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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
Total Voters: 121

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June 27, 2023, 05:58:02 PM
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Champions League is always important and interesting to watch. The games there aren't easy obviously and next year will not be an easy challenge as usual.
Barcelona's performance under Xavi improved but they still need to prove how powerful the club is among the present one.
The only problem with managing Barcelona is how hard to get a cohesive team
In the next season it might be more difficult for every team in the Champions League because there are many rumors about changing players in each team and that will affect the strength of each team so that nothing will be easier to win the Champions League. Even though every team will fight to become a champion there, and Barcelona still needs to prove it by relying on the tactics used by Xavi next season because the previous season Barcelona still failed in the Champions League even though it managed to win in La Liga.

The Champions League will be more competitive next season as well. The top teams are trying to increase their strength. Last season in the Champions League we didn't see better performances from Barcelona, Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal. However, in the next season, these teams will try their best to perform well in the Champions League. But we are still not sure whether these teams will be able to perform consistently in the coming season. Despite having strong squads, many times teams fail to perform well consistently.

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June 27, 2023, 06:35:56 PM
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Barcelona's performance in the Champions League last season was very poor. Barcelona have performed poorly since the start of the season. But despite performing so poorly from the beginning, Barcelona finally fulfilled their dream of winning La Liga. Barcelona may do well in La Liga next season, but Barcelona may fail in Champions League this season as well. Because Barcelona has not yet failed to create the kind of team that should be created to do well in the Champions League. The players who played in the Champions League last season may also play in the Champions League for Barcelona this season. If they enter the field with the previous team, then Barcelona has no chance of doing well in the Champions League this season.
No, check out the first game Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona. I also watched it and I remember that Barcelona could have taken the lead during the game a couple of times but Lewandowski messed up chances that he normally would never miss. That gave Bayern the chance in turn to take the lead and they did with a bit of luck because Barcelona had four huge chances before them. I would even say that two out of those four chances were a 100% goal missed. A realistic result after 50 minutes would have been 5-2 for Barcelona. Then it was a header that gave Bayern the lead. That is how games can develop, but Barcelona did not play bad at all. They dominated in all respects except for goals scored.
I do not think that it was an intentional thing, like "oh he didn't play well against his old club" type of thing, he was just unlucky that day, it wasn't as much emotions as it was more about pressure because he was expected to carry the scoring load on a team he just got there and to be fair he wasn't used to it just yet.

Barcelona is still a great club and they will do fine, as long as they do not lose any big names, and they already got Ilkay, I feel like they do not have to really do anything else at all, they can just start the season all over again this season with last years team plus Ilkay and they would be good enough. Not really sure if that would be that hard or easy to handle but I bet that it is going to be a fine deal in the end.

The discussion was about Barcelona's Champions League season and whether they sucked from game 1 until the last game and I said that that wasn't the case. Their game against Bayern Munich was strong and on a good day they beat Bayern with three goals difference in that game. I wasn't blaming Lewandowski at all, there were several players who didn't convert their chances into goals and then Bayern had the lucky end on their side. That is how the games can go.

But in La Liga Lewandwoski started strong and then also had a weak period for quite some time. I think Barcelona was hoping for 30 goals from him in La Liga, but those times could be over for him.

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June 27, 2023, 07:29:28 PM
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I'm astonished because Luka Modric turned down a huge offer from a Saudi club, preferring to stay at Santiago Bernabeu and make an influence on the squad. According to statistics, he is the most experienced midfielder in the club, and he has good skills of lining up good passes for his teammates. Carlo Ancelotti has included him in his budget for the coming season. Modric is aged and may not deliver to the fans' expectations, but he will give it his all. He also has supportive colleagues, such Camavinga, Tchouameni, and the new youngster, Bellingham. There is no need to be concerned because he will be served on good terms.

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June 27, 2023, 07:55:49 PM
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This is actually a blessing for Barcelona because if we look at Gundogan's transfer, there is no need to spend money there, of course this is a blessing in itself.
On the other hand, they also immediately gave more space to their finances by spending Busquets, which indirectly reduced their salary expenses, especially considering Busquets' condition is one of the players with the biggest salaries for them. This is clearly an extraordinary advantage for Barcelona because apart from reducing their salary burden a little, on the other hand they also immediately got a replacement which is actually quite good because Gundogan is still one of the players with above average individual skills.

Barcelona is still struggling financially. And if Gundogan had to be bought by Barcelona, then maybe the Barcelona management would not be very interested in taking Gundogan into the team. However, although Barcelona are still weak financially, they will do their best to strengthen their squad. Because next season, Barcelona will not only play for the La Liga title, but the team will also want to do well in the Champions League. And so despite the financial crisis, Barcelona will be adding a number of talented players to their squad this season.
I think for the midfield it is important, Busquets has left and they will definitely be looking for a replacement to fill the gap that is missing fortunately they were able to get good form from Gundogan.
At the moment there are still several players who are still being rumored with Barcelona and the biggest one is still Bernardo Silva, who is actually still unclear.
There is also the name Rodriguez that they are trying to bring from Betis as another option for Busquets.

They don't seem to be very active and will be a little fascinated especially for attacking players especially by seeing some of their players who are still very reliable so they are trying to return with the existing squad while reducing some players who are not needed.

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June 27, 2023, 07:59:52 PM
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I'll go for Barcelona to successfully win and defend the La Liga next season, Xavi Hernandez did so well to win the league as well the players showed desired that they really wanted to win the trophy. Once again Barcelona to win, they have signed IIkay Gundogan, hope's would be for them to get a single pivot to replace Busquet and they be good to kick off for the Pre-season.

Real Madrid had the capacity last season, but they over relied on Karim Benzema and he was Injured during big games also failed them. They've signed some quality players but still not convinced they'll win the League. Vini deserves the new deal and the new jerseysfor Real Madrid, he's a top player.

I'm not sure what will happen next season. I'm sure, once in a while goes ups and downs will apply to these two giant Spanish teams. in a situation like that, the two teams were ready to compete with each other to widen the points gap from their rivals. but what is certain, at this time Don Carlo is deepening his squad to be more competitive in facing the competition next season. they have brought in a newcomer, not to mention the rumors about Mbappe. if that happens, Madrid will be a formidable opponent as well as having very sharp strikers.

Conversely, not much has been done by Barcelona with the financial crisis that hit them. fortunately, they were able to ensure Gundohan joined Barcelona. at least, this time Barcelona will be stronger in midfield with the double pivot they have. Unfortunately, this team has problems bringing in newcomers to deepen their squad. there is no choice, Xavi can only recruit cheap players. even then, if they get it. but at least, Barcelona can compete with Madrid in the league competition. and what is certain, these two teams will fight each other for the 2023/2024 season trophy.

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June 27, 2023, 08:01:36 PM
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Ilkay Gundogan is the perfect signing for Barcelona. He is a player who has good experience as a midfield general, which is exactly what Barcelona needed after Busquets moved to Inter Miami. It may be true that Ilkay Gundogan is no substitute for Busquets, but he has good midfield control.
Barcelona do need a midfield player to replace Busquets and Ilkay Gundogan fits perfectly in that position. His contribution to the club is undoubted and he has proven while at Manchester City, this is the right choice and Xavi knows very well the conditions Barcelona are facing so recruiting Ilkay Gundogan can be an alternative in maximizing their budget next season.

If possible, I hope Barcelona can also bring in other players this season to strengthen their defense. The right-back has changed a lot and they have to have good players there, not Araujo or Kounde. Xavi is aware of his team's current weaknesses, but with Barcelona short on cash it's clear he will have to adjust things accordingly. Barcelona's strategy in player transfers can be said to be good, but sometimes some old players are more easily injured so they can't always be relied on.
Finances make it impossible for Barcelona to get quality players with big salaries because it will fix the club and maybe they can take an alternative like they did with Ilkay Gundogan. So far they still need a right back so they can keep the defensive area more solid, but the attack line must also be optimized so that Lewandoski has the right partner next season.

Some of the considerations are fundamental when a player is injured because the existing substitutes cannot play more consistently because their performance is far different from the core players, so inevitably Barcelona must also recruit several other players.

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June 27, 2023, 08:03:00 PM
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To be honest, there is no easy team to win the Champions League trophy, competition is always present every year and a number of quality teams always enliven the title race in the competition. Barcelona is trying to build up its strength so that it can compete with other favorite teams, last season's failure was very painful for Barcelona, they felt humiliated after being eliminated in the group stage.
Next season Barcelona comes to the Champions League with the status of La Liga champions. There needs to be a change in the squad to go further while maintaining the opportunity to become champions. Xavi is trying to shape Barcelona to be even better than last season, the arrival of several quality players is expected to bring Barcelona back to win the most prestigious trophy.

It's true, Barcelona last season was not what I expected especially in the Champions League, Europa League and Copa Del Rey. Barcelona are good in La Liga and the Spanish Super Cup but many people hope they can improve from season to season. I hope Barcelona can be stronger next season when competing in the Champions League, but I doubt they can win the title when so many other teams are better than their squad depth.

In the Premier League there are Manchester City and Arsenal, besides Manchester United cannot be ignored either. Napoli, Milan and Inter are also good, while PSG and Bayern Munich are still the favourites. There are many strong teams in the Champions League, but Barcelona must try their best to return to their former glory. Difficult, that's for sure.

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June 27, 2023, 08:23:28 PM
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Champions League is always important and interesting to watch. The games there aren't easy obviously and next year will not be an easy challenge as usual.
Barcelona's performance under Xavi improved but they still need to prove how powerful the club is among the present one.
The only problem with managing Barcelona is how hard to get a cohesive team


I would say, the strongest teams in Europe play there
every year, teams in all leagues fight each other tirelessly to be able to enter the champions league
therefore it is a characteristic that makes it a high quality alloy

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I'm astonished because Luka Modric turned down a huge offer from a Saudi club, preferring to stay at Santiago Bernabeu and make an influence on the squad. According to statistics, he is the most experienced midfielder in the club, and he has good skills of lining up good passes for his teammates. Carlo Ancelotti has included him in his budget for the coming season. Modric is aged and may not deliver to the fans' expectations, but he will give it his all. He also has supportive colleagues, such Camavinga, Tchouameni, and the new youngster, Bellingham. There is no need to be concerned because he will be served on good terms.

Luka Modric is a monument of stability. We can say that he has done the best in the position he has played for years. There is also the Ballon D'or award. I think this is enough to prove to us how loyal he is to his job and how successful he is. I'm sure he will play great matches at Real Madrid next year as well.

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June 27, 2023, 08:38:26 PM
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Luka Modric is a monument of stability. We can say that he has done the best in the position he has played for years. There is also the Ballon D'or award. I think this is enough to prove to us how loyal he is to his job and how successful he is. I'm sure he will play great matches at Real Madrid next year as well.
But I realize that Luka Modric will not be as strong and stable as last season because he is 37 years old. Luka Modric has quality, but his age has taken a toll on his form. He tires quickly and Ancelotti can't force him to play full time all season. The same goes for Toni Kroos even though he is younger than Modric.

Aurélien Tchouameni and Jude Bellingham were brought in to keep Real Madrid's midfield solid in case Kroos and Modric don't do well next season, so Ancelotti will have good options going down the line. But these two midfielders can still be expected to make a good impact in the Madrid midfield.

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Champions League is always important and interesting to watch. The games there aren't easy obviously and next year will not be an easy challenge as usual.
Barcelona's performance under Xavi improved but they still need to prove how powerful the club is among the present one.
The only problem with managing Barcelona is how hard to get a cohesive team
Actually this is quite reasonable because the Champions League is a place where all the big clubs gather and apart from the popularity that can happen very quickly here, on the other hand this also talks about prestige where when all the big clubs meet then of course they want to prove who is the best among them.
Now for the Champions League, La Liga has 5 representatives after the extraordinary Sevilla being able to win the championship and getting a direct ticket for the next season's Champions League is one of the very good things for La Liga.
As for Barcelona they have to try more because in the last 2 seasons they had to settle for 3rd position and were only in the Europa League, of course this lowered their dignity a little in front of other clubs and they have to try to do better this season.

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June 27, 2023, 09:17:39 PM
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Barcelona wouldn't be expected to achieve a huge success like becoming the champions in the Champions League next season. Because the board must also be aware of the capacity of this team for now. Actually it is limited to Xavi's choice of strategies and I'm pretty sure he won't make changes. But these strategies should still be enough to see beyond the groups. Barcelona have been no different than an average participant in the Champions League for two years. It is time they put an end to this bad look.

No matter how challenging their group will be Barcelona can still finish it as the 2nd at worst thanks to their current strength. If they have a similar group to the previous season they should be doing better than that.

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June 27, 2023, 09:39:35 PM
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Barcelona do need a midfield player to replace Busquets and Ilkay Gundogan fits perfectly in that position. His contribution to the club is undoubted and he has proven while at Manchester City, this is the right choice and Xavi knows very well the conditions Barcelona are facing so recruiting Ilkay Gundogan can be an alternative in maximizing their budget next season.
Barcelona does not need to pay Manchester City for Ilkay Gundogan, but Barcelona only needs to pay the player's salary for the duration of his contract. I don't think Barcelona will offer much in terms of salary in Ilkay Gundogan's contract due to current financial constraints, but Ilkay Gundogan probably understands that quite well.

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Finances make it impossible for Barcelona to get quality players with big salaries because it will fix the club and maybe they can take an alternative like they did with Ilkay Gundogan. So far they still need a right back so they can keep the defensive area more solid, but the attack line must also be optimized so that Lewandoski has the right partner next season.

Some of the considerations are fundamental when a player is injured because the existing substitutes cannot play more consistently because their performance is far different from the core players, so inevitably Barcelona must also recruit several other players.
Barcelona's approach to player transfers is considered good as long as they have financial problems.
But Barcelona and its management also have to find a way to solve this financial problem quickly. They need good players instead of free transfer players, they don't have to be like Juventus as an old lady.

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It seems both players, Ansu Fati and Ferran Torres are going to leave Barcelona and they won't play there for the next season. They want to hire Iñigo Martínez but first Barcelona should sell these two players and have some empty spots for three two.
Fati is a young player and he could grow up in Barcelona but Xavi said he doesn't need this player, however, both players Fati and Torres, don't want to leave Barcelona and they are both trying to stay there which can make it harder for Barcelona.


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June 27, 2023, 10:55:58 PM
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It seems both players, Ansu Fati and Ferran Torres are going to leave Barcelona and they won't play there for the next season. They want to hire Iñigo Martínez but first Barcelona should sell these two players and have some empty spots for three two.
Fati is a young player and he could grow up in Barcelona but Xavi said he doesn't need this player, however, both players Fati and Torres, don't want to leave Barcelona and they are both trying to stay there which can make it harder for Barcelona.


https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2023/6/27/23775230/barcelona-very-disappointed-with-ansu-fati-and-ferran-torres-report
Ansu Fati is still quite young, I think he needs time to make a lot of big contributions to Barcelona. Even in terms of performance statistics last season I don't think it was too bad because he was able to score 7 goals in the 36 matches he played. I think Xavi and the Barcelona management should give Fati time to continue to develop in the next season. He is quite a talented player and I hope he is not let go in this season's transfer window. However, on the one hand, the financial crisis experienced by Barcelona, ​​which did not improve, made the decision to sell players the right strategy for them to earn money in balancing the club's finances. Apart from that i think if xavi tries to sell these two players of course xavi will be able to buy a few other players in this transfer window this season. For now, I see no offers coming to Barcelona regarding their initiative to sell their two strikers. However, all decisions made by Barcelona management are the best decisions and we believe they will get better quality players if they really want to sell Fati and Torres.

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June 27, 2023, 11:40:19 PM
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Ansu Fati is still quite young, I think he needs time to make a lot of big contributions to Barcelona. Even in terms of performance statistics last season I don't think it was too bad because he was able to score 7 goals in the 36 matches he played. I think Xavi and the Barcelona management should give Fati time to continue to develop in the next season. He is quite a talented player and I hope he is not let go in this season's transfer window. However, on the one hand, the financial crisis experienced by Barcelona, ​​which did not improve, made the decision to sell players the right strategy for them to earn money in balancing the club's finances. Apart from that i think if xavi tries to sell these two players of course xavi will be able to buy a few other players in this transfer window this season. For now, I see no offers coming to Barcelona regarding their initiative to sell their two strikers. However, all decisions made by Barcelona management are the best decisions and we believe they will get better quality players if they really want to sell Fati and Torres.
Yes, it would look especially funny now to sell Ansu Fati, who a few years ago was officially declared Messi's heir and even given his game number 10. I think it would still be rather imprudent on the part of Xavi and the Barcelona management not to try to give the player, especially his pupil, another chance. Fati is only 20 years old and he has not yet shown his full potential. Although I perfectly understand Xavi, who has already built a model of the game without the participation of Fati, but still I think it's a pleasant headache for any coach when you need to look for an opportunity to integrate a talented player into the game scheme of his team.
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June 28, 2023, 01:54:57 AM
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Luka Modric is a monument of stability. We can say that he has done the best in the position he has played for years. There is also the Ballon D'or award. I think this is enough to prove to us how loyal he is to his job and how successful he is. I'm sure he will play great matches at Real Madrid next year as well.
In the past two days, Luka Modric has also extended his contract by Real Madrid because Real Madrid still considers Luka Modric as a player who can help the team in the midfield so that Luka Modric will still be seen at Real Madrid next season. I also believe that Luka Modric can still give his best performance for Real Madrid next season by making the midfield more lively and also by providing the best passes to the players up front.

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June 28, 2023, 02:59:24 AM
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It seems both players, Ansu Fati and Ferran Torres are going to leave Barcelona and they won't play there for the next season. They want to hire Iñigo Martínez but first Barcelona should sell these two players and have some empty spots for three two.
Fati is a young player and he could grow up in Barcelona but Xavi said he doesn't need this player, however, both players Fati and Torres, don't want to leave Barcelona and they are both trying to stay there which can make it harder for Barcelona.


https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2023/6/27/23775230/barcelona-very-disappointed-with-ansu-fati-and-ferran-torres-report
The blaugrana are more interested in recruiting more players this season; all they need is to have their eyes on possible market players, but they can't make any additions unless they sell some of their current players. They attempted to place Ferran Torres and Ansu Fati on the market, but these players refuse to leave Camp Nou and wish to stay for another season. I believe things will be difficult for them, and they will never reach their full potential because they will be considered as outsiders and will continue to warm the bench. I know what Xavi Hernandez is capable of; any player who obstructs his signing will face significant challenges in league games, more of warming the bench.

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June 28, 2023, 03:05:15 AM
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The blaugrana are more interested in recruiting more players this season; all they need is to have their eyes on possible market players, but they can't make any additions unless they sell some of their current players.
Barcelona have very bad finance and they did bet in the last summer. They succeeded in the last season with a La Liga title but failed in Champions League and Europa League. Barcelona can not over leverage when their finance is already very bad. Even with current finance and leverage, they can collapse if they get terrible results in one to two seasons. If they like end in La Liga without a spot to join Champions League, their income will be reduced a lot and a nightmare will appear quickly.

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They attempted to place Ferran Torres and Ansu Fati on the market, but these players refuse to leave Camp Nou and wish to stay for another season. I believe things will be difficult for them, and they will never reach their full potential because they will be considered as outsiders and will continue to warm the bench. I know what Xavi Hernandez is capable of; any player who obstructs his signing will face significant challenges in league games, more of warming the bench.
Torres did not grow well after leaving Manchester City to join Barcelona and Ansu Fati might become another young player like Bojan Krkic, Giovani Dos Santos. Barcelona can consider to send Ansu Fati to another club with a loan and see how he plays in one season at a new club. If he plays well at a new environment, they can recall him back to the club and use him again.

I agree with you that transfer rumor will not become true if Barcelona can not sell some of their players, they will not be able to sign with new star players.

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• The net debt according to the criteria established by the LFP at 30 June 2022 is €608 million (€682 million as at 30 June 2021).
• At treasury management level, the Club closed the year with €378 million in available cash. The gross bank debt is €841 million,
an amount corresponding mainly to the different long-term debt issuances that the Club has, as well as the loan for the financing
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• Net equity started to recover, standing at a negative €353 million at the end of June (negative €451 million at 30 June 2021).
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June 28, 2023, 04:27:38 AM
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Barcelona do need a midfield player to replace Busquets and Ilkay Gundogan fits perfectly in that position. His contribution to the club is undoubted and he has proven while at Manchester City, this is the right choice and Xavi knows very well the conditions Barcelona are facing so recruiting Ilkay Gundogan can be an alternative in maximizing their budget next season.
Xavi is indeed smart in taking advantage of moments like this and he doesn't want to lose a great player like Gundogan who was the key to victory in several important matches for Manchester City before finally getting the treble winner last season. His arrival at Camp Nou will certainly be greeted with great enthusiasm by his colleagues, moreover there will be so much knowledge that other young players at Barcelona can absorb. Gundogan's job is to replace Bosquest and we don't need to doubt his quality because Gundogan is very experienced in winning titles in various competitions before.

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