2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Golftech]

Still hoping that other franchises outside San Miguel will finally rise on top to make PBA more competitive.

Hopefully we will be able to see that happen, it's been a while since SMB corporation's team are dominating the NBA, if its not SMB, it will be GSM, or Magnolia. I think the closest to that competition is the team of Manny Pangilinan, I am thinking of the TNT but with a new guy since I believe Castro would retire soon.

After this Erram's trade TNT might be in such goal of winning a title, Castro will lead the way bringing back the old glory of TNT it's a matter of time
and he's stay inside this franchise, he's not getting any younger and if he's planning to retire it's best to have another ring. Expectations is more
from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

[Russlenat]

Still hoping that other franchises outside San Miguel will finally rise on top to make PBA more competitive.

Hopefully we will be able to see that happen, it's been a while since SMB corporation's team are dominating the NBA, if its not SMB, it will be GSM, or Magnolia. I think the closest to that competition is the team of Manny Pangilinan, I am thinking of the TNT but with a new guy since I believe Castro would retire soon.

After this Erram's trade TNT might be in such goal of winning a title, Castro will lead the way bringing back the old glory of TNT it's a matter of time
and he's stay inside this franchise, he's not getting any younger and if he's planning to retire it's best to have another ring. Expectations is more
from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

Castro is not getting any younger, that is correct and he is not as aggressive as he was before, he need someone who can help him.
If we noticed in his games, he has become more of a facilitator than a scorer and that is good at his age now, and with Erram, hopefully things will get better.

[harizen]

Expectations is more from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact, Magnolia is also there, the underrated Rain Or Shine is also one of the best performing team, as always, in the All-Filipino Cup. This conference will be a close one.


One of the changes this 2020 PBA Season.

New shot clock regulation highlights PBA rule changes for 2020 season

[Finestream]

Expectations is more from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact,

They are not anymore, Gregzilla left them, they don't have big center like the SMB so this might be a good chance for other teams to show up.

Magnolia is also there, the underrated Rain Or Shine is also one of the best performing team, as always, in the All-Filipino Cup. This conference will be a close one.

Well, to be honest, I like their chances this all Filipino Cup, they are the real definition of in tact team and with their good coaching staff and as long as the players are healthy, they should win the next conference,.. I'll bet on them if there's someone who likes to challenge.

[Golftech]

Expectations is more from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact, Magnolia is also there, the underrated Rain Or Shine is also one of the best performing team, as always, in the All-Filipino Cup. This conference will be a close one.


One of the changes this 2020 PBA Season.

New shot clock regulation highlights PBA rule changes for 2020 season

I see your point and you are correct regarding to those contenders for this all filipino cup, but knowing that Beermen really dominating this conference
as Junemar really have that advantage. In regards to Erram, for sure he will find his rhythm helping tropang texters as he have the height and the capabilities to create space, for sure he will be use not only for rebounding but also for defense and offense.

[Questat]

Expectations is more from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact, Magnolia is also there, the underrated Rain Or Shine is also one of the best performing team, as always, in the All-Filipino Cup. This conference will be a close one.


One of the changes this 2020 PBA Season.

New shot clock regulation highlights PBA rule changes for 2020 season

I see your point and you are correct regarding to those contenders for this all filipino cup, but knowing that Beermen really dominating this conference
as Junemar really have that advantage. In regards to Erram, for sure he will find his rhythm helping tropang texters as he have the height and the capabilities to create space, for sure he will be use not only for rebounding but also for defense and offense.

Erram going to the TNT is not something big to hype on, TNT just want some help and IMO, the biggest hype should be Ray Parks playing with the TNT but since last season he hasn't showed his real game, we are expecting him to play his best out in this all Filipino cup, no import, it should be them who should find a way to win and get their goal this conference.

and hopefully they can give Harvey Carey  a championship on his final season in the PBA>

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-katropa-harvey-carey-set-for-17th-and-final-season-in-pba-a2437-20200303?ref=feed_1_section

[ultrloa]

Expectations is more from them since Junemar can't help now the beerman this all filipino cup will be much interesting to watch.

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact, Magnolia is also there, the underrated Rain Or Shine is also one of the best performing team, as always, in the All-Filipino Cup. This conference will be a close one.


One of the changes this 2020 PBA Season.

New shot clock regulation highlights PBA rule changes for 2020 season

I see your point and you are correct regarding to those contenders for this all filipino cup, but knowing that Beermen really dominating this conference
as Junemar really have that advantage. In regards to Erram, for sure he will find his rhythm helping tropang texters as he have the height and the capabilities to create space, for sure he will be use not only for rebounding but also for defense and offense.

Erram going to the TNT is not something big to hype on, TNT just want some help and IMO, the biggest hype should be Ray Parks playing with the TNT but since last season he hasn't showed his real game, we are expecting him to play his best out in this all Filipino cup, no import, it should be them who should find a way to win and get their goal this conference.

and hopefully they can give Harvey Carey  a championship on his final season in the PBA>

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-katropa-harvey-carey-set-for-17th-and-final-season-in-pba-a2437-20200303?ref=feed_1_section

He's numbers still not impress me since there's a lot of developments needed for him to come up but still he's a good piece in addition to TNT rooster but what excited me for their line up since I believe he will be a big challenge for their opponents for this upcoming  all Filipino cup.

[harizen]

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact,

They are not anymore, Gregzilla left them,

Actually, that's not the case.

The reason I say Ginebra is still intact because they still performed well with or without Slaughter. They already used to cover the hole when Slaughter got injured. And take note, they win a championship without Slaughter. Although imports play a big role in that, the locals' lineup is still complete. They also played in the finals in All-Filipino Cup without Slaughter on-board. Take note at that conference, they faced being eliminated 4 times but still reach the finals.

So in here, I consider Ginebra as one of the dominant team in the upcoming All-Filipino Conference even Slaughter isn't on their lineup now.

[NavI_027]

Honestly, the trade is overrated. I'm not really expecting that Erram is the game changer although I like TNT to at least take the chip this conference. SMB isn't only the challenge they will face even with or without Junemar on board. Brgy. Ginebra is still intact,

They are not anymore, Gregzilla left them,

The reason I say Ginebra is still intact because they still performed well with or without Slaughter.

Indeed. For me Ginebra is stronger without Greg. (How do i say it hmm) He weakens his team because the game seems like a 4 vs 5 situation every time he is in. He is slow which is understandable because of being massive so we are expecting that he will at least be an effecrive defender and rebounder in the paint, but the sad reality is, he wasn't. Actually, I'm more amazed with Thompson's ability to sneak rebounds .

The bottomline, what I'm trying to say is that Ginebra remains its strong force without Greg ~ change my mind.

[BlackFor3st]

I believe we have a lot of gamblers in the forum who loves Philippines Basketball particularly PBA, that's why I'm bringing this outside the local.

Let's discuss the current events, news, and the games here. You may also share you bets here if you want to help fellow gamblers to win or ask some opinion from our fellow gamblers here.

The PBA has a short conference only but they also have short break, so if we are betting often in this games, we can easily familiarize the teams since there are only few teams compared to the NBA.

Hopefully we can make a good and helpful discussion in this thread.

Upon checking there are only 12 teams in PBA so your right that it is not that hard to familiarize the behavior of every team but I am not so sure also whether it will give us a big chances of winning. The game can be thrown easily if the team would like to especially that I also heard some news that some of PBA teams are doing it because the players have bet to themselves either they win or loss.

But if somehow PBA will not behave like this way again then I love to try in betting in PBA games as I usually bet in NBA games but I so unlucky in terms of my betting choices. 

[Vaculin]

So in here, I consider Ginebra as one of the dominant team in the upcoming All-Filipino Conference even Slaughter isn't on their lineup now.

We will see about that, the pressure is on them now but hopefully they'll prove the doubters wrong because they don't perform well this conference, people would think that they are only a good team because of their import and because of Greg when in all Filipino.

[Russlenat]

So in here, I consider Ginebra as one of the dominant team in the upcoming All-Filipino Conference even Slaughter isn't on their lineup now.

We will see about that, the pressure is on them now but hopefully they'll prove the doubters wrong because they don't perform well this conference, people would think that they are only a good team because of their import and because of Greg when in all Filipino.

Great to see that people here are not only speaking of SMB's dominance in the Filipino Cup, now that JMF is out, it seems like the betting odds will be balance, other teams has a good chance now,.. but I am just curious, do you we have like a sort of PBA futures or who will win in this conference betting?
it was not presented yet in our favorite crypto sports book, so what about we will make it as a bet in our local?

[Sanitough]

Great to see that people here are not only speaking of SMB's dominance in the Filipino Cup, now that JMF is out, it seems like the betting odds will be balance, other teams has a good chance now,.. but I am just curious, do you we have like a sort of PBA futures or who will win in this conference betting?
it was not presented yet in our favorite crypto sports book,

No PBA futures in any crypto sportsbook AFAIK, but we can still enjoy betting every game, remember that the first game will be Sunday in the Philippines so we will certainly have time to enjoy it and that is the great opening game for SMB and Magnolia, it's sure a physical game.

so what about we will make it as a bet in our local?

I doubt many will be interested, you run an NBA competition but only few joined, including me. lol.

[LogitechMouse]

The reason I say Ginebra is still intact because they still performed well with or without Slaughter. They already used to cover the hole when Slaughter got injured. And take note, they win a championship without Slaughter. Although imports play a big role in that, the locals' lineup is still complete. They also played in the finals in All-Filipino Cup without Slaughter on-board. Take note at that conference, they faced being eliminated 4 times but still reach the finals.

If you will observe the Ginebra's roster within the past years, there are not that much changes. This is because their current roster right now is a strong roster already and they are a championship contender team with or without the Import. The addition of Slaughter helped the Ginebra a lot but as you said, with or without Slaughter they are a championship contender team.  If we see the Japeth Aguilar in the last conference where they win against Meralco, they have a high chance to win a championship again.
TNT is over hyped right now because they got Erram in a 3 team trade. There are many strong teams right now in this Conference. NorthPort have CStan, Magnolia have Sangalang, SMB have Tautuaa and Ginebra have Aguilar. Yes they are a strong team but I will go with Ginebra or SMB with this conference as champion . SMB fan here .

[Finestream]

Are you guys excited for the game tomorrow? it's the PBA opening game, and I am checking the betting odds right now but I could not find any of the sites I am using, maybe tonight it will be available. SMB vs Magnolia, such a very good match up.

[GreatArkansas]

Odds update before the first game of this conference.
San Miguel Beermen vs Magnolia Hotshots.
The odds is favor on the Magnolia Hotshots now, for me, June Mar Fajardo's injury really got big impact on the odds since this is all-filipino-cup, I'm really sad for June Mar Fajardo and for the team San Miguel Beermen (btw, nice entrance for the 6 times MVP, JMF)

[Golftech]

Odds update before the first game of this conference.
San Miguel Beermen vs Magnolia Hotshots.
The odds is favor on the Magnolia Hotshots now, for me, June Mar Fajardo's injury really got big impact on the odds since this is all-filipino-cup, I'm really sad for June Mar Fajardo and for the team San Miguel Beermen (btw, nice entrance for the 6 times MVP, JMF)

No Junemar no problem for SMB, Tau fill in and the rest of the starters really work together to win this first game. TR7 show how impacting he is once he got the rhythm of the game. Beermen play well good rotations from the coaching staff and a working play for each players who are inside the court, expect more from this team even without the 6 time MVP.

[gunhell16]

Even the San Miguel Beermen can't play the 6 times (consecutive) MVP, they manage to win the game with the help of the Most Improved player MO Tautua.
I manage to win But this conference will be difficult for the SMB team as we saw JUNEMAR still in bad condition to play a game.
This might be a long process of healing but still hoping that the guy can play in the playoffs.
APAY is the best player in the court especially when it is an all-Filipino cup.

Do you know who won the 44th awarding in this league? if now and interested i made a post about that.
link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145323.msg53989818#msg53989818

[goinmerry]

I have noticed that people especially in social media, consider SMB's win as a big deal just because they won without JuneMar. I don't see how it became special. SMB can still match with other teams even with no Kraken on their lineup and they are still a contender.

Tautuaa will not earn the league's Most Improved Player if he isn't capable of this position. His strength is already recognized even before his PBA career and that's the reason why he became the top pick last 2015 draft. In SMB, he's now receiving lots of playing time in absence of JuneMar. That's how complete the SMB team is both starting and bench squad.

[Sanitough]

I lose my bet on this game, I was thinking Magnolia would easily beat the SMB but I was wrong, they showed that they can still dominate inside and Moala Tautuaa was just so smart with the pick and roll plays, all of them did great especially the 3 point shooting, that kills the Magnolia as they don't shoot 3s pretty well and the SMB's defense is really good.