2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[arwin100]

It isn't a sad news because they knew it from the start that there will be only one naturalized player that can play for each team.
2 is better than 1 like they always say, and Clarkson isn't always available since he's also playing in the NBA so we will expect some conflict of schedules, so a secondary naturalized player like Brownlee

Yes of course, but if they can both play the better, hehe.. anyway, our naturalized player will not be tired because we have two and they are both ready to represent our country anytime. I already saw Clarkson played with Gilas but have not seen Brownlee yet, so I'm excited to see and have the comparison of their performances.

Brownlee will serve as good backup since JC is not always available unless he will show his interest playing then Brownlee will give him the spot, for now, we will check if how brownlee will impact the nationals, gilas is alredy forming their solid combination, adding brownlee to tha squad will give them extra offensive threat.

We will only see if what addition can he provide once the game starts for FIBA competition.

Brownlee could play in the FIBA ASIA while JC will play in the FIBA world. I guess most of the international competition, it will be Brownlee that has more available time than JC because he is an NBA player and they have a long season. Anyway, it doesn't matter though, both players are great and they are loved by the Filipino Fans.

Yes you are right that mate once they added Justin brownlee for the team Gillas Pilipinas then it will makes the team more stronger than before and also it's a good option for the team as we all know that Jordan Clarkson currently playing in NBA which is they have longer season and Jordan Clarkson sometimes can not play in Gillas once his team has a sched to play. And Brownlee must fullfil the needs of Gillas pilipinas team.

To many conflicts for Jordan Clarkson so the best option they could take is Justin Brownlee since he's also a good contributor which we already see in PBA. For sure eventhough Clarkson is not around for sure they can rely on his skills so hopefully Brownlee can submit all things needed so that Gilas can get good help and their campaign will became more exciting. Also hopefully they will not insert the Ravena brothers since this could ruin their rotations.

[LogitechMouse]

It isn't a sad news because they knew it from the start that there will be only one naturalized player that can play for each team.
2 is better than 1 like they always say, and Clarkson isn't always available since he's also playing in the NBA so we will expect some conflict of schedules, so a secondary naturalized player like Brownlee

Yes of course, but if they can both play the better, hehe.. anyway, our naturalized player will not be tired because we have two and they are both ready to represent our country anytime. I already saw Clarkson played with Gilas but have not seen Brownlee yet, so I'm excited to see and have the comparison of their performances.

Brownlee will serve as good backup since JC is not always available unless he will show his interest playing then Brownlee will give him the spot, for now, we will check if how brownlee will impact the nationals, gilas is alredy forming their solid combination, adding brownlee to tha squad will give them extra offensive threat.

We will only see if what addition can he provide once the game starts for FIBA competition.

Brownlee could play in the FIBA ASIA while JC will play in the FIBA world. I guess most of the international competition, it will be Brownlee that has more available time than JC because he is an NBA player and they have a long season. Anyway, it doesn't matter though, both players are great and they are loved by the Filipino Fans.

You know the PH fans when it comes to basketball. If they like a basketball player, they will be loved so much that even the player himself will be grateful to it. That's how we PH fans are when we like a player. Just look how we are seeing Brownlee and Clarkson right now. Even Blatche was loved by the PH fans and now, Prosper is the one who got the attention of PH fans. More to come.

Brownlee has more time than Clarkson, but it will still depend. I don't know if it's possible, but can a naturalized Filipino player still play outside PH and sign a contract with other teams other than PH?

[harizen]

Honestly, if only Jordan Clarkson was recognized as PH local under FIBA rules, that's a great boost to the National Team since we can see him playing alongside our chosen Naturalized player. PH should now rush to officially grant Justin Brownlee to be the naturalized player for the national team to prepare for the next window games.

If PH successfully wins their next window games, Jordan Clarkson will be suited up for the FIBA World Cup next year.

For others that are not aware, the FIBA World Cup is always held when NBA is on break. Only the game qualifiers are being conflicted with the schedule.

[bisdak40]

Honestly, if only Jordan Clarkson was recognized as PH local under FIBA rules, that's a great boost to the National Team since we can see him playing alongside our chosen Naturalized player. PH should now rush to officially grant Justin Brownlee to be the naturalized player for the national team to prepare for the next window games.

If PH successfully wins their next window games, Jordan Clarkson will be suited up for the FIBA World Cup next year.

For others that are not aware, the FIBA World Cup is always held when NBA is on break. Only the game qualifiers are being conflicted with the schedule.

Agree, he and the one chosen as the naturalized player could be a great boost to the team. Justin Brownlee will be there playing window games and as a backup, if ever Jordan Clarkson won't suit up in FIBA23 due to other reasons as NBA is on a break during that time.

Win or lose on our next window games, we still qualify or PH has already a slot to the FIBA'23 as the co-host of that event along with Japan and Indonesia if I'm not mistaken so window games are just a form of tune-up games for the PH squad this time around.

TBH, even if Jordan Clarkson and Brownlee will play alongside each other on the FIBA'23, we will still be having a hard time winning games in that big tournament.

[Fredomago]

Honestly, if only Jordan Clarkson was recognized as PH local under FIBA rules, that's a great boost to the National Team since we can see him playing alongside our chosen Naturalized player. PH should now rush to officially grant Justin Brownlee to be the naturalized player for the national team to prepare for the next window games.

If PH successfully wins their next window games, Jordan Clarkson will be suited up for the FIBA World Cup next year.

For others that are not aware, the FIBA World Cup is always held when NBA is on break. Only the game qualifiers are being conflicted with the schedule.

Agree, he and the one chosen as the naturalized player could be a great boost to the team. Justin Brownlee will be there playing window games and as a backup, if ever Jordan Clarkson won't suit up in FIBA23 due to other reasons as NBA is on a break during that time.

Win or lose on our next window games, we still qualify or PH has already a slot to the FIBA'23 as the co-host of that event along with Japan and Indonesia if I'm not mistaken so window games are just a form of tune-up games for the PH squad this time around.

TBH, even if Jordan Clarkson and Brownlee will play alongside each other on the FIBA'23, we will still be having a hard time winning games in that big tournament.

I agree that we will still have a hard time winning but it will be more competitive if both will play, the chances of winning is better compared to only one of them playing, but there's nothing we can do now since JC was recognized as naturalized and not as legit Pinoy blooded player.

We will see what's the outcome is when the game start. If the team will continue playing the way it was the last time. The chance is there for our Nationals.

[Kelvinid]

TBH, even if Jordan Clarkson and Brownlee will play alongside each other on the FIBA'23, we will still be having a hard time winning games in that big tournament.

I definitely agree with that but at least our team will be more competitive, I'm not expecting they'll win most games but watching them give their opponent a hard time, would already make the fans happy. I now remember the old Gilas with TR47, they don't win most games but they are fun to watch.

[Sanitough]

Looks like NLEX will have a chance of breaking their losing streak tonight, the game against the Ginebra now goes to OT and NLEX are leading by 3 points with 3 minutes left in the game, if they will handle the ball well and make some effective plays, they might upset the heavy favorite here.

[Hypnosis00]

Looks like NLEX will have a chance of breaking their losing streak tonight, the game against the Ginebra now goes to OT and NLEX are leading by 3 points with 3 minutes left in the game, if they will handle the ball well and make some effective plays, they might upset the heavy favorite here.

I'm not watching the game now but it looks like they already won the game.

Based on the play-by-play record, the score is 120-117 in favor of the NLEX.
https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Brownlee had 39 points but Clark had a great game as well with 37 points, and Trollano contributed 26 points from the local.

[arwin100]

TBH, even if Jordan Clarkson and Brownlee will play alongside each other on the FIBA'23, we will still be having a hard time winning games in that big tournament.

I definitely agree with that but at least our team will be more competitive, I'm not expecting they'll win most games but watching them give their opponent a hard time, would already make the fans happy. I now remember the old Gilas with TR47, they don't win most games but they are fun to watch.

Basketball program in other country is so advance while in Philippines they seems stuck with the old system so its nor surprising at all that they will lose on big games knowing that they are so underdog on that tournament. But at least the experience is so good and we can see our flag been raised battling on sports which is number 1 love by Filipinos so for sure even we know that they will lose on power house country still the excitement of fans still there because many are curious to know if they can defeat or make the life of Nba stars hard in the court.

[Kelvinid]

TBH, even if Jordan Clarkson and Brownlee will play alongside each other on the FIBA'23, we will still be having a hard time winning games in that big tournament.

I definitely agree with that but at least our team will be more competitive, I'm not expecting they'll win most games but watching them give their opponent a hard time, would already make the fans happy. I now remember the old Gilas with TR47, they don't win most games but they are fun to watch.

Basketball program in other country is so advance while in Philippines they seems stuck with the old system so its nor surprising at all that they will lose on big games knowing that they are so underdog on that tournament. But at least the experience is so good and we can see our flag been raised battling on sports which is number 1 love by Filipinos so for sure even we know that they will lose on power house country still the excitement of fans still there because many are curious to know if they can defeat or make the life of Nba stars hard in the court.

I think that's not the case, what I believe the problem is our height because if you look at the international games, you can tell the height average of other nations are taller than ours, so with their physicality, we can never beat them.

[Questat]

Looks like NLEX will have a chance of breaking their losing streak tonight, the game against the Ginebra now goes to OT and NLEX are leading by 3 points with 3 minutes left in the game, if they will handle the ball well and make some effective plays, they might upset the heavy favorite here.

I'm not watching the game now but it looks like they already won the game.

Based on the play-by-play record, the score is 120-117 in favor of the NLEX.
https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Brownlee had 39 points but Clark had a great game as well with 37 points, and Trollano contributed 26 points from the local.

I would say it's a huge win by NLEX. Never though a good team like Ginebra will be beaten by a struggling NLEX team. Ginebra seemed to be a very unpredictable now, you can't rely them against a weak team but you can trust them against a good team, I guess I'll just follow that trend for me to be profitable in betting. 

[LogitechMouse]

Looks like NLEX will have a chance of breaking their losing streak tonight, the game against the Ginebra now goes to OT and NLEX are leading by 3 points with 3 minutes left in the game, if they will handle the ball well and make some effective plays, they might upset the heavy favorite here.

I'm not watching the game now but it looks like they already won the game.

Based on the play-by-play record, the score is 120-117 in favor of the NLEX.
https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Brownlee had 39 points but Clark had a great game as well with 37 points, and Trollano contributed 26 points from the local.

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

I've been watching PBA for quite some time already and it's my first-time seeing MVP teams out of the playoffs. I mean I'm always watching playoffs where both SMC and MVP teams are playing, but now it's different. SMC are on the playoffs while the MVP teams are out. This conference really is different especially for those independent teams as some of them might enter the playoffs. Well, we still have a few games left and every win and lose are important for all of the teams who are still competing for the playoff spot.

With the Blackwater's loss against the ROS tonight, they are officially eliminated this conference along with TerraFirma.

[Sanitough]

Looks like NLEX will have a chance of breaking their losing streak tonight, the game against the Ginebra now goes to OT and NLEX are leading by 3 points with 3 minutes left in the game, if they will handle the ball well and make some effective plays, they might upset the heavy favorite here.

I'm not watching the game now but it looks like they already won the game.

Based on the play-by-play record, the score is 120-117 in favor of the NLEX.
https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Brownlee had 39 points but Clark had a great game as well with 37 points, and Trollano contributed 26 points from the local.

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

I've been watching PBA for quite some time already and it's my first-time seeing MVP teams out of the playoffs. I mean I'm always watching playoffs where both SMC and MVP teams are playing, but now it's different. SMC are on the playoffs while the MVP teams are out. This conference really is different especially for those independent teams as some of them might enter the playoffs. Well, we still have a few games left and every win and lose are important for all of the teams who are still competing for the playoff spot.

With the Blackwater's loss against the ROS tonight, they are officially eliminated this conference along with TerraFirma.

SMC always has the better teams but this is far from over yet. We have Meralco which has a better conference now compared to the TNT, so they'll likely to be a threat to SMC teams. Well, of course, we have Bay Dragons who are at the number 1 spot, they are also a team to beat but since Ginebra had already beat them, then I think they could also be eliminated and will not reach the finals if they'll meet Ginebra in the Semi's.

[jakelyson]

TBH, even if Jordan Clarkson and Brownlee will play alongside each other on the FIBA'23, we will still be having a hard time winning games in that big tournament.

I definitely agree with that but at least our team will be more competitive, I'm not expecting they'll win most games but watching them give their opponent a hard time, would already make the fans happy. I now remember the old Gilas with TR47, they don't win most games but they are fun to watch.

Basketball program in other country is so advance while in Philippines they seems stuck with the old system so its nor surprising at all that they will lose on big games knowing that they are so underdog on that tournament. But at least the experience is so good and we can see our flag been raised battling on sports which is number 1 love by Filipinos so for sure even we know that they will lose on power house country still the excitement of fans still there because many are curious to know if they can defeat or make the life of Nba stars hard in the court.

I think that's not the case, what I believe the problem is our height because if you look at the international games, you can tell the height average of other nations are taller than ours, so with their physicality, we can never beat them.

It is the combination of a lot of things. We are not naturally equipped for basketball because of our height but we are slowly getting taller. We have a lot of natural Filipinos that have grown past 7 feet over the years. There is a lack of government support and programs that will train our athletes from grassroots to be competitive enough to be able to compete abroad. Our game style also needs improving and updating.

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

I wonder why would they target the #1 seeded team for the semis? Isn't it better if they avoid that team until the finals. Yes, they beat the dragons in their match but that is just one game. It will be different when it is in a series.

[harizen]

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

Ginebra can still seal the twice-to-beat advantage:

- if they will win all of their remaining games (against Northport, Nov. 27 and Converge, Nov. 30)
- if Magnolia Hotshots will lose their last elimination games (against Meralco, Nov. 27 and Rain or Shine, Dec. 2)

With these remaining games, for me, Ginebra vs Converge will be the most interesting match here.

[Ziskinberg]

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

Ginebra can still seal the twice-to-beat advantage:

- if they will win all of their remaining games (against Northport, Nov. 27 and Converge, Nov. 30)
- if Magnolia Hotshots will lose their last elimination games (against Meralco, Nov. 27 and Rain or Shine, Dec. 2)

With these remaining games, for me, Ginebra vs Converge will be the most interesting match here.

Magnolia might lose against Meralco but I doubt they'll lose against ROS, so most likely Ginebra won't be able to get that twice to beat advantage. Well, Ginebra vs Converge, this should be a good one but I'll always believe that Ginebra will be able to handle it as they always bounce back.

[Russlenat]

We have two games today but the first game which will be this 4:30 PM is not that interesting to watch, so let's proceed to the last game which is the battle of Beermen vs TNT.

Based on ML odds, we have SMB 1.61 and TNT 2.32.
Nice odds, I guess SMB takers will not hesitate betting on that odds. At my bookie, I could get a max of 1.67 with a price boost.

[Japinat]

We have two games today but the first game which will be this 4:30 PM is not that interesting to watch, so let's proceed to the last game which is the battle of Beermen vs TNT.

If you bet on Phoenix spread then you might find this game interesting because Phoenix is currently leading with 11 points.
I wouldn't be surprise if Phoenix will have a blowout win after this.

Based on ML odds, we have SMB 1.61 and TNT 2.32.
Nice odds, I guess SMB takers will not hesitate betting on that odds. At my bookie, I could get a max of 1.67 with a price boost.

It's still unpredictable even though SMB is the favorite because TNT is also a great team, they may have struggled in their past games but they can always comeback with a good win. By the way, TNT is on a 3 losing streak, I don't know but I have a feeling they will play harder to win.

[Yamifoud]

We have two games today but the first game which will be this 4:30 PM is not that interesting to watch, so let's proceed to the last game which is the battle of Beermen vs TNT.

If you bet on Phoenix spread then you might find this game interesting because Phoenix is currently leading with 11 points.
I wouldn't be surprise if Phoenix will have a blowout win after this.

Seems like you are right, no chance for a comeback here because Phoenix already had a decent lead.
The score now is 62 - 25 with less than 2 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, look what kind of offense the DYIP has, that's very low for almost 2 quarters.

[LogitechMouse]

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

I wonder why would they target the #1 seeded team for the semis? Isn't it better if they avoid that team until the finals. Yes, they beat the dragons in their match but that is just one game. It will be different when it is in a series.

Ginebra defeated them so they know what to do to defeat them again. Well, that's only my prediction and it's a rumor only that's being spread on Facebook. The only difference now is that, when the Dragons lost, they got Nicholson as their import but now, they have Powell already and nobody, I mean nobody can stop that scoring machine. I doubt that somebody from Ginebra can stop that monster from scoring 30+ points if they meet on the playoffs. Maybe the referees can. Ooops!!

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

Ginebra can still seal the twice-to-beat advantage:

- if they will win all of their remaining games (against Northport, Nov. 27 and Converge, Nov. 30)
- if Magnolia Hotshots will lose their last elimination games (against Meralco, Nov. 27 and Rain or Shine, Dec. 2)

With these remaining games, for me, Ginebra vs Converge will be the most interesting match here.

I'll make a prediction base on that 2 scenarios.
-Ginebra might win against NorthPort even though the Batang Pier is on a 3-game winning streak but against Converge, if Miller will play, they might have a difficult time beating them.
-Magnolia has a high chance that they will beat Rain or Shine. Meralco Vs. Magnolia is an interesting match-up as well because Meralco is on a winning streak right now with McDaniels as their current import.

With the 4 games that you shared; I'm also waiting for the Ginebra-Converge match-up because that game will be big for the 2 teams. It will be on the 30th and I'll watch that game for sure.