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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 17, 2022, 05:57:55 PM
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NLEX vs DYIP is a God matchup  they are both in the lower bracket so it's will be a good one

Sounds funny to me as I don't see how that match becomes a good matchup. Terrafirma is now catching up with Blackwater on the record of a losing streak in the history of PBA. Blackwater has 29 losing streaks as the title holder while Terrafirma has 21 now. They are 0-9 this conference and they might end up with no win.

Their last 3 games are against the upcoming NLEX Road Warriors, San Miguel Beermen, and Phoenix FuelMaster.

I don't see how can they win against these teams.
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November 17, 2022, 07:12:07 PM
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NLEX vs DYIP is a God matchup  they are both in the lower bracket so it's will be a good one

Sounds funny to me as I don't see how that match becomes a good matchup. Terrafirma is now catching up with Blackwater on the record of a losing streak in the history of PBA. Blackwater has 29 losing streaks as the title holder while Terrafirma has 21 now. They are 0-9 this conference and they might end up with no win.

Their last 3 games are against the upcoming NLEX Road Warriors, San Miguel Beermen, and Phoenix FuelMaster.

I don't see how can they win against these teams.

Maybe a miracle or a good manipulating hands from the "hulog" squad hahaha but kidding aside, I don't see them winning from any of those remaining teams, the fact that all those teams are really aiming to win to make sure that they will have the chance to move to the playoof, it's an important game to get a chance for the remaining slot, so for sure it will be a tough games that they will have for the remaining games from this season.

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November 18, 2022, 06:54:58 AM
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For those who are looking for the betting spread, here are the spreads.

As expected, NLEX And Ginebra are favorites in their respective games.

NLEX -7.5 and Ginebra -12.5. Question is, would you be brave enough to take that -12.5 knowing Ginebra will likely win the game?

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November 18, 2022, 09:17:39 AM
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For those who are looking for the betting spread, here are the spreads.

As expected, NLEX And Ginebra are favorites in their respective games.

NLEX -7.5 and Ginebra -12.5. Question is, would you be brave enough to take that -12.5 knowing Ginebra will likely win the game?

I missed the first game, it's already on going now and it looks like DYIP here has a big chance of winning. The game went to OT, the score now is 112-119 with less than 3 minutes left in the OT period. Good luck DYIP, break that cold streak.  Smiley
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November 18, 2022, 11:47:18 AM
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For those who are looking for the betting spread, here are the spreads.

As expected, NLEX And Ginebra are favorites in their respective games.

NLEX -7.5 and Ginebra -12.5. Question is, would you be brave enough to take that -12.5 knowing Ginebra will likely win the game?

I missed the first game, it's already on going now and it looks like DYIP here has a big chance of winning. The game went to OT, the score now is 112-119 with less than 3 minutes left in the OT period. Good luck DYIP, break that cold streak.  Smiley
DYIP won and ended their 25 game losing streak, what a win for them.
NLEX really needs to reorganize their players and have a better plan and strategy. This is very unfortunate for them, but expected at the lower position. My mistake to place a bet with NLEX, I thought they have a better chance here. Game 2, is for Ginebra and Blackwater as expected Ginebra leading all the way hoping to get some win tonight on my bet.

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November 18, 2022, 11:53:39 AM
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DYIP won and ended their 25 game losing streak, what a win for them.
NLEX really needs to reorganize their players and have a better plan and strategy. This is very unfortunate for them, but expected at the lower position. My mistake to place a bet with NLEX, I thought they have a better chance here. Game 2, is for Ginebra and Blackwater as expected Ginebra leading all the way hoping to get some win tonight on my bet.

I also failed to bet on these games tonight but if I have bet then most likely I would lose in the second game as I won't bet for the DYIP on this stage of the conference but it is just good to know that their losing streak has ended and as a bettor on the PBA, I hope that this could give them a much-needed boost to play hard and hope to win more games in the future.
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November 18, 2022, 12:12:19 PM
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SMB is my team but this conference I'm not seeing any exciting or entertaining game plan, seems like they are just doing a practice games with no hard attempts or eagerness in winning the game, no offense just like what I said I'm a fan but without Fajardo the team continue to struggle most of their games they lost in the last few minutes of the game.

Though by looking on their squad, they still have the players who in papers are capable of competing and can stand and take any challenges from any team from the league.

Just the plays and executions are not favoring them compared when Fajardo is around.

It's true what you said, like you friend, I've been SMB's number 1 fan since the 90's.
I also saw and watched Fajardo's game and behavior, his skills in playing basketball are undeniable that it will be really difficult to face or stop his attack to score.

So it's true that he's gone from his team, it's a big loss for his team from the defense and points as well to be honest, that's what I noticed when Fajardo was in or out.

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November 18, 2022, 01:10:29 PM
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SMB is my team but this conference I'm not seeing any exciting or entertaining game plan, seems like they are just doing a practice games with no hard attempts or eagerness in winning the game, no offense just like what I said I'm a fan but without Fajardo the team continue to struggle most of their games they lost in the last few minutes of the game.

Though by looking on their squad, they still have the players who in papers are capable of competing and can stand and take any challenges from any team from the league.

Just the plays and executions are not favoring them compared when Fajardo is around.

It's true what you said, like you friend, I've been SMB's number 1 fan since the 90's.
I also saw and watched Fajardo's game and behavior, his skills in playing basketball are undeniable that it will be really difficult to face or stop his attack to score.

So it's true that he's gone from his team, it's a big loss for his team from the defense and points as well to be honest, that's what I noticed when Fajardo was in or out.

In all Filipino cup them Fajardo is the best or let's say he is the goat of PBA because of his height and movement speed and that's the reason why is better than another local player, and also the one thing why I like Fajardo is that he is very good man very polite and helpful.
Back to the game to day then I'll surprised that terrafirma win against NLEX and claim their first victory in this conference and a big points from their import and also by cams on.

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November 18, 2022, 01:49:15 PM
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DYIP won and ended their 25 game losing streak, what a win for them.
NLEX really needs to reorganize their players and have a better plan and strategy. This is very unfortunate for them, but expected at the lower position. My mistake to place a bet with NLEX, I thought they have a better chance here. Game 2, is for Ginebra and Blackwater as expected Ginebra leading all the way hoping to get some win tonight on my bet.
Many thought that the Dyip will try and make a new record for most consecutive losses in PBA history. It looks like they aren't since they got a win already.
Did anybody watch the whole game? I mean what is the reaction of the Dyip team when they got the victory? Blackwater was very happy when they got their first win after 29 straight losses against Magnolia so I expect that it will be the same for the Dyip team.

On the other hand, looks like NLEX getting Coach Frankie Lim as their head coach isn't working as the team are now in a 5-game losing streak. They might still clinch the playoffs at the bottom 8 if they will win on their last 2 games and other teams will lose. In PBA conference, you need at least 6 wins to have a higher chance to advance to the playoffs.

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November 18, 2022, 04:33:07 PM
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On the other hand, looks like NLEX getting Coach Frankie Lim as their head coach isn't working as the team are now in a 5-game losing streak. They might still clinch the playoffs at the bottom 8 if they will win on their last 2 games and other teams will lose. In PBA conference, you need at least 6 wins to have a higher chance to advance to the playoffs.

That's very evident, but if you look at the rain or shine as well, they are struggling also, so probably this is just part of the transition period as the new head coach is just trying to build a system and a chemistry that would be working for the team. This is just one conference, there's still more to come, so hopefully both teams mentioned will improve.



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November 18, 2022, 09:39:22 PM
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On the other hand, looks like NLEX getting Coach Frankie Lim as their head coach isn't working as the team are now in a 5-game losing streak. They might still clinch the playoffs at the bottom 8 if they will win on their last 2 games and other teams will lose. In PBA conference, you need at least 6 wins to have a higher chance to advance to the playoffs.

That's very evident, but if you look at the rain or shine as well, they are struggling also, so probably this is just part of the transition period as the new head coach is just trying to build a system and a chemistry that would be working for the team. This is just one conference, there's still more to come, so hopefully both teams mentioned will improve.
The best finish NLEX in PBA was in Semi-finals as far as I know but they always struggle. So looking for a good chemistry, good coaching staff and strategy will be crucial for them. Let’s say this is part of the transitions and probably will take at least two conference before they manage to have a good plays, too sad that they have a good local players yet they are not utilizing it. This could be one of the worst conference for NLEX.

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November 18, 2022, 09:43:40 PM
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For those who are looking for the betting spread, here are the spreads.

As expected, NLEX And Ginebra are favorites in their respective games.

NLEX -7.5 and Ginebra -12.5. Question is, would you be brave enough to take that -12.5 knowing Ginebra will likely win the game?

I missed the first game, it's already on going now and it looks like DYIP here has a big chance of winning. The game went to OT, the score now is 112-119 with less than 3 minutes left in the OT period. Good luck DYIP, break that cold streak.  Smiley
Finally a win for them, and that’s a huge celebration for them.
This could be the game change for them which I think still need a lot of work before they finally enter the winning column. We might still see them have some win because a lot of unexpected team are on the lower standing, that could be a golden opportunity for DYIP. The next matches will be crucial for the positioning, we are getting closer for the next round.
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November 18, 2022, 11:08:44 PM
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Finally a win for them, and that’s a huge celebration for them.
This could be the game change for them which I think still need a lot of work before they finally enter the winning column. We might still see them have some win because a lot of unexpected team are on the lower standing, that could be a golden opportunity for DYIP. The next matches will be crucial for the positioning, we are getting closer for the next round.

Terrafirma's next matches are San Miguel Beermen and Phoenix. They can still affect the standing of San Miguel if they can beat them. San Miguel right now needs every win they can get in order to get into the next round. Dyip can deny that chance if they can beat the beermen. The odds are against them beating the SMB but still, this is basketball, anything can happen. 


On the other hand, looks like NLEX getting Coach Frankie Lim as their head coach isn't working as the team are now in a 5-game losing streak. They might still clinch the playoffs at the bottom 8 if they will win on their last 2 games and other teams will lose. In PBA conference, you need at least 6 wins to have a higher chance to advance to the playoffs.

That's very evident, but if you look at the rain or shine as well, they are struggling also, so probably this is just part of the transition period as the new head coach is just trying to build a system and a chemistry that would be working for the team. This is just one conference, there's still more to come, so hopefully both teams mentioned will improve.

That probably is. There are only 12 games in this conference, and that is not enough to integrate a new system into your team. We will see the impact of the new coach next season. They should have plenty of time to practice, get accustomed to the new system and win with it.
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November 19, 2022, 04:34:00 AM
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Terrafirma's next matches are San Miguel Beermen and Phoenix. They can still affect the standing of San Miguel if they can beat them. San Miguel right now needs every win they can get in order to get into the next round. Dyip can deny that chance if they can beat the beermen. The odds are against them beating the SMB but still, this is basketball, anything can happen. 

Though DYIP won its last game against NLEX but i do think that SMB Beermen will demolish them because like you said that every game is a must-win for the Beermen and also there a good news for the SMB Beermen fans out there, rumors have it that Junemar Fajardo will suit up for today's game against Phoenix which is a good tune-up for him for that game against DYIP on their next outing.

Beermen -9.5 @2.64 vs Phoenix

Risky bet but will take the risk because of Junemar's presence.
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Finally a win for them, and that’s a huge celebration for them.
This could be the game change for them which I think still need a lot of work before they finally enter the winning column. We might still see them have some win because a lot of unexpected team are on the lower standing, that could be a golden opportunity for DYIP. The next matches will be crucial for the positioning, we are getting closer for the next round.

Terrafirma's next matches are San Miguel Beermen and Phoenix. They can still affect the standing of San Miguel if they can beat them. San Miguel right now needs every win they can get in order to get into the next round. Dyip can deny that chance if they can beat the beermen. The odds are against them beating the SMB but still, this is basketball, anything can happen. 

This is why all eyes are with SMB because many still want them to get into the next round but their up coming matches guarantees nothing for them.
They have to perform their very best if they really want to get a win, this is crucial for many teams. DYIP can make a twist on the standing especially now that they get a win, probably they are eager to get more wins so SMB have to be more ready for anything. Local players should continue to help their import, they need to work as a team this time.
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Terrafirma's next matches are San Miguel Beermen and Phoenix. They can still affect the standing of San Miguel if they can beat them. San Miguel right now needs every win they can get in order to get into the next round. Dyip can deny that chance if they can beat the beermen. The odds are against them beating the SMB but still, this is basketball, anything can happen. 

Though DYIP won its last game against NLEX but i do think that SMB Beermen will demolish them because like you said that every game is a must-win for the Beermen and also there a good news for the SMB Beermen fans out there, rumors have it that Junemar Fajardo will suit up for today's game against Phoenix which is a good tune-up for him for that game against DYIP on their next outing.

Beermen -9.5 @2.64 vs Phoenix

Risky bet but will take the risk because of Junemar's presence.
Both the Beermen and the Fuelmasters are in a 2-game losing streak, but JMF playing might change the complexion of the game though I believe that he will not play that many minutes because of his injury. I mean he might play but not in his usual form.

The remaining 4 games of the Beermen will be crucial. Winning them all will give them a 7-5 record after elimination and that record might land them to around 6-8th spot depending on the situation. Losing 2 of their remaining 4 games will increase the chances of the team to get eliminated. I'm a SMB fan for a long time already and I know that the team isn't performing very well when it comes to a conference that has import (at least in the past few years). It's always Ginebra that comes on top. Surprisingly, the MVP teams are currently at the bottom. Meralco at 7th, TNT at 8th and NLEX at 11th. Is this the time for independent teams to come on top now? Cheesy

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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.

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November 19, 2022, 12:58:05 PM
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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.
That was a good game for SMB even without JMF, they are still hanging there and hoping for more wins so they can have the chance for next round.
The game between Magnolia vs Bay Area is indeed a great match, it looks like a finals. Magnolia is down by at least 3 points only and still have the chance to tie or force an OT. As expected this is a high scoring game, watchin the whole quarter and its really hard to pick who will win because there's no safe lead for both teams.

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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.
That was a good game for SMB even without JMF, they are still hanging there and hoping for more wins so they can have the chance for next round.
The game between Magnolia vs Bay Area is indeed a great match, it looks like a finals. Magnolia is down by at least 3 points only and still have the chance to tie or force an OT. As expected this is a high scoring game, watchin the whole quarter and its really hard to pick who will win because there's no safe lead for both teams.
There are still a few minutes left and the lead is very much manageable by Magnolia. If they lose this game, they still should be proud of themselves as Dragons are used to dominating their opponent but what we are witnessing now is a close game where Magnolia is not giving up this game.

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November 19, 2022, 01:37:56 PM
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SMB won but did not cover the spread. I guess Fajardo did not play, if he did, then most likely they will cover the spread. Bad pick for bettors who choose the spread of SMB as the game was a bit close and Phoenix was able to ensure covering the spread.

The current game between Magnolia vs the Dragons is quite entertaining, Magnolia will be heavily tested here.

It is a much-needed win for them. I thought that Phoenix will spoil the win of San Miguel when they reduced the lead of the Beermen to just 1 point in the last few seconds of the game. But the Beermen was confident and eager to get a win today. They made the necessary buckets and stops to secure the win against the Phoenix Fuel Masters.

SMB improved to 4-5 standing. They are now tied with Meralco Bolts and TNT Tropang GIGA.

SMB next game is an easier one against Terrafirma Dyip but they still need to prepare. They cannot afford going easy against them. They cannot afford an upset against them right now.

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