2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[bisdak40]

Danny Ildefonso's eye popping offer sheet from Tanduay

Tanduay is a powerhouse cast back when that sheet is offered to Ildefonso. That's the prime of Gary Alvarado, Menk, Hatfield and many more.

If happened, they will be the most dominant team that year.

For me, SMB and Tanduay are just the same. They throwing the same words to each other. They like to offer good to a player, no matter the cost. But San Miguel is a close friend of most big people behind PBA so Tanduay is just unlucky that time lol.

I made a research on why Danny I. declined such offer and found out that the league nullified the offer sheet as it violated team's salary cap rules.

Tanduay Rhum Masters is fun to watch back then, they are a title contender with Sonny Alvarado, Eric Menk, Rudy Hatfield, Dondon Hontiveros and Jason Webb. I just don't know the reason why they left the league all of a sudden, they are a rich team and can compete with SMC group of companies.

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[Sanitough]

Danny Ildefonso's eye popping offer sheet from Tanduay

Tanduay is a powerhouse cast back when that sheet is offered to Ildefonso. That's the prime of Gary Alvarado, Menk, Hatfield and many more.

If happened, they will be the most dominant team that year.

For me, SMB and Tanduay are just the same. They throwing the same words to each other. They like to offer good to a player, no matter the cost. But San Miguel is a close friend of most big people behind PBA so Tanduay is just unlucky that time lol.

I made a research on why Danny I. declined such offer and found out that the league nullified the offer sheet as it violated team's salary cap rules.

Tanduay Rhum Masters is fun to watch back then, they are a title contender with Sonny Alvarado, Eric Menk, Rudy Hatfield, Dondon Hontiveros and Jason Webb. I just don't know the reason why they left the league all of a sudden, they are a rich team and can compete with SMC group of companies.

Tanduay Rhum sells the team?

https://powcastsports.com/tanduay-rhum-masters-and-the-biggest-fire-sale-of-the-2000s/

Based on the post, it's said that it's a rich team, so why would they sell the team? On the article above, they traded their top players but it was not clear to whom they sold the team. If I understood correctly, a team is not for sale since they are own by a certain brand, I'm confuse. 

[asu]

G-league is different I guess. I am not so familiar with the rules but what I understand on the process is that you go with the NCAA, D-League, you get drafted and you will enter in the NBA. Gone are those these that they allow players not able to finish college, like in the Time of Kobe and Lebron if IIRC.

correct me if I'm wrong guys, like I said, I am not an expert.

You can read the link below.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eligibility_for_the_NBA_draft

I have read some comments that the rules has changed for non college graduate. It looks it is that way if Kai Sotto really skipped college.

[bisdak40]

This may be a proof of some sort that Tanduay is a rich team, they violated many times the PBA's salary cap rules, interesting.

Bong Tan also made a controversial comment calling the PBA, "a San Miguel league", a reference to a speculation that the PBA is favoring the then-San Miguel Corporation teams San Miguel and Barangay Ginebra. It was also said that Tanduay violated the PBA's salary cap many times by having their players sign a separate contract apart from the required PBA Uniform Player's Contract that made the players richer than any PBA team's bench players by a few hundred thousand pesos. This was already denied by the management.

Tanduay Rhum sells the team?

https://powcastsports.com/tanduay-rhum-masters-and-the-biggest-fire-sale-of-the-2000s/

Based on the post, it's said that it's a rich team, so why would they sell the team? On the article above, they traded their top players but it was not clear to whom they sold the team. If I understood correctly, a team is not for sale since they are own by a certain brand, I'm confuse. 

Realizing its failure to win a championship despite a stellar line-up of Fil-American players and established veterans, Tanduay disbanded after the 2001 season, selling its PBA franchise to FedEx Express for a reported sum of PHP 60-75 million. A firesale ensued as the Rhum Masters traded their key players Eric Menk (to Barangay Ginebra Kings), Dondon Hontiveros (to the San Miguel Beermen) and Jeffrey Cariaso (to the Coca-Cola Tigers).

Tanduay was acquired by FedEx Express but before that they traded their key players to SMC which for me is ironic because Bong Tan criticized the PBA and even called it a San Miguel league lol.
 

[Finestream]

Tanduay was acquired by FedEx Express but before that they traded their key players to SMC which for me is ironic because Bong Tan criticized the PBA and even called it a San Miguel league lol.
 

That stays until now, if we have noticed, its only the SMB team that are dominating the league now.
It could only be between the SMB and the Ginebra, I think TNT and Meralco are also owned by a rich company but they are still weak compared to the two teams from SMB. Hopefully things will change, now that we have no fajardo and Greg, maybe other teams will win in the Finals, but this pandemic came into the wrong timing.

[freedomgo]

G-league is different I guess. I am not so familiar with the rules but what I understand on the process is that you go with the NCAA, D-League, you get drafted and you will enter in the NBA. Gone are those these that they allow players not able to finish college, like in the Time of Kobe and Lebron if IIRC.

correct me if I'm wrong guys, like I said, I am not an expert.

You can read the link below.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eligibility_for_the_NBA_draft

I have read some comments that the rules has changed for non college graduate. It looks it is that way if Kai Sotto really skipped college.

according to the link above.

Players who have played at least one year of college basketball are eligible for the NBA draft; this has been colloquially called the one-and-done rule, with such players called "one-and-done players"

I think the requirement is not hard to comply, he just need to study one year in college and by the way, the age that is illegible is 19 and up.

[Sanitough]

More on Kai Sotto's  entrance to G-legue.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/what-is-the-nba-g-league-select-team-and-how-can-kai-sotto-benefit-from-it-a2437-20200512?ref=home_featured_big

Prospects in the select team will receive $125,000 salary for the five-month season, as well as "year-long opportunities for on and off-the-court professional development."

Does it mean Sotto will get that Salary when he will play for the G-League?

It was also mentioned in the same article that :

That matches the maximum pay grade young stars LaMelo Ball and RJ Hampton received when they took their act to the Australian National Basketball League (NBL).

[asu]

according to the link above.

Players who have played at least one year of college basketball are eligible for the NBA draft; this has been colloquially called the one-and-done rule, with such players called "one-and-done players"

I think the requirement is not hard to comply, he just need to study one year in college and by the way, the age that is illegible is 19 and up.

Never mind about the college requirements.
Since this is a big news to the Philippine Basketball.

According to this video (Filipino speaker), all selected players are all prospect of NBA drafties and would play against to other selected teams as well.

Additionally, Kai Sotto salary is about to 6 digits in dollars.

[arwin100]

Recent news from a facebook page NBA Buzz. Kai Sotto just signed into NBA G-League pro program, and he's the very first international player to do it so. Meaning he's the first person born outside the America who did it.

So the NBA rules has changed allowing now a player that haven't been graduated in college.

I think it's a bit more early for him to join that league, but let's see what is Kai Sotto now, how great he's changes overall.

His physical built and youth makes me worried if he can really make   it to the pro league although it  can help him enhance his skills but still the level of physically is different and might he's talent will be wasted if he will acquired a fatal injury by playing on big bodies.  But since he's decision  has been made then as fans we should support him and lets hope that he will be the first natural born Filipino to land on NBA.

[bisdak40]

His physical built and youth makes me worried if he can really make   it to the pro league although it  can help him enhance his skills but still the level of physically is different and might he's talent will be wasted if he will acquired a fatal injury by playing on big bodies.  But since he's decision  has been made then as fans we should support him and lets hope that he will be the first natural born Filipino to land on NBA.

Right, Kai Sotto need to gain some weight as G-League is as physical as in the NBA. In the process of gaining weight, i doubt if he can maintain his mobility/athleticism, knowing the Americans they are so athletic. How could he depend "drive-by lay-ups" if he is so slow. Like i said before, it's good to have a full bloodied Filipino in the NBA but this time Kai is so raw.

All of the NBA figures I interviewed at the 2020 All-Star Weekend here in Chicago where Kai participated at the Basketball Without Borders (BWB) camp opined that the 7-foot-2 phenom can use at least a year in college.

The goal, they rationalized, was to allow Kai to gain some weight and acclimatize to the physical demands that await the professional ranks. Kai, it was pointed out, needs to work on his speed to avoid being repeatedly victimized by drive-by lay-ups.

Quote from a sports writer who closely followed Kai's career in the US.

It's good to be first. But it's better to be right.

I think, everything on Kai right now is just plain hype.

[Golftech]

Recent news from a facebook page NBA Buzz. Kai Sotto just signed into NBA G-League pro program, and he's the very first international player to do it so. Meaning he's the first person born outside the America who did it.

So the NBA rules has changed allowing now a player that haven't been graduated in college.

I think it's a bit more early for him to join that league, but let's see what is Kai Sotto now, how great he's changes overall.

His physical built and youth makes me worried if he can really make   it to the pro league although it  can help him enhance his skills but still the level of physically is different and might he's talent will be wasted if he will acquired a fatal injury by playing on big bodies.  But since he's decision  has been made then as fans we should support him and lets hope that he will be the first natural born Filipino to land on NBA.

This decision to play at NBA G-League will give Kai more exposures though  he's still young and there are lots of heavy competition to face since all of the players wanted to showcase their  talents in order to get attentions from scouting NBA people.
Lets all support him he would be the first ever pure blood pinoy to reached this league.

[Russlenat]

I think, everything on Kai right now is just plain hype.

You can really expect that people hype this so much because we don't have anyone who are even close to Kai's achievement in the international league, this young man is a full blooded Filipino, so if he will be get this dream to be playing in the NBA, that would make the whole nation proud.

Whether it's a hype or not, I think we should support our fellow man here, he will be bringing glory to the Philippines once he will be successful.

[chaser15]

I made a research on why Danny I. declined such offer and found out that the league nullified the offer sheet as it violated team's salary cap rules.

Tanduay Rhum Masters is fun to watch back then, they are a title contender with Sonny Alvarado, Eric Menk, Rudy Hatfield, Dondon Hontiveros and Jason Webb. I just don't know the reason why they left the league all of a sudden, they are a rich team and can compete with SMC group of companies.

Yeah that's the reason. Tanduay can just offer a good contract to attract the best players in the league to form a strong team so the league voided the sheet.

Bong Tan is also right to called PBA a SanMig league during that time as they are the most influential company in the PBA. Although I don't know if Tanduay is really doing that behind the paper contract.


With all due respect to everyone, I think discussing everything about Kai Sotto is an off-topic here. Yes, he is a Filipino pride but he is on another league and no linked at all to PBA league.

[bisdak40]

With all due respect to everyone, I think discussing everything about Kai Sotto is an off-topic here. Yes, he is a Filipino pride but he is on another league and no linked at all to PBA league.

Lol, have already remind them that Kai being on NBA G League is not appropriate on this thread but it seems the urge to discuss on the future of Kai Sotto in the NBA is so tempting  .

Anyways, i hope that this would be the last comment involving Kai on NBA and let's be on topic by discussing updates and new from the PBA.

Kai has a bright future ahead of him in basketball sans injury but for him being drafted in the NBA or G League is not appropriate to be discussed in this PBA thread, no offense mate but that is just my two satoshis thought.

[Russlenat]

Mark Dickel says Gilas program in good hands with Tab Baldwin

EVEN though Gilas Pilipinas has yet to name a permanent head coach, Mark Dickel said the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) is headed in the right direction after installing a program headed by Tab Baldwin.

AGREE OR DISAGREE?

Me, I agree, I like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas as under his coaching job last time, Gilas were able to perform well in the international competition.
So hopefully with his guidance it will make Gilas a more exciting team to watch again.

[Rosilito]

Mark Dickel says Gilas program in good hands with Tab Baldwin

EVEN though Gilas Pilipinas has yet to name a permanent head coach, Mark Dickel said the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) is headed in the right direction after installing a program headed by Tab Baldwin.

AGREE OR DISAGREE?

Me, I agree, I like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas as under his coaching job last time, Gilas were able to perform well in the international competition.
So hopefully with his guidance it will make Gilas a more exciting team to watch again.

I agree as well, but this won't close any doors for any deserving coach that may come up, right? I just read about coach Chot Reyes comment with regards to the nationality of whoever would going to coach the team.

Dickel’s comments came after a statement made by former Gilas Pilipinas coach Chot Reyes who said that the job should go to a Filipino.

I just hope that his won't cause any controversy in the long run.

[harizen]

Me, I agree, I like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas as under his coaching job last time, Gilas were able to perform well in the international competition.
So hopefully with his guidance it will make Gilas a more exciting team to watch again.

Dickel's statement makes sense.

Tab Baldwin, being a professional coach with lots of great achievements and already knows the system in an international basketball league (he coached several teams in different countries on his whole coaching career), how can we say that he will not contribute well to the national team. As for the country, he was involved as a coach with PBA and UAAP for many years. He knows a lot.

I understand the sentiment of Chot Reyes, who else doesn't want to rise on top with a pure Filipino effort? But let's face the fact that our National Team needs all the help, guidance, and support they can get when it comes to international games,

[Russlenat]

Me, I agree, I like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas as under his coaching job last time, Gilas were able to perform well in the international competition.
So hopefully with his guidance it will make Gilas a more exciting team to watch again.

Dickel's statement makes sense.

Tab Baldwin, being a professional coach with lots of great achievements and already knows the system in an international basketball league (he coached several teams in different countries on his whole coaching career), how can we say that he will not contribute well to the national team. As for the country, he was involved as a coach with PBA and UAAP for many years. He knows a lot.

I understand the sentiment of Chot Reyes, who else doesn't want to rise on top with a pure Filipino effort? But let's face the fact that our National Team needs all the help, guidance, and support they can get when it comes to international games,

Even if they will make a survey to get the voice of the fans, I am sure the fans would like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas again.
We've seen how they improve the last time he manage this team, and players that we are not expecting to explode exploded during the international games. I'd like to see Romeo and Abueva leading this team again, they are the energy providers of the team and that makes the Gilas fun to watch though they are an undergo in international competition.

[bisdak40]

Mark Dickel says Gilas program in good hands with Tab Baldwin

EVEN though Gilas Pilipinas has yet to name a permanent head coach, Mark Dickel said the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) is headed in the right direction after installing a program headed by Tab Baldwin.

AGREE OR DISAGREE?

Me, I agree, I like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas as under his coaching job last time, Gilas were able to perform well in the international competition.
So hopefully with his guidance it will make Gilas a more exciting team to watch again.

Pinoy coaches are really longing for a scenario that Philippine team should coached by a full bloodied Pinoy. However there is no suitable coach at the moment IMO. They were all given an opportunity to lead the Gilas but there seems to be a stagnant in term of development and program. I think hiring a foreign coaches, specially from Europe would help develop and instill discipline on our national players. There will always opposition by this decision of SBP but at least they are doing the right thing for Philippine basketball.   

[Vaculin]

Mark Dickel says Gilas program in good hands with Tab Baldwin

EVEN though Gilas Pilipinas has yet to name a permanent head coach, Mark Dickel said the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) is headed in the right direction after installing a program headed by Tab Baldwin.

AGREE OR DISAGREE?

Me, I agree, I like Coach Tab to handle the Gilas as under his coaching job last time, Gilas were able to perform well in the international competition.
So hopefully with his guidance it will make Gilas a more exciting team to watch again.

Pinoy coaches are really longing for a scenario that Philippine team should coached by a full bloodied Pinoy. However there is no suitable coach at the moment IMO. They were all given an opportunity to lead the Gilas but there seems to be a stagnant in term of development and program. I think hiring a foreign coaches, specially from Europe would help develop and instill discipline on our national players. There will always opposition by this decision of SBP but at least they are doing the right thing for Philippine basketball.   

I guess I have to agree with you, I've seen Coach Reyes and Yeng handle the Gilas, they are not anywhere near to the achievement of coach tab though he only handles in one time if I am not mistaken. The time coach Tab handles the Team Gilas, we were recognize in the FIBA world and that's the time where Romeo was so popular, I think we will again see that under Coach Tab, so I support the SBP's decision to put him back.