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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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January 09, 2023, 11:56:44 PM
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The Bay Area Dragons are still at disadvantage next game. Expect the odds for them will be over at @2 again in Game 6.

It's now official that Andrew Nicholson won't play the next game. He is not yet fit to play according to the team's source.

With that, Ginebra can close out the series with a high chance but Dragons won't surely allow that to happen easily.
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January 10, 2023, 05:20:12 AM
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This upcoming January 11 Bay area dragon will push to continue their journey here in the series and 1 more win ginebra will be the king and the champion in this season,  what a good play by both teams as we can see that they are doing great. But the most I impresses is that when ginebra how they manage their ball movement. And by the help of their import Justin Brownlee, they win the match and also Japeth   he is doing good also.

   I think that because the PBA has been doing such styles for a long time that they will make more money by extending game 7. Now, it will be even harder to get tickets, because they are the scalpers who wholesale the tickets, and then they will sell more dear to those like this finals.

I'm asking a friend of mine to help me watch it too, but he hasn't been able to find me yet because the scalpers are holding him back. So the Bay area dragons will probably win tomorrow, it will be a tough battle again for sure.



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January 10, 2023, 05:27:47 AM
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The Bay Area Dragons are still at disadvantage next game. Expect the odds for them will be over at @2 again in Game 6.

It's now official that Andrew Nicholson won't play the next game. He is not yet fit to play according to the team's source.

With that, Ginebra can close out the series with a high chance but Dragons won't surely allow that to happen easily.
Nicholson will not play in Game 6 but guess what... the Dragons reactivated Myles Powell and he will play in Game 6. Facebook page "One Sports" posted it 20 mins ago. Sorry I needed to put it into bold because I believe this might be a turnaround of the series.

With the Dragons on a must-win situation, they must use any strategies that they needed to in order to extend the series into 7 games. I also believe that this game will excite me to watch because we didn't see Powell play against the Ginebra in the whole conference. This is his first time so there are many questions to him. Will he score more than 30+ points again like what he used to do in eliminations? Will he play well against the Ginebra? Will his foot injury not hinder him to be the main scorer he used to be back in eliminations?

Those questions will be answered on Wednesday but one thing for sure, I'm excited with this news and for sure many are also excited as well.

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January 10, 2023, 06:32:34 AM
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The Bay Area Dragons are still at disadvantage next game. Expect the odds for them will be over at @2 again in Game 6.

It's now official that Andrew Nicholson won't play the next game. He is not yet fit to play according to the team's source.

With that, Ginebra can close out the series with a high chance but Dragons won't surely allow that to happen easily.
Nicholson will not play in Game 6 but guess what... the Dragons reactivated Myles Powell and he will play in Game 6. Facebook page "One Sports" posted it 20 mins ago. Sorry I needed to put it into bold because I believe this might be a turnaround of the series.

With the Dragons on a must-win situation, they must use any strategies that they needed to in order to extend the series into 7 games. I also believe that this game will excite me to watch because we didn't see Powell play against the Ginebra in the whole conference. This is his first time so there are many questions to him. Will he score more than 30+ points again like what he used to do in eliminations? Will he play well against the Ginebra? Will his foot injury not hinder him to be the main scorer he used to be back in eliminations?

Those questions will be answered on Wednesday but one thing for sure, I'm excited with this news and for sure many are also excited as well.
If this is just between local teams, especially smc and mvp, it won't be as exciting as this. I'm rooting for Bay Area to push this series to game 7 with Powell being reactivated. They should have done it as early as Game 4 to have a chance in better standing. Always take the advantage if there is one. Now, the pressure is even greater since they are the ones in a do-or-die situation.
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January 10, 2023, 10:59:09 AM
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Yeah, that fact will not change until the trade and draft situations will change. SMC and MVP teams are always taking the advantage of it while the other teams that don't have any plans of winning are becoming their farm teams. It's not just the fans are aware of it and even the other teams and coaching staff are aware of it but they can't speak ill against the management because for sure Al and Marcial will give them a notice and will call them to their office. LOL

SMC and MVP only have the power to spend big money on getting good players. We can't blame the independent teams if they are left behind. As for players, why they will stick to these independent teams if there are big offers from big companies? It just makes sense to think that SMC and MVP will always have the advantage.

But there is an independent team that is serious about building a legacy and they are the only ones that I see being active in furnishing their roster.

I'm referring to Converge and hope they will repeat they're good rally next conference and be able to find a good import in the Governors' Cup.


No further comment with that capabilities and with how players will take the approach from both SMC and MVP, the perks of playing with high paying team plus those outside the contract benefits, something that we can't blame those stars who got the opportunities to play with those big franchise that owns by these two giant companies.

With regard to independent teams, I also hope that Converge will continue being competitive and adding to the team is Rain or Shine. I'm hoping that after re-acquiring coach Yeng, he will bring the competitiveness of this team.

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January 10, 2023, 11:07:30 AM
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If this is just between local teams, especially smc and mvp, it won't be as exciting as this. I'm rooting for Bay Area to push this series to game 7 with Powell being reactivated. They should have done it as early as Game 4 to have a chance in better standing. Always take the advantage if there is one. Now, the pressure is even greater since they are the ones in a do-or-die situation.

I think that their priority import is Nicholson and they are waiting for him to get better at this stage but it didn't come that way, i mean his injury has worsen or not yet healed as of this time while Powell is more usable than him. Let's not be deceived with this activation of Powell because he is not 100 percent healthy, people might think that it is good to bet now for the Dragons as Powell will be playing but this might be just a mind game for the coach of the Dragons.

Note that once they replace Nicholson, the Dragons can't revert back to him as an import, would be Powell till game 7 if needed.

But nevertheless, it's welcome news for the backers of the Dragons that somehow the Dragons will have an import playing in game 6.

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January 10, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
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If this is just between local teams, especially smc and mvp, it won't be as exciting as this. I'm rooting for Bay Area to push this series to game 7 with Powell being reactivated. They should have done it as early as Game 4 to have a chance in better standing. Always take the advantage if there is one. Now, the pressure is even greater since they are the ones in a do-or-die situation.

I think that their priority import is Nicholson and they are waiting for him to get better at this stage but it didn't come that way, i mean his injury has worsen or not yet healed as of this time while Powell is more usable than him. Let's not be deceived with this activation of Powell because he is not 100 percent healthy, people might think that it is good to bet now for the Dragons as Powell will be playing but this might be just a mind game for the coach of the Dragons.

Note that once they replace Nicholson, the Dragons can't revert back to him as an import, would be Powell till game 7 if needed.

But nevertheless, it's welcome news for the backers of the Dragons that somehow the Dragons will have an import playing in game 6.

I think Nicholson is not yet 100%, and they already accepted that they can't change their import anymore. Well, they have to choose, if they have an import and they will win game 6, that means they have a chance to win game 7, so it's the right decision to activate Powell and let him help the team to win and take the game to 7 series.

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January 10, 2023, 01:34:39 PM
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If this is just between local teams, especially smc and mvp, it won't be as exciting as this. I'm rooting for Bay Area to push this series to game 7 with Powell being reactivated. They should have done it as early as Game 4 to have a chance in better standing. Always take the advantage if there is one. Now, the pressure is even greater since they are the ones in a do-or-die situation.

I think that their priority import is Nicholson and they are waiting for him to get better at this stage but it didn't come that way, i mean his injury has worsen or not yet healed as of this time while Powell is more usable than him. Let's not be deceived with this activation of Powell because he is not 100 percent healthy, people might think that it is good to bet now for the Dragons as Powell will be playing but this might be just a mind game for the coach of the Dragons.

Note that once they replace Nicholson, the Dragons can't revert back to him as an import, would be Powell till game 7 if needed.

But nevertheless, it's welcome news for the backers of the Dragons that somehow the Dragons will have an import playing in game 6.

This match of game 6 is quite exciting, to be honest. Questions Will Ginebra close out the game in Game 6? o Will the Bay area dragons force a win in Game 6 to have a game 7 do-or-die?

These are the questions that no one knows, this is the game that makes me nervous hehe...But I expect that the defense that the bay area dragons will do in game 6 will be strong, which will also make it difficult for Ginebra even if it is said that Brownlee is there. This is just my opinion, so the standing score is probably 3-3.


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January 10, 2023, 01:35:37 PM
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Yeah, that fact will not change until the trade and draft situations will change. SMC and MVP teams are always taking the advantage of it while the other teams that don't have any plans of winning are becoming their farm teams. It's not just the fans are aware of it and even the other teams and coaching staff are aware of it but they can't speak ill against the management because for sure Al and Marcial will give them a notice and will call them to their office. LOL

It is what it is in PBA. I think it will not change as long as there is no rule prohibiting it and that farm teams allow themselves to be farm teams.
 
I am just thankful that this guest team is strong, and they were able to give us good competition against the top team of SMC. PBA has not been this exciting for a long time now. Hopefully, we still see strong guest teams next conference or season. I hope they still want to come even after the allegation of bias referees and fixing games.
Yeah, it's actually good that the Bay Area Dragons are a strong team and this is a wake-up call to all of the teams. Honestly, I want to see more guests team now.
They're more entertaining to watch and they're adding flavor to the PBA. There are other strong teams from different leagues like EASL and other leagues in South East Asia. If the PBA management allows more of them at the same time, that's going to be like a royal rumble in the league and that will gather more fans getting back their interest in it.

Yeah, that fact will not change until the trade and draft situations will change. SMC and MVP teams are always taking the advantage of it while the other teams that don't have any plans of winning are becoming their farm teams. It's not just the fans are aware of it and even the other teams and coaching staff are aware of it but they can't speak ill against the management because for sure Al and Marcial will give them a notice and will call them to their office. LOL

SMC and MVP only have the power to spend big money on getting good players. We can't blame the independent teams if they are left behind. As for players, why they will stick to these independent teams if there are big offers from big companies? It just makes sense to think that SMC and MVP will always have the advantage.

But there is an independent team that is serious about building a legacy and they are the only ones that I see being active in furnishing their roster.

I'm referring to Converge and hope they will repeat they're good rally next conference and be able to find a good import in the Governors' Cup.
The players have also no option if they've been picked to be traded to other teams. That's why some good players have chosen to play in abroad leagues like KBL and B League and that's because there's no assurance of career in the PBA unless the team becomes loyal to you.

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January 10, 2023, 09:42:39 PM
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Yeah, it's actually good that the Bay Area Dragons are a strong team and this is a wake-up call to all of the teams. Honestly, I want to see more guests team now.
They're more entertaining to watch and they're adding flavor to the PBA. There are other strong teams from different leagues like EASL and other leagues in South East Asia. If the PBA management allows more of them at the same time, that's going to be like a royal rumble in the league and that will gather more fans getting back their interest in it.

I doubt that it is a wake-up call for the PBA management to have a strong guest team because team owners like the SMC group and MVP group won't mind that one because as i saw it they will do whatever they want to strengthen their teams and the commissioner got no power stopping it hehe but i do agree that it is good to have a strong guest team every now and then to check with reality how are we faring with other countries in this game we love.

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January 10, 2023, 09:52:57 PM
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Yeah, it's actually good that the Bay Area Dragons are a strong team and this is a wake-up call to all of the teams. Honestly, I want to see more guests team now.
They're more entertaining to watch and they're adding flavor to the PBA. There are other strong teams from different leagues like EASL and other leagues in South East Asia. If the PBA management allows more of them at the same time, that's going to be like a royal rumble in the league and that will gather more fans getting back their interest in it.

I doubt that it is a wake-up call for the PBA management to have a strong guest team because team owners like the SMC group and MVP group won't mind that one because as i saw it they will do whatever they want to strengthen their teams and the commissioner got no power stopping it hehe but i do agree that it is good to have a strong guest team every now and then to check with reality how are we faring with other countries in this game we love.

Dragons 1.64, Kings 2.22

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.
Many think that this is the last game and I hope that it will so that the Gin Kings already prevail as this season's champion. As for the management of PBA and the SMC and MVP teams.
If the PSC starts to step in and tries to argue against the PBA management then for sure that there's going to be some clarity on what they're doing not unless PSC will also be having that under the table from the SMC and MVP teams.

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January 10, 2023, 10:07:23 PM
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A tough decision by the Bay Area Dragons who decided to just allow Myles Powell to play in Game 6 despite not in 100% healthy status. Even clear to play and join ing the Dragon's practice every time, he is still not on his usual playing level. Dragons face the risks here as Game 6 is their decisive game and losing one more game is not even a situation they should allow to happen.

I'm just curious about the way bookies provided the odds just because Powell was activated as the gap of odds is really distant and Bay Area Dragons is a clear favorite to win on Game 6 by bookies. Ginebra 2.2 seriously over Dragons 1.6?

Didn't they know that since Powell will now be able to play, it will just give more excitement to the Brgy. Ginebra to play at their best especially since they know that fans are awaiting the face-off of Justin Brownlee and Myles Powell. The return of Powell will just fuel the inner strength of Justin Brownlee.

If only Powell is at 100%, I will consider him as a threat. But that's not the case here and I hope that by forcing himself to play, no further injury will happen.

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If ever Powell will be sidelined again, there's no choice for the Dragons but to play without an import if the game will be extended to the final series game.

As part of the agreement with the league and as I mentioned before, there's no chance for Nicholson to come back if Powell will be back on the roster.

2 possible games left for them and I think that shouldn't be a big deal as they really need all the reinforcement they can get from their import.

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.

One of the big reasons why I avoid and skip the per-game betting here in our place is because every game is really unpredictable.

Even though I'm rooting for Ginebra to win, the Dragons won't surely allow making things easy for Ginebra. Can't wait to watch the game.

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If only Powell is at 100%, I will consider him as a threat. But that's not the case here and I hope that by forcing himself to play, no further injury will happen.
You know how PBA players are when it comes to physicality right?
I like Powell to play the whole game or at least without any restriction if possible. Well, let's just hope that he will not injure his foot during the game.


If ever Powell will be sidelined again, there's no choice for the Dragons but to play without an import if the game will be extended to the final series game.

As part of the agreement with the league and as I mentioned before, there's no chance for Nicholson to come back if Powell will be back on the roster.

2 possible games left for them and I think that shouldn't be a big deal as they really need all the reinforcement they can get from their import.
They have no choice, so they just went to the best choice possible and that is to activate Powell in exchange for Nicholson.
They saw that Nicholson can't play in Game 6 and obviously, their chances of winning will be higher if they will have an import thus, they reactivated Powell and gambled on it even though he has a foot injury.

Overall, a better decision for the Dragons than just to play in a must-win game without any import at all.

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January 11, 2023, 05:59:54 AM
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A tough decision by the Bay Area Dragons who decided to just allow Myles Powell to play in Game 6 despite not in 100% healthy status. Even clear to play and join ing the Dragon's practice every time, he is still not on his usual playing level. Dragons face the risks here as Game 6 is their decisive game and losing one more game is not even a situation they should allow to happen.

I'm just curious about the way bookies provided the odds just because Powell was activated as the gap of odds is really distant and Bay Area Dragons is a clear favorite to win on Game 6 by bookies. Ginebra 2.2 seriously over Dragons 1.6?

Didn't they know that since Powell will now be able to play, it will just give more excitement to the Brgy. Ginebra to play at their best especially since they know that fans are awaiting the face-off of Justin Brownlee and Myles Powell. The return of Powell will just fuel the inner strength of Justin Brownlee.

If only Powell is at 100%, I will consider him as a threat. But that's not the case here and I hope that by forcing himself to play, no further injury will happen.

    -  Well, since the game in PBA is too unpredictable, it always happen the unexpected things. Others may think that Ginebra fans will seize the opportunity to win the championship, but it won't be easy for this team.

Because it is also certain that it will not be easy because the Bay area is not just a simple wall that Ginebra can easily overcome. If we remember the Bay area beat them even though it didn't have an import playing on their team. So let's see and wait for the next chapters.

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January 11, 2023, 06:39:51 AM
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I think we have the easiest bet today. I'm thinking that Ginebra will lose because game 7 will not happen if they will win. This is written in the script already, and if you guys believe that like me, I think that -3.5 Bay Area is a huge gift now.

Your thoughts on this...

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January 11, 2023, 07:53:24 AM
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I think we have the easiest bet today. I'm thinking that Ginebra will lose because game 7 will not happen if they will win. This is written in the script already, and if you guys believe that like me, I think that -3.5 Bay Area is a huge gift now.

Your thoughts on this...

I agree, probably the PBA are already planning to where this game 7 will be held. I'm pretty sure those who are active in sports betting understands how PBA work, Bay Area has been complaining with the calls, I think game 6 they will be given a favor.  Good luck mate, I think you did the right call.

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January 11, 2023, 10:24:14 AM
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If ever Powell will be sidelined again, there's no choice for the Dragons but to play without an import if the game will be extended to the final series game.

As part of the agreement with the league and as I mentioned before, there's no chance for Nicholson to come back if Powell will be back on the roster.

2 possible games left for them and I think that shouldn't be a big deal as they really need all the reinforcement they can get from their import.

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.

One of the big reasons why I avoid and skip the per-game betting here in our place is because every game is really unpredictable.

For me if Powell will came back to the dragon it is very hard for ginebra to win the game it because we all know that Powell is very aggressive and accurate in shooting and also with the help of lam and their 7.5 center for sure ginebra will feel the different. But still I'll go for ginebra no matter what happen still I'll bet on ginebra San Miguel.


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Even though I'm rooting for Ginebra to win, the Dragons won't surely allow making things easy for Ginebra. Can't wait to watch the game.
Yes mate you are right that bay area dragon will do their best also to win the match cause it's their honor to be a champion in the PBA league .

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January 11, 2023, 10:34:24 AM
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BAD leading early, with 11 points lead now in the 2nd quarter, and Powell is really doing well despite playing not a hundred percent. Ginebra needs to play more defense, and also the locals needs to contribute more, they cannot rely on Brownlee alone as he will certainly get tired in the end.

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January 11, 2023, 10:47:43 AM
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BAD leading early, with 11 points lead now in the 2nd quarter, and Powell is really doing well despite playing not a hundred percent. Ginebra needs to play more defense, and also the locals needs to contribute more, they cannot rely on Brownlee alone as he will certainly get tired in the end.

Agree, the locals of the Kings need to step-up and help Brownlee on the offensive end as he can't do it alone while the Dragons are so scary right now as all of them were contributing offensively while Powell is so pumped up playing with the crowd. I thought that Blankley and Yang will not play on this game because of injuries on their last games but here they are playing so well at the moment.

Score at the half is 50-42, 8 point lead by the guest team and high chance that we will see game 7.

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