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December 01, 2022, 01:42:49 PM
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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.
Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.
Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.

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December 01, 2022, 01:59:29 PM
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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.
Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.
Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.
In practical life, all we can say is that Romeo given lesser time before and that 20 big points for sure he can not make that happen as we all knoww that there are many pro players that suites his position and make the team better and for now yes you are right maybe Romeo can't not shine for this match but the main thing here is that how SMB win against meralco cause we all know that meralco nowadays is very competitive and they have a good line up as well.

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December 01, 2022, 05:54:19 PM
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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Romeo will disrupt the chemistry that San Miguel has right now. Romeo did not play for a long time, and if he starts playing now, he will be disrupting the chemistry San Miguel has.

Romeo's play has a lot of iso / hero ball which destroy the rotation of the ball. Maybe, they can play him for a few minutes first, to get the rust he accumulated on the sideline. That will give his teammates chance to get to upspeed on how he play and also give Romeo a chance to feel the game before the gets a lot of minutes again.

We are now in a crucial part of the conference but San Miguel needs win because they lost a lot when June Mar was out. In order to get that wins, they do not need anything that could disrupt their established play by inserting Romeo in the mix. Romeo will not be able to score a lot yet coming from a long vacation in basketball, so it is best he is given the least minutes for now. He can be full-time in the next conference. Not disrespecting Romeo, but it is what the team needs right now.
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December 01, 2022, 08:37:28 PM
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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.
Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.
Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.


It is interesting since both teams are aiming to win, Romeo's debut will add the fun to the fans especially for us who loves seeing him playing alongside with his teammates, nothing can predict if how impacting his debut for the team, I like to point also that long absence inside the court may affect his judgement, but on the other side, he was clear by the doctors and beside that, even he is on the injury list he still watching or participating with the team practice.

He still has that knowledge with the system that they will be using. I just like to see him playing whether he will perform the same or if there's a big difference since he came from an injury and with those dramas in his personal life.

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December 01, 2022, 09:07:52 PM
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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.
Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.
Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.
This is a crucial game for them and yes they have to beat Meralco and probably SMB is expecting a help from Romeo though for sure he will play with lesser minute in the court because he is still not 100%. As a fan of Romeo before, its good to see him back and its always good to see injured players rise again and play their sports again. With this, planning to have some bet with SMB if the odds is good.

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December 01, 2022, 11:51:12 PM
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We are now in a crucial part of the conference but San Miguel needs win because they lost a lot when June Mar was out. In order to get that wins, they do not need anything that could disrupt their established play by inserting Romeo in the mix. Romeo will not be able to score a lot yet coming from a long vacation in basketball, so it is best he is given the least minutes for now. He can be full-time in the next conference. Not disrespecting Romeo, but it is what the team needs right now.

Much better to activate Romeo in the semis if they can make it. At least in the semis, there are a series of games where Romeo can do some adjustments unlike in a few game series in the Quarterfinals. I understand your point that activating Romeo right now might destroy their current momentum. It's different in Fajardo's case since The Kraken is not a playmaker while Romeo shares the role of some of the key guards of the SMB right now.

And according to some reports, if Romeo will be activated, Coach Leo Austria will remain on the sideline and he will allow his deputy coach George Gallent to take over since according to Coach Leo, he doesn't want to destroy the momentum between Romeo and Gallent. Honestly, it doesn't make sense to me.

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December 02, 2022, 02:27:09 AM
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We are now in a crucial part of the conference but San Miguel needs win because they lost a lot when June Mar was out. In order to get that wins, they do not need anything that could disrupt their established play by inserting Romeo in the mix. Romeo will not be able to score a lot yet coming from a long vacation in basketball, so it is best he is given the least minutes for now. He can be full-time in the next conference. Not disrespecting Romeo, but it is what the team needs right now.

Much better to activate Romeo in the semis if they can make it. At least in the semis, there are a series of games where Romeo can do some adjustments unlike in a few game series in the Quarterfinals. I understand your point that activating Romeo right now might destroy their current momentum. It's different in Fajardo's case since The Kraken is not a playmaker while Romeo shares the role of some of the key guards of the SMB right now.

And according to some reports, if Romeo will be activated, Coach Leo Austria will remain on the sideline and he will allow his deputy coach George Gallent to take over since according to Coach Leo, he doesn't want to destroy the momentum between Romeo and Gallent. Honestly, it doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe there is a chemistry built between Romeo and Gallent whenever they are practicing. I don't know as well what Coach Leo means with that phrase "destroy the momentum between the two". Well either way, they already got a spot in the playoffs so putting his deputy coach on the driver seat and giving him an opportunity is also good for the team.

With regards to Romeo playing against Meralco, they already secured the 5th spot and will face Meralco regardless of what happen, so I think putting Romeo to the court to play for a few minutes doesn't hurt the team as a whole. They will just let him play a few minutes in preparation for him during the playoffs. Fajardo and Romeo's situation are completely different. I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

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December 02, 2022, 04:55:56 AM
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I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

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December 02, 2022, 05:08:10 AM
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I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

I will agree with you on that one because SMB can't be underestimated in the playoffs since that's their favorite situation in the PBA season. Romeo will undoubtedly bring some energy and with JMF back in the lineup, he will be a big problem inside especially if he will be playing close to 100% soon.

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December 02, 2022, 08:04:49 AM
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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

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I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

I will agree with you on that one because SMB can't be underestimated in the playoffs since that's their favorite situation in the PBA season. Romeo will undoubtedly bring some energy and with JMF back in the lineup, he will be a big problem inside especially if he will be playing close to 100% soon.

SMB indeed win despite Fajardo and Romeo only played with limited minutes, JMF only contributed 9 points, so different compared to his usual numbers when he is 100% healthy. It's still a big win by SMB although it looks very controversial.  Grin

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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.



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SMB indeed win despite Fajardo and Romeo only played with limited minutes, JMF only contributed 9 points, so different compared to his usual numbers when he is 100% healthy. It's still a big win by SMB although it looks very controversial.  Grin

The first half ended with SMB in the lead by 20 points and when I checked in the last minute of the game, that lead was eradicated by Meralco. 30 seconds left in the game and SMB was just leading by 3 points. I did not watch the second half so I was surprised to see that it was a close game in the end. SMB did not take good care of their lead and the win was almost snatched by Meralco.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.


That is his game. He is a volume shooter and if he gets lucky, those shots will fall. But if not, this is the result, a very low shooting percentage. He just got back in the game from a very long rest due to injury, it is expected that it will take some time before he gets back into good shooting form. The limited minutes are proof that SMB is slowly getting him back into the game. When his full minutes are back, we will see a better result from Romeo.
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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
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It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

Whether it's a no bearing game or an important game, refs did really missed making the right call, so I understand why people are talking about that game. I don't know the point spread, but if that ball was given to Meralco, they have the last position to tie the game.

Anyway, that's over and we should not be surprise as this is PBA where miss calls happens. LOL
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December 02, 2022, 05:57:27 PM
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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

Whether it's a no bearing game or an important game, refs did really missed making the right call, so I understand why people are talking about that game. I don't know the point spread, but if that ball was given to Meralco, they have the last position to tie the game.

Anyway, that's over and we should not be surprise as this is PBA where miss calls happens. LOL


Replay tells it all and even I'm a SMB fan ref still need to call the right decision with that violation, it's a clear missed call after watching the replay, though it's done and nothing can be change now but it will bring more doubts about how the ref handling this league, those who are betting for Meralco or for the handicap are surely disappointed since Meralco can tie the game if being permitted with the right call.

Moving forward, SMB is now moving and will try to defend their title. If Romeo and Fajardo will play healthy on their next following games, it will be a tough match up for converse.

We know how both Romeo and Fajardo once they start making their usual productions. The big factor here is how converge import will bring his squad competing with a tough caliber and defending champ from this conference.

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December 02, 2022, 09:29:03 PM
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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
As expected with Romeo, he still finding his rhythm back and having 12 points for 16 minutes of playing was already a great contribution to the team. That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees, anyway SMB already secured a spot for the next spot and for sure they will work hard to advance into semis, now that Romeo and JMF is slowly getting better.

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December 02, 2022, 10:12:50 PM
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That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.

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December 03, 2022, 07:52:20 AM
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That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.

If they are serious about giving them a punishment, they should not forget that it should be added to their employee's files to see if they are really doing their job. We can understand if it happened a few times only but if it will happen many times, then we should question the credibility of the refs or worst the league itself.

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December 03, 2022, 02:13:30 PM
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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

Whether it's a no bearing game or an important game, refs did really missed making the right call, so I understand why people are talking about that game. I don't know the point spread, but if that ball was given to Meralco, they have the last position to tie the game.

Anyway, that's over and we should not be surprise as this is PBA where miss calls happens. LOL


Replay tells it all and even I'm a SMB fan ref still need to call the right decision with that violation, it's a clear missed call after watching the replay, though it's done and nothing can be change now but it will bring more doubts about how the ref handling this league, those who are betting for Meralco or for the handicap are surely disappointed since Meralco can tie the game if being permitted with the right call.

Moving forward, SMB is now moving and will try to defend their title. If Romeo and Fajardo will play healthy on their next following games, it will be a tough match up for converse.

We know how both Romeo and Fajardo once they start making their usual productions. The big factor here is how converge import will bring his squad competing with a tough caliber and defending champ from this conference.

SMB has Romeo now, and they will only be better, and with Fajardo back already, that will add more confidence to the team. Though they are not on top of the ranking, I think they are still the team to beat. Of course, Ginebra has Brownlee who had lots of success in the playoffs but this time it's going to be different, SMB won't win the championship because SMB will ruin their plan.
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