2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Shamm]

Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

The Gin Kings have a long time to find a way to counter the defense of Bay Area Dragon. The Next game is January 4, so they have more than a week since the last game to figure out their counter strategy. The locals had a hard time scoring because of the hassle of the defense of the Bay Area Dragons. If they can set up a counter to the defense of the Dragons, the locals will be able to help Brownlee on the offensive side.

Exactly mate you are right ginebra have enough time to think and practice a good defense in order to counter the bay area dragons players cause what we saw in the game two they are struggling   to defense as we all know that bay area dragons have many tall players who can shoot outside and inside so without a doubt that ginebra will struggle but for sure nowadays after this new year eve they will practice harder and harder to give us a good matchup in game 3.

[jakelyson]

If you guys have trouble choosing the winner in game 3, then might as well try to bet on the total.

The last two games were low scoring game, so game 3 should be the same as this game is played with a very physical defense. IMO, the only chance the total will be over is when the game is close and it will went to overtime. However, for the sake of having fun, it's also nice if we bet on a certain team. 

Happy new year guys!

That is very good advice. If you did not mention it, I would not have recognized that line. I am always just betting on Moneyline or handicaps, so I do not usually check the over/under. With this information, I would skip the winner for now and just bet on under. Hopefully they continue to play this way and not try to have a shooting showdown next game.

Hesitation is always part of gambling, it's normal. After the game 1 win of the Ginebra, we thought that they will just easily win the series because non only they beat the Bay Area in game 1 but they also beat them during the regular season, so it's 2-0, but after game 2, we are now losing our faith on Ginebra because they are outplayed in game 2, come on guys, it's just one game, the series is still tied.

You are right, it is a series, and it is normal to have adjustments after each game. It is more like a chess match for the coaches of each team. I think before the series started, the majority are predicting a long series and hoping for a game 7. I think that is still the majority. I know I still believe this will be full series.

[Johnyz]

If you guys have trouble choosing the winner in game 3, then might as well try to bet on the total.

The last two games were low scoring game, so game 3 should be the same as this game is played with a very physical defense. IMO, the only chance the total will be over is when the game is close and it will went to overtime. However, for the sake of having fun, it's also nice if we bet on a certain team.  

Happy new year guys!

I’m actually considering this option now even if I think Bay Area will win in game 3 because Ginebra will also not let this to happen easily and for the past two games, they physically played the game and the score is not that high so betting on a total could be a good idea but I wonder if the odds is fine as well. Hard to think for game three, we all have different analysis here which makes it more hard for me to decide.

[chaser15]

If you guys have trouble choosing the winner in game 3, then might as well try to bet on the total.

The last two games were low scoring game, so game 3 should be the same as this game is played with a very physical defense. IMO, the only chance the total will be over is when the game is close and it will went to overtime.

Depends on the odds. Since you have mentioned that both Games 1 and 2 are low scoring, therefore odds on the below total might not be good to take a risk or bookies will surely adjust what will be put as a based point on Total scores.

But let's wait for the odds on that option if it's a good pick. No Sunday game and Game 3 will be on Wednesday.

For Ginebra bettors, go with Moneyline. For Dragons bettors, go with totals or handicaps.

[harizen]

Hesitation is always part of gambling, it's normal. After the game 1 win of the Ginebra, we thought that they will just easily win the series because non only they beat the Bay Area in game 1 but they also beat them during the regular season, so it's 2-0, but after game 2, we are now losing our faith on Ginebra because they are outplayed in game 2, come on guys, it's just one game, the series is still tied.

Seriously? Who are these people? Maybe just a wild guess?

I do bet on Ginebra to win the series but I didn't end up in a thought that Ginebra winning Game 1 will make the series an easy win for them. That was a crappy reference and basis if there are people who really think that.

And losing faith in Ginebra after losing in Game 2? Even let's say that I'm unable to bet on Ginebra in this series, I just found it nonsense that after the Dragons were able to dominate Ginebra in Game 2, that's already an automatic win for the Dragons to win the series.

Let's just watch how the game goes.

[goinmerry]

Not aware that no game for today because of busy activity lol.

Long rest for both teams and one thing is for sure, this long rest day will give them more time to become fully prepared next game.

I like to see these teams clashing in a close game. Expecting to see that next game.

[bisdak40]

Not aware that no game for today because of busy activity lol.

Long rest for both teams and one thing is for sure, this long rest day will give them more time to become fully prepared next game.

I like to see these teams clashing in a close game. Expecting to see that next game.

Yup, no game for today and it will resume on Wednesday, lots of time for them to rest and recover so we can expect them to have an explosive game 3.

For those who are willing, you are invited to join our free prediction contest in game 3.

Check the link below for details.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432455.msg61520952#msg61520952

[Russlenat]

Not aware that no game for today because of busy activity lol.

Long rest for both teams and one thing is for sure, this long rest day will give them more time to become fully prepared next game.

I like to see these teams clashing in a close game. Expecting to see that next game.

Yup, no game for today and it will resume on Wednesday, lots of time for them to rest and recover so we can expect them to have an explosive game 3.

For those who are willing, you are invited to join our free prediction contest in game 3.

Check the link below for details.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432455.msg61520952#msg61520952

Yup, there's plenty of time, we can wait for the betting odds in game 3, it should be a close one since the series is now tied. Bot teams are enjoying their vacation, but maybe they will start training tomorrow to prepare for game 3, we should not think that Bay Area will easily win, we will not see the same scenario in game 2.

[Fredomago]

Not aware that no game for today because of busy activity lol.

Long rest for both teams and one thing is for sure, this long rest day will give them more time to become fully prepared next game.

I like to see these teams clashing in a close game. Expecting to see that next game.

Yup, long rest will give both teams a good time to prepare, I also expecting a close match and not that comfortable lead when it's already in the final quarter, but instead, it's good to see both teams to have a good counter from time to time, adjustment over adjustment and keep the score close up to the last minute of the game.

Not aware that no game for today because of busy activity lol.

Long rest for both teams and one thing is for sure, this long rest day will give them more time to become fully prepared next game.

I like to see these teams clashing in a close game. Expecting to see that next game.

Yup, no game for today and it will resume on Wednesday, lots of time for them to rest and recover so we can expect them to have an explosive game 3.

For those who are willing, you are invited to join our free prediction contest in game 3.

Check the link below for details.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432455.msg61520952#msg61520952

Yup, there's plenty of time, we can wait for the betting odds in game 3, it should be a close one since the series is now tied. Bot teams are enjoying their vacation, but maybe they will start training tomorrow to prepare for game 3, we should not think that Bay Area will easily win, we will not see the same scenario in game 2.

Gin kings will adjust to how to counter that good run coming from the Bay Area. They need to protect the home crowd and take appropriate action with how Bay Area is playing now. I will expect not just Brownlee but all the players of Ginebra to bring again the best in them the same way they play in game one.

[Ziskinberg]

The challenge is on both teams because with this 1-1 record, it proved that both teams are capable of winning. The momentum now is on Bay Area, so we think that Ginebra is in trouble, but wait until Ginebra will win, views of the fans will also change.

The momentum is on the side of Bay Area Dragon but since it was a long break before the next game, I think the momentum is nullified. There is no real momentum yet. And Ginebra is not yet in trouble. It is a tied series, so anyone can still win. As for the fans, we all know who most of them are rooting for.

Everyone who are on the arena is probably rooting for Ginebra, if there are some who are not, they will just be silent as they don't want to be in trouble with the Ginebra fans. However, since Bay Area had proven it already, even without the fans, for sure they can still win again.

If only the betting odds are out already, I would probably put my bet already.

[Japinat]

This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.

Bay Area is not turning back though and they are not afraid, so the challenge here is really on the side of Ginebra.
There might be pressure from the fans but I hope Ginebra will start to compose themselves again and start to play well especially in game 3. Ginebra have to win on this finals to prove their supremacy in PBA but then again, there's no guarantee for this. This is the bad side of PBA, there is too much politics and yes even referees are not fair at all, so hopefully they will stay on the fair side even if Bay Area is on the lead.

The challenge is on both teams because with this 1-1 record, it proved that both teams are capable of winning. The momentum now is on Bay Area, so we think that Ginebra is in trouble, but wait until Ginebra will win, views of the fans will also change.

Forget about that momentum, these teams are professional, and they cannot be complacent even if they won the last game. The game 3 winner is not also guaranteed to win, unless they will win again in gam 4 where the series will be 3-1 which most of the time the team leading the 3-1 series will likely win the series.

Anyway, let's not talk about that yet, we still have game 3, let's see who will win and let's see if the series will be over in game 4.

[Distinctin]

Anyway, let's not talk about that yet, we still have game 3, let's see who will win and let's see if the series will be over in game 4.

Whoever wins game 3 will have a good feel for the rest of the playoffs. Imagine, getting a 2-1 lead and your team needs to be 2-3 behind to feel you are in trouble.  That's a luxury, and the kind of aggressiveness and confidence will be high for the winner, so game 3 is really important.

[blockman]

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

Yeah, they're the underdog for this finals but they've managed to get the first win and now, they're in a tie. The next game on Wednesday will give the advantage to whoever will win it. This is what I most like in a PBA final, everyone is taking care of themselves and despite injuries can't be gone in the entire series and games, still, most of them are doing their best to show the best that they can and at the same time, they're avoiding to be injured. Money's on the line, and we all want to see this 2-1 being led by Gins.

[ultrloa]

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

Yeah, they're the underdog for this finals but they've managed to get the first win and now, they're in a tie. The next game on Wednesday will give the advantage to whoever will win it. This is what I most like in a PBA final, everyone is taking care of themselves and despite injuries can't be gone in the entire series and games, still, most of them are doing their best to show the best that they can and at the same time, they're avoiding to be injured. Money's on the line, and we all want to see this 2-1 being led by Gins.

Gins got huge fan base on PBA so its expected that they got a lot of support from the fans also we can add up that many PBA fans want them to win since its like Philippines against foreign country. If they can beat up the Bay Area Dragons this is a huge pride for their organization since beating them is so difficult knowing how talented and tall their rooster are. They really need to avoid injuries since if one of their stars got that maybe this will lower down their chance to win the championship.

[Yamifoud]

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

Yeah, they're the underdog for this finals but they've managed to get the first win and now, they're in a tie. The next game on Wednesday will give the advantage to whoever will win it. This is what I most like in a PBA final, everyone is taking care of themselves and despite injuries can't be gone in the entire series and games, still, most of them are doing their best to show the best that they can and at the same time, they're avoiding to be injured. Money's on the line, and we all want to see this 2-1 being led by Gins.

Gins got huge fan base on PBA so its expected that they got a lot of support from the fans also we can add up that many PBA fans want them to win since its like Philippines against foreign country. If they can beat up the Bay Area Dragons this is a huge pride for their organization since beating them is so difficult knowing how talented and tall their rooster are. They really need to avoid injuries since if one of their stars got that maybe this will lower down their chance to win the championship.

Beating them in the series, yes. But even if they lose as long as this series will be competitive and will reach game 7, I think they will be happy already knowing they are up against a very good team. Some of us think that Ginebra will win all the way after this big 1st game win, but seem like things has already change now.

[blockman]

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

Yeah, they're the underdog for this finals but they've managed to get the first win and now, they're in a tie. The next game on Wednesday will give the advantage to whoever will win it. This is what I most like in a PBA final, everyone is taking care of themselves and despite injuries can't be gone in the entire series and games, still, most of them are doing their best to show the best that they can and at the same time, they're avoiding to be injured. Money's on the line, and we all want to see this 2-1 being led by Gins.

Gins got huge fan base on PBA so its expected that they got a lot of support from the fans also we can add up that many PBA fans want them to win since its like Philippines against foreign country. If they can beat up the Bay Area Dragons this is a huge pride for their organization since beating them is so difficult knowing how talented and tall their rooster are. They really need to avoid injuries since if one of their stars got that maybe this will lower down their chance to win the championship.

Yes, we're on our territory and all of us want to see them beat the Dragons. They are no doubt a strong guest team and if ever they win as the champs, this is part of the history already.
But, aside from that, we just wish the Gins to win against them so that we're not just being beaten up by a guest team. We just don't want to see it happen but if that does happens, then it's for the teams to upgrade and realize that there's more in their roster composition and there's a need for them to step up their game play.

[crzy]

Yes, we're on our territory and all of us want to see them beat the Dragons. They are no doubt a strong guest team and if ever they win as the champs, this is part of the history already.
But, aside from that, we just wish the Gins to win against them so that we're not just being beaten up by a guest team. We just don't want to see it happen but if that does happens, then it's for the teams to upgrade and realize that there's more in their roster composition and there's a need for them to step up their game play.

Ginebra have to do everything to make Pinoy very proud, this could be a big challenge for them but winning the championship are possible, they just have to be more consistent on the remaining game because Bay Area is not turning back as well as they are serious on taking their first title in PBA. Both teams are doing great so far, the fans are more excited to see them playing and of course Ginebra is the favorite. I think if Ginebra wins the championship other team should prepare more because Ginebra proves again to be the best team to beat.

[Botnake]

Yes, we're on our territory and all of us want to see them beat the Dragons. They are no doubt a strong guest team and if ever they win as the champs, this is part of the history already.
But, aside from that, we just wish the Gins to win against them so that we're not just being beaten up by a guest team. We just don't want to see it happen but if that does happens, then it's for the teams to upgrade and realize that there's more in their roster composition and there's a need for them to step up their game play.

Ginebra have to do everything to make Pinoy very proud, this could be a big challenge for them but winning the championship are possible, they just have to be more consistent on the remaining game because Bay Area is not turning back as well as they are serious on taking their first title in PBA. Both teams are doing great so far, the fans are more excited to see them playing and of course Ginebra is the favorite. I think if Ginebra wins the championship other team should prepare more because Ginebra proves again to be the best team to beat.

This is not just an ordinary league, you are right, they need to make the Filipinos proud as that would also raise the brand of basketball in the Philippines. Bay Area is such a talented team, but we have been here before when Gilas played in the international league, and Ginebra IMO have the weapon to win as most of the starters are all stars in the PBA.

[blockman]

Yes, we're on our territory and all of us want to see them beat the Dragons. They are no doubt a strong guest team and if ever they win as the champs, this is part of the history already.
But, aside from that, we just wish the Gins to win against them so that we're not just being beaten up by a guest team. We just don't want to see it happen but if that does happens, then it's for the teams to upgrade and realize that there's more in their roster composition and there's a need for them to step up their game play.

Ginebra have to do everything to make Pinoy very proud, this could be a big challenge for them but winning the championship are possible, they just have to be more consistent on the remaining game because Bay Area is not turning back as well as they are serious on taking their first title in PBA. Both teams are doing great so far, the fans are more excited to see them playing and of course Ginebra is the favorite. I think if Ginebra wins the championship other team should prepare more because Ginebra proves again to be the best team to beat.

They know that they're not just fighting for this championship but also fighting for pride. That's why they're going to do their best in the upcoming games.
They don't want to be dominated by a guest team that they've been conquering for so many years. But just as I've said, if ever Dragons will become the champs on this one, they should step up and upgrade their game plays and the same goes to the trading style of other teams which has just become a farm team.

[ultrloa]

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

Yeah, they're the underdog for this finals but they've managed to get the first win and now, they're in a tie. The next game on Wednesday will give the advantage to whoever will win it. This is what I most like in a PBA final, everyone is taking care of themselves and despite injuries can't be gone in the entire series and games, still, most of them are doing their best to show the best that they can and at the same time, they're avoiding to be injured. Money's on the line, and we all want to see this 2-1 being led by Gins.

Gins got huge fan base on PBA so its expected that they got a lot of support from the fans also we can add up that many PBA fans want them to win since its like Philippines against foreign country. If they can beat up the Bay Area Dragons this is a huge pride for their organization since beating them is so difficult knowing how talented and tall their rooster are. They really need to avoid injuries since if one of their stars got that maybe this will lower down their chance to win the championship.

Beating them in the series, yes. But even if they lose as long as this series will be competitive and will reach game 7, I think they will be happy already knowing they are up against a very good team. Some of us think that Ginebra will win all the way after this big 1st game win, but seem like things has already change now.

As what I observe for past championship championship series is always stretch for game 6 or 7 maybe because the organization always after for money. That's why I'm not surprised if that one will happen and I'm curious if Ginebra can beat the Dragons on finals since this can bring pride to the local league. Fans are already happy to see Ginebra win on game one so hopefully they are consistent with that and to get more wins against the Dragons to take advantage with them.