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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
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December 23, 2022, 09:07:14 PM
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I really not referring to Ginebra's win on eliminations as a basis that they have an edge over the Dragons in this series. Since the Bay Area Dragons already played against a full complete lineup of Ginebra, expect that some adjustments will be made by them.

Since everyone is Ginebra including me, anyone likes to have a local betting here where we will predict what game Ginebra/Dragons will close the series?

Game 4 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 5 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 6 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 7 Ginebra/Dragons

The winner/s takes all. The prizes though might not be satisfying so a low bet will do. For example, If 4 players choose Game 6 and only a few bets on other games, no choice but to divide the take-all money even if it's smaller than their bets.

Any adjustments on this rule or this plan of mine suck as shit. lol. But since Game 1 will be on Sunday, not much time left to organize this.

This makes sense since no one here wants to back up the Dragons. Let's see if there are others willing to bet. If this push through I would like to bet on Game 7. I believe the two teams are equally matched and this series will take the distance.

Will the Dragons rely on threes? I believe they will because they have good three-point shooters but on the other hand, if threes aren't going in for them, they will lose. As for Nicholson, he will always find a way to score. He scored only 28 points when these 2 teams matched up, but I'm pretty sure the Dragons want some revenge since Ginebra is the one who gave them their first loss.

The Bay Area Dragons have great cutters and good centers who can score in the paint. I am sure their entire offense is not fully relying on 3-point shots. If they get shot down from beyond the arc, then they have to find ways to score in the paint or perimeter.
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December 23, 2022, 09:13:01 PM
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Honestly, I find the Bay Area Dragons vulnerable to losing because they rely so much on their 3 point shooting. Nicholson won't be able to drop huge numbers if he will be limited in the 3 point line because Ginebra have two bigs (Aguilar and C. Stand) to limit him by frustrating him. Look what happened to the Magnolia import, he was suppose to be a great import but he was ineffective in the semi Finals.
Both teams are vulnerable to losing, they both have their own weaknesses and if they really want to get this championship they should address that issue and do better for their coming games. Bay Area are indeed good on their shooting, now if Ginebra is able to control that and limit them with their threes for sure, Bay Area will adjust accordingly. This match up are very exciting, can’t wait to see them playing this Christmas.
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December 23, 2022, 09:50:12 PM
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Yes, you are right that mate let's get forward, observe and place our bet on our favorite team.  This upcoming December 25 which is Christmas day the final two teams will duel and this is a very interesting one it because we all know how tough the Bay Area Dragon is and the main question here is that can The king of take down the foreign team or Bay Area will get that trophy. But in ginebra they must take this game serious.


That is a treat for basketball fans on Christmas day. Two great teams facing each other in Game one of the Commissioner's cup finals. This will be exciting. Ginebra has proven that they can beat Bay Area Dragons when they met in the elimination round. And the Bay Area Dragons proved they can adjust easily against any opponents, and they do not give up easily. They are patient and very disciplined in their game. This is a good Christmas game.

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.
For sure this is a good matchup and like what you said mate ginebra beat dragons before in elimination round so in this final they have a big percentage of winning and this is a good choice for the SMB franchise that Ginebra will face dragons in the final. Cause this team have already the chemistry all they need is to have a good plan how to counter the offense of Bay area which little bit hard for them as we all know that all bigman of bay area can play outside shoot so they need to handle this in order to defeat bay area .

Ginebra also have those bigs who can match with Dragons tall shooters, they can compete and they have that capabilities to beat the visiting team, it's the system from both coaches and the executions coming from the players who are inside the court, we will see how mental and physically fit the home crowd favorite as they will be tested to protect the pride of our country.

Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!

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December 23, 2022, 10:56:08 PM
 #10124

Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
That's what I'm thinking, Sunday + Christmas day + bonus of people have been taken then for sure the basketball and Ginebra fans will book tickets. AFAIK, it's already sold out just 5 minutes after its publishing a few days ago, maybe just the scalper things.
It's a tour for some friends and family going to the venue and then watch some live action and as a start of the finals.

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December 23, 2022, 11:57:49 PM
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Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
That's what I'm thinking, Sunday + Christmas day + bonus of people have been taken then for sure the basketball and Ginebra fans will book tickets. AFAIK, it's already sold out just 5 minutes after its publishing a few days ago, maybe just the scalper things.
It's a tour for some friends and family going to the venue and then watch some live action and as a start of the finals.

A perfect bonding for friends and family, right? It's ginebra and the magnet that it will create for the fans, that's something that we all anticipated, a good market for PBA and an expected high revenue series, we might expect a good game 7 do-or-die game right? I will not conclude yet, but for the matchup is capable of both teams to push and force the series to the maximum limit.

Entertainment wise, that's for the value of money and for the fans enjoyment, as long as there is no problem with any ref/official calls
then it will be a good series to watch out.

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December 24, 2022, 01:34:28 AM
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Since no betting has been made yet on the Finals, let me propose this one....

I'll be betting for Bay Area Dragons for only 3K php but i'll be picking my opponents.

bisdak40 1k php vs Maslate 1k php
bisdak40 1k php vs harizen 1k php
bisdak40 1k vs Huh??

@harizen and Maslate please confirm if you are biting the proposal hehe, not final until you confirm this.

Third opponent is still open, to those who will bet for Ginebra and want to bet for them, please comment...

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December 24, 2022, 07:03:25 AM
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Confirmed.. If no one will take that available 1k, you can add tha to mine.  Grin

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December 24, 2022, 08:42:59 AM
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Confirmed.. If no one will take that available 1k, you can add tha to mine.  Grin

Hey bro, sending you a PM. I will take that 1k of yours and I will put my bet on the Bay Area Dragon to win. This is just for fun, so we will have fun watching the PBA Finals. Also, I think it's better if we have a betting in our local too, like a games and rounds concept, it would be fun if one will host.
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December 24, 2022, 09:32:38 AM
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Confirmed.. If no one will take that available 1k, you can add tha to mine.  Grin

Hey bro, sending you a PM. I will take that 1k of yours and I will put my bet on the Bay Area Dragon to win. This is just for fun, so we will have fun watching the PBA Finals. Also, I think it's better if we have a betting in our local too, like a games and rounds concept, it would be fun if one will host.

I will certainly participate on that if someone will host, it's Christmas, so it's a easy of giving, hehe. come on guys... Those who have some budget, please do have some competition in our local board. By the way, we should look at the betting odds tonight as I think it will be up hours from now.

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December 24, 2022, 11:28:22 AM
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Betting odds are now available.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-commissioner-cup/matches


What are you waiting for? Pound that Moneyline now because that attractive odds will be gone because I'm pretty sure bettors will take the ML.
Brownlee will surely play, so I guess Ginebra is underrated.

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December 24, 2022, 12:10:51 PM
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Betting odds are now available.

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What are you waiting for? Pound that Moneyline now because that attractive odds will be gone because I'm pretty sure bettors will take the ML.
Brownlee will surely play, so I guess Ginebra is underrated.

Thanks for sharing it early, the earlier we bet the better. On sportsbet, there's no spread with 1.90 odds, so I have to check on other betting sites like stake and the spread is +3.5 for Ginebra and the Moneyline is only 2.23, way lower compared to the odds from sportsbet.

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December 24, 2022, 01:46:19 PM
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Betting odds are now available.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-commissioner-cup/matches


What are you waiting for? Pound that Moneyline now because that attractive odds will be gone because I'm pretty sure bettors will take the ML.
Brownlee will surely play, so I guess Ginebra is underrated.
I saw a post on Facebook that the Dragons are discussing whether they will choose Nicholson or Powell in the PBA Finals.
I don't know but this might affect the whole performance of the team. Ginebra beat them with Nicholson as their import, but they don't know if they can still defeat them if Powell will be their import.

If Nicholson will be their import, I guess that 2.44 ML of Ginebra is an attractive bet because they have a chance to defeat them because they already did in the eliminations and Brownlee played really well against Magnolia and his momentum might continue in the PBA Finals. Ginebra might take Game 1. Smiley

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December 24, 2022, 06:26:45 PM
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Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
That's what I'm thinking, Sunday + Christmas day + bonus of people have been taken then for sure the basketball and Ginebra fans will book tickets. AFAIK, it's already sold out just 5 minutes after its publishing a few days ago, maybe just the scalper things.
It's a tour for some friends and family going to the venue and then watch some live action and as a start of the finals.

A perfect bonding for friends and family, right? It's ginebra and the magnet that it will create for the fans, that's something that we all anticipated, a good market for PBA and an expected high revenue series, we might expect a good game 7 do-or-die game right? I will not conclude yet, but for the matchup is capable of both teams to push and force the series to the maximum limit.

Entertainment wise, that's for the value of money and for the fans enjoyment, as long as there is no problem with any ref/official calls
then it will be a good series to watch out.
High revenue? Maybe or not.
We don't know if this is going to be a long series but everyone's excited about this match. It's just a few hours from now on and we'll see how the first game will start.
Anyway, our timeline is different and I just want to greet you guys Merry Christmas!

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December 24, 2022, 08:21:34 PM
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High revenue? Maybe or not.
We don't know if this is going to be a long series but everyone's excited about this match. It's just a few hours from now on and we'll see how the first game will start.
Anyway, our timeline is different and I just want to greet you guys Merry Christmas!

There's no championship series that involves Ginebra playing where it didn't manage to get high revenue that's why it's expected that the series will yield a large gate attendance and high revenue even if the game won't end in Game 7.

Expect a jampack audience even if it's not Christmas as that's how Ginebra really is.

I hope for a longer series, possibly ending at Game 7 as I see Dragons and Ginebra will really do their very best.

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December 24, 2022, 08:25:32 PM
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High revenue? Maybe or not.
We don't know if this is going to be a long series but everyone's excited about this match. It's just a few hours from now on and we'll see how the first game will start.
Anyway, our timeline is different and I just want to greet you guys Merry Christmas!

There's no championship series that involves Ginebra playing where it didn't manage to get high revenue that's why it's expected that the series will yield a large gate attendance and high revenue even if the game won't end in Game 7.

Expect a jampack audience even if it's not Christmas as that's how Ginebra really is.

I hope for a longer series, possibly ending at Game 7 as I see Dragons and Ginebra will really do their very best.

We deserve this longer series, and there’s a high probability for this they are the top two teams and as expected they are both want to get the championship. Ginebra supporters are always there to support them even if its not Finals, so what more during the finals? This is a big challenge indeed for Bay Area to deal with the bigger crowd which is against them at all, we might see them play on a different pressure here.
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December 24, 2022, 09:14:15 PM
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Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
That's what I'm thinking, Sunday + Christmas day + bonus of people have been taken then for sure the basketball and Ginebra fans will book tickets. AFAIK, it's already sold out just 5 minutes after its publishing a few days ago, maybe just the scalper things.
It's a tour for some friends and family going to the venue and then watch some live action and as a start of the finals.

A perfect bonding for friends and family, right? It's ginebra and the magnet that it will create for the fans, that's something that we all anticipated, a good market for PBA and an expected high revenue series, we might expect a good game 7 do-or-die game right? I will not conclude yet, but for the matchup is capable of both teams to push and force the series to the maximum limit.

Entertainment wise, that's for the value of money and for the fans enjoyment, as long as there is no problem with any ref/official calls
then it will be a good series to watch out.
High revenue? Maybe or not.
We don't know if this is going to be a long series but everyone's excited about this match. It's just a few hours from now on and we'll see how the first game will start.
Anyway, our timeline is different and I just want to greet you guys Merry Christmas!

I get your point and it's true; we don't know if these series will be pushed up to game 7 but the sure deal here is each time that there's a game schedule expect a jampack audience, Ginebra is a magnet especially now that they are representing the league and our country, even those who are no longer interested that much in watching PBA might be attracted to buy ticket since the timing is perfect. There is spare money from the bonuses and spending it with friends and family by watching a PBA is not a bad idea.

High revenue? Maybe or not.
We don't know if this is going to be a long series but everyone's excited about this match. It's just a few hours from now on and we'll see how the first game will start.
Anyway, our timeline is different and I just want to greet you guys Merry Christmas!

There's no championship series that involves Ginebra playing where it didn't manage to get high revenue that's why it's expected that the series will yield a large gate attendance and high revenue even if the game won't end in Game 7.

Expect a jampack audience even if it's not Christmas as that's how Ginebra really is.

I hope for a longer series, possibly ending at Game 7 as I see Dragons and Ginebra will really do their very best.

We deserve this longer series, and there’s a high probability for this they are the top two teams and as expected they are both want to get the championship. Ginebra supporters are always there to support them even if its not Finals, so what more during the finals? This is a big challenge indeed for Bay Area to deal with the bigger crowd which is against them at all, we might see them play on a different pressure here.

We might see both teams adjusting from each game that they'll going to play, every win and loss there's a good adjustment that we might expect, seeing a game 7might be possible and will add more entertainment for the fans and viewers, especially bettors who wanted to bet in a game to game manner.

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December 24, 2022, 09:30:53 PM
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This is a big challenge indeed for Bay Area to deal with the bigger crowd which is against them at all, we might see them play on a different pressure here.

I see no and that's not a challenge for them.

From the very first game they played here in Governors Cup, they are playing against the crowd. That's expected already by them because they are a foreign team. These professional players are not surely affected by the large crowds even for let's say that 99% of those fans will side with Ginebra.

That big crowd will surely boost Ginebra's confidence but not a key recipe to winning.

I'll be betting for Bay Area Dragons for only 3K php but i'll be picking my opponents.

bisdak40 1k php vs Maslate 1k php
bisdak40 1k php vs harizen 1k php
bisdak40 1k vs Huh??

@harizen and Maslate please confirm if you are biting the proposal hehe, not final until you confirm this.

Third opponent is still open, to those who will bet for Ginebra and want to bet for them, please comment...

Deal boss. Php 1k for Ginebra.

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December 24, 2022, 09:58:23 PM
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This is a big challenge indeed for Bay Area to deal with the bigger crowd which is against them at all, we might see them play on a different pressure here.

I see no and that's not a challenge for them.

From the very first game they played here in Governors Cup, they are playing against the crowd. That's expected already by them because they are a foreign team. These professional players are not surely affected by the large crowds even for let's say that 99% of those fans will side with Ginebra.

That big crowd will surely boost Ginebra's confidence but not a key recipe to winning.
Exactly, Bay Area seems unbothered about the crowd as they are able to surpass other top teams and make it to the finals, but playing against Ginebra will surely be different because of their aggressive supporters. Bay Area have to be more focus, this will be a long series and those who have a good perseverance and more consistent, will surely take the championship.
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December 24, 2022, 10:43:37 PM
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Also expecting a tight match every game where one mistake can lead to costing a game.

I'm looking forward to their games where there will be lots of turning points at the end where until the final buzzer, we won't know who will be the winner.

Since I don't know what other local betting should be made here as @bisdak40 slots are already full, who will bet against me on how much is gate attendance later on haha. The closest one is the winner. I bet 17,000 audiences for Php 300 bet. The winner takes all. Cheesy Cut-off time is 30 minutes before the game.
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December 25, 2022, 01:13:10 AM
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Betting odds are now available.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-commissioner-cup/matches


What are you waiting for? Pound that Moneyline now because that attractive odds will be gone because I'm pretty sure bettors will take the ML.
Brownlee will surely play, so I guess Ginebra is underrated.

Odds now is 2.14 for Ginebra... How fast it changed, damn, I should have put my bet early.


Still have 10k open for betting, Ginebre here series.
It's not for 1 user only, max of 3k per user only, first come first serve, so take this offer now.  Grin

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