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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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May 03, 2024, 02:37:46 AM
 #13381

Games resumes today, and we have two games as usual.

4:30 PM
Magnolia vs DYIP

7:30 PM
NLEX vs Rain or shine.

It's parlay time for me, I think Magnolia is gonna win easily, not expecting a TNT vs converge scenario and I like NLEX to pair with my parlay as they are on a 3 losing streak, they need to break that so they won't continue to slide down.

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May 03, 2024, 12:31:15 PM
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Games resumes today, and we have two games as usual.

4:30 PM
Magnolia vs DYIP

7:30 PM
NLEX vs Rain or shine.

It's parlay time for me, I think Magnolia is gonna win easily, not expecting a TNT vs converge scenario and I like NLEX to pair with my parlay as they are on a 3 losing streak, they need to break that so they won't continue to slide down.

You hit the first one but the 2nd it doesn't look like it will be in your favor. NLEX struggle continues, the first half is over but they are down 19 points now. This team is not known to be good in coming back from huge deficit, so I really don't think they'll gonna come back and win. Anyway, there's still 2 quarters, anything is possible but let's be real, chances are very low.

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May 03, 2024, 12:53:24 PM
 #13383

Games resumes today, and we have two games as usual.

4:30 PM
Magnolia vs DYIP

7:30 PM
NLEX vs Rain or shine.

It's parlay time for me, I think Magnolia is gonna win easily, not expecting a TNT vs converge scenario and I like NLEX to pair with my parlay as they are on a 3 losing streak, they need to break that so they won't continue to slide down.

You hit the first one but the 2nd it doesn't look like it will be in your favor. NLEX struggle continues, the first half is over but they are down 19 points now. This team is not known to be good in coming back from huge deficit, so I really don't think they'll gonna come back and win. Anyway, there's still 2 quarters, anything is possible but let's be real, chances are very low.

Might be a messed up with NLEX as RoS is leading double digits almost 3 mins of 3rd quarter though there's still 1 full quarter for them to try rallying back, they need to push and make some decent defense and make sure that they will execute good game plays, still not done yet as knowing PBA we knew that something might happen and who knows a strong hands behind manipulate the outcome.. Hahaha, just saying.

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May 03, 2024, 12:56:09 PM
 #13384

Games resumes today, and we have two games as usual.

4:30 PM
Magnolia vs DYIP

7:30 PM
NLEX vs Rain or shine.

It's parlay time for me, I think Magnolia is gonna win easily, not expecting a TNT vs converge scenario and I like NLEX to pair with my parlay as they are on a 3 losing streak, they need to break that so they won't continue to slide down.

You hit the first one but the 2nd it doesn't look like it will be in your favor. NLEX struggle continues, the first half is over but they are down 19 points now. This team is not known to be good in coming back from huge deficit, so I really don't think they'll gonna come back and win. Anyway, there's still 2 quarters, anything is possible but let's be real, chances are very low.

Might be a messed up with NLEX as RoS is leading double digits almost 3 mins of 3rd quarter though there's still 1 full quarter for them to try rallying back, they need to push and make some decent defense and make sure that they will execute good game plays, still not done yet as knowing PBA we knew that something might happen and who knows a strong hands behind manipulate the outcome.. Hahaha, just saying.

And the losing streak will continue. I'm not anymore expecting because if they were to comeback, they should have done it in the 3rd quarter and make it a single digit deficit only entering the 4th quarter. This is not a game for them, I thought NLEX were for real but with their 4 straight losses, including this one, I'd say they are expose, they need to improve their defense if they want to be in the playoffs and have a chance.

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Games resumes today, and we have two games as usual.

4:30 PM
Magnolia vs DYIP

7:30 PM
NLEX vs Rain or shine.

It's parlay time for me, I think Magnolia is gonna win easily, not expecting a TNT vs converge scenario and I like NLEX to pair with my parlay as they are on a 3 losing streak, they need to break that so they won't continue to slide down.

You hit the first one but the 2nd it doesn't look like it will be in your favor. NLEX struggle continues, the first half is over but they are down 19 points now. This team is not known to be good in coming back from huge deficit, so I really don't think they'll gonna come back and win. Anyway, there's still 2 quarters, anything is possible but let's be real, chances are very low.

That's very disappointing, NLEX didn't even came to play. I was expecting they'll give their best as it's a must win game for them so they'll not drop in the ranking, but they played they played another bad game, like how they played versus the Phoenix. The hype is over for this team, although Bollick could score 38 points in this game but if that will result to a blowout loss, it's still useless.

NLEX only have 2 players with double digit scoring while ROS had 6, it means they are helping as a team to win unlike the NLEX where the offense are pretty much focus on Bollick, and this is what we get.

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May 03, 2024, 02:33:11 PM
 #13386

Games resumes today, and we have two games as usual.

4:30 PM
Magnolia vs DYIP

7:30 PM
NLEX vs Rain or shine.

It's parlay time for me, I think Magnolia is gonna win easily, not expecting a TNT vs converge scenario and I like NLEX to pair with my parlay as they are on a 3 losing streak, they need to break that so they won't continue to slide down.

You hit the first one but the 2nd it doesn't look like it will be in your favor. NLEX struggle continues, the first half is over but they are down 19 points now. This team is not known to be good in coming back from huge deficit, so I really don't think they'll gonna come back and win. Anyway, there's still 2 quarters, anything is possible but let's be real, chances are very low.

That's very disappointing, NLEX didn't even came to play. I was expecting they'll give their best as it's a must win game for them so they'll not drop in the ranking, but they played they played another bad game, like how they played versus the Phoenix. The hype is over for this team, although Bollick could score 38 points in this game but if that will result to a blowout loss, it's still useless.

NLEX only have 2 players with double digit scoring while ROS had 6, it means they are helping as a team to win unlike the NLEX where the offense are pretty much focus on Bollick, and this is what we get.

That's alright mate, better luck next time. So now you'll know that the game of basketball has already change, it's not only about a star player carrying a team as teamwork is more important. Just look at JMF, he is the best player of the SMB but he needs his teammates to win, and they are now enjoying a 10-0 record in the season. I think NLEX has to change their strategy, I'm not saying they should not use Bollick a lot, but they need to move the ball welll so everyone has a chance to shoot the ball and that way their confidence will also boost.

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May 04, 2024, 09:34:35 AM
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I read a headline that tells about Converge gonna draft Kai Sotto to their team if ever he wants to play on PBA. But his manager retaliates and said that even he'll be offered twenty million pesos, he's not going to accept it because they're going to push further to his journey to international leagues and get close at least to NBA dream of his. They're still going to try no matter what happens just for the sake of the dream of Kai to play there and that's a wise answer.

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May 04, 2024, 11:06:27 AM
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I read a headline that tells about Converge gonna draft Kai Sotto to their team if ever he wants to play on PBA. But his manager retaliates and said that even he'll be offered twenty million pesos, he's not going to accept it because they're going to push further to his journey to international leagues and get close at least to NBA dream of his. They're still going to try no matter what happens just for the sake of the dream of Kai to play there and that's a wise answer.

They are in the position to deny that offer as Kai Sotto's career has been progressing. Big man like him is in demand, and he is still young and could still develop his skills. I don't understand, 20 million? For real? the PBA is dying and people are not watching it anymore, where will they get that 20 million salary?

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May 04, 2024, 12:00:21 PM
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I read a headline that tells about Converge gonna draft Kai Sotto to their team if ever he wants to play on PBA. But his manager retaliates and said that even he'll be offered twenty million pesos, he's not going to accept it because they're going to push further to his journey to international leagues and get close at least to NBA dream of his. They're still going to try no matter what happens just for the sake of the dream of Kai to play there and that's a wise answer.

They are in the position to deny that offer as Kai Sotto's career has been progressing. Big man like him is in demand, and he is still young and could still develop his skills. I don't understand, 20 million? For real? the PBA is dying and people are not watching it anymore, where will they get that 20 million salary?

Kai Sotto could earn $10 million if he plays with the NBA, so they'll gamble on that, besides, the PBA can wait, if Kai failed in achieving his dream, then that's the time they'll talk with his camp and get that 20 million ready. For now, Kai has to take bigger opportunity, not so secure but if he wins, he can make a fortune on it.

Meanwhile, we have the SMB vs Meralco, I thought it's gonna be another easy win by the SMB but it seems like they'll take the loss here and will not play harder since they already secured the number 1 spot and the twice to beat advantage.

66-82 now entering in the fourth quarter, I'm not expecting a come back.

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May 04, 2024, 12:39:00 PM
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66-82 now entering in the fourth quarter, I'm not expecting a come back.

Just almost a comeback, SMB had a big run in the fourth quarter, Meralco got lucky they were able to hold on but winning only by 3 points. They gave up their big lead, if that was a very important game by the SMB, I'm sure they'll win that game. Anyway, since it's a no bearing game for SMB, that's fine for them and good for Meralco as their ranking have improve.

Great game by Hodge, 20 points in this game, actually I'm surprise as I don't see him score this a lot, he is just so focus with his tireless defense but great he had that conribution, and not only that, he also grabbed 13 rebounds.

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May 04, 2024, 07:35:20 PM
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Kai Sotto could earn $10 million if he plays with the NBA, so they'll gamble on that, besides, the PBA can wait, if Kai failed in achieving his dream, then that's the time they'll talk with his camp and get that 20 million ready. For now, Kai has to take bigger opportunity, not so secure but if he wins, he can make a fortune on it.
Yup, it's better to keep trying chasing his dream he's still young and still have a lots of improvement for his game, as long as he have that determination to pursue there's always an open opportunities for him, PBA might be the last option for him as aside from NBA there are many other leagues who can pay him pretty much better though it's his and the camp who's handling him to decide for that.


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Meanwhile, we have the SMB vs Meralco, I thought it's gonna be another easy win by the SMB but it seems like they'll take the loss here and will not play harder since they already secured the number 1 spot and the twice to beat advantage.

66-82 now entering in the fourth quarter, I'm not expecting a come back.

What happened to that sweep? hehehe kidding aside just mentioning Cruz statement but that's how the game works, they can win but they can also lose, and today is the day for them to lose, though like what you mentioned no bearing game as they already secure the twice to beat advantage after taking the number one spot.

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May 04, 2024, 10:04:50 PM
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I read a headline that tells about Converge gonna draft Kai Sotto to their team if ever he wants to play on PBA. But his manager retaliates and said that even he'll be offered twenty million pesos, he's not going to accept it because they're going to push further to his journey to international leagues and get close at least to NBA dream of his. They're still going to try no matter what happens just for the sake of the dream of Kai to play there and that's a wise answer.

They are in the position to deny that offer as Kai Sotto's career has been progressing. Big man like him is in demand, and he is still young and could still develop his skills. I don't understand, 20 million? For real?
That's just a given figure and example by the manager. I doubt it that Converge will give him that salary for his entire contract per season. That's a lot of money to be honest and no team except MVP and SMC could give that to their best players.

the PBA is dying and people are not watching it anymore, where will they get that 20 million salary?
I've seen the raffle that they've given, well that's a nice pack of bread to the winners through their page. But sure, the league is dying and don't be serious about the given figure because the manager said that even if they'll pay Kai with that amount, they won't go to PBA.

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May 05, 2024, 04:42:03 AM
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I read a headline that tells about Converge gonna draft Kai Sotto to their team if ever he wants to play on PBA. But his manager retaliates and said that even he'll be offered twenty million pesos, he's not going to accept it because they're going to push further to his journey to international leagues and get close at least to NBA dream of his. They're still going to try no matter what happens just for the sake of the dream of Kai to play there and that's a wise answer.

They are in the position to deny that offer as Kai Sotto's career has been progressing. Big man like him is in demand, and he is still young and could still develop his skills. I don't understand, 20 million? For real?
That's just a given figure and example by the manager. I doubt it that Converge will give him that salary for his entire contract per season. That's a lot of money to be honest and no team except MVP and SMC could give that to their best players.
20 million per season, that seemed too low for him considering his status now. I mean he can earned more than that abroad, and when Kai will play in the PBA, will they promise to increase the contract? I doubt that, so while they could offer that amount, but we are looking of his future here and he will not grow like that in the PBA.

the PBA is dying and people are not watching it anymore, where will they get that 20 million salary?
I've seen the raffle that they've given, well that's a nice pack of bread to the winners through their page. But sure, the league is dying and don't be serious about the given figure because the manager said that even if they'll pay Kai with that amount, they won't go to PBA.

They won't go because they probably think Converge are not serious with that offer. And also, does it guarantee they'll become a championship team once Kai join them? NO.

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It's Sunday, a day for Ginebra as it's expected that the fans will come.

On our first game, we have the TNT vs Magnolia,  both teams needs to win for positioning especially for TNT who loss on their last game. However, by saying that it doesn't mean that I'll be betting on them. I saw their weakness on the last game so I'm rooting for Magnolia here to win.

The betting spread are as follows.

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The 2nd game, it's NLEX vs Ginebra, and Ginebra is slightly favored by -3.5

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May 05, 2024, 02:56:58 PM
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It's Sunday, a day for Ginebra as it's expected that the fans will come.

On our first game, we have the TNT vs Magnolia,  both teams needs to win for positioning especially for TNT who loss on their last game. However, by saying that it doesn't mean that I'll be betting on them. I saw their weakness on the last game so I'm rooting for Magnolia here to win.

The betting spread are as follows.

TNT +1.5
Magolia -1.5

The 2nd game, it's NLEX vs Ginebra, and Ginebra is slightly favored by -3.5

TNT managed to win against Mags while NLEX upset the crowd favorite, it's really tough to bet even how careful you analyze the game and what's the capabilities and the advantages of each teams against their opponents, upset really happen, Not sure what happen with Ginebra seems that they can't make a good game play with that so very low scoring game, they can easily use the twin towers against the small line up of NLEX.

Berto exploded again with 25 points though he's known of doing that, a leader who really play tough games and loves the competition.

Congrats to whoever place a bet for NLEX money line sure thing that it deserves a celebration!

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May 05, 2024, 04:23:10 PM
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I read a headline that tells about Converge gonna draft Kai Sotto to their team if ever he wants to play on PBA. But his manager retaliates and said that even he'll be offered twenty million pesos, he's not going to accept it because they're going to push further to his journey to international leagues and get close at least to NBA dream of his. They're still going to try no matter what happens just for the sake of the dream of Kai to play there and that's a wise answer.

They are in the position to deny that offer as Kai Sotto's career has been progressing. Big man like him is in demand, and he is still young and could still develop his skills. I don't understand, 20 million? For real?
That's just a given figure and example by the manager. I doubt it that Converge will give him that salary for his entire contract per season. That's a lot of money to be honest and no team except MVP and SMC could give that to their best players.
20 million per season, that seemed too low for him considering his status now. I mean he can earned more than that abroad, and when Kai will play in the PBA, will they promise to increase the contract? I doubt that, so while they could offer that amount, but we are looking of his future here and he will not grow like that in the PBA.
IMHO, that's already high considering that this is in our country. But that's just an example given by his manager that whether Converge or any team will offer Kai with that salary, they won't bite it.

the PBA is dying and people are not watching it anymore, where will they get that 20 million salary?
I've seen the raffle that they've given, well that's a nice pack of bread to the winners through their page. But sure, the league is dying and don't be serious about the given figure because the manager said that even if they'll pay Kai with that amount, they won't go to PBA.

They won't go because they probably think Converge are not serious with that offer. And also, does it guarantee they'll become a championship team once Kai join them? NO.
Don't get serious guys, that's just an amount that it's like even they will be offering Kai with such, they won't be going to PBA. But I guess that will change once they see that the journey of Kai to NBA fails or to any leagues like Euroleague. If so, he'll probably stay to B League as he's loved there.

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May 06, 2024, 07:17:18 AM
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It's Sunday, a day for Ginebra as it's expected that the fans will come.

On our first game, we have the TNT vs Magnolia,  both teams needs to win for positioning especially for TNT who loss on their last game. However, by saying that it doesn't mean that I'll be betting on them. I saw their weakness on the last game so I'm rooting for Magnolia here to win.

The betting spread are as follows.

TNT +1.5
Magolia -1.5

The 2nd game, it's NLEX vs Ginebra, and Ginebra is slightly favored by -3.5

TNT managed to win against Mags while NLEX upset the crowd favorite, it's really tough to bet even how careful you analyze the game and what's the capabilities and the advantages of each teams against their opponents, upset really happen, Not sure what happen with Ginebra seems that they can't make a good game play with that so very low scoring game, they can easily use the twin towers against the small line up of NLEX.
I was wrong picking the Magnolia but I was never wrong that TNT have some weakness, it's just that they played better this game and got the win. Better luck next time for me, I'm sure Magnolia are going to come back and we will have an exciting elimination games coming soon.

Berto exploded again with 25 points though he's known of doing that, a leader who really play tough games and loves the competition.

Congrats to whoever place a bet for NLEX money line sure thing that it deserves a celebration!

That was necessary because they were on a losing streak, they needed that win to gain confidence in the elimination round. I thought they'll win comfortably but they also have some weakness, Ginebra displayed their never say die attitude in the 4th quarter and almost completed a comeback win.

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May 06, 2024, 08:27:11 AM
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It's Sunday, a day for Ginebra as it's expected that the fans will come.

On our first game, we have the TNT vs Magnolia,  both teams needs to win for positioning especially for TNT who loss on their last game. However, by saying that it doesn't mean that I'll be betting on them. I saw their weakness on the last game so I'm rooting for Magnolia here to win.

The betting spread are as follows.

TNT +1.5
Magolia -1.5

The 2nd game, it's NLEX vs Ginebra, and Ginebra is slightly favored by -3.5

TNT managed to win against Mags while NLEX upset the crowd favorite, it's really tough to bet even how careful you analyze the game and what's the capabilities and the advantages of each teams against their opponents, upset really happen, Not sure what happen with Ginebra seems that they can't make a good game play with that so very low scoring game, they can easily use the twin towers against the small line up of NLEX.
I was wrong picking the Magnolia but I was never wrong that TNT have some weakness, it's just that they played better this game and got the win. Better luck next time for me, I'm sure Magnolia are going to come back and we will have an exciting elimination games coming soon.

Berto exploded again with 25 points though he's known of doing that, a leader who really play tough games and loves the competition.

Congrats to whoever place a bet for NLEX money line sure thing that it deserves a celebration!

That was necessary because they were on a losing streak, they needed that win to gain confidence in the elimination round. I thought they'll win comfortably but they also have some weakness, Ginebra displayed their never say die attitude in the 4th quarter and almost completed a comeback win.

Lucky for them as the time already short for the gin kings though like you said they need this win to gain confidence , it's really important for each players to play everything if they wanted to make it and take the next round, it's a hard competition for them as all those teams who are on the top are really got something to counter them and give tough competition,

 NLEX should not lean only for berto but they need to come up with their resources,  if they continue putting that big burden to him opponent will focus the defense on him and  for sure there's always a  man for the job in each squad that they are competing against with.

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May 06, 2024, 03:12:15 PM
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NLEX should not lean only for berto but they need to come up with their resources,  if they continue putting that big burden to him opponent will focus the defense on him and  for sure there's always a  man for the job in each squad that they are competing against with.

I guess they didn't learn on this previous losses. they are still heavily relying on him, Berto now in NLEX is just the Donovan Mitchell of the Cavaliers, so let's see how they'll progress in the elimination match. Actually, NLEX is capable of beating strong teams as they had proven that by beating the Ginebra, and they can also play a defensive game as this game only has a total of 148 points, so it was a very defensive game.

On this particular game, only Bollick who were able to score at least 20 points from all the players, he scored 25 from 10-24 shooting, or 30% of the total team attempt.

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May 06, 2024, 03:28:37 PM
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NLEX should not lean only for berto but they need to come up with their resources,  if they continue putting that big burden to him opponent will focus the defense on him and  for sure there's always a  man for the job in each squad that they are competing against with.

I guess they didn't learn on this previous losses. they are still heavily relying on him, Berto now in NLEX is just the Donovan Mitchell of the Cavaliers, so let's see how they'll progress in the elimination match. Actually, NLEX is capable of beating strong teams as they had proven that by beating the Ginebra, and they can also play a defensive game as this game only has a total of 148 points, so it was a very defensive game.

On this particular game, only Bollick who were able to score at least 20 points from all the players, he scored 25 from 10-24 shooting, or 30% of the total team attempt.

Good comparison, seems that a good defensive stop will lead them losing the game, if there's no one who can provide them numbers that will let them survive then there's no chance for them to reach the finals or if ever they manage to reach the finals and who's waiting for them? SMB? Gin Kings or maybe TNT? those are teams that have solid cores, meaning to say that they are complete with both defense and offense, though TNT is not that tough as how they are before but still got that rotations that will give their opponents a hard competition to win, but then again, lets wait for the next round and see how NLEX will adjust and how they will continue their campaign for this season.

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