La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[snipie]

Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

I disagree with this point haha; I think Simeone is the main problem of the Atletico side; the clubside has signed countless of top attackers and none of them is able to perform under Simeone as manager. his model of football is outdated and he needs to change his approach or be changed if Atletico Madrid wants to challenge again

Simeone tactics aren't that bad, they were useful in the past but keeping the same style the whole time will end up by forcing the others to know it and counter it.
I think that Simeone should update his methods, rather than to be switched, if he wants to keep competing and ATM risks to not find a better coach for the moment

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[TelolettOm]

Especially this season 22/23 Atletico Madrid have not been very active in the transfer market, Diego Simeone is still taking advantage of the strikers options available with several additions such as Alvaro Morata. So far, Atletico Madrid's performance has been far from what was expected, they have continued to experience unsatisfactory results in recent weeks, this has left Atletico Madrid increasingly far behind their rivals such as Barcelona and Real Madrid.

Atletico Madrid was not very active in the transfer market because they may have not enough money to buy new players. And Simeone may think their current players are good enough for this season. Sadly, Simeone was wrong, the performance of the players didn't as expected. The attackers cannot score many goals so far. While the defenders become too weak and easier to be penetrated by the opponents' strikers. Simeone must rebuild these lines, he must buy some new players to strengthen the team in January. They may already miss the chance to win the title, but they must finish in UCL zone at least.

[Sebas.tian]

if you don't have two teams in your squad (practically) you are destined for this drop
the year my beloved team, Atalanta, went to the champions league was a disaster..
the champions league gives you a lot of money, but it totally consumes you

The Champions League does spend a lot of money to buy very professional players. If you want to get good results, you have to use a fairly high capital because if you don't buy good players, it will make it difficult for your team to win in the Champions League.

I agree with you, since Liverpool sold Sadio mane to other team and they failed to use a huge amount of money to sign in a potential player like what Manchester city did by using a huge amount of money to signed in Haaland into the team to improve higher. If you want your team to improve well in this season, do everything possible within your power to budget a huge amount of capital for a talented player, I believe the team will definitely get it right before the end of the tournament. I think, many teams will use this opportunity to look for a talented players that will add value to their team in a way their fans will believe that they are in a good position to win this la Liga league title.

[shogun47]

Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

I disagree with this point haha; I think Simeone is the main problem of the Atletico side; the clubside has signed countless of top attackers and none of them is able to perform under Simeone as manager. his model of football is outdated and he needs to change his approach or be changed if Atletico Madrid wants to challenge again

It isn't even the key for Atletico Madrid to sign a ton of awesome offensive players. As you just said Simeone's style to let his squad play is quite unorthodox. It is not even only about a strong defense, but about destroying the game of the opponent in many unattractive ways from a fan's point of view. Atletico is the team that took it to the limit to foul the opponent and take time off the clock. Sometime watching them play in important and interesting games almost hurt my eyes... But they have been successful, that's a fact, for quite some time. They just needed that one strike and won the game by their questionable tactics. Now a lot of teams got used to that and I also think that after some time a coach just can't infuse the same energy into a club anymore.

[Josefjix]

Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

Diego Simeon is one of the best coach in Laliga and have experience whenever he play big teams either in Laliga or the champions league. There's countable times he have won real madrid and barcelona in league games, and have also won the laliga title on his time with Athletico madrid. Diego simeon should sign more vital players in the upcoming market, his squad have certain problems which is needs fixing, Athletico pattern of game is strongly defensive formation and they are really good at it. Simeon might not have sharp Frontlines but his defendine is unbreakable and only takes good teamwork from opponents before they can net the post.

[hashrateproducts]

It isn't even the key for Atletico Madrid to sign a ton of awesome offensive players. As you just said Simeone's style to let his squad play is quite unorthodox. It is not even only about a strong defense, but about destroying the game of the opponent in many unattractive ways from a fan's point of view. Atletico is the team that took it to the limit to foul the opponent and take time off the clock. Sometime watching them play in important and interesting games almost hurt my eyes... But they have been successful, that's a fact, for quite some time. They just needed that one strike and won the game by their questionable tactics. Now a lot of teams got used to that and I also think that after some time a coach just can't infuse the same energy into a club anymore.

Diego simeon have been with Athletico management for a lengthy time and knows how to operates in the club. He knows the type of players he needs and the ones he doesn't need, Simeon pattern of game is highly defensive pattern and therefore he has you defenders in his squad. Athletico madrid among one of the best teams in the laliga, not an easy job competiting with real madrid and Barcelona for the trophy.

[makishart]

if you don't have two teams in your squad (practically) you are destined for this drop
the year my beloved team, Atalanta, went to the champions league was a disaster..
the champions league gives you a lot of money, but it totally consumes you

The Champions League does spend a lot of money to buy very professional players. If you want to get good results, you have to use a fairly high capital because if you don't buy good players, it will make it difficult for your team to win in the Champions League.

you are right If you want to win the Champions League title, you must have talented players in your squad. Otherwise, the competition cannot survive in a competitive place like the Champions League. Having talented players in the squad also requires an experienced coach and a good match strategy. Without it, winning the Champions League title is impossible.

I don't think so. The champion league can be won if you have a strong team. A strong team didn't always mean if you must also having so many expensive players in your club. i meant if you are having a club with so many talented players and good team work and your team possible to win it too. You must also see how even some big clubs with so many expensive players like PSG and city never able to win the champion league. Talented players didn't always mean expensive players. It's a player that was very skillful in football.
There's no guarantee if you have lots of good resources will make your way to win the champion league became so easy

[Docnaster]

if you don't have two teams in your squad (practically) you are destined for this drop
the year my beloved team, Atalanta, went to the champions league was a disaster..
the champions league gives you a lot of money, but it totally consumes you

The Champions League does spend a lot of money to buy very professional players. If you want to get good results, you have to use a fairly high capital because if you don't buy good players, it will make it difficult for your team to win in the Champions League.

I agree with you, since Liverpool sold Sadio mane to other team and they failed to use a huge amount of money to sign in a potential player like what Manchester city did by using a huge amount of money to signed in Haaland into the team to improve higher. If you want your team to improve well in this season, do everything possible within your power to budget a huge amount of capital for a talented player, I believe the team will definitely get it right before the end of the tournament. I think, many teams will use this opportunity to look for a talented players that will add value to their team in a way their fans will believe that they are in a good position to win this la Liga league title.

How much did you think that Liverpool sold Mane? It was about £30M in totally while £27M was the main payment. This money is not even close to what Nunez was gotten with. The business of Mane didn't give Liverpool money because Mane's contract was few months to end and based on the clause he has with his in his Southampton to Liverpool agreement.

[babo]

if you don't have two teams in your squad (practically) you are destined for this drop
the year my beloved team, Atalanta, went to the champions league was a disaster..
the champions league gives you a lot of money, but it totally consumes you

The Champions League does spend a lot of money to buy very professional players. If you want to get good results, you have to use a fairly high capital because if you don't buy good players, it will make it difficult for your team to win in the Champions League.

Yes, but that's not all, even if you already have a good team and want to get results in the league and in the Champions League, that's not enough. Players get tired and therefore it doesn't help much to have only one team of professional players. This I mean.

[KTChampions]

Xavi got everyone he wanted in the summer (putting Barcelona in an even more difficult financial position) but Barcelona continue to lose every big game. What do you say if this continues and the result of the season is second place in La Liga again? Barcelona are on the verge of bankruptcy and I don't think they can wait longer than 2 seasons for a good result from Xavi. In modern football, this is more than the maximum term.

Well 2 years, does he have to go? So if he does leave, who will replace him? There are still quite a lot of opportunities for the League and UEL champions. So let's see.
Financial problems, this season Xavi is quite surprising. He shopped quite a lot of players. But I've read, Barcelona is likely to have difficulty paying players' salaries in the following year.

Any qualified coach, now there are such on the market (they always are). But it's more important to change the strategy (although it's too late to do it) - if Barcelona hadn't gone all-in, but suffered a couple of years with a less stellar squad, nothing terrible would have happened. Most likely they would have finished second in La Liga in the same way and from time to time reached the playoffs of the Champions League. In doing so, they could sort out their debts and start a "normal" life.

[harapan]

Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

I disagree with this point haha; I think Simeone is the main problem of the Atletico side; the clubside has signed countless of top attackers and none of them is able to perform under Simeone as manager. his model of football is outdated and he needs to change his approach or be changed if Atletico Madrid wants to challenge again

Simeone tactics aren't that bad, they were useful in the past but keeping the same style the whole time will end up by forcing the others to know it and counter it.
I think that Simeone should update his methods, rather than to be switched, if he wants to keep competing and ATM risks to not find a better coach for the moment

Id love to see Athletico Madrid changing him for another coach if I am correct he has stayed good ten years as the coach of Athletico Madrid. Those defending tactics don't work in these modern days football. If they have a good sight then Thomas Tuchel will do a good job at that club getting a replacement for him won't be difficult, give Tuchel the players he wants and he'll win the La Liga for ATM.
The time of Diego Simeone should come to an end at that club.

[Lorokan]

Id love to see Athletico Madrid changing him for another coach if I am correct he has stayed good ten years as the coach of Athletico Madrid. Those defending tactics don't work in these modern days football. 
The time of Diego Simeone should come to an end at that club.

You have stated the truth absolutely; those defending tactics are just not applicable anymore in todays football; it kills the confident of your attackers and makes your midfielders and defenders do extra work that leads to fatigue and loss of morale. I hppe Simeone can be alittle flexible in his coaching tactics, or he would be replaced as the gaffer at Atletico Madrid.

Also, if Simeone wants to continue that kind of football; then he needs to start winning matches

[wmaurik]

because being able to compete with Real Madrid and Barcelona in several seasons made Diego Simeon considered successful with Atletico Madrid, they didn't have many, didn't have many quality players but they were able to compete fiercely with Real Madrid and even Diego Simeon was able to present impressive achievements. brilliant.
It's been 11 years since Diego Simeon has coached Atletico Madrid, of course he clearly knows the team's needs.

The need for the Atletico Madrid team this season is to continue to play well to get the best ranking in the standings. I personally really believe that Atletico Madrid will be able to do that after the break and return to La Liga. Because Atletico Madrid has the same number of points as Athletic Bilbao and not so far away from Real Sociedad, so Atletico Madrid's chances of overtaking the two teams that are in 3rd and 4th place are still very possible.

[hahay]

Id love to see Athletico Madrid changing him for another coach if I am correct he has stayed good ten years as the coach of Athletico Madrid. Those defending tactics don't work in these modern days football. 
The time of Diego Simeone should come to an end at that club.

You have stated the truth absolutely; those defending tactics are just not applicable anymore in todays football; it kills the confident of your attackers and makes your midfielders and defenders do extra work that leads to fatigue and loss of morale. I hppe Simeone can be alittle flexible in his coaching tactics, or he would be replaced as the gaffer at Atletico Madrid.

Also, if Simeone wants to continue that kind of football; then he needs to start winning matches

Any strategy will still work well if they have the right players to implement the strategy and also, if they are more focused on defensive lines or defensive strategies. So, of course, Atletico must have midfielders and attackers who can move quickly, because many of the mediocre teams also carry out counter-attacking strategies and the results are good too.
That is, if a mediocre team can get good results from implementing a counterattack strategy, then when this strategy is implemented by a top team, then of course the strategy will produce good results too.

Even though Diego Simeone has indeed been here for a long time and that could become an icon for Atletico as well, that doesn't mean Diego Simeone has to last forever.
Because Diego Simeone himself is still under contract with Atletico until 2024, which of course over time Atletico will have a new coach.

[samuraijin]

It isn't even the key for Atletico Madrid to sign a ton of awesome offensive players. As you just said Simeone's style to let his squad play is quite unorthodox. It is not even only about a strong defense, but about destroying the game of the opponent in many unattractive ways from a fan's point of view. Atletico is the team that took it to the limit to foul the opponent and take time off the clock. Sometime watching them play in important and interesting games almost hurt my eyes... But they have been successful, that's a fact, for quite some time. They just needed that one strike and won the game by their questionable tactics. Now a lot of teams got used to that and I also think that after some time a coach just can't infuse the same energy into a club anymore.

Diego simeon have been with Athletico management for a lengthy time and knows how to operates in the club. He knows the type of players he needs and the ones he doesn't need, Simeon pattern of game is highly defensive pattern and therefore he has you defenders in his squad. Athletico madrid among one of the best teams in the laliga, not an easy job competiting with real madrid and Barcelona for the trophy.

But bad luck always comes to Diego Simeone who has always failed in several years ago in several Champions League Finals at that time with Real Madrid, at least giving a record for their experience, but the record they achieved in the five matches before the international break began, they only won 1 match, two defeats and 2 draws, of course that is not a good achievement for a club like Atlético Madrid, of course Diego Simeone must add ammunition when the market window opens in January, to improve the game that was previously bad...

[rahmad2nd]

you are right If you want to win the Champions League title, you must have talented players in your squad. Otherwise, the competition cannot survive in a competitive place like the Champions League. Having talented players in the squad also requires an experienced coach and a good match strategy. Without it, winning the Champions League title is impossible.

What you're talking about is technical issues, all the teams that go into the Champions League will do their best with the depth of players they have, plus the coach. however, basically. what happens on the field is not necessarily easy as we speak, despite having very talented players.

I will take some examples, PSG vs Bencifa. on paper, the players PSG have are better than Benfica's players. but what happened on the field, Benfica was not automatically defeated by PSG, and it has been proven.
let's see Barcelona, ​​so far Xavi has brought Barcelona better than the previous coach. even in the transfer market at the beginning of last season, he brought in many players, including one dangerous striker, Lewandowski. Barcelona qualifies to be one of the strong challengers in the champions league competition with the depth of the players they have. but alas, implementing the wrong strategy can make the game messy, the core players are underperforming, plus the tough defenders they have are seriously injured. finally, Barcelona must be eliminated.

In essence, football is not only a matter of financial resources to make the team stronger, yes that is one factor, but what happens on the field is teamwork, coach's strategy, players' performance and the luck factor.

[arimamib]

you are right If you want to win the Champions League title, you must have talented players in your squad.

Having talented players in a squad does not guarantee a club can lift the Champions League title, PSG is an example that you can see.

Simeone tactics aren't that bad, they were useful in the past but keeping the same style the whole time will end up by forcing the others to know it and counter it.
I think that Simeone should update his methods, rather than to be switched, if he wants to keep competing and ATM risks to not find a better coach for the moment

Simeone has been working at Atletico for too long, he has used the same tactic almost every season. The problem Atletico have faced this season is not tactics, but team performance. Atletico poor performance due to not being able to maintain its performance. However, whatever happens to Atletico remains Simeone's responsibility.

Atletico weakness this season lies in the performance of the players, they don't play as a team. Atletico players looked confused on the pitch which made their plans not go as expected. Simeone can use the world cup break to improve the quality of the team, Simeone can submit a request to bring in several players in the January transfer market to increase the strength of the Squad.

[Davian144]

you are right If you want to win the Champions League title, you must have talented players in your squad. Otherwise, the competition cannot survive in a competitive place like the Champions League. Having talented players in the squad also requires an experienced coach and a good match strategy. Without it, winning the Champions League title is impossible.

Apart from that, the cohesiveness of the players in carrying out the strategy of the coach is also very much needed, because it will be very useless if the players are good and good but cannot be relied upon in terms of working together very compactly in their squad in every match, any competition trophy will never be obtained. by team. Because in a team squad you are not required to show more emotion and selfishness by wanting to score more goals without wanting to share with your friends in the same team.

[posi]

I think Atletico Madrid he’s not going to improve their performance unless something changes drastically. I think they need to bring in some good players. Gone are those times when the match between Barcelona, Real Madrid, and Atletico Madrid happened to be very interesting and influential. Right now, almost all the time, Atletico Madrid is not given any chance against these two teams. And it is understandable why that happens. These two teams are very much better and capable of beating Atletico Madrid.

I don’t think we also can blame the coach. I think his tactics are actually not that bad. The problem is the plans that he’s making are not being implemented in the field well enough in my opinion.

This season is surely having some serious troubles for the Atlético Madrid they are currently having 24 points which are sharing by two other teams as well and their spot is fifth just because of goal difference for me their performance is surely not going to have any good impression in last five games they have only five points with losing matches against teams like Cadiz, Mallorca and Español is surely matter of concern which needs to be quick fix otherwise they are not going to have any other positive replacement for this all.

Difference from second spotted team is 11 points but from third spot Real Sociedad is just two points which mean they are still good in education and can do thing s as well now after break they have to improve defence which is surely creating problems for them.

There is a problem regardless of whether Atletico Madrid is able to play better and get a head start over their opponents. There is no way I am sure if they will actually be able to move ahead of that third position in the end. The leaders of La Liga, which are Real Madrid and Barcelona, will not take them seriously unless they are strong enough to compete for the first two positions, because I don't think they are able to compete for those two positions. Current situation is not in favor of Atletico Madrid at moment. All of us agree that they need to improve, but improvement does not seem to be taking place. And as long as improvement does not happen, the performance of Atletico Madrid is going to continue to be like this.

[bering]

Simeone is a great coach and i don't think that the problem problem of atleteco is in the coach, but the team need to find new players asap because the squad is really need fresh blood, simeone is one of the best coaches in the last 10 years in my opinion and i don't imagine atleteco without him

I disagree with this point haha; I think Simeone is the main problem of the Atletico side; the clubside has signed countless of top attackers and none of them is able to perform under Simeone as manager. his model of football is outdated and he needs to change his approach or be changed if Atletico Madrid wants to challenge again

Simeone tactics aren't that bad, they were useful in the past but keeping the same style the whole time will end up by forcing the others to know it and counter it.
I think that Simeone should update his methods, rather than to be switched, if he wants to keep competing and ATM risks to not find a better coach for the moment

For me it's not about the tactics that in my opinion Simeone has failed to solved Atletico weakness since last season that this team has lack of sharp strikers and even only Luis Suarez who can scoring more than 10 goals in Laliga for last season but unfortunately Atletico has decide not to extended his contract because they thought Suarez has spend and cannot playing again at high level of competition such as Laliga and Simeone has attempts to find the replacement of Suarez with bring back to home Alvaro Morata from Juventus but apparently this is bad decision for him because Morata cannot playing as his expectation and now nothing he can do unless accept this situation because Atletico don't have much money to buy new players