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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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February 11, 2023, 10:42:48 AM
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TNT is already leading by 15 points, I think the point spread was -13.5. If TNT will continue to play better in the 2nd half, then I would say it's an easy win for the TNT in this game. TNT is now -17.5, it's still worth to take IMO because I don't think this DYIP has enough fire power to have a good come back.
And they continue dominating then 2nd half. They are now holding the total production of points in his conference as they surpass the total points of converge which is 130 points. Mikey Williams also was the best player, his 3 point shooting is quite accurate and that helps the team.


Instead, I took the TNT over 116.5 as I believe this will be a top scoring game.
This should hit mate, you only need 49 points in the 2nd half.
Yeah, that was easy, thank you.
Their scoring was not so high in the 3rd but in the 4th quarter they scored 35 points.



Next game is up between the Beermen and Converge, hoping here that SMB will cover that 6 points spread  Smiley.
We are on the same page on this one, GL to us.
I also have under 106.5 for Converge.
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February 11, 2023, 10:56:25 AM
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Next game is up between the Beermen and Converge, hoping here that SMB will cover that 6 points spread  Smiley.
We are on the same page on this one, GL to us.
I also have under 106.5 for Converge.

I'll tail on this pick. SMB did a great job on the Meralco Bolts, so maybe they will do it against the Converge who is a younger team than the Bolts. If the import of SMB were able to limit the import of Meralco, converge should be no exemption here.



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February 11, 2023, 08:41:51 PM
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Damn, what a great game by Converge giving San Miguel Beermen their first defeat in this conference. It just shows that Converge's young guns + their import is really in good chemistry right now and can match with the top teams. That was all thanks to the strict guidance of Coach Adin Ayo who I think will be one of the most notable coaches in the league if he will keep his consistency and is active.

I know others will say it's just eliminations and like what happened the last conference, Converge fell short in the playoffs even playing well in the eliminations. But still, it's a good sign that Converge is always trying to keep their performance level high even against top teams in the league.

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February 11, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
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Next game is up between the Beermen and Converge, hoping here that SMB will cover that 6 points spread  Smiley.
We are on the same page on this one, GL to us.
I also have under 106.5 for Converge.

I'll tail on this pick. SMB did a great job on the Meralco Bolts, so maybe they will do it against the Converge who is a younger team than the Bolts. If the import of SMB were able to limit the import of Meralco, converge should be no exemption here.
They are young but capable, converge won and they prove that they can compete well with other caliber team. SMB just experienced their first loss but nothing to be ashamed because it was a close game and both teams really shows composure and great plays its just that SMB fell short. I lose on this bet because I thought SMB will be in control here, well better luck next time.
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February 11, 2023, 09:53:37 PM
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Next game is up between the Beermen and Converge, hoping here that SMB will cover that 6 points spread  Smiley.
We are on the same page on this one, GL to us.
I also have under 106.5 for Converge.

I'll tail on this pick. SMB did a great job on the Meralco Bolts, so maybe they will do it against the Converge who is a younger team than the Bolts. If the import of SMB were able to limit the import of Meralco, converge should be no exemption here.
They are young but capable, converge won and they prove that they can compete well with other caliber team. SMB just experienced their first loss but nothing to be ashamed because it was a close game and both teams really shows composure and great plays its just that SMB fell short. I lose on this bet because I thought SMB will be in control here, well better luck next time.
They are now tied on the same spot with a 5-1 record, Converge is doing great on this elimination round now they have to be more consistent if they want to have a good chance getting into the semis. SMB fell short because of missed free throws and bad plays, if you watch the game they are not that dominant and the missing Fajardo affects them that much. The import of Converge is doing great, and with a help of their locals they play better.
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February 11, 2023, 09:59:14 PM
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They are now tied on the same spot with a 5-1 record, Converge is doing great on this elimination round now they have to be more consistent if they want to have a good chance getting into the semis.

Actually for me, reaching the Semi-Finals should be achievable by Converge as long as they keep that consistency in the eliminations. They have been known to be consistent at eliminations but the real challenge is post-eliminations.

Hopefully someday, if there's a chance, this independent team can also taste a championship.

Since when was the last time we are seeing a good independent team that is serious about winning, good thing Converge is bringing that competitive spirit as an independent team.
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February 11, 2023, 11:53:21 PM
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They are now tied on the same spot with a 5-1 record, Converge is doing great on this elimination round now they have to be more consistent if they want to have a good chance getting into the semis.

Actually for me, reaching the Semi-Finals should be achievable by Converge as long as they keep that consistency in the eliminations. They have been known to be consistent at eliminations but the real challenge is post-eliminations.

Hopefully someday, if there's a chance, this independent team can also taste a championship.

Since when was the last time we are seeing a good independent team that is serious about winning, good thing Converge is bringing that competitive spirit as an independent team.

Before, we have both Alaska and RoS but now, we can only hear both SMC and MVP those giants franchise are the teams that exchanging the title, luckily we do have Converge who can bring something but still young and still unable to move forward to the finals, maybe time will come for this team to continue the chase and manage to play in the finals.

That might be an interesting time for PBA, seeing an independent team to play in the finals and hopefully they will manage to grab title to complete their resume inside the league.

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February 12, 2023, 07:48:41 AM
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Damn, what a great game by Converge giving San Miguel Beermen their first defeat in this conference. It just shows that Converge's young guns + their import is really in good chemistry right now and can match with the top teams. That was all thanks to the strict guidance of Coach Adin Ayo who I think will be one of the most notable coaches in the league if he will keep his consistency and is active.

I know others will say it's just eliminations and like what happened the last conference, Converge fell short in the playoffs even playing well in the eliminations. But still, it's a good sign that Converge is always trying to keep their performance level high even against top teams in the league.
I said it in the past and will say it again. As long as SMC and MVP will not farm players in this team, this is a team to be reckoned with. Watch out for them. I just hope that they will not be the same as other independent teams out there who are becoming a farm teams of these 2 giants.

I don't see this as a bad thing for the SMB, but I'm a bit curious on why Fajardo's performance in Governor's Cup is way below on his averages. I mean in his 5 games, he averaged only 11.8 points, and with those 5 games, he only scored single digits on 2 games. He's averages aren't the usual ones that we are seeing in different conferences.

Is there any problem with him? The changing of coaches might have an effect towards the playstyle of SMB since when they're coach is Coach Leo, he always wanted Fajardo to be the focal person of offense. New coach comes new adjustments to the team isn't it? Cheesy Well, if that's how Coach Gallent want to run the team then there's nothing wrong as long as they're winning.

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February 12, 2023, 08:32:36 AM
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I don't see this as a bad thing for the SMB, but I'm a bit curious on why Fajardo's performance in Governor's Cup is way below on his averages. I mean in his 5 games, he averaged only 11.8 points, and with those 5 games, he only scored single digits on 2 games. He's averages aren't the usual ones that we are seeing in different conferences.

Is there any problem with him? The changing of coaches might have an effect towards the playstyle of SMB since when they're coach is Coach Leo, he always wanted Fajardo to be the focal person of offense. New coach comes new adjustments to the team isn't it? Cheesy Well, if that's how Coach Gallent want to run the team then there's nothing wrong as long as they're winning.

I think the problem is the design of the coach plays. They have a new coach, so probably he has a different strategy, if Fajardo will dominate the paint, for sure they'll be able to get points from him, but it looks like their go-to guy now is CJ Perez, not JMF, that's why the percentage is lower compared to JMF producing in the paint where the percentage is high.

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February 12, 2023, 09:13:05 AM
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ROS vs Blackwater is now live.

I didn't expect it to be a high-scoring game and a close game. Looks like ROS finally get a good import, he was shooting well in this game, but let's see if he will continue that consistency until the end. Also, this Blackwater team's local players are finally contributing, they don't rely too much now on their import as they'll know he will be tired in the 4th quarter.

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February 12, 2023, 10:53:44 AM
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ROS vs Blackwater is now live.

I didn't expect it to be a high-scoring game and a close game. Looks like ROS finally get a good import, he was shooting well in this game, but let's see if he will continue that consistency until the end. Also, this Blackwater team's local players are finally contributing, they don't rely too much now on their import as they'll know he will be tired in the 4th quarter.

Finally ROS get their first win in this conference, close high scoring game with both Imports really helping the team to achieve the win but in the last buzzer it was the import of ROS who snatch the win against the other import. Nothing to say about the locals as they all try to contribute and not to let the import alone to single carry the team, but they are all available in whatever ways they can provide.

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February 12, 2023, 10:59:53 AM
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Next is what fans and viewers mostly anticipated, Manila-Clasico the rivalry that fans really wanted to watch with both sister company plays like they are not related, players are really showing all the best that they can to entertain the fans,.

We will be witnessing a great game now. Ginebra vs Magnolia, this will be an entertaining game to watch, and the odds are almost even, so you can take Ginebra if you believe they will win. By the way, it looks like C. Stand and J Aguilar are still out, but who cares? Ginebra had proven they can win based on their undefeated record.

Edit : C. Stand played but not Japeth.

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February 12, 2023, 11:17:39 AM
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Next is what fans and viewers mostly anticipated, Manila-Clasico the rivalry that fans really wanted to watch with both sister company plays like they are not related, players are really showing all the best that they can to entertain the fans,.

We will be witnessing a great game now. Ginebra vs Magnolia, this will be an entertaining game to watch, and the odds are almost even, so you can take Ginebra if you believe they will win. By the way, it looks like C. Stand and J Aguilar are still out, but who cares? Ginebra had proven they can win based on their undefeated record.

Edit : C. Stand played but not Japeth.

Very important game for Mags as they already got 3 early losses and they are now in the process of testing their new import against the top caliber team, if pride remain the same, this rivalries are what the fans are really enjoying to watch, all players are really aiming to beat one another, a good execution with the system that both teams aleady practicing for so long.

Both will be test now as locals and their imports are all capable to explode especially those known names who contributed well in terms of their offensive attacks.

good odd now for Gin kings ML, live game will give you @1.80  Good Luck mga Kabayan!

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February 12, 2023, 11:20:27 AM
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Next is what fans and viewers mostly anticipated, Manila-Clasico the rivalry that fans really wanted to watch with both sister company plays like they are not related, players are really showing all the best that they can to entertain the fans,.

We will be witnessing a great game now. Ginebra vs Magnolia, this will be an entertaining game to watch, and the odds are almost even, so you can take Ginebra if you believe they will win. By the way, it looks like C. Stand and J Aguilar are still out, but who cares? Ginebra had proven they can win based on their undefeated record.

Edit : C. Stand played but not Japeth.

Very important game for Mags as they already got 3 early losses and they are now in the process of testing their new import against the top caliber team, if pride remain the same, this rivalries are what the fans are really enjoying to watch, all players are really aiming to beat one another, a good execution with the system that both teams aleady practicing for so long.

Both will be test now as locals and their imports are all capable to explode especially those known names who contributed well in terms of their offensive attacks.

good odd now for Gin kings ML, live game will give you @1.80  Good Luck mga Kabayan!

Yes, but they have to earn that win tonight, I hope there will be no rigging that will happen in this game because we know that they are a sister company. I read from the comments from some people saying we have a "sagip kapamilya" tonight, so that's the reason why Ginebra is not the heavy favorites.

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I read from the comments from some people saying we have a "sagip kapamilya" tonight, so that's the reason why Ginebra is not the heavy favorites.

Looks like they are correct, Ginebra are so different in this game, especially Justin Brownlee who does not have attempt based on his average. He just pass the ball and not so aggressive in grabbing a rebounds and defending. This is probably the worst game of Justin Brownlee, he only scored 6 points at the half and all the points are earn in the free throw line.




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February 12, 2023, 12:04:49 PM
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Yes, but they have to earn that win tonight, I hope there will be no rigging that will happen in this game because we know that they are a sister company. I read from the comments from some people saying we have a "sagip kapamilya" tonight, so that's the reason why Ginebra is not the heavy favorites.

Once again, i would say in this column that i don't believe in this rigging thing because if they do this kind of cheating it will be obvious and with the help of technology, this can be discovered on reviewing the replays.

Let's just be optimistic and take advantage of this situation as this won't happen often so with that being i'm betting now for Ginebra +16.5 @1.89. They can lose this game but i think Magnolia won't cover the 16 points spread.

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February 12, 2023, 01:04:12 PM
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I read from the comments from some people saying we have a "sagip kapamilya" tonight, so that's the reason why Ginebra is not the heavy favorites.

Looks like they are correct, Ginebra are so different in this game, especially Justin Brownlee who does not have attempt based on his average. He just pass the ball and not so aggressive in grabbing a rebounds and defending. This is probably the worst game of Justin Brownlee, he only scored 6 points at the half and all the points are earn in the free throw line.

The way Ginebra played the game, its pretty obvious and losing by 30 points is quiet not a characteristics of Ginebra.
Well, this is the first win of Magnolia so maybe its indeed a "sagip kapamilya" game, lucky to those who are able to place a bet with Magnolia. Too bad to those who came to watch the game of Ginebra, they are not in the good form I don't know but its looks like they are just throwing the game.
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February 12, 2023, 01:09:38 PM
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I read from the comments from some people saying we have a "sagip kapamilya" tonight, so that's the reason why Ginebra is not the heavy favorites.

Looks like they are correct, Ginebra are so different in this game, especially Justin Brownlee who does not have attempt based on his average. He just pass the ball and not so aggressive in grabbing a rebounds and defending. This is probably the worst game of Justin Brownlee, he only scored 6 points at the half and all the points are earn in the free throw line.

The way Ginebra played the game, its pretty obvious and losing by 30 points is quiet not a characteristics of Ginebra.
Well, this is the first win of Magnolia so maybe its indeed a "sagip kapamilya" game, lucky to those who are able to place a bet with Magnolia. Too bad to those who came to watch the game of Ginebra, they are not in the good form I don't know but its looks like they are just throwing the game.
This is not their first win, it's actually their 2nd win but they have 3 losses already. Call it a sagip kapamilya but it's really the game of PBA, you can tell how Brownlee played this game compared to the previous games. They really made sure that Ginebra will not be able to comeback, a 30 point lose is not fun on a Sunday game where fans came to see Ginebra to win.

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February 12, 2023, 01:14:39 PM
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I read from the comments from some people saying we have a "sagip kapamilya" tonight, so that's the reason why Ginebra is not the heavy favorites.

Looks like they are correct, Ginebra are so different in this game, especially Justin Brownlee who does not have attempt based on his average. He just pass the ball and not so aggressive in grabbing a rebounds and defending. This is probably the worst game of Justin Brownlee, he only scored 6 points at the half and all the points are earn in the free throw line.

The way Ginebra played the game, its pretty obvious and losing by 30 points is quiet not a characteristics of Ginebra.
Well, this is the first win of Magnolia so maybe its indeed a "sagip kapamilya" game, lucky to those who are able to place a bet with Magnolia. Too bad to those who came to watch the game of Ginebra, they are not in the good form I don't know but its looks like they are just throwing the game.

Sorry game especially to those who spend time with their family and friends and watch the game live, very disappointing performance but that's life it's not always a good night for every team, I don't want that perception about "hulugan ng laro" much better to think that it is another game for Gin king and Magnolia really play well with their new import.

Correction Kabayan, 2nd win of Magnolia with their new import they are now moving forward and with that kind of performances the team really get the help that they needed for this season.

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February 12, 2023, 01:42:08 PM
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Sorry game especially to those who spend time with their family and friends and watch the game live, very disappointing performance but that's life it's not always a good night for every team, I don't want that perception about "hulugan ng laro" much better to think that it is another game for Gin king and Magnolia really play well with their new import.

Correction Kabayan, 2nd win of Magnolia with their new import they are now moving forward and with that kind of performances the team really get the help that they needed for this season.
Ginebra should be ashamed for playing like this, I agree that its pretty obvious and they should not let their connections be affected with the game. We all know they are a sister company but still, they are in the competition and they should not let this to happen. Hoping for a more competitive PBA and not just about the money and connections. Well, we have to move on because this is already beyond our control, PBA is being corrupted and that is the issue since then.

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