[BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon

[velomare]

This man is fantastic (Trump). I trully appreciate him for being a political animal or manipulator.

I don't care what sites you give to me but what I can say is that today is the first day when Trump went in polls over the fucking retarted, why the fuck nomenee of the democratic party, Biden.

Really that 49.5% vs 49% is going to give Trump the victory. At this moment I would bet myself on Trump. He said on twitter that he has 50% over. Neah 49.5% is more than what he needs. Thats how much he got at the last elections. With an useless Biden who tries to send a message only after he checks the people reaction, just being there, not fast enough, not counting enough.. The only way the democrats will win is only if they have something really fucked about trump. And truth to be told... after the fact that each time u watch trump and u fact check and most are lies or missleadings... they really need something about negros or whatever to lose that 20% of the population and even so...30% of those will still vote for him as they are republicans..

Even if he's idiot, a shit, a nothing, a racist, a anti feminist a homophobic and so on, he is still better than Obama/Bush.... still seen him doing nothing... as the legislator changed after midterms..but still .. I think he is better at giving some big part of usa citizens a better hope than the others gave. I don't know if you unterstand my point.

I am hosting usa citizens from all the country (usa); even some democrats love him. What I see bad is the way the shity white supremacists or the league of black, those extremists and so many other groups support him.
As  I said before, I am happy he was elected. He is the face of USA - A bad apprentience show on TV only.

I found funny his last says on sars cov 2 that they won't join the world research because it is managed by OMS. He kinda stands on his ideas (even if those are bad as fuck)

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/w/TZ-yFnFyJ34

[nutildah]

As  I said before, I am happy he was elected. He is the face of USA - A bad apprentience show on TV only.

So what you're saying is that The Apprentice needs to be made into a feature-length film starring Donald Trump?

Let's talk about you for a second. Are you Railai? You don't need to answer that because I know that you are.

You didn't get a merit from suchmoon for praising their assured victory a mere week ago so now you are fishing for merits by going the opposite direction?

Just wondering why else you would venture out of your normal habitat of trying to do shady account sales deals.

[BADecker]

In addition, there is a grassroots recall operation in process, to recall WI Gov. Tony Evers for the lockdowns and for Kenosha.


Kenosha Residents RISE UP Against Democrat Violence! Massive SURGE In Support For Trump After Riots!


Kenosha Residents RISE UP Against Democrat Violence! Massive SURGE In Support For Trump After Riots!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1fPqfLGbHQ&ab_channel=LiberalHivemind

[velomare]

As  I said before, I am happy he was elected. He is the face of USA - A bad apprentience show on TV only.

So what you're saying is that The Apprentice needs to be made into a feature-length film starring Donald Trump?

Let's talk about you for a second. Are you Railai? You don't need to answer that because I know that you are.

You didn't get a merit from suchmoon for praising their assured victory a mere week ago so now you are fishing for merits by going the opposite direction?

Just wondering why else you would venture out of your normal habitat of trying to do shady account sales deals.

Cool man. I don't quite get what you mean, I don't need merits, the limits are lifted. Can send as many PM's I need and post each 28 seconds. No problem from my side.

I saw another post of you which is funny, I can assure you that I am not Railai, check the discord of each

[Gyfts]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

538 is giving Trump's election chances at a 29/100 which is basically one percentage point higher than he was in 2016. Seems kind of odd considering he is down in the polls by a larger margin than 2016. HuffPo had him at a 1 percent chance and the NYTs iirc had him at 90% last cycle.

Obviously not counting him out, as I did in 2016, but I think the only way Trump wins is if dems get a low turnout. He isn't winning enough independents to carry the election.

[suchmoon]

Trump spends $13 billion to buy some votes in Florida. Gotta love the hustle.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/914466896/trump-administration-announces-nearly-13-billion-in-aid-for-puerto-rico

To be fair, PR needed that money... THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO.

[JollyGood]

Michael Moore says Trump is on course for another win: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/29/michael-moore-donald-trump-repeat-2016-warning

[TwitchySeal]

So...rip RGB...and I thought things were intense this morning.

[suchmoon]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/act-blue-donations-record-rgb-death-flip-senate/

According to ActBlue's tracker, the platform brought in about $17 million between the hours of 9 p.m. ET, just after McConnell's statement, and midnight.

Crooked Media, the organization started by former top Obama staffers that is behind popular podcast Pod Save America, said Saturday that donations to their fundraiser "Get Mitch or Die Trying," which distributes donations between 13 Democrats targeting seats held by Republican senators, are significantly up.

Unfortunately McTurtle can still fill the position during the lame duck session... regardless how the election goes.

So...rip RGB...and I thought things were intense this morning.

RIP

She was a superstar.

[TwitchySeal]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/act-blue-donations-record-rgb-death-flip-senate/

According to ActBlue's tracker, the platform brought in about $17 million between the hours of 9 p.m. ET, just after McConnell's statement, and midnight.

Crooked Media, the organization started by former top Obama staffers that is behind popular podcast Pod Save America, said Saturday that donations to their fundraiser "Get Mitch or Die Trying," which distributes donations between 13 Democrats targeting seats held by Republican senators, are significantly up.

Unfortunately McTurtle can still fill the position during the lame duck session... regardless how the election goes.

Crooked Media has some really great podcasts (for those who don't mind listening to former Obama staffers).

[squatz1]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/act-blue-donations-record-rgb-death-flip-senate/

According to ActBlue's tracker, the platform brought in about $17 million between the hours of 9 p.m. ET, just after McConnell's statement, and midnight.

Crooked Media, the organization started by former top Obama staffers that is behind popular podcast Pod Save America, said Saturday that donations to their fundraiser "Get Mitch or Die Trying," which distributes donations between 13 Democrats targeting seats held by Republican senators, are significantly up.

Unfortunately McTurtle can still fill the position during the lame duck session... regardless how the election goes.

Crooked Media has some really great podcasts (for those who don't mind listening to former Obama staffers).

Ugh, not a fan of listening to Obama staffers view on stuff. Are those some of the guys who were in marketing (like, creating campaign ads) or am I thinking of someone else?

Only somewhat politically related podcast I've ever liked on Spotify is Freakonomics radio. But that's just cause they delve into political topics every so often alongside a ton of other stuff.

But onto the RBG craze news. Yes, even if the Republicans lose control of the Presidency / the Senate, they're going to pick someone after the lame duck (or before it, if they rush it through right now) I think political donors are much happier to have a SC that is rightward for the next few decades compared to having something short term.

[eddie13]

Hope we can get one more good scotus pick..
It is the main reason real conservatives vote trump..

[TwitchySeal]

Hope we can get one more good scotus pick..
It is the main reason real conservatives vote trump..

So what do you think will happen if he lets one get confirmed before the election?

Was just thinking about it...seems like his best play is to sabotage whoever he nominates and blame the democrats.  

After RGBs seat, it's unlikely there will be another opening in the next decade let alone next 4 years. Think about it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Trump letting a confirmation happen or seem inevitable before election day seems like it would be a big mistake.

[Gyfts]

Hope we can get one more good scotus pick..
It is the main reason real conservatives vote trump..

So what do you think will happen if he lets one get confirmed before the election?

Was just thinking about it...seems like his best play is to sabotage whoever he nominates and blame the democrats.  

After RGBs seat, it's unlikely there will be another opening in the next decade let alone next 4 years. Think about it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Trump letting a confirmation happen or seem inevitable before election day seems like it would be a big mistake.

Harry Reid reversed the filibuster rule, so there isn't anything democrats can do to stop this nomination. They can take the Kavanaugh approach and muddy the waters, but I guarantee you that Trump will nominate a woman which makes it harder to launch attacks on character.

[JollyGood]

What happens if his pick turns out to say things against him in the run-up to the Presidential election? Will it court negative press for Trump and will it impact the outcome of the election?

Hope we can get one more good scotus pick..
It is the main reason real conservatives vote trump..

[eddie13]

Hope we can get one more good scotus pick..
It is the main reason real conservatives vote trump..

So what do you think will happen if he lets one get confirmed before the election?

Was just thinking about it...seems like his best play is to sabotage whoever he nominates and blame the democrats.  

After RGBs seat, it's unlikely there will be another opening in the next decade let alone next 4 years. Think about it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Trump letting a confirmation happen or seem inevitable before election day seems like it would be a big mistake.

What? No...
SCOTUS picks are more important than him winning the election..
If the main reason for electing him is to install good conservative judges, why would I want him to delay appointing a judge?

He should most definitely slam one through while he can, Incase he loses in November..
SCOTUS picks should not be some pawn to be toyed with to try to gain a little edge in an election..

If he can get his judge in before the election, we will be happy that he did what we put him in there to do..
He has been doing a quite fine job with this thus far.. He has been a pretty darn good president from my view..

3 good judges, better than expected...
Damn good thing we elected Trump in 2016 and not Clinton..

I still think trump is going to win regardless of any SCOTUS games you may like for him to play..
I saw Theymoses post on this too, and I would rather have the pick than one more or less little edge for him in the election..

That’s like risking losing your kids in a divorce to argue about who gets to keep the cat..

[squatz1]

Hope we can get one more good scotus pick..
It is the main reason real conservatives vote trump..

So what do you think will happen if he lets one get confirmed before the election?

Was just thinking about it...seems like his best play is to sabotage whoever he nominates and blame the democrats.  

After RGBs seat, it's unlikely there will be another opening in the next decade let alone next 4 years. Think about it.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Trump letting a confirmation happen or seem inevitable before election day seems like it would be a big mistake.

Hm, I don't really understand what exactly you're saying here? The only way Trump could openly sabotage his own nominee is IF he was to get a few more defectors from within the GOP, but even with doing that, it would be TOTALLY on the GOP.

The GOP controls the Senate which means they'd be in full control of what is going on here. This won't originate in the House, so Trump and the GOP can't shift the blame this time. They're the ones that are driving the car, and they're in control of if this will hit the floor before election day. I imagine this is going to be a tiebreaker that Pence is the one to break, the people that will vote no will be the that are up for tough reelections in areas that have the potential to flip blue.

Even then, I think the GOP will be happy to lose control of the Senate to keep control of the SC for a few decades.

[suchmoon]

Even then, I think the GOP will be happy to lose control of the Senate to keep control of the SC for a few decades.

Not if Democrats pack the court. Which I think is a dumb idea. Pretty much guaranteed to backfire spectacularly. Which makes it pretty much certain to be attempted.

[squatz1]

Even then, I think the GOP will be happy to lose control of the Senate to keep control of the SC for a few decades.

Not if Democrats pack the court. Which I think is a dumb idea. Pretty much guaranteed to backfire spectacularly. Which makes it pretty much certain to be attempted.

LOL

Court packing ends in only one way in my opinion:

1. Both sides continue to court pack until at some point we notice how dumb we are and then reform the SC in some way. Either setting an arbitrarily limit of 9 on the court, and at that point letting each side pick 4 (4 from GOP, 4 from DNC, and 1 moderate chief justice) OR we actually reform the court to include some sort of shifting federal appeals court members or something like that.

The 'both sides court packing' could go on for awhile.

Very dumb idea, could happen, but I HIGHLY doubt it.

[eddie13]

I just spent 2 days downtown Grand Rapids and yeah..
The world is insane, Biden signs everywhere, city people are off their rocker crazy, the hospitals down there treat you like you are entering restricted military space or some shit..
The people are so conditioned to obey authority it’s scary..

Imma stay innawods..

Took grandpa to have a minor surgery, he had to stop to pee..
Stop at gas station and let him go in alone, I didn’t hear this till later..
Woman in there stopped him from using the bathroom because the bathrooms were “closed for Covid”..
She says she’s sorry, and he says “I’m sorry too because if you don’t let me in there I’m going to piss right here in the floor”..
She didn’t let him in the bathroom, poor old man couldn’t hold it and pissed his pants literally on the floor just like he said..

I knew we had to go buy him new pants, but didn’t find out till the next day that they refused to let him in the bathroom because Covid..

Autocorrect seems to be forcing me to capitalize Covid so I’m going to have to go back to saying china virus to spit it..