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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 12, 2019, 11:54:25 AM
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By mere looking at the standings, we could easily say that SMB is not in a good position right now. Having a twice to beat disadvantage against a team where they always having a hard time defeating (Ginebra) is a tough hill climb and for me this is like a championship game for SMB. If they could overcome this hurdle, SMB will be the Governor's Cup champion and a grand slam winner, that's my fearless prediction.
We don't know just yet until we see the real outcome. At the end of the day, SMB's roster is pretty solid and they already have so much experiences in this kind of situations. If Ginebra will not be careful then SMB might bounce back. BUT I hope your fearless forecast will not do come true because it makes me feel sad to see Ginebra got early trip to Bora lol Grin.
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November 12, 2019, 02:59:30 PM
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By mere looking at the standings, we could easily say that SMB is not in a good position right now. Having a twice to beat disadvantage against a team where they always having a hard time defeating (Ginebra) is a tough hill climb and for me this is like a championship game for SMB. If they could overcome this hurdle, SMB will be the Governor's Cup champion and a grand slam winner, that's my fearless prediction.
We don't know just yet until we see the real outcome. At the end of the day, SMB's roster is pretty solid and they already have so much experiences in this kind of situations. If Ginebra will not be careful then SMB might bounce back. BUT I hope your fearless forecast will not do come true because it makes me feel sad to see Ginebra got early trip to Bora lol Grin.
Ginebra and SMB will both try to extend their journey it's a game of the coaches to bring the good and effective chemistry between players that will be playing inside the court. This twice to beat advantage of ginebra will be tough since they are also a good competitive team to beat from this league. They also have the same experienced and the fans who loves to support them will be an additional boost.
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November 12, 2019, 03:37:23 PM
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SMB will rank no.5 in the standings whatever happens on their remaining games, a SMB vs Ginebra match in the playoff is unavoidable this time. SMB is very vulnerable in the playoffs, they are just lucky last time against NorthPort but this time against a crowd favorite team, they need a dominant import which for now they don't have.

It doesn't mean that they placed no. 5, they can now defeat the crowd favorite team, which is Ginebra. Any basketball team can reach that kind of position in the standing, so don't be too confident. They are just lucky, and being blessed is not absolute. And also, they don't need a dominant import because the play is coming from a great coach. Having a smart and intelligent coach can help a team win, Tim Cone is an example of it.

SMB's journey to the grand slam is not looking good as of now.

Because I'm sure that Ginebra will have a successful journey to the Grand Slam, trust me.

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November 12, 2019, 10:10:24 PM
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SMB's journey to the grand slam is not looking good as of now.

Because I'm sure that Ginebra will have a successful journey to the Grand Slam, trust me.


Hey bro, just a bit of education with regards to the PBA. A grandslam is a sort of a title given to a team in the PBA that have won the three conferences in a season. This season, SMB have already won the All-Filipino Cup and Commissioner's Cup. The Governor's Cup title is up for grabs which SMB is not in a good position to win it but still they have a chance though slim.

Your Ginebra team, is not in for a grandslam as they don't win a title this season.

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November 12, 2019, 11:02:46 PM
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SMB's journey to the grand slam is not looking good as of now.

Because I'm sure that Ginebra will have a successful journey to the Grand Slam, trust me.


Hey bro, just a bit of education with regards to the PBA. A grandslam is a sort of a title given to a team in the PBA that have won the three conferences in a season. This season, SMB have already won the All-Filipino Cup and Commissioner's Cup. The Governor's Cup title is up for grabs which SMB is not in a good position to win it but still they have a chance though slim.

Your Ginebra team, is not in for a grandslam as they don't win a title this season.

Well explained, this isn't like the NBA set up where a season is long, here in NBA, they divided the season into different conferences due to the limited number of teams, and it would be boring and tiring for the team to play for the length like the NBA have set up.

SMB has the biggest challenge this conference as they don't have a dominant import anymore, they let go of their import and replace a non productive one and I think they have to hope he will improve as they can't change import anymore at this stage.

If they will go all FILIPINO, they should be a better team because they have their import which is JUNE MAR".. Grin

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November 12, 2019, 11:24:44 PM
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In loss after Magnolia's last Sunday's game. Decent bucks on handicap at stake. They can go for a 2 point shot but instead, they choose to make an attempt a few steps away from the three-point area. Why need of 3. There are other open players in the rainbow area. NLEX really did a great performance on that game. They were able to back on track after being down by 26 points.

I'm with Magnolia on that game but I have to admit they CHOKED! Better luck next game.

Because I'm sure that Ginebra will have a successful journey to the Grand Slam, trust me.

Much better if you will say that next year once All-Filipino Cup commence. But you know, Ginebra is not good in an All-Filipino lineup.
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November 12, 2019, 11:46:45 PM
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Ginebra and SMB will both try to extend their journey it's a game of the coaches to bring the good and effective chemistry between players that will be playing inside the court. This twice to beat advantage of ginebra will be tough since they are also a good competitive team to beat from this league. They also have the same experienced and the fans who loves to support them will be an additional boost.
Indeed. Once all the NSD fans inside the stadium chant "Ginebra! Ginebra!", expect that the opposing tram are now confused which lead to ball errors Grin. In all fairness, SMB also got a fanbase but they're still few and can be dominated by the Ginebra fans Cheesy.

They have twice to beat advantage, their chance of getting eliminated become lesser so I hope that they can already pull this off because if not how ironic for them to be called the 'Kings'
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November 13, 2019, 03:00:08 AM
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Ginebra and SMB will both try to extend their journey it's a game of the coaches to bring the good and effective chemistry between players that will be playing inside the court. This twice to beat advantage of ginebra will be tough since they are also a good competitive team to beat from this league. They also have the same experienced and the fans who loves to support them will be an additional boost.
Indeed. Once all the NSD fans inside the stadium chant "Ginebra! Ginebra!", expect that the opposing tram are now confused which lead to ball errors Grin. In all fairness, SMB also got a fanbase but they're still few and can be dominated by the Ginebra fans Cheesy.

They have twice to beat advantage, their chance of getting eliminated become lesser so I hope that they can already pull this off because if not how ironic for them to be called the 'Kings'

It would be nice if the SMB will face Ginebra so we will be seeing a great match up and SMB will not be in the Finals again, let's give chance to the other teams, I like the Meralco or the TNT to be in the finals, surely it's gonna be a different experience by the fans, so I'm hoping SMB will be eliminated.

On the other hand, we cannot underestimate the NLEX also because they are having a good run this conference, they are the number 1 actually but I don't think they would be in the Finals this conference, IMO.

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November 13, 2019, 03:47:20 AM
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SMB's journey to the grand slam is not looking good as of now.

Because I'm sure that Ginebra will have a successful journey to the Grand Slam, trust me.


Hey bro, just a bit of education with regards to the PBA. A grandslam is a sort of a title given to a team in the PBA that have won the three conferences in a season. This season, SMB have already won the All-Filipino Cup and Commissioner's Cup. The Governor's Cup title is up for grabs which SMB is not in a good position to win it but still they have a chance though slim.

Your Ginebra team, is not in for a grandslam as they don't win a title this season.
Ginebra is not close for that grandslam, and same with what bisdak40 just said there's should be 3 times in a single season to have that title
only 4 teams inside this league who have it, every teams dream of reaching this titles.

SMB seems not in the shape trying to push winning another grand slam, though this isn't over yet and they are still in the game.

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November 13, 2019, 02:42:30 PM
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SMB seems not in the shape trying to push winning another grand slam, though this isn't over yet and they are still in the game.
The locals are the best in the line up because they are dominant in the all filipino cup even before C Stand came, but this time, there's a lot of good import and some even are the NBA players so this is really a big test.

Their import now was an NBA player but he hasn't showed his ability yet but we can expect that he will not have consecutive off night, he won't play in the NBA if he doesn't have the skills, however it seems to me that our old imports that are not NBA players are performing their best now, I am talking of brownlee and Durham, they are in a competition but Meralco had a good run so probably the best import will goes to.... DURHAM?

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November 15, 2019, 08:34:16 AM
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Fresh news guys, Doug Kramer is going to retire and today will be his last game in the NBA.

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MANILA – Doug Kramer on Friday explained his decision to retire from professional basketball, saying he was hanging his jersey out of respect for the sport and not due to injury.

In a Facebook post of Team Kramer on Friday, the cager said he was leaving to give chance to other players to take his slot.

"Basketball is not forever. And I never made it to become my only avenue. It's very temporal. I'm 36 years young and still so much to do," he said.

"I don't want to wait till my body is breaking down, or till mentally I'm drained of the daily routine of training. I'm moving on because I choose to do so," he said.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/11/15/19/basketball-is-not-forever-doug-kramer-explains-retirement-from-basketball


This guy is a good example of an athlete that has plans after baskeball, because even if he retires, he still has a lot of commercials and I think this guy is a vlogger as well, and with that alone, they are making a good amount of money already.

Team Kramer here,
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November 15, 2019, 09:39:45 AM
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I like his statement that he is giving a chance for others to play in the PBA by giving up his spot.
He is already 36 years but he can still play with good defense, but maybe his playing time has reduce and his contract is not good enough that's why he retires.

According to this article, https://trendcelebsnow.com/doug-kramer-net-worth/

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so that means he has a good life waiting for him after retirement, this guy has already earn a lot of money, not only from his profession but also from other jobs, good for him.
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I like his statement that he is giving a chance for others to play in the PBA by giving up his spot.
He is already 36 years but he can still play with good defense, but maybe his playing time has reduce and his contract is not good enough that's why he retires.

According to this article, https://trendcelebsnow.com/doug-kramer-net-worth/

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Estimated Net Worth in 2019 - $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.)

so that means he has a good life waiting for him after retirement, this guy has already earn a lot of money, not only from his profession but also from other jobs, good for him.
He established his financial sources, commercials and businesses that he already own, there's no need for him to insist his stay knowing that new young players will keep coming and I admire him to give his spot. Like what you have said he still capable to add some quality minutes helping
the team, he can play defense and rebounds but since he's no longer being use it's time to move forward and spend those quality time with his
happy family.

It's good that at his young age he is now fully retired and he can focus his time to his family.

Meanwhile, it seems like Kramer was given more minutes in his last game but it looks like their team will loss in his last game playing with them.

Current score is 106-107, Phoenix trailing by 1 with only 16 seconds left in the game.



and it went to OT, Kramer must be lucky in this game that he might get a win on the last game of his career.
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November 15, 2019, 02:54:19 PM
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Fresh news guys, Doug Kramer is going to retire and today will be his last game in the NBA.

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MANILA – Doug Kramer on Friday explained his decision to retire from professional basketball, saying he was hanging his jersey out of respect for the sport and not due to injury.

In a Facebook post of Team Kramer on Friday, the cager said he was leaving to give chance to other players to take his slot.

"Basketball is not forever. And I never made it to become my only avenue. It's very temporal. I'm 36 years young and still so much to do," he said.

"I don't want to wait till my body is breaking down, or till mentally I'm drained of the daily routine of training. I'm moving on because I choose to do so," he said.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/11/15/19/basketball-is-not-forever-doug-kramer-explains-retirement-from-basketball


This guy is a good example of an athlete that has plans after baskeball, because even if he retires, he still has a lot of commercials and I think this guy is a vlogger as well, and with that alone, they are making a good amount of money already.

Team Kramer here,

Kramer is already established financially so retiring is also a good thing for him to do. I think it's not just giving young players opportunity but it is also about being contented on what he has earned through his business and commercials.

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November 15, 2019, 09:44:54 PM
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Kramer is already established financially so retiring is also a good thing for him to do. I think it's not just giving young players opportunity but it is also about being contented on what he has earned through his business and commercials.

Commendable act by Kramer, i agree. Win-win situation for him and the PBA, he have allocated one slot for one young cager to suit up in the PBA and this time around, he will be spending more time with his family. He is still usable for a few conferences but he does not wait to be push out from the league, so good move, besides as what others mentioned, he is well established financially.

Hope Taulava, Hugnatan and those 38+ guys would follow this good example by Kramer  Smiley.

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Hope Taulava, Hugnatan and those 38+ guys would follow this good example by Kramer  Smiley.
They only played very limited minutes already especially Taulava but TBH, I don't want Hugnatan to retire yet as he is a big asset on his team.
His very stable 3 point shooting and some clever plays in the floor it could help the team in playoffs time, and if you still remember, in the last years, he was very valuable to his team especially during the Meralco vs Ginebra San Miguel finals, I just can't remember the year.

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November 16, 2019, 08:18:58 AM
Last edit: November 16, 2019, 08:29:22 AM by Japinat
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Hope Taulava, Hugnatan and those 38+ guys would follow this good example by Kramer  Smiley.
They only played very limited minutes already especially Taulava but TBH, I don't want Hugnatan to retire yet as he is a big asset on his team.
His very stable 3 point shooting and some clever plays in the floor it could help the team in playoffs time, and if you still remember, in the last years, he was very valuable to his team especially during the Meralco vs Ginebra San Miguel finals, I just can't remember the year.
I still remember that time, and actually there are a lot of PBA players that doesn't want to retire as they are still enjoying their life in the PBA.

Hugnata is now 41 years old, Taulava is 46 but they are still useful to their team and Taulava still even played in our national team.
We can't judge their minds, they spend their life in the PBA and maybe they will just stop when they feel they can't contribute to the team anymore.
We always have Rafi Reavis which is now 42 years old but his contribution to his team is so big.



By the way, we have one game that will start at 5 PM Philippine time.

its between the Hotshots and the TNT, which team will win.

Betting odds are hotshots +4.5 / TNT -4.5 ( my pick here is hotshots +4.5 because they need this win to stay in the playoff race).

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November 17, 2019, 10:43:26 AM
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Betting odds are hotshots +4.5 / TNT -4.5 ( my pick here is hotshots +4.5 because they need this win to stay in the playoff race).

Good job, that was an easy win by the Magnolia, you should have bet on the ML as well. TNT already in their 3 losing streak I guess.



About the games today, the first game was a close game, that steal by Nambatac made the difference and ROS beat the streaking Meralco to have their chance in the playoff race.

2nd game is going to be a good game also, its between the North Port and the Ginebra, in this game I'm putting my bet on the Ginebra.

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November 17, 2019, 02:08:18 PM
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Betting odds are hotshots +4.5 / TNT -4.5 ( my pick here is hotshots +4.5 because they need this win to stay in the playoff race).

Good job, that was an easy win by the Magnolia, you should have bet on the ML as well. TNT already in their 3 losing streak I guess.



About the games today, the first game was a close game, that steal by Nambatac made the difference and ROS beat the streaking Meralco to have their chance in the playoff race.

2nd game is going to be a good game also, its between the North Port and the Ginebra, in this game I'm putting my bet on the Ginebra.
Nambatac lifted the RoS the last few minutes of the 4th quarter, it's almost an overtime if only Almazan make that last shot but the good defense
break it up and not to allow the overtime to happen. Congrats to those who pick and bet both with handicap and ML for RoS it's a good win for them
giving some light to still move forward to the second round.
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November 17, 2019, 11:02:13 PM
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Betting odds are hotshots +4.5 / TNT -4.5 ( my pick here is hotshots +4.5 because they need this win to stay in the playoff race).

Good job, that was an easy win by the Magnolia, you should have bet on the ML as well. TNT already in their 3 losing streak I guess.



About the games today, the first game was a close game, that steal by Nambatac made the difference and ROS beat the streaking Meralco to have their chance in the playoff race.

2nd game is going to be a good game also, its between the North Port and the Ginebra, in this game I'm putting my bet on the Ginebra.
Nambatac lifted the RoS the last few minutes of the 4th quarter, it's almost an overtime if only Almazan make that last shot but the good defense
break it up and not to allow the overtime to happen. Congrats to those who pick and bet both with handicap and ML for RoS it's a good win for them
giving some light to still move forward to the second round.

If that goes to OT, my under bet would have lost,.. actually I made a parlay betting on ROS under, and Ginebra Over, but unfortunately it was the game for the underdog so I lose one of my parlay and everything is loss.

The 2nd game was also a very intense game, it was a close game with some lead changes from both teams, however in the end its the Northport that came out as a winner, C Stand give a big contribution on that win and of course their import.

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