2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[jakelyson]

We have two games today but the first game which will be this 4:30 PM is not that interesting to watch, so let's proceed to the last game which is the battle of Beermen vs TNT.

If you bet on Phoenix spread then you might find this game interesting because Phoenix is currently leading with 11 points.
I wouldn't be surprise if Phoenix will have a blowout win after this.

Seems like you are right, no chance for a comeback here because Phoenix already had a decent lead.
The score now is 62 - 25 with less than 2 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, look what kind of offense the DYIP has, that's very low for almost 2 quarters.

Dyip has no motivation to win this game. They are already eliminated together with blackwater. You can clearly see in the end score that this is a giveaway to Phoenix who needed the win to get out of the group that has 5 wins.


The game between San Miguel and TNT is about to start. San Miguel needs the win as well for the same reason Phoenix has. They should get this win to avoid getting clamped together with other teams with 5 wins. I think  the -3.5 handicapped is doable by San Miguel. It is tempting @1.9 odds too. I think I will put some on it.

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[Fredomago]

We have two games today but the first game which will be this 4:30 PM is not that interesting to watch, so let's proceed to the last game which is the battle of Beermen vs TNT.

If you bet on Phoenix spread then you might find this game interesting because Phoenix is currently leading with 11 points.
I wouldn't be surprise if Phoenix will have a blowout win after this.

Seems like you are right, no chance for a comeback here because Phoenix already had a decent lead.
The score now is 62 - 25 with less than 2 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, look what kind of offense the DYIP has, that's very low for almost 2 quarters.

Dyip has no motivation to win this game. They are already eliminated together with blackwater. You can clearly see in the end score that this is a giveaway to Phoenix who needed the win to get out of the group that has 5 wins.


The game between San Miguel and TNT is about to start. San Miguel needs the win as well for the same reason Phoenix has. They should get this win to avoid getting clamped together with other teams with 5 wins. I think  the -3.5 handicapped is doable by San Miguel. It is tempting @1.9 odds too. I think I will put some on it.

Wow, if you made that bet then you are enjoying now SMB wins with a huge lead, without Castro and Erram TNT unable to avoid losing with a SMB, though Fajardo didn't really take extra effort to make more points but the core players of SMB did, the damages are unmatched with only Williams and Poguy who are really trying to stay close but the early lead in the first half was established and nothing TNT can do to make a run and do the usual rally.

They can't do anything as SMB has lots of fire squad to answer back and counter every attempt that TNT will try to do.

[Johnyz]

The game between San Miguel and TNT is about to start. San Miguel needs the win as well for the same reason Phoenix has. They should get this win to avoid getting clamped together with other teams with 5 wins. I think  the -3.5 handicapped is doable by San Miguel. It is tempting @1.9 odds too. I think I will put some on it.

SMB won the match with a convincing lead as this is one of their game that needs to take the win.
TNT did a great job at first but eventually SMB dominates the last quarter and putting up a 20 points lead to end it. If you are able to place a bet probably you’ll get more profit with the result. The next game for SMB will be more crucial for them, they should continue this momentum.

[crzy]

The game between San Miguel and TNT is about to start. San Miguel needs the win as well for the same reason Phoenix has. They should get this win to avoid getting clamped together with other teams with 5 wins. I think  the -3.5 handicapped is doable by San Miguel. It is tempting @1.9 odds too. I think I will put some on it.

SMB won the match with a convincing lead as this is one of their game that needs to take the win.
TNT did a great job at first but eventually SMB dominates the last quarter and putting up a 20 points lead to end it. If you are able to place a bet probably you’ll get more profit with the result. The next game for SMB will be more crucial for them, they should continue this momentum.

Phoenix won with a huge lead of 51 points while SMB won by 20 points so both team are so eager to take a win and have a chance to proceed in the next round. SMB vs TNT as expected was a great game, the intensity and passion is there, kudos to TNT for giving their all out here its just that they missed a lot of points. SMB is getting their rhythm back, hopefully they can still have it on their last matches. 

[bisdak40]

The game between San Miguel and TNT is about to start. San Miguel needs the win as well for the same reason Phoenix has. They should get this win to avoid getting clamped together with other teams with 5 wins. I think  the -3.5 handicapped is doable by San Miguel. It is tempting @1.9 odds too. I think I will put some on it.

SMB won the match with a convincing lead as this is one of their game that needs to take the win.
TNT did a great job at first but eventually SMB dominates the last quarter and putting up a 20 points lead to end it. If you are able to place a bet probably you’ll get more profit with the result. The next game for SMB will be more crucial for them, they should continue this momentum.

That SMB Beermen win last night was expected as the lineup of TNT Katropa was depleted, i mean most of their starters were not playing so to those who bet on the pre-game for SMB should have won as i think that 20-point lead covered the spread.

This conference is very weird for me because most of the MVP teams are at the bottom of the standings and almost out of the eliminations with only Meralco Bolts having the chance to advance if they win all their remaining games.

Speaking of the Bolts, they have a game today against the number 2 team in the standings, the Magnolia Hotshots. Bolts are listed as the slight underdog for tonight's game but with McDaniels around their chance of winning this game is very high.

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

[Russlenat]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

[Japinat]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

All of the sudden it has become a blowout win by the Magnolia. There's no way Meralco will be able to comeback now that Magnolia already has 20 points lead. There's only one full quarter left, and Meralco is not SMB or Ginebra who can have a big come back to win. Anyway, it's not over yet but the chance of Meralco winning is very low now.

[Russlenat]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

All of the sudden it has become a blowout win by the Magnolia. There's no way Meralco will be able to comeback now that Magnolia already has 20 points lead. There's only one full quarter left, and Meralco is not SMB or Ginebra who can have a big come back to win. Anyway, it's not over yet but the chance of Meralco winning is very low now.

Yeah, I was surprised because of a big run by the Magnolia, that 3rd quarter was full domination, 47-23, what kind of defense Meralco had in that quarter, it looks like they have no chance to beat good teams despite having a good import, or Magnolia was just lucky in the 3rd quarter.

Congratulating the Magnolia backers, this is your night. 

[bisdak40]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

All of the sudden it has become a blowout win by the Magnolia. There's no way Meralco will be able to comeback now that Magnolia already has 20 points lead. There's only one full quarter left, and Meralco is not SMB or Ginebra who can have a big come back to win. Anyway, it's not over yet but the chance of Meralco winning is very low now.

Yeah, I was surprised because of a big run by the Magnolia, that 3rd quarter was full domination, 47-23, what kind of defense Meralco had in that quarter, it looks like they have no chance to beat good teams despite having a good import, or Magnolia was just lucky in the 3rd quarter.

Congratulating the Magnolia backers, this is your night. 

That third quarter run by the Hotshots made the difference that cost the game for the Bolts and now their chance of qualifying for the playoffs is in danger and they might be eliminated if ROS wins its last game.

No regrets on betting for the Bolts and if ever there is another game like that where they are the underdog, i will still go with them considering that McDaniels is still their import.

Ginebra vs NorthPort are playing at the moment wherein the latter leads by 6 points with 1 minute to go in the first quarter. I'm looking for a window to bet for the Kings on this one if the odds for them to win will be attractive.

[Yamifoud]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

All of the sudden it has become a blowout win by the Magnolia. There's no way Meralco will be able to comeback now that Magnolia already has 20 points lead. There's only one full quarter left, and Meralco is not SMB or Ginebra who can have a big come back to win. Anyway, it's not over yet but the chance of Meralco winning is very low now.

Yeah, I was surprised because of a big run by the Magnolia, that 3rd quarter was full domination, 47-23, what kind of defense Meralco had in that quarter, it looks like they have no chance to beat good teams despite having a good import, or Magnolia was just lucky in the 3rd quarter.

Congratulating the Magnolia backers, this is your night. 

That third quarter run by the Hotshots made the difference that cost the game for the Bolts and now their chance of qualifying for the playoffs is in danger and they might be eliminated if ROS wins its last game.

No regrets on betting for the Bolts and if ever there is another game like that where they are the underdog, i will still go with them considering that McDaniels is still their import.

Ginebra vs NorthPort are playing at the moment wherein the latter leads by 6 points with 1 minute to go in the first quarter. I'm looking for a window to bet for the Kings on this one if the odds for them to win will be attractive.

Northporth are still on the lead but I'm not seeing Ginebra will lose in this game. Ginebra loves to run in the 2nd half, so it's okay if Northport will lead the first half because it's 100% sure that Ginebra will come back and win the game.

[jakelyson]

Northporth are still on the lead but I'm not seeing Ginebra will lose in this game. Ginebra loves to run in the 2nd half, so it's okay if Northport will lead the first half because it's 100% sure that Ginebra will come back and win the game.

It is now the fourth quarter and Ginebra snatched the lead from Northport. It is still a close game though. Ginebra has always proven that they can win on a Sunday, and they are very energetic entering the fourth quarter so I also do not have a doubt that they could win this game. They lead by 8 points, but they cannot go easy. They need to push hard until the last second.

We know Bolick can be very creative in creating points. Northport could still catch up and make a comeback.

[Fredomago]

Northporth are still on the lead but I'm not seeing Ginebra will lose in this game. Ginebra loves to run in the 2nd half, so it's okay if Northport will lead the first half because it's 100% sure that Ginebra will come back and win the game.

It is now the fourth quarter and Ginebra snatched the lead from Northport. It is still a close game though. Ginebra has always proven that they can win on a Sunday, and they are very energetic entering the fourth quarter so I also do not have a doubt that they could win this game. They lead by 8 points, but they cannot go easy. They need to push hard until the last second.

We know Bolick can be very creative in creating points. Northport could still catch up and make a comeback.

But suddenly, Ginebra continue to bring more energy and extend the lead, like what you have mentioned they are always proven that they can win on a Sunday game, bringing the enjoyment that the fans always wanted to watch during the live events, they are good in entertaining the crowd and they continue to be love.

Congrats Ginebra backer, both ML and handicap was fully covered as Gin kings wins with 17 points deficits.

[goaldigger]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

All of the sudden it has become a blowout win by the Magnolia. There's no way Meralco will be able to comeback now that Magnolia already has 20 points lead. There's only one full quarter left, and Meralco is not SMB or Ginebra who can have a big come back to win. Anyway, it's not over yet but the chance of Meralco winning is very low now.

Magnolia is one of the strongest team this conference and having that lead is too impossible for them to lose, Meralco did a great job but its not enough since Magnolia are more eager to win. On the other hand, Ginebra bounces back and claim a win against Northporth, that was a great game as well and Ginebra still wants to win here so he can get a chance to proceed in the next round, such a great games for today.

[Fredomago]

Bolts ML @2.78 vs Magnolia

I would have picked the same if I was able to bet on this game. We are in the 3rd quarter already and the game is quite close, Meralco already leading by 1 point McDaniels does not have his usual numbers yet but as for the team play, Meralco is doing well, good luck mate.

All of the sudden it has become a blowout win by the Magnolia. There's no way Meralco will be able to comeback now that Magnolia already has 20 points lead. There's only one full quarter left, and Meralco is not SMB or Ginebra who can have a big come back to win. Anyway, it's not over yet but the chance of Meralco winning is very low now.

Magnolia is one of the strongest team this conference and having that lead is too impossible for them to lose, Meralco did a great job but its not enough since Magnolia are more eager to win. On the other hand, Ginebra bounces back and claim a win against Northporth, that was a great game as well and Ginebra still wants to win here so he can get a chance to proceed in the next round, such a great games for today.

After that rally in the third quarter Magnolia keeps that momentum and they didn't give any opportunities for the Bolts to come back, the entire squad of Magnolia provides their respective shares in this game, the ball rotations as intact as it is, the playing system really converts great plays, plus Paul Lee and Abueva are really taking shots which good for them when these two scorers are aggressive to make their offense effective in helping the team.

On the 2nd game, Both Malonzo and CStan played so well, playing against their former team they shared 26 points for Malonzo and 20 points for CStan, though Brownlee still the highest scorer to lead the Gin kings with 31 points, all has been shifted during the 2nd half, Gin kings changes and dominate the game and not to allow NP to come back.

[harizen]

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

Ginebra can still seal the twice-to-beat advantage:

- if they will win all of their remaining games (against Northport, Nov. 27 and Converge, Nov. 30)
- if Magnolia Hotshots will lose their last elimination games (against Meralco, Nov. 27 and Rain or Shine, Dec. 2)

With these remaining games, for me, Ginebra vs Converge will be the most interesting match here.

I'll make a prediction base on that 2 scenarios.
-Ginebra might win against NorthPort even though the Batang Pier is on a 3-game winning streak but against Converge, if Miller will play, they might have a difficult time beating them.
-Magnolia has a high chance that they will beat Rain or Shine. Meralco Vs. Magnolia is an interesting match-up as well because Meralco is on a winning streak right now with McDaniels as their current import.

With the 4 games that you shared; I'm also waiting for the Ginebra-Converge match-up because that game will be big for the 2 teams. It will be on the 30th and I'll watch that game for sure.

And after the last game's result, the scenario would be:

- Ginebra's chances for the twice-to-beat are still possible if they will win against Converge on Wednesday and Magnolia will lose on Friday against the ROS
- If Magnolia won though, regardless if Ginebra will win or not against Converge, Mags will secure the 2nd place.
- If Ginebra loses against Converge on Wednesday, there's a possibility that they will face the SMB in the Quarterfinals. If they won instead, they might face Northport which seems to be a much lighter opponent obviously compared to SMB.

Let's see what will happened this week.

[LogitechMouse]

NLEX won by 3 points and with that win, Ginebra's chance to get the twice to beat spot decreased. There are rumors that they will be targeting the 4th spot so they will face the Bay Area Dragons on the Semi-Finals.

Ginebra can still seal the twice-to-beat advantage:

- if they will win all of their remaining games (against Northport, Nov. 27 and Converge, Nov. 30)
- if Magnolia Hotshots will lose their last elimination games (against Meralco, Nov. 27 and Rain or Shine, Dec. 2)

With these remaining games, for me, Ginebra vs Converge will be the most interesting match here.

I'll make a prediction base on that 2 scenarios.
-Ginebra might win against NorthPort even though the Batang Pier is on a 3-game winning streak but against Converge, if Miller will play, they might have a difficult time beating them.
-Magnolia has a high chance that they will beat Rain or Shine. Meralco Vs. Magnolia is an interesting match-up as well because Meralco is on a winning streak right now with McDaniels as their current import.

With the 4 games that you shared; I'm also waiting for the Ginebra-Converge match-up because that game will be big for the 2 teams. It will be on the 30th and I'll watch that game for sure.

And after the last game's result, the scenario would be:

- Ginebra's chances for the twice-to-beat are still possible if they will win against Converge on Wednesday and Magnolia will lose on Friday against the ROS
- If Magnolia won though, regardless if Ginebra will win or not against Converge, Mags will secure the 2nd place.
- If Ginebra loses against Converge on Wednesday, there's a possibility that they will face the SMB in the Quarterfinals. If they won instead, they might face Northport which seems to be a much lighter opponent obviously compared to SMB.

Let's see what will happened this week.

Ginebra Vs. Converge on the 30th. Both teams' last games and it will be the most important game for them.

TBH, I don't want to face 2 sister teams in the first round so I would want to see Ginebra win the game and face NorthPort on the first round. Well like you said, if out of nowhere, Magnolia lost to ROS and Ginebra will win then they will get the 2nd spot and it's much easier...or is it because Ginebra lost to Phoenix in eliminations. I don't know if it's only me that I'm feeling it, but I want to see Ginebra Vs. Bay Area in the PBA Finals and in order for that to happen, Ginebra must take the 2nd or 3rd spot but better if 2nd to have that twice to beat advantage.

On the other hand, I'm a bit curious on how MVP is feeling right now that MVP teams didn't enter the playoffs especially the TNT who we know is always dominating in every conference and has all the pieces to win a title. It's the first time for Coach Chot that he didn't enter the playoffs. It's the first time for the company that all 3 teams didn't enter the playoffs. An achievement. :X

[jakelyson]

On the other hand, I'm a bit curious on how MVP is feeling right now that MVP teams didn't enter the playoffs especially the TNT who we know is always dominating in every conference and has all the pieces to win a title. It's the first time for Coach Chot that he didn't enter the playoffs. It's the first time for the company that all 3 teams didn't enter the playoffs. An achievement. :X

He must be livid. It is very expensive to maintain a PBA team and all of his teams not going to the playoffs is really bad. But there is nothing he can do. Injuries happen.

But for us, it is good. We have been asking for a different franchise entering in the finals, and this is an opening. If MVP teams are out, then there is no more MVP vs SMC teams on the finals. It might be SMC vs another team, maybe the Dragons this time. It is a good change.

Hopefully it is the Bay Area Dragons versus non-SMC team in the finals, but I think that is too much to ask. Magnolia and Ginebra is quite strong this conference and we cannot count out San Miguel. Once June Mar is back in full health, they will be a monster again. Just in time for the semis or finals.

[Ziskinberg]

On the other hand, I'm a bit curious on how MVP is feeling right now that MVP teams didn't enter the playoffs especially the TNT who we know is always dominating in every conference and has all the pieces to win a title. It's the first time for Coach Chot that he didn't enter the playoffs. It's the first time for the company that all 3 teams didn't enter the playoffs. An achievement. :X

He must be livid. It is very expensive to maintain a PBA team and all of his teams not going to the playoffs is really bad. But there is nothing he can do. Injuries happen.

But for us, it is good. We have been asking for a different franchise entering in the finals, and this is an opening. If MVP teams are out, then there is no more MVP vs SMC teams on the finals. It might be SMC vs another team, maybe the Dragons this time. It is a good change.

Hopefully it is the Bay Area Dragons versus non-SMC team in the finals, but I think that is too much to ask. Magnolia and Ginebra is quite strong this conference and we cannot count out San Miguel. Once June Mar is back in full health, they will be a monster again. Just in time for the semis or finals.

Injuries really are the problem, however, I think it's just okay for TNT not to get to the playoffs as they have been consistent in the past, they just have some injury problems but the worst is their chemistry problem because Williams does acts like a superstar and does not follow some of the rules. I think they should trade him and find players that could fill his position, maybe make Pogoy as their star player and just surround him with good role players.

[Fredomago]

On the other hand, I'm a bit curious on how MVP is feeling right now that MVP teams didn't enter the playoffs especially the TNT who we know is always dominating in every conference and has all the pieces to win a title. It's the first time for Coach Chot that he didn't enter the playoffs. It's the first time for the company that all 3 teams didn't enter the playoffs. An achievement. :X

He must be livid. It is very expensive to maintain a PBA team and all of his teams not going to the playoffs is really bad. But there is nothing he can do. Injuries happen.

But for us, it is good. We have been asking for a different franchise entering in the finals, and this is an opening. If MVP teams are out, then there is no more MVP vs SMC teams on the finals. It might be SMC vs another team, maybe the Dragons this time. It is a good change.

Hopefully it is the Bay Area Dragons versus non-SMC team in the finals, but I think that is too much to ask. Magnolia and Ginebra is quite strong this conference and we cannot count out San Miguel. Once June Mar is back in full health, they will be a monster again. Just in time for the semis or finals.

Injuries really are the problem, however, I think it's just okay for TNT not to get to the playoffs as they have been consistent in the past, they just have some injury problems but the worst is their chemistry problem because Williams does acts like a superstar and does not follow some of the rules. I think they should trade him and find players that could fill his position, maybe make Pogoy as their star player and just surround him with good role players.

Better to do that since Williams already showing attitude problem which can really affect the entire team, with his role as game facilitator if he act like that it's not his own game which being affected but the system that the team is following, I like what you said, just let Poguy lead the team and surround him with players who are willing to play according to their role, they don't need a star player who are not willing to follow their system.

Might be possible that Williams is really trying to move away from his contract and be traded or be released so he can play overseas where he can earn a huge amount of money.

[crzy]

On the other hand, I'm a bit curious on how MVP is feeling right now that MVP teams didn't enter the playoffs especially the TNT who we know is always dominating in every conference and has all the pieces to win a title. It's the first time for Coach Chot that he didn't enter the playoffs. It's the first time for the company that all 3 teams didn't enter the playoffs. An achievement. :X

He must be livid. It is very expensive to maintain a PBA team and all of his teams not going to the playoffs is really bad. But there is nothing he can do. Injuries happen.

This is a bad conference for MVP teams but that is ok because the are still more conference to come. Injuries make them suffer like this, its good for them to rest for a while and come back stronger next Conference. Coach Chot might have a problem handling TNT and the Gilas team better for him to focus in one team only and know his priority. MVP will surely not be happy about the result, but he have to deal with it.