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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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December 09, 2022, 02:41:36 AM
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Speaking of Fajardo, he's fit and healthy and seems that he really wanted to win. He is helping and showing why he's the goat of this league. Adding to what you mentioned about experienced, SMB is full of experienced players, anyone can explode and bring help.

The last game was CJ Perez who leads them but with all those stars inside the squad like what i mentioned,
everyone can contribute and bring the spark for the team.

Converge was just too unlucky this time as they are facing the SMB Beermen with Fajardo and Romeo healthy once again. Even the coaching brilliance of coach Ayo will not be enough to bring Converge to the semis facing this SMC giant team. On the part of SMB Beermen, it would be interesting to see if they slay the Dragons once they face them in the next round.

Speaking of the Dragons, they will be facing ROS tonight and i'll be backing them this time even if the spread is high.

Bay Area Dragons -15.5 @1.87 vs ROS Elastopainters
Kudos to the Converge for having a great season and in their last season where they entered the playoffs on their debut season, but I will say again that experience matters when it comes to playoffs and that's the one thing that they don't have right now, and they might get swept by the Beermen. Too unlucky for them indeed that they are facing a team that already has lots of experiences and at the same time, a star-studded team.

Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

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December 09, 2022, 02:53:51 AM
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Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

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Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

I don't know if I'll find this handicap of ROS attractive, yes, it's +15.5, but against the Dragons? I think it's even low considering how they got dominated in their previous meeting. I'm saying it will be an easy win by the Dragons but we also cannot eliminate the possibility that it might result on a big upset.

We know coach Yeng, he has been a PBA coach for more than a decade, so he surely has something in his sleeve that we haven't seen before.

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Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

I don't know if I'll find this handicap of ROS attractive, yes, it's +15.5, but against the Dragons? I think it's even low considering how they got dominated in their previous meeting. I'm saying it will be an easy win by the Dragons but we also cannot eliminate the possibility that it might result on a big upset.

We know coach Yeng, he has been a PBA coach for more than a decade, so he surely has something in his sleeve that we haven't seen before.
While I'm browsing the Facebook, I saw a post coming from the commentator of the league saying that Myles Powell will not play because he has an injury (it's on the leg base on the picture) and he just posted it just a few minutes after I'm doing this post.

This will be a huge turn of events obviously as the Dragons doesn't have an import to start the playoffs with. This is what I'm curious about. How will the Dragons be without their import who is a scoring machine. I don't recommend this but if you still see that +15.5 odds against the Dragons, bet on it. Powell might not play based on the post that I just saw. With this update, I guess the ROS might take this Game 1 or at least the chances of them winning increased significantly.

I don't know the rules, but I'm thinking if Powell can be replaced by Nicholson.

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Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

I placed a small bet to RoS in the off chance that they pull a miracle here. The odds are @10.5 so it is very tempting. I only placed a small amount so I won't really affect me if I lose but will add big amount to my pocket if I win. As you said, it is a must win for Rain or Shine, so maybe they can pull it off. The Dragons are on the lead but it is too early in the game yet.



While I'm browsing the Facebook, I saw a post coming from the commentator of the league saying that Myles Powell will not play because he has an injury (it's on the leg base on the picture) and he just posted it just a few minutes after I'm doing this post.

This will be a huge turn of events obviously as the Dragons doesn't have an import to start the playoffs with. This is what I'm curious about. How will the Dragons be without their import who is a scoring machine. I don't recommend this but if you still see that +15.5 odds against the Dragons, bet on it. Powell might not play based on the post that I just saw. With this update, I guess the ROS might take this Game 1 or at least the chances of them winning increased significantly.

I don't know the rules, but I'm thinking if Powell can be replaced by Nicholson.

They are quite a strong team. Mike Powell is like a booster but even without him, the Dragons are still very formidable. They will still give RoS a hard time.

I do not think Nicholson can replace Powell since their roster is locked from games 9 forward. It is either Powell or NIcholson and they chose Powell.
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December 09, 2022, 08:05:36 AM
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I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

That's reasonable, you have already a big chance that Ginebra will win, the only game that worries me is the SMB vs Converge, it can go either way since Converge has a good import. Still, it's up to you as you are the one taking the risk, remember that whatever the odds are, there's always a risk.

Even if we assume that Converge's imports are good if their team lacks teamwork and SMB's team is only at an average level, I think there is still a good chance that SMB will beat Converge.

But even so, we still don't know the possibility of that can happen on the day of this event, it will be a good battle for sure on this day.

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For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.



By the way, we have a similar handicap on the next game.

Magnolia is -14.5 against Phoenix, are we going to see the same outcome in the first game?
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For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.
This game is a easy game for Bay Area dragons and we all know that this is a mismatch  like what we saw in the match the lead of Bay Area dragons will come in 30 points in the 3rd quarter which is not good for ROS I think it also that ROS has No hope for this match as we can see Bay Area dragons control the game and now entering the fourth and final quarter for sure still bay area dragons will control and win in the end.

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December 09, 2022, 05:45:57 PM
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For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.
This game is a easy game for Bay Area dragons and we all know that this is a mismatch  like what we saw in the match the lead of Bay Area dragons will come in 30 points in the 3rd quarter which is not good for ROS I think it also that ROS has No hope for this match as we can see Bay Area dragons control the game and now entering the fourth and final quarter for sure still bay area dragons will control and win in the end.

It's been antciapted by coach Yeng, from what I read he knows that there's really a big mismatch and hoping to have two imports to try beating this visiting team, it's no longer an argument and that huge handicap, those who pick the visiting team and take whatever handicap they've got before the game are all enjoying the win.

If I'm not mistaken the game ended up with 30points deficit, huge enough to cover the initial bookies offer for The bay area's handicap.

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December 09, 2022, 09:21:03 PM
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For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.
This game is a easy game for Bay Area dragons and we all know that this is a mismatch  like what we saw in the match the lead of Bay Area dragons will come in 30 points in the 3rd quarter which is not good for ROS I think it also that ROS has No hope for this match as we can see Bay Area dragons control the game and now entering the fourth and final quarter for sure still bay area dragons will control and win in the end.
Bay Area leads all the way and took the win here, there’s no doubt about this.
Bay Area is too much for ROS though we’ve seen some good plays for ROS but its not enough to beat Bay Area. With a 30 points win, Bay Area did a great statement here that they are a contender for the finals, we might be able to see more good games from them because they are so eager to claim the title.

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December 09, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
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It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.

If let's say ROS Import suffered an injury, for sure they will play without a replacement import. But these dominant Dragons are being allowed to replace imports right away when Powell commits an injury during their team practice.

Technically speaking, ROS can't upset the Dragons but I just don't like the special treatment given to the latter.

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December 09, 2022, 09:59:07 PM
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It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.
SMB also replaced their import so there should be no issue about this one and just focus on the fact that Bay area is doing great this conference and they are really ahead compared to ROS. It was huge win for Bay Area, I can’t remember ROS to have a good lead agains Bay Area, that’s a good statement for Bay Area. ROS is up and down this conference, they are not that good and maybe still on the adjustment period.
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December 09, 2022, 11:08:12 PM
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It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.
SMB also replaced their import so there should be no issue about this one and just focus on the fact that Bay area is doing great this conference and they are really ahead compared to ROS. It was huge win for Bay Area, I can’t remember ROS to have a good lead agains Bay Area, that’s a good statement for Bay Area. ROS is up and down this conference, they are not that good and maybe still on the adjustment period.

I think what the user meant is the availability right away of the replacement import. It means Bay Area Dragons has 2 established imports from the beginning. It is different from the usual replacement of imports where teams should only have 1 import. Bay Area Dragons got an advantage to that by having 2 imports.

Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

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December 09, 2022, 11:27:07 PM
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It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.

If let's say ROS Import suffered an injury, for sure they will play without a replacement import. But these dominant Dragons are being allowed to replace imports right away when Powell commits an injury during their team practice.

Technically speaking, ROS can't upset the Dragons but I just don't like the special treatment given to the latter.

Quite unfair but it is what it is. I thought that since Powell is injured, they will play without import since they should be stuck with Powell right now. But they instantly place Nicholson in replacement of Powell. If the Bay Area Dragon played without import, there is a little chance that the handicapped is not covered by the Dragons.


I think what the user meant is the availability right away of the replacement import. It means Bay Area Dragons has 2 established imports from the beginning. It is different from the usual replacement of imports where teams should only have 1 import. Bay Area Dragons got an advantage to that by having 2 imports.


Blankley alone is doing too much damage in the offense. And they still have a giant and an import that could do damage inside the paint. The gap is really wide between these two teams.


Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.


 Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.
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Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.


 Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

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December 10, 2022, 06:21:34 AM
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By the way, don't forget to watch the games today.

We have Northport vs Ginebra ( do or die for NP)
SMB vs Converge ( do or die for Converge)

It's a must win for the underdog here, but honestly, I don't trust them winning against these two giants, maybe the best they can do is to make it a close game, because last time they were dominated completely.
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By the way, don't forget to watch the games today.

We have Northport vs Ginebra ( do or die for NP)
SMB vs Converge ( do or die for Converge)

It's a must win for the underdog here, but honestly, I don't trust them winning against these two giants, maybe the best they can do is to make it a close game, because last time they were dominated completely.

I also think that this would be the end of both series tonight but i have doubt on the first game that it will be a blowout, maybe Ginebra Kings will win but with a thin spread so I will shy away from that game.

I'll only bet on the second game as SMB Beermen have the edge on all departments now that Junemar Fajardo is back.

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Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.


 Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

They don't have the talent to match with the visiting team, the same outcome from the last game that they've got during elimination. RoS can't stand the heavy dominance of Bay Area, I'm excited now since SMB is one game away to move forward and they will be facing the visiting team, with Fajardo and Romeo and the rest of talents of SMB for sure it won't be a blowout for the visiting team.

They are against the defending champ and knowing how the team plays together, they are classified as a powerhouse team in this league.

Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

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December 10, 2022, 07:28:44 AM
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Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.


 Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

They don't have the talent to match with the visiting team, the same outcome from the last game that they've got during elimination. RoS can't stand the heavy dominance of Bay Area, I'm excited now since SMB is one game away to move forward and they will be facing the visiting team, with Fajardo and Romeo and the rest of talents of SMB for sure it won't be a blowout for the visiting team.

They are against the defending champ and knowing how the team plays together, they are classified as a powerhouse team in this league.

Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

That's going to be an exciting match up, with Fajardo slowly going back to his normal form, I think it will not be easy for the visiting team to beat the SMB team. Plus, if they will survive against SMB, for sure they will face the Ginebra Gin Kings, the team that beat them with a huge margin.

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December 10, 2022, 07:39:37 AM
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Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

Exactly, we are too excited about a possible match-up of SMB and Bay Area and we forgot they still have one game to win. Converge maybe not so competitive in the first game, but I'm pretty sure they'll come up with a good plan to upset the SMB, I'm thinking of betting the underdog and will be taking the handicap.



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