may be willing to help the BCCI, considering the enormous revenue this tournament can bring to the country.
Sri Lanka is also an optimal choice. This country has remained 100% free of local transmission for the past one month or so. If the BCCI is looks for safety, then it won't get any better than Sri Lanka.
Then if the BCCI is really desperate, then they may go ahead with a tournament in either India or the UAE. But then enormous risks are going to be there.

Sri Lanka is the best choice. If Sri Lanka cricket board want to host IPL. I think Sri Lankan cricket board will be interested about hosting IPL. because they will be able to make much money from it. BCCI has another option, that is UAE, But you know UAE is not yet free from coronavirus. so BCCI may will organize IPL on UAE, but then many cricket boards will not give exemption to their players to play in IPL  due to covid-19 epidemic. so, Sri Lanka is the better option for BCCI.

Even Sri Lanka has 2700 cases. Do you think Sri Lanka would be ready to bring in 500 foreign players, umpires, support staff, franchises, referee and will the interenational boards of these countries be willing to send their players somewhere around the world? Think of it if someone catches covid in between the tour the whole Series would be more or less haunted. Because every team will be playing against each other.

Sri Lanka is the best choice. If Sri Lanka cricket board want to host IPL. I think Sri Lankan cricket board will be interested about hosting IPL. because they will be able to make much money from it. BCCI has another option, that is UAE, But you know UAE is not yet free from coronavirus. so BCCI may will organize IPL on UAE, but then many cricket boards will not give exemption to their players to play in IPL  due to covid-19 epidemic. so, Sri Lanka is the better option for BCCI.

If ICC gives the green signal to conduct the IPL then not many countries will fight over it and restrict the players from participating in the tournament and the ICC is yet to cancel or postponed the T20 World Cup and the reason for the delay in verdict might be because they are expecting the situation to be getting better in a few months which is not going to happen and there is no point in delaying, if the ICC wants to conduct the tournament they need to first get the permission from the Aussie government.

Which I don't really think they would give. Another thing is New Zealand players. They finally are coronavirus free would they be sending their players abroad and take the risk of covid spread again?

[Vishnu.Reang]

Right now no one is sure whats going on and what will happen as rumours working very good and all stage is setting for IPL2020 because most of high profile officials are saying Twenty/20 world cup is very difficult in current year so its mean we are going to watch IPL2020 but no one sure where is going to play as Australia is fighting with Corona and Gulf is also currently no good place so Sri Lanka is best choice but we have to wait for official announcement.

It is impossible to take any decision as of now. Couple of weeks back, Australia was being regarded as mostly free from COVID 19. But then they had a large spike with hundreds of cases. Sri Lanka is in a similar position now. They have remained largely untouched by the pandemic. But you never know when the outbreak will spread there. With each passing day, I am getting more pessimistic. I have been saying this for the past two months - the BCCI needs to cancel this year's edition. There is no other option before them.

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It is impossible to take any decision as of now. Couple of weeks back, Australia was being regarded as mostly free from COVID 19. But then they had a large spike with hundreds of cases. Sri Lanka is in a similar position now. They have remained largely untouched by the pandemic. But you never know when the outbreak will spread there. With each passing day, I am getting more pessimistic. I have been saying this for the past two months - the BCCI needs to cancel this year's edition. There is no other option before them.

You can still segregate and test the players before leaving the destination and if the cricket body can undertake the huge responsibility to test and monitor each and everyone participating in the tournament then they can very well do that, soccer started their season without any audience and if they can do that successfully without any positive cases among the players why not cricket.
If the delay is regarding the audience participation then we might not see any series, if that is not the main issue then cricket can resume just like the England West Indies series.

[akram143]

^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.

I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.

Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

I think all the South Asian country (Pakistan , India , Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) have some safety issue. but if government  military takes responsibility for the security of everyone then I think it is not impossible Sri Lanka can host the IPL.  on the other hand UAE is safer than others. BCCI can host IPL on UAE. Actually, I don't know why they talk about hosting IPL on Sri-Lanka instead of UAE.

I don't remember any international team refused to play in India due to security issue in the past 10 years but this still exists in Pakistan and other countries so India has no security issues for conducting the cricket but the issue is pandemic which is getting more worsen everyday in major cities where the cricket stadiums are primarily located.

[glowing10]

^ I don't think BCCI will be looking to host IPL in country like Sri Lanka because they have always security issues due to inside war causes so BCCI will choose UAE if possible. But I am not seeing any news regarding cricket in local media for too long, that's why I thought IPL 2020 has been completely cancelled.

I am sure you wake up after many years because now Sri Lanka is very safe country and no security issues they already done some very good improvements in many fields and BCCI is not going to face any issue regard this but right now no one is sure about this because all things going in limbo until we are not sure about twenty/20 world cup announcement.

Not really, you can see even in 2019 there was a bomb blast in Churches and Luxury hotels.Still there are riots between two communities in SL so I don't think many countries will never allow their players to play on that kind of place.

I think all the South Asian country (Pakistan , India , Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) have some safety issue. but if government  military takes responsibility for the security of everyone then I think it is not impossible Sri Lanka can host the IPL.  on the other hand UAE is safer than others. BCCI can host IPL on UAE. Actually, I don't know why they talk about hosting IPL on Sri-Lanka instead of UAE.

I don't remember any international team refused to play in India due to security issue in the past 10 years but this still exists in Pakistan and other countries so India has no security issues for conducting the cricket but the issue is pandemic which is getting more worsen everyday in major cities where the cricket stadiums are primarily located.

Never heard of any such issues with India, infact from IPL itself we can come to know that how much safety exists where all international players come for the event and participate in it. In some other countries there has being issues in the past and due to which there are few matches might be conducted or probably no matches might be held. Infact there are many cricket stadiums as well across many states.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I don't remember any international team refused to play in India due to security issue in the past 10 years but this still exists in Pakistan and other countries so India has no security issues for conducting the cricket but the issue is pandemic which is getting more worsen everyday in major cities where the cricket stadiums are primarily located.

I think the last major terrorist attack that has occurred in India was the 2017 Bhopal–Ujjain Passenger train bombing, which was claimed by the Islamic State (ISIS). The one before that was the 2013 Patna bombings. Isolated incidents occur every now and then, but then you can't make a nation of 1.35 billion free from crime and terrorism. Life goes on as usual, and along with that the IPL as well.

[ene1980]

I don't remember any international team refused to play in India due to security issue in the past 10 years but this still exists in Pakistan and other countries so India has no security issues for conducting the cricket but the issue is pandemic which is getting more worsen everyday in major cities where the cricket stadiums are primarily located.

I think the last major terrorist attack that has occurred in India was the 2017 Bhopal–Ujjain Passenger train bombing, which was claimed by the Islamic State (ISIS). The one before that was the 2013 Patna bombings. Isolated incidents occur every now and then, but then you can't make a nation of 1.35 billion free from crime and terrorism. Life goes on as usual, and along with that the IPL as well.

What are we talking about, the only reason we are not seeing any cricket is because of the pandemic and not because of any internal security concerns, from what i see from the outside perspective Pakistan and India does have their fair share of terrorist activities every now and then and there are internal conflicts as well but there was no attack against cricket from what i know. Coming to the present situation majority of the countries might not send their players to India for the IPL because of the pandemic and the situation in India is not getting better either.