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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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December 19, 2022, 09:41:20 AM
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PBA for sure, will earn a lot of money. The game between SMB and Bay Area is more like the finals. They both have solid selections
that can spark and bring real entertainment to the fans.

If you noticed the live audience on that Game, others even commented that "are they still in a bubble"? haha.

But with SMB extending the series, and they will be on the second game on Wednesday, expect more fans to attend the live game as more fans will also watch the Manila Clasico on the first game where most BGSM fans are waiting to seal the series on that day.

MOA Arena is the venue and expects a full audience there.

One of the players of Bay Area was injured, I can't memorize the name but if that guy is not gonna play in game 4, I have a feeling that SMB could even the series. I like their physicality though their import is still playing at a lowest level, but JMF being their import is going to match the Bay Area.

About Ginebra vs Magnolia, I think that series will end in 4.
Both of my predictions were right. The problem is that I didn't put a bet on both of them because I'm busy.
You should not miss placing a bet in game 4 as that could be the last game of the semi finals for both match ups.

Anyway, I expect SMB to extend the series and will not get a win against the Dragons. What I didn't expect is that they only won by 2 points and on a three point by Enciso. What if it didn't go in? The Beermen will lose and get swept but anyway, a win is a win and I'm happy to see lots of fans watching the game and enjoying every bit of the first game while waiting for the Manila Classico.
Forget about that, they work hard for it so we should appreciate their effort. Of course, PBA will not allow that one of the best teams in the PBA will get swept by the visiting team, what would happen to the reputation of the PBA then? you know what I mean. .... Refs can control the game, so a team that they will side will likely win.

Game 4 for both teams on Wednesday. I'll predict that the Dragons will finish it on Wednesday and will win against the Beermen. On the other match-up, if Lee will not play again, (because of injury or health issues) it will be over for the Hotshots. I mean he didn't play yesterday, and we saw how Ginebra demolished them so we might see the same result if Lee will not play.

I lose my trust on the Dragons after that defeat, it seemed like SMB already know how to beat them, maybe we will witness a game 5, I hope.

About Magnolia vs Ginebra, it's very obvious that Ginebra is too much for them, so make Paul Lee play and Barroca to be available.

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December 19, 2022, 11:25:47 AM
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Game 4 for both teams on Wednesday. I'll predict that the Dragons will finish it on Wednesday and will win against the Beermen. On the other match-up, if Lee will not play again, (because of injury or health issues) it will be over for the Hotshots. I mean he didn't play yesterday, and we saw how Ginebra demolished them so we might see the same result if Lee will not play.

There's a chance that Bay Area will win because they'll bounce back from a lose. And about Paul Lee, I think he can play because he only had a fever last night which I'm pretty sure he will be fine next game, however, Ginebra had the momentum and I think they also are the better team, so they might end the series as well. As what we've seen last night, Brownlee is unstoppable, so as long as no one can stop him, things will be tough for Magnolia

Even with a healthy and complete Magnolia, there's no way they can defeat the Ginebra Kings. if they can even the series in game 4, I believe the last laugh will still belong to the Gin Kings. What they showed in game 3 was complete dominance, their defense is very impressive, so I think they'll be a great match up with Bay Area.

It seems that PBA is collecting more money with each semi final games, both are enjoyable to watch and fans who can afford to buy tickets and watch the game live will be there to show support with their favorite team. I don't want to be biased, but I will be on your side. Gin kings have a good advantage here. Even Mags will manage to extend the game into the do-or-die final game.

The chance of winning and moving to the finals is still for Ginebra and if ever the Bay Area will advance to the finals.

That will be a great matchup to watch out, more likely to expect a possible game 7 series.

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December 19, 2022, 12:37:39 PM
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Paul Lee and Barroca can rest more since their game is on Wednesday.

I'm excited to see the betting odds, I hope it will be available early so I can put my bet on Ginebra. I won my bet last time, probably the biggest bet I made this year, so I'm a bit happy, with that, I'm thinking of putting another huge bet for Ginebra as I think the series will end in 4.

On the other hand, we have SMB vs Bay Area, I already have Bay Area winning the series but I still like to take chances on SMB to even the series.

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December 19, 2022, 04:00:18 PM
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Paul Lee and Barroca can rest more since their game is on Wednesday.

I'm excited to see the betting odds, I hope it will be available early so I can put my bet on Ginebra. I won my bet last time, probably the biggest bet I made this year, so I'm a bit happy, with that, I'm thinking of putting another huge bet for Ginebra as I think the series will end in 4.

On the other hand, we have SMB vs Bay Area, I already have Bay Area winning the series but I still like to take chances on SMB to even the series.

Hopefully, both Paul Lee and Barroca will be able to play in Game 4. Without these two, it is impossible for Magnolia to win against Ginebra. At least if these two are playing, they can give Ginebra a good fight. Without them, it will be very easy for Ginebra. In the last game, Paul Lee is the only one out, but Ginebra dominated Magnolia easily.

The chance of winning and moving to the finals is still for Ginebra and if ever the Bay Area will advance to the finals.

That will be a great matchup to watch out, more likely to expect a possible game 7 series.

If I am right, Ginebra is one of the teams that were able to get a win against the Bay Area Dragons in the eliminations. If there is a team in the semis that could go toe-to-toe against the Bay Area Dragons in the Finals, it would be Ginebra.
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December 19, 2022, 08:11:13 PM
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Paul Lee and Barroca can rest more since their game is on Wednesday.

I'm excited to see the betting odds, I hope it will be available early so I can put my bet on Ginebra. I won my bet last time, probably the biggest bet I made this year, so I'm a bit happy, with that, I'm thinking of putting another huge bet for Ginebra as I think the series will end in 4.

On the other hand, we have SMB vs Bay Area, I already have Bay Area winning the series but I still like to take chances on SMB to even the series.

Hopefully, both Paul Lee and Barroca will be able to play in Game 4. Without these two, it is impossible for Magnolia to win against Ginebra. At least if these two are playing, they can give Ginebra a good fight. Without them, it will be very easy for Ginebra. In the last game, Paul Lee is the only one out, but Ginebra dominated Magnolia easily.

The chance of winning and moving to the finals is still for Ginebra and if ever the Bay Area will advance to the finals.

That will be a great matchup to watch out, more likely to expect a possible game 7 series.

If I am right, Ginebra is one of the teams that were able to get a win against the Bay Area Dragons in the eliminations. If there is a team in the semis that could go toe-to-toe against the Bay Area Dragons in the Finals, it would be Ginebra.

Nothing to say about that, because it's true that Ginebra is more capable of beating the visiting team. Both SMB and Ginebra for me are the team that can bring a good matchup with Bay dragon's line up. Nothing against Mags, but most of the fans who still watching PBA will side to Ginebra and selection wise the chance of winning for Ginebra is better compared with them.

Though, I still hoping for my SMB hahaha. But let see if what fate will bring to all those 4 semi-finalist.

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December 19, 2022, 09:12:13 PM
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Game 4 for both teams on Wednesday. I'll predict that the Dragons will finish it on Wednesday and will win against the Beermen. On the other match-up, if Lee will not play again, (because of injury or health issues) it will be over for the Hotshots. I mean he didn't play yesterday, and we saw how Ginebra demolished them so we might see the same result if Lee will not play.

There's a chance that Bay Area will win because they'll bounce back from a lose. And about Paul Lee, I think he can play because he only had a fever last night which I'm pretty sure he will be fine next game, however, Ginebra had the momentum and I think they also are the better team, so they might end the series as well. As what we've seen last night, Brownlee is unstoppable, so as long as no one can stop him, things will be tough for Magnolia
This will be a do or die match for both SMB and Magnolia, they can’t afford to take any chances so better for them to be more prepared. SMB still have the chance though, they just need to be more active and be good on their defense. With Magnolia, Paul Lee need to be on their next game or else it will be hard for then to match Ginebra, Magnolia needs their key players to take a win.
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December 19, 2022, 09:36:35 PM
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This will be a do or die match for both SMB and Magnolia, they can’t afford to take any chances so better for them to be more prepared. SMB still have the chance though, they just need to be more active and be good on their defense. With Magnolia, Paul Lee need to be on their next game or else it will be hard for then to match Ginebra, Magnolia needs their key players to take a win.

I doubt a Do-Or-Die will happen in SMB vs Bay Area Dragons series.

The Dragons already checked how SMB is playing. Just look at the last game, what if the clutch shot by Enciso didn't nail? Throughout the game, the Dragons really ahead of everything, and who's the one in SMB that has the tough spirit to win? June Mar Fajardo. Without his noticeable eagerness to win the game, his teammates will surely give up early in the game when the Dragons are in lead.

Annoyed here that after winning that game, Coach Leo told the media that the Dragons are unbeatable. They should finish the job first. Undecided

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December 19, 2022, 11:07:10 PM
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Annoyed here that after winning that game, Coach Leo told the media that the Dragons are unbeatable. They should finish the job first. Undecided

He said the Bay Area Dragons are beatable which is a reasonable thing to say since, first, they just won the game. Second, what do you expect him to say? That they cannot win and demoralize his team. That is the right thing to say as a coach, give your team inspiration. He believes in his team, and he wants to win as the rest of SMB is. I do not find anything annoying about that.

I doubt a Do-Or-Die will happen in SMB vs Bay Area Dragons series.

The Dragons already checked how SMB is playing. Just look at the last game, what if the clutch shot by Enciso didn't nail? Throughout the game, the Dragons really ahead of everything, and who's the one in SMB that has the tough spirit to win? June Mar Fajardo. Without his noticeable eagerness to win the game, his teammates will surely give up early in the game when the Dragons are in lead.

Bay Area Dragons are the favorite to win the series, but we cannot just say, in certainty, that the San Miguel Beer will not be able to tie the series. One thing I know is that the roster of San Miguel is tough, and they will not just lay over and let the Bay Area Dragons win. They will give them a tough fight since it is already a do-or-die game for the beermen. There is a saying, "bilog and bola". Anything can happen in the court and upset happens.
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December 19, 2022, 11:27:12 PM
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Maybe that win against the Dragons gives SMB more confidence in their next game. Actually, they can really win against the Dragons as we see way back in their Game 1 but just lack of fuel to seal that win. We will see next game if SMB can force a deciding game next and put the Dragons on verge of elimination.

On the other hand, though, Dragons will surely do anything to make sure that SMB won't bounce back anymore. Seeing them lose twice in a row will be their first time if SMB will manage to beat them again. A blow-by-blow situation next game that we can expect to witness.
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December 20, 2022, 12:11:20 AM
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Annoyed here that after winning that game, Coach Leo told the media that the Dragons are unbeatable. They should finish the job first. Undecided

He said the Bay Area Dragons are beatable which is a reasonable thing to say since, first, they just won the game. Second, what do you expect him to say? That they cannot win and demoralize his team. That is the right thing to say as a coach, give your team inspiration. He believes in his team, and he wants to win as the rest of SMB is. I do not find anything annoying about that.

I doubt a Do-Or-Die will happen in SMB vs Bay Area Dragons series.

The Dragons already checked how SMB is playing. Just look at the last game, what if the clutch shot by Enciso didn't nail? Throughout the game, the Dragons really ahead of everything, and who's the one in SMB that has the tough spirit to win? June Mar Fajardo. Without his noticeable eagerness to win the game, his teammates will surely give up early in the game when the Dragons are in lead.

Bay Area Dragons are the favorite to win the series, but we cannot just say, in certainty, that the San Miguel Beer will not be able to tie the series. One thing I know is that the roster of San Miguel is tough, and they will not just lay over and let the Bay Area Dragons win. They will give them a tough fight since it is already a do-or-die game for the beermen. There is a saying, "bilog and bola". Anything can happen in the court and upset happens.

Don't get me wrong. If I feel annoyed, you can't do anything about it.

Why that inspirational quotes didn't happen prior in their series? Can you hear that coach saying anything after Games 1 and 2 but now because of winning in Game 3 he will just say things like that?

Being humble is all I want and they should finish the job first. Don't get me wrong about what I say. Smiley

Besides, I'm on SMB winning that series as no way I will support the foreign team. But we should also consider those close things that can happen.

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December 20, 2022, 12:59:02 AM
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Don't get me wrong. If I feel annoyed, you can't do anything about it.

Why that inspirational quotes didn't happen prior in their series? Can you hear that coach saying anything after Games 1 and 2 but now because of winning in Game 3 he will just say things like that?

Being humble is all I want and they should finish the job first. Don't get me wrong about what I say. Smiley

Besides, I'm on SMB winning that series as no way I will support the foreign team. But we should also consider those close things that can happen.

That is your feeling, I can't do anything about that. I just find it amusing that you are sensitive about this when it should be like that. You do not go into the game feeling already beaten. No matter how tough the opponent is, you go in trying to win. I do not find it arrogant or anything on the side of Austria or SMB since what they said is true. Ginebra beat the Bay Area Dragons once in the elimination round. That alone made his statement true. Then they beat them in game 3, though hard-fought they beat the Dragons. It is just an affirmation that it can be done. It does not mean they will win the series. It just means it can be done.
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December 20, 2022, 03:05:29 AM
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Maybe that win against the Dragons gives SMB more confidence in their next game. Actually, they can really win against the Dragons as we see way back in their Game 1 but just lack of fuel to seal that win. We will see next game if SMB can force a deciding game next and put the Dragons on verge of elimination.

On the other hand, though, Dragons will surely do anything to make sure that SMB won't bounce back anymore. Seeing them lose twice in a row will be their first time if SMB will manage to beat them again. A blow-by-blow situation next game that we can expect to witness.

  - You are right there, for sure in the next confrontation between these two teams the Bay Dragons and SMB, it will be a fierce battle again on the court.

I just hope that SMB can control the Bay dragons again in their next match, though, I also know that it will be bloody and a challenge for the SMB team to be honest, but if each of their teams just has a really strong team work in the middle of the battle it will be easy for SMB to win, but if they only rely on one or two allies they will have a hard time winning for sure.

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Game 4 for both teams on Wednesday. I'll predict that the Dragons will finish it on Wednesday and will win against the Beermen. On the other match-up, if Lee will not play again, (because of injury or health issues) it will be over for the Hotshots. I mean he didn't play yesterday, and we saw how Ginebra demolished them so we might see the same result if Lee will not play.

There's a chance that Bay Area will win because they'll bounce back from a lose. And about Paul Lee, I think he can play because he only had a fever last night which I'm pretty sure he will be fine next game, however, Ginebra had the momentum and I think they also are the better team, so they might end the series as well. As what we've seen last night, Brownlee is unstoppable, so as long as no one can stop him, things will be tough for Magnolia

Even with a healthy and complete Magnolia, there's no way they can defeat the Ginebra Kings. if they can even the series in game 4, I believe the last laugh will still belong to the Gin Kings. What they showed in game 3 was complete dominance, their defense is very impressive, so I think they'll be a great match up with Bay Area.

It seems that PBA is collecting more money with each semi final games, both are enjoyable to watch and fans who can afford to buy tickets and watch the game live will be there to show support with their favorite team. I don't want to be biased, but I will be on your side. Gin kings have a good advantage here. Even Mags will manage to extend the game into the do-or-die final game.

The chance of winning and moving to the finals is still for Ginebra and if ever the Bay Area will advance to the finals.

That will be a great matchup to watch out, more likely to expect a possible game 7 series.
Well, it doesn't matter for fans as long as they are entertained with the games then they can spend more money into it. I mean I will spend as well if I know it will be worth it. Both games are enjoyable to watch I agree, and it will be more enjoyable in the PBA Finals.

Lee is a difference maker in the series. Him playing give them the victory in Game 2 but him not playing is just like "you let your team get demolished" or they really got demolished literally in Game 3. If Lee will not play in Game 4, it's over for them but some say that he will play so that's good news for them.

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December 20, 2022, 10:40:55 AM
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Get that money ready now, odds are already available.



Again, SMB has very attractive odds, they are still a slight underdog, but we know what they did last game. This is a close out game, I expect that they will play very hard so they will not be in the position to a possible elimination in game 5.

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December 20, 2022, 12:19:05 PM
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Well, it doesn't matter for fans as long as they are entertained with the games then they can spend more money into it. I mean I will spend as well if I know it will be worth it. Both games are enjoyable to watch I agree, and it will be more enjoyable in the PBA Finals.

Lee is a difference maker in the series. Him playing give them the victory in Game 2 but him not playing is just like "you let your team get demolished" or they really got demolished literally in Game 3. If Lee will not play in Game 4, it's over for them but some say that he will play so that's good news for them.

Ginebra Vs. Dragons in the PBA Finals will make the arena filled with Ginebra fans that's for sure. People will be happy and at the same time, Comm. Marcial will be happy. A win-win situation Cheesy.

I feel you, if the game is worth to watch then spending money is not a problem in the fans' eyes watching games that brings the enjoyment that they wanted to see is something that priceless. Not everything is about the money but the entertainment that the league is providing, especially now that the economy is starting to bounce back, and the timing of this holiday season where bonuses are just around the corner, commissioner Marcial and his gang will have that prosperous holiday celebrations.

For sure, if Gin kings and Bay Area will meet in the finals, the visiting team will realize how huge the fans will support the Brgy. might be a good motivation for them but more for the crowd's favorite Brgy.

Get that money ready now, odds are already available.



Again, SMB has very attractive odds, they are still a slight underdog, but we know what they did last game. This is a close out game, I expect that they will play very hard so they will not be in the position to a possible elimination in game 5.

Both underdog is capable of winning the game, tough pick but for those brave souls they can parlay both Brgy and SMB if luck permits
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December 20, 2022, 01:00:40 PM
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Get that money ready now, odds are already available.

I am surprised to see that Magnolia is slightly favored to win the next game. This is the opposite of the popular prediction here that Ginebra will end the series in game 4. Maybe the bookies are setting up a trap or they really think that Magnolia can tie the series. Anyway, the odds of Ginebra is very tempting, especially for their backers. San Miguel is quite tempting too but against Bay Area Dragon, it is risky to just go for the money line. I think the +5.5 for SMB is a better line. This will be a sure bet if we base it on Game 1 or 3.
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December 20, 2022, 02:31:54 PM
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Maybe that win against the Dragons gives SMB more confidence in their next game. Actually, they can really win against the Dragons as we see way back in their Game 1 but just lack of fuel to seal that win. We will see next game if SMB can force a deciding game next and put the Dragons on verge of elimination.

On the other hand, though, Dragons will surely do anything to make sure that SMB won't bounce back anymore. Seeing them lose twice in a row will be their first time if SMB will manage to beat them again. A blow-by-blow situation next game that we can expect to witness.

  - You are right there, for sure in the next confrontation between these two teams the Bay Dragons and SMB, it will be a fierce battle again on the court.

I just hope that SMB can control the Bay dragons again in their next match, though, I also know that it will be bloody and a challenge for the SMB team to be honest, but if each of their teams just has a really strong team work in the middle of the battle it will be easy for SMB to win, but if they only rely on one or two allies they will have a hard time winning for sure.
SMB vs Bay Area dragon next game for sure SMB will win again cause I believe that SMB can manage and handle the game against Bay Area like what they do in game 3 even though in first quarter Bay Area manage the lead but in the end of the game A beautiful play by SMB is the reason why they win. Looking forward from magnolia vs Ginebra then for sure in game four magnolia will win and in game 5 Ginebra will win.

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December 20, 2022, 08:48:46 PM
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SMB vs Bay Area dragon next game for sure SMB will win again cause I believe that SMB can manage and handle the game against Bay Area like what they do in game 3 even though in first quarter Bay Area manage the lead but in the end of the game A beautiful play by SMB is the reason why they win. Looking forward from magnolia vs Ginebra then for sure in game four magnolia will win and in game 5 Ginebra will win.

Also hoping that SMB would win game4  and extend this series to game5 but the way I saw it on game2 and game3, very hard for them to do the job as they need to execute perfectly their plays against a more talented and taller Dragons but that game3 win might also give them confidence which might be a catalyst for that beeracle that I'm longing to happen hehe.

Dragons - 1.43
Beermen - 2.78

^^ ML odds for tonight's game, won't bet pre-game today but will wait and observe during game time if there's an opportunity to bet for SMB Beermen.


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December 20, 2022, 11:48:29 PM
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Get that money ready now, odds are already available.

Odds are now slightly adjusted at this moment, especially on the Manila Clasico:

From @1.77, Magnolia is now @1.85 to win the game.
From @1.94, Brgy. Ginebra is now @1.86 to win the game.

This just shows us how bookies think that this game will be close.

Anyways, already place a parlay on Ginebra and Dragons Moneyline.

Good luck bettors!

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December 21, 2022, 09:09:34 AM
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Ginebra controlling the entire game since the start. It seems or maybe we should conclude now that Ginebra will enter the Finals. Even Stanhardinger was ejected early in the game due to Flagrant 1 Penalty II, doesn't seems a problem for Ginebra. The hot shooting on Ginebra just continues even if those shots are defended well. Magnolia has no answer.

3 minutes left in the final quarter and the score was: Brgy. Ginebra  94 | Magnolia 78 - Just waiting for the Final score.

Congrats Ginebra fans.

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