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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 06, 2022, 09:51:25 AM
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Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games.  Grin

But let's also consider that Meralco as an underdog able to close out the game with the Dragons. That said violation that being missed call by a referee doesn't change the fact that Meralco keeps up with the foreign team in the first place, I think only a few imagined that Meralco would win.

Dragons are a tough team but the underdog Meralco finds a way to keep the game close. Even if there's a miss call, we should give credit to Meralco for winning that game. About the ref, a suspension is really a must as refs should not influence the result of the game especially in crucial times.


Thanks to their new import because without him, Meralco will continue to tank. Only 2 teams have defeated the Dragons so far, Ginebra and Meralco and they are not anymore the number 1 team as Magnolia had already replaced them. I like what's happening, it only proved that there's no team now that is a heavy favorite to win the finals.

And when the second round take place then we will all realize that it's just like the same drama either SMC or MVP will be there in the finals, though now only one of them can get the ticket since the Bay Area is really bringing a lot of competitiveness, but I'm not closing the possibilities that a solo franchise will manage to move forward, I'm noticing the hard work of Converge import and how the locals are competing alongside of him.

A good sign that the team is really trying to make their presence be felt by the league. Remember back the old Alaska they are also doing their presence be recognized.

Definitely, our PBA teams are showing that this league is still full of competitive players despite the fact that some of the star players had choose to play abroad. Bay Area is such a talented team they outplayed every team that is not a championship team, but this Meralco team just found their savior, they hired a good import and that is providing them spark now.

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November 06, 2022, 10:59:40 AM
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The first game was boring as expected, Magnolia did dominate the Blackwater with a 22 points victory. But the good news is we are about to witness now the game between SBM and BGSM, I'm sure this will be a close one in which either team could win.

I know Brownlee is good but they are not the number 1 team this conference, so SMB has a chance to win.



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November 06, 2022, 09:34:05 PM
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The first game was boring as expected, Magnolia did dominate the Blackwater with a 22 points victory. But the good news is we are about to witness now the game between SBM and BGSM, I'm sure this will be a close one in which either team could win.

I know Brownlee is good but they are not the number 1 team this conference, so SMB has a chance to win.
As expected the intensity of the game between SMB and Ginebra are very high, Ginebra completes the comeback and the last three point shot by Scottie was amazing. Another loss for SMB where they almost have the chance to take this game unfortunately they failed. They are rumors again about this game but I think that is just a rumor and Ginebra really shows a great game against SMB, they deserve the win.

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November 06, 2022, 10:26:21 PM
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The first game was boring as expected, Magnolia did dominate the Blackwater with a 22 points victory. But the good news is we are about to witness now the game between SBM and BGSM, I'm sure this will be a close one in which either team could win.

I know Brownlee is good but they are not the number 1 team this conference, so SMB has a chance to win.
As expected the intensity of the game between SMB and Ginebra are very high, Ginebra completes the comeback and the last three point shot by Scottie was amazing. Another loss for SMB where they almost have the chance to take this game unfortunately they failed. They are rumors again about this game but I think that is just a rumor and Ginebra really shows a great game against SMB, they deserve the win.

I did not know that the Gins were able to make a comeback. I stopped watching when the lead was double-digit. I thought it was give me this game between sister companies to improve the standing of San Miguel. I guess I was wrong. Now I need to watch the highlights to watch what happened.

I do not know if San Miguel will be able to play in the playoffs. They have tough matches up ahead. They are against Magnolia, Phoenix, Terrafirma and TNT. 3 of those teams are tough team to beat and without June Mar, I am not sure they will be able to win to improve their standings. They are now at #8 with 3-4 win-loss record, tied with NLEX.
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November 06, 2022, 10:37:25 PM
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The first game was boring as expected, Magnolia did dominate the Blackwater with a 22 points victory. But the good news is we are about to witness now the game between SBM and BGSM, I'm sure this will be a close one in which either team could win.

I know Brownlee is good but they are not the number 1 team this conference, so SMB has a chance to win.
As expected the intensity of the game between SMB and Ginebra are very high, Ginebra completes the comeback and the last three point shot by Scottie was amazing. Another loss for SMB where they almost have the chance to take this game unfortunately they failed. They are rumors again about this game but I think that is just a rumor and Ginebra really shows a great game against SMB, they deserve the win.
That's a 19 points comeback as far as I know, so we cannot blame the supporter of SMB for throwing that rumors because we all know they are sister company and both on the lower standing. Ginebra did a great job in the last quarter, they become more precise with their plays and their defensive patterns becomes more accurate. SMB on the other hand also did a great job limiting Ginebra on this game, it's just that the lucky shot of Scottie was shot at the right time.
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November 06, 2022, 11:43:07 PM
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That's a 19 points comeback as far as I know, so we cannot blame the supporter of SMB for throwing that rumors because we all know they are sister company and both on the lower standing.

Even for let's say magic will be applied for BGSM to win, it's hard to do it behind a 19-point comeback.

It's just that SMB choked on that game and when BGSM is now doing some rally, they don't even know what to do.

Too much confidence and I doubt Justin Brownlee himself will be a fan of this "Sagip Kapamilya" scheme. SMB losses and fans need to move on.

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November 06, 2022, 11:45:16 PM
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The first game was boring as expected, Magnolia did dominate the Blackwater with a 22 points victory. But the good news is we are about to witness now the game between SBM and BGSM, I'm sure this will be a close one in which either team could win.

I know Brownlee is good but they are not the number 1 team this conference, so SMB has a chance to win.
As expected the intensity of the game between SMB and Ginebra are very high, Ginebra completes the comeback and the last three point shot by Scottie was amazing. Another loss for SMB where they almost have the chance to take this game unfortunately they failed. They are rumors again about this game but I think that is just a rumor and Ginebra really shows a great game against SMB, they deserve the win.
That's a 19 points comeback as far as I know, so we cannot blame the supporter of SMB for throwing that rumors because we all know they are sister company and both on the lower standing. Ginebra did a great job in the last quarter, they become more precise with their plays and their defensive patterns becomes more accurate. SMB on the other hand also did a great job limiting Ginebra on this game, it's just that the lucky shot of Scottie was shot at the right time.

As always, rumors especially from bettors who got disappointed by how the game ended, I think it's no longer new to PBA that a huge gap is manageable to still lose if you have poor defense and offense in the last quarter, while your opponents did well prohibiting your team to make a good play and score, Ginebra's win for most of the fans will be good and enjoyable, while for us SMB fans, we will not dwell from how we see this game and move forward.

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November 06, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
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As always, rumors especially from bettors who got disappointed by how the game ended, I think it's no longer new to PBA that a huge gap is manageable to still lose if you have poor defense and offense in the last quarter, while your opponents did well prohibiting your team to make a good play and score, Ginebra's win for most of the fans will be good and enjoyable, while for us SMB fans, we will not dwell from how we see this game and move forward.

Don't blame the officiating but rather look at those possible reasons why SMB blew that big lead. I even stopped watching when I saw the big lead as I think SMB will win that game. But when I watched the highlights, I see that Ginebra really puts an effort to cut down the lead.

Justin Brownlee and Scottie Thompson really never gave up. I doubt these 2 will be involved in such a crap plan to allow SMB to win.

Why they will put some effort to force a win if there's a script to allow SMB to win the game?

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November 07, 2022, 05:52:20 AM
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That's a 19 points comeback as far as I know, so we cannot blame the supporter of SMB for throwing that rumors because we all know they are sister company and both on the lower standing.

Even for let's say magic will be applied for BGSM to win, it's hard to do it behind a 19-point comeback.

It's just that SMB choked on that game and when BGSM is now doing some rally, they don't even know what to do.

Too much confidence and I doubt Justin Brownlee himself will be a fan of this "Sagip Kapamilya" scheme. SMB losses and fans need to move on.
They did it against Magnolia and again they did it against San Miguel.

When I saw that huge lead getting diminished slowly, I want to end watching it already, but I put a bet on SMB so I'm hoping. I'm a fan of SMB and there is a time while I'm watching that this is planned, but I just moved on with it, forget what happened and TBH, I'm not expecting too much with SMB this Commissioner's Cup because they've already shown that they aren't that dominating anymore in a conference that has import. Well, I moved on already with that and also lose my bet, but a loss is a loss. What's important is that Ginebra fans are happy both on livestream and on the arena.

What makes me curious is how in the hell SMB choose to complain rather than fouling Ginebra in their final possession. If you watched the whole game, you saw that the lead is only 1 and Ginebra got a steal. In a normal game, the opponent will foul it right? Why didn't they foul them and just choose to let the time runs out and complain?

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As always, rumors especially from bettors who got disappointed by how the game ended, I think it's no longer new to PBA that a huge gap is manageable to still lose if you have poor defense and offense in the last quarter, while your opponents did well prohibiting your team to make a good play and score, Ginebra's win for most of the fans will be good and enjoyable, while for us SMB fans, we will not dwell from how we see this game and move forward.

Don't blame the officiating but rather look at those possible reasons why SMB blew that big lead. I even stopped watching when I saw the big lead as I think SMB will win that game. But when I watched the highlights, I see that Ginebra really puts an effort to cut down the lead.

Justin Brownlee and Scottie Thompson really never gave up. I doubt these 2 will be involved in such a crap plan to allow SMB to win.

Why they will put some effort to force a win if there's a script to allow SMB to win the game?

The timing of that Thompson 3 point really on time, a heart of a legit MVP who's not afraid of taking the last shot even in front of an almost 7foot import, what I'm saying is rumors is not new to PBA I even say the reason why big lead can still lose the game, I'm not against how Ginebra wins the game it's SMB who blow away their big lead while like what you mentioned both Brownlee and Thompson plus Malonzo really play hard to make sure that they are still in the game and it happen that they snatch it from SMB.

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November 07, 2022, 12:03:16 PM
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As always, rumors especially from bettors who got disappointed by how the game ended, I think it's no longer new to PBA that a huge gap is manageable to still lose if you have poor defense and offense in the last quarter, while your opponents did well prohibiting your team to make a good play and score, Ginebra's win for most of the fans will be good and enjoyable, while for us SMB fans, we will not dwell from how we see this game and move forward.

Don't blame the officiating but rather look at those possible reasons why SMB blew that big lead. I even stopped watching when I saw the big lead as I think SMB will win that game. But when I watched the highlights, I see that Ginebra really puts an effort to cut down the lead.

Justin Brownlee and Scottie Thompson really never gave up. I doubt these 2 will be involved in such a crap plan to allow SMB to win.

Why they will put some effort to force a win if there's a script to allow SMB to win the game?

The timing of that Thompson 3 point really on time, a heart of a legit MVP who's not afraid of taking the last shot even in front of an almost 7foot import, what I'm saying is rumors is not new to PBA I even say the reason why big lead can still lose the game, I'm not against how Ginebra wins the game it's SMB who blow away their big lead while like what you mentioned both Brownlee and Thompson plus Malonzo really play hard to make sure that they are still in the game and it happen that they snatch it from SMB.


That was a huge comeback, I thought that SMB would already win the game because they are in a huge lead already. The NSD was real, people were supporting them for their big run and Thompson had really improve, he is a real deal MVP because he already have lots of winning shots.

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That was a huge comeback, I thought that SMB would already win the game because they are in a huge lead already. The NSD was real, people were supporting them for their big run and Thompson had really improve, he is a real deal MVP because he already have lots of winning shots.
Thompson is the new face of Ginebra, they can’t afford to lose this guy because he is doing everything for the team. Now I think it’s not a lucky shot from him, he’s a good shooter and that’s perfect shot from him. The never say die mantra of Ginebra is always be there too bad for the fans of SMB because they are not able to stop the momentum of Ginebra. Let’s just cut the rumor and just move one, Ginebra won and that’s already in the record.
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What makes me curious is how in the hell SMB choose to complain rather than fouling Ginebra in their final possession. If you watched the whole game, you saw that the lead is only 1 and Ginebra got a steal. In a normal game, the opponent will foul it right? Why didn't they foul them and just choose to let the time runs out and complain?

And yet SMB Chris Ross blames that 1 play in question that's why they lose.

He even didn't think about what in world they gave up that 19-point lead that leads to a crucial moment.

For the situation you have mentioned, it's clear that Choke Leo Austria was in trouble too in thinking of a good strategy.
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What makes me curious is how in the hell SMB choose to complain rather than fouling Ginebra in their final possession. If you watched the whole game, you saw that the lead is only 1 and Ginebra got a steal. In a normal game, the opponent will foul it right? Why didn't they foul them and just choose to let the time runs out and complain?

Maybe because of the intensity of the game, all SMB players become clueless about what they will do. They are all put in a sort of genjutsu lol. Ginebra is really best at crucial games that's why they don't even pressure on what to do unlike SMB that maybe still shock to be put on that deadly play.

If only they able to take care their lead, SMB won't end up dealing on that pressure.
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What makes me curious is how in the hell SMB choose to complain rather than fouling Ginebra in their final possession. If you watched the whole game, you saw that the lead is only 1 and Ginebra got a steal. In a normal game, the opponent will foul it right? Why didn't they foul them and just choose to let the time runs out and complain?

And yet SMB Chris Ross blames that 1 play in question that's why they lose.

He even didn't think about what in world they gave up that 19-point lead that leads to a crucial moment.

For the situation you have mentioned, it's clear that Choke Leo Austria was in trouble too in thinking of a good strategy.
I guess even the greatest coaches are having a time where they are choking at the crucial moments of the game. Well, they are humans in the end.
I wonder what SMB did after the game. Did they just comfort themselves but deep inside they are shocked at the quick turn of events. Did they ended up blaming each other for what happened (which is unlikely because I believe they're professionals). Did they just moved on with it and will focused on their next game. Anyway, I expect them to bounce back after this defeat.

What makes me curious is how in the hell SMB choose to complain rather than fouling Ginebra in their final possession. If you watched the whole game, you saw that the lead is only 1 and Ginebra got a steal. In a normal game, the opponent will foul it right? Why didn't they foul them and just choose to let the time runs out and complain?

Maybe because of the intensity of the game, all SMB players become clueless about what they will do. They are all put in a sort of genjutsu lol. Ginebra is really best at crucial games that's why they don't even pressure on what to do unlike SMB that maybe still shock to be put on that deadly play.

If only they able to take care their lead, SMB won't end up dealing on that pressure.
SMB players and also the coaches are clueless with what is happening. Maybe let's include the intensity of the crowd who mostly are Ginebra Fans. You can just feel it even though you are watching on livestream. What if you're in that situation. It's like in NBA where you are playing in the opponent's home team in an NBA Finals. The crowd isn't in your favor and that affects the opposing team.

Ginebra is known for their big comebacks, and they did it again against their 2 sister teams. Well, I don't know if somebody is observing it, but Ginebra is a team that dominates when there is an import and SMB on the other hand, is the team that is dominating in an All-Filipino Cup. Only my observation though.

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November 08, 2022, 10:06:18 AM
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What makes me curious is how in the hell SMB choose to complain rather than fouling Ginebra in their final possession. If you watched the whole game, you saw that the lead is only 1 and Ginebra got a steal. In a normal game, the opponent will foul it right? Why didn't they foul them and just choose to let the time runs out and complain?

And yet SMB Chris Ross blames that 1 play in question that's why they lose.

He even didn't think about what in world they gave up that 19-point lead that leads to a crucial moment.

For the situation you have mentioned, it's clear that Choke Leo Austria was in trouble too in thinking of a good strategy.

Emotion and the feeling that they are the controller of this league, sad thing they are against their own sister who also a co-owner of this league, kidding aside, that complain is something pro players should not expose to the young and inspiring talents, they should always be in their business, no call means the game should continue, I like all those comments over the social media though I'm a fan of SMB but that kind of attitude doesn't fit with that crucial moment,.

Fouling the player who handles the ball first before you complain if you really wanted to express your emotion, instead of doing nothing
and let the time pass to end the game.

Not a smart move, and it is needed to be tackled inside the locker room. 4 secs still enough to create a play if they did not focus
with that questionable non-call foul.

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November 08, 2022, 11:39:20 AM
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~snip~
Not a smart move, and it is needed to be tackled inside the locker room. 4 secs still enough to create a play if they did not focus
with that questionable non-call foul.


Bet on SMB at halftime when they are leading by 7 points, the odds was 1.75 at that time and seeing that their lead ballooned to 19 points, i thought that is money in the bag for SMB but when checked my account to see if my winnings was already there, i'm surprised that SMB lost by one point. I think it is good for the whole SMB team to move on and whatever mistakes they committed on that game, make sure it won't happen again. They can't forever dwell on that game especially their import as that might cause chaos on their succeeding game which are very important ones if they want to make the playoffs.

Converge vs Phoenix, for tomorrow's game. A battle between surging teams this commissioner cup, but for me Converge had a little advantage over Phoenix because coach Ayo's system is not yet so familiar.
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November 08, 2022, 11:48:25 AM
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~snip~
Not a smart move, and it is needed to be tackled inside the locker room. 4 secs still enough to create a play if they did not focus
with that questionable non-call foul.


Bet on SMB at halftime when they are leading by 7 points, the odds was 1.75 at that time and seeing that their lead ballooned to 19 points, i thought that is money in the bag for SMB but when checked my account to see if my winnings was already there, i'm surprised that SMB lost by one point. I think it is good for the whole SMB team to move on and whatever mistakes they committed on that game, make sure it won't happen again. They can't forever dwell on that game especially their import as that might cause chaos on their succeeding game which are very important ones if they want to make the playoffs.
I saw the odds it was 8 something when Ginebra was down with a huge margin, of course I didn't take it thinking it was a bait, unfortunately I'm wrong because it was an opportunity.

Converge vs Phoenix, for tomorrow's game. A battle between surging teams this commissioner cup, but for me Converge had a little advantage over Phoenix because coach Ayo's system is not yet so familiar.

I like Phoenix this time, not sure what's the betting odds yet but I'll take whatever it will be.

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I miss the game today, I should have put my bet on converge but it would be on a spread, I don't know what's the point spread in that particular game. Anyway, there's still a big game going on now, NLEX vs NorthPort, as usual NLEX still continues their struggle.

Anyone who believes they'll have a come back should bet on the NLEX with 6.00 odds.

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November 10, 2022, 10:43:24 AM
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I miss the game today, I should have put my bet on converge but it would be on a spread, I don't know what's the point spread in that particular game. Anyway, there's still a big game going on now, NLEX vs NorthPort, as usual NLEX still continues their struggle.

Anyone who believes they'll have a come back should bet on the NLEX with 6.00 odds.

The game went well for Converge they are now in the top 2 spot, they really doing it with passion, import is carrying the young guns and he's really effective bringing everyone and make sure that locals will play their role to win a game, it is nice to see individual team making his way to compete and to have a chance to move to the next round, hope they can get to the semis or even in the finals.

In the other game, I didn't see anyone replies with your last statement and it's a good thing because NP didn't give NLEX a chance
to win, taking it with a decent margin.

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