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[South Park]

edit; could the reason for AB flipping mid game be something more practical...money and more specifically contract incentives:


source: https://twitter.com/JesseCo17447249/status/1477742998553255942

According to the reports I have been hearing the coaches wanted AB on the field, it was AB the one that did not wanted to be there as according to himself he was not healthy enough to be there, so he was fired on the spot during the game and that is when we saw his meltdown.

Also we need to remember that many teams during the last game of the season give the chance to the players that are close to reach a particular incentive to go for it, and we know the Bucs is one of those teams as they did exactly that last year with AB and other players.

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[DireWolfM14]

Anyways, i'm messing around with the NFL Playoff Machine, and we could get some really juicy wild-card matchups to kick off the playoffs. If nothing out of the ordinary happens in Week 18, (AFC) Patriots at Buffalo and (NFC) Cardinals at Dallas. Titans and Green Bay are almost certain to earn first-round byes, especially significant for TEN with Derrick Henry on the verge of returning, i've read he's been training in full with no setbacks. Also, next week's game between the Chargers and the Raiders will be a direct match for an AFC wildcard spot.

Funny that the NFL site doesn't specify that the Packers got the first seed, I don't see how they could not get the it.  I was under the impression that they clinched it last night with the win over the Vikings.  According google, the Packers have clinched the conference.   Even if they lose next weekend, and both the Bucs and the Rams win, the Packers still win the three-way tie due to a better record against common opponents.  If only one of the others, ie Bucs or Rams win, the Packers get it based on head to head match-ups, which the Packers won against both of those teams.

I have personally begun having these dizzy spells and anxiety. I suspected something was wrong with my heart. I went to the doctor and I was told my heart is healthy. I will be going to another doctor to check if I have vertigo. If nothing is wrong, I might go to a psychiatrist hehehehe.

Glad to hear your heart is okay.  I hope it's nothing serious; it could be nothing more than an ear infection which is common this time of year.  Have the doctor check your ears, and take it easy on salty foods.

According to the reports I have been hearing the coaches wanted AB on the field, it was AB the one that did not wanted to be there as according to himself he was not healthy enough to be there, so he was fired on the spot during the game and that is when we saw his meltdown.

That's an interesting interpretation.  I would have guessed the exact opposite was happening, but a lot things about that whole episode were unprecedented.  The NFL likes to keep the drama shrouded in mystery, but I imagine we'll get the whole story in due time.

[bbc.reporter]

It appears that I will be finishing our league in the bottomest of the bottom hehehe. I was honestly not playing anymore as proven that I have not been changing my line up or going to the waiver wire to trade in better players.

In any case, it was fun for my first time and a good learning experience. I cannot wait for the next season’s draft hehe! In 7 months?

[Hueristic]

Arians also spoke to Peter King, telling the Football Morning in America author that Brown “had that look in his eye that I haven’t seen for a long time.”

The major hold up for the Buccaneers now: Brown may have complained of an ankle injury, although Arians denied that happened. An injury complaint might work against the Buccaneers if Brown files a grievance against the team.

“It’s pretty obvious what happened. He left the field and that was it,” Arians said on Monday before later adding, “I wish him well. I hope if he needs help, (he) gets some. It’s very hard. I do care about him.”

[suchmoon]

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I think that's bullshit, the whole "we care about him but it's his fault" spiel. They knew who he was when they hired him. They enabled his antics. I mean come on, the vaccination card nonsense - he should have been canned right there.

[Hueristic]

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I think that's bullshit, the whole "we care about him but it's his fault" spiel. They knew who he was when they hired him. They enabled his antics. I mean come on, the vaccination card nonsense - he should have been canned right there.

My thought on this is that he would have been but he got lucky when Godwin got wrecked to his benefit.

[South Park]

It appears that I will be finishing our league in the bottomest of the bottom hehehe. I was honestly not playing anymore as proven that I have not been changing my line up or going to the waiver wire to trade in better players.

In any case, it was fun for my first time and a good learning experience. I cannot wait for the next season’s draft hehe! In 7 months?

In fact you are ahead on our match so you could actually beat me without lifting a finger hehe, still I will say that FF was more fun than I thought so I am looking forward to the next season as well.

I think that's bullshit, the whole "we care about him but it's his fault" spiel. They knew who he was when they hired him. They enabled his antics. I mean come on, the vaccination card nonsense - he should have been canned right there.

And you are right but they are trying to save face by saying that, and personally that is what bothers me as well, after all we know of all the free agents the Bucs signed last year to try to buy a Lombardy, and they succeeded, why they cannot admit they tried to do the same this year and the bomb known as AB simply exploded on their faces?

[DireWolfM14]

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I think that's bullshit, the whole "we care about him but it's his fault" spiel. They knew who he was when they hired him. They enabled his antics. I mean come on, the vaccination card nonsense - he should have been canned right there.

Meh, antics of all sort used to be fairly standard for football players, maybe not on-field antics but certainly off-field antics that made you question wonder whether they're sociopaths.  Keeping immoral or unethical players on rosters is par for the course for most football teams.  In the old days, domestic violence, drunk driving, tragic auto accidents, none of that shit would matter.  The coaches would just say stupid shit like "we're not going to rush to judgment..."  It's only recently that the NFL and most teams have started treating those incenses with more care.

Obviously this is a different scenario.  Honestly I don't see anyone coming out of this fiasco with their innocence intact.

[wheelz1200]

It appears that I will be finishing our league in the bottomest of the bottom hehehe. I was honestly not playing anymore as proven that I have not been changing my line up or going to the waiver wire to trade in better players.

In any case, it was fun for my first time and a good learning experience. I cannot wait for the next season’s draft hehe! In 7 months?

It takes a coue of times to get some of the nuances down.  The draft is key.  You can't win though on just a solid draft.  Need to be active all year checking out the waiver wire, looking at possible trades.  Know who to start and sit during certain games, etc.  Either way first time or 100th time there still is luck that needs to be on your side.  Especially with this covid thingy

[bbc.reporter]

It appears that I will be finishing our league in the bottomest of the bottom hehehe. I was honestly not playing anymore as proven that I have not been changing my line up or going to the waiver wire to trade in better players.

In any case, it was fun for my first time and a good learning experience. I cannot wait for the next season’s draft hehe! In 7 months?

In fact you are ahead on our match so you could actually beat me without lifting a finger hehe, still I will say that FF was more fun than I thought so I am looking forward to the next season as well.

It appears I am leading hehehe. I did not check ESPN until I read your reply. I also stopped watching the game minutes after the 3rd quarter began. I did not see Najee Harris’ touchdown. My Najeeee hehehe.

Next game week, I shall play Ekeler with Najee! It will be the Raiders vs. the Chargers, the winner will go to the playoff, the loser will be out.

@wheelz1200. Agreed! However, I certainly would have more points if I did a better draft. I want it to be the new season already!

In any case, I read this article published on Decrypt. It appears FTX and crypto.com will be advertising during the superbowl hehe. They might be doing this to attract the sportsbettors to gamble in the cryptospace for 2022. Which might also be the beginning of the bear market hehehe.



Crypto.com and FTX have already announced they will air ads during this year's Super Bowl on February 13. Companies are shelling out up to $6.5 million for 30 seconds of air time. By contrast, a typical 30-second spot for a regular season game would go for between $500,000 and $1 million.

Advertising to sports fans has several advantages in addition to the numbers above, according to sports marketing professor and researcher Kirk Wakefield. First, there's evidence that sports fans are more receptive to ads. A YouGov poll found that they are more likely to enjoy watching ads with favorite celebrities and use advertising in their calculus of what products to buy. Moreover, that ad money can go even further when advertisers act as team sponsors.

Source https://decrypt.co/89680/good-shill-hunting-why-matt-damon-crypto-com-ad-is-trending

[morvillz7z]

I've compiled a list of player contract incentives, players close to reaching personal milestones and/or breaking league records heading into Week 18. Thought it might be helpful if you are looking to bet on something over the weekend. I like J.Taylor for 2 tuddies a 100 yards and Colts to cover the spread. Gronk is expected to have a busy day.    There is more in the links down below, i've handpicked some of those that i like the most. Kinda tricky with league records being broken and players having an extra gameweek.

Player Contract Incentives

Rob Gronkowski: Gronk needs 7 catches, 85 yards, & 3 TDs in Week 18. 55 Catches: $500k; 750 Yards: $500k; 9 TD: $500k

Stefon Diggs: Six more catches would add $750,000

Chris Jones: one sack away from $1.25 million

A.J. Green: extra $250,000 if he reaches 900 yards (825); $250,000 if he hits 60 catches (50)

Dante Fowler Jr: half-sack away from $1 million; 2 and a half-sacks away from $2 million

Marvin Jones Jr. : sitting at 66 catches, needs four receptions for $500,000 and 14 receptions for $1 million.

Records and milestones

Ja’Marr Chase needs 45 yards to break the single-season rookie record (Bill Groman’s 1,473 from 1960).

Ezekiel Elliott is just 85 rushing yards shy of 1,000.

Marquise Brown is 19 yards away from reaching 1,000 yards for the first time in his career.

Jonathan Taylor is 266 yards shy of 2,000 rushing and 2 TDs shy of 20 total rushing TDs. JT went for 30/253/2 against the Jags’ in Week 17 last year.

Cooper Kupp is 136 yards shy of breaking Calvin Johnson’s all-time yardage record and needs 171 yards to reach 2,000 – which is absurd. Kupp also needs 12 receptions to break Michael Thomas’ single-season receptions record of 149 set in 2019.

Matthew Stafford needs 352 passing yards to reach 5,000 yards for the second time in his career, and he needs two TD passes to reach 40.

Elijah Mitchell is 122 rushing yards shy of 1,000.

George Kittle needs 100 receiving yards to reach 1,000 yards for the season.

Christian Kirk is 61 yards away from 1,000 yards for the first time in his career.

Austin Ekeler is 153 yards away from 1,000 rushing.

Justin Herbert is 369 yards away from 5,000 passing.

Derek Carr is 382 yards away from 5,000 passing.

Mike Evans needs 54 yards to extend his NFL record for the most seasons with 1000 receiving yards to open a career to eight straight seasons.

Javonte Williams is 143 rushing yards shy of 1,000.

Kyle Pitts needs 59 yards to break the all-time rookie record for a tight end.

Jaylen Waddle needs three catches to break Anquan Boldin’s rookie record of 101 catches.

DK Metcalf is 91 yards shy of 1,000.

Terry McLaurin is only 40 yards shy of 1,000 receiving yards

Antonio Gibson needs 109 rushing yards to reach 1,000 yards.

Darnell Mooney is 71 yards away from hitting 1,000 yards for the first time in his career.

sources:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10022972-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-more-nfl-contract-performance-incentives-ahead-of-week-18
https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1478748221790900226
https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1478750619087290377
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-stefon-diggs-chris-jones/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chiefs-chris-jones-has-1-25-million-on-the-line-in-week-18-vs-broncos-and-heres-why/
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33007044/nfl-week-18-incentives-watch-buccaneers-tom-brady-packers-aaron-rodgers-more-cash-in
https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/week-18-cheat-sheet

[DireWolfM14]

It appears that I will be finishing our league in the bottomest of the bottom hehehe. I was honestly not playing anymore as proven that I have not been changing my line up or going to the waiver wire to trade in better players.

In any case, it was fun for my first time and a good learning experience. I cannot wait for the next season’s draft hehe! In 7 months?

It takes a coue of times to get some of the nuances down.  The draft is key.  You can't win though on just a solid draft.  Need to be active all year checking out the waiver wire, looking at possible trades.  Know who to start and sit during certain games, etc.  Either way first time or 100th time there still is luck that needs to be on your side.  Especially with this covid thingy

It's always better to be lucky than good (that's my strategy this weekend, lol.)  I think luck plays a huge part in it, but it's impossible to quantify.  If I had been matched up with suchmoon in the simi finals I would have lost.

If you think of FF as a way to measure your knowledge of football, I think you'll be disappointed.  I think it has little do with knowledge of the game.  A significant portion of success in FF is keeping yourself appraised of the players on your squad, and their respective opponents each week.  It's an interactive way to stay appraised of other teams around the league, and adds some interest in their performances.  Something to complement following your favorite/local team.  If you find that enjoyable, then you're a winner regardless of the outcome.

[bbc.reporter]

I've compiled a list of player contract incentives, players close to reaching personal milestones and/or breaking league records heading into Week 18. Thought it might be helpful if you are looking to bet on something over the weekend. I like J.Taylor for 2 tuddies a 100 yards and Colts to cover the spread. Gronk is expected to have a busy day.    There is more in the links down below, i've handpicked some of those that i like the most. Kinda tricky with league records being broken and players having an extra gameweek.

Player Contract Incentives

Rob Gronkowski: Gronk needs 7 catches, 85 yards, & 3 TDs in Week 18. 55 Catches: $500k; 750 Yards: $500k; 9 TD: $500k

Stefon Diggs: Six more catches would add $750,000

Chris Jones: one sack away from $1.25 million

A.J. Green: extra $250,000 if he reaches 900 yards (825); $250,000 if he hits 60 catches (50)

Dante Fowler Jr: half-sack away from $1 million; 2 and a half-sacks away from $2 million

Marvin Jones Jr. : sitting at 66 catches, needs four receptions for $500,000 and 14 receptions for $1 million.

Records and milestones

Ja’Marr Chase needs 45 yards to break the single-season rookie record (Bill Groman’s 1,473 from 1960).

Ezekiel Elliott is just 85 rushing yards shy of 1,000.

Marquise Brown is 19 yards away from reaching 1,000 yards for the first time in his career.

Jonathan Taylor is 266 yards shy of 2,000 rushing and 2 TDs shy of 20 total rushing TDs. JT went for 30/253/2 against the Jags’ in Week 17 last year.

Cooper Kupp is 136 yards shy of breaking Calvin Johnson’s all-time yardage record and needs 171 yards to reach 2,000 – which is absurd. Kupp also needs 12 receptions to break Michael Thomas’ single-season receptions record of 149 set in 2019.

Matthew Stafford needs 352 passing yards to reach 5,000 yards for the second time in his career, and he needs two TD passes to reach 40.

Elijah Mitchell is 122 rushing yards shy of 1,000.

George Kittle needs 100 receiving yards to reach 1,000 yards for the season.

Christian Kirk is 61 yards away from 1,000 yards for the first time in his career.

Austin Ekeler is 153 yards away from 1,000 rushing.

Justin Herbert is 369 yards away from 5,000 passing.

Derek Carr is 382 yards away from 5,000 passing.

Mike Evans needs 54 yards to extend his NFL record for the most seasons with 1000 receiving yards to open a career to eight straight seasons.

Javonte Williams is 143 rushing yards shy of 1,000.

Kyle Pitts needs 59 yards to break the all-time rookie record for a tight end.

Jaylen Waddle needs three catches to break Anquan Boldin’s rookie record of 101 catches.

DK Metcalf is 91 yards shy of 1,000.

Terry McLaurin is only 40 yards shy of 1,000 receiving yards

Antonio Gibson needs 109 rushing yards to reach 1,000 yards.

Darnell Mooney is 71 yards away from hitting 1,000 yards for the first time in his career.

sources:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10022972-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-more-nfl-contract-performance-incentives-ahead-of-week-18
https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1478748221790900226
https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1478750619087290377
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-stefon-diggs-chris-jones/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chiefs-chris-jones-has-1-25-million-on-the-line-in-week-18-vs-broncos-and-heres-why/
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33007044/nfl-week-18-incentives-watch-buccaneers-tom-brady-packers-aaron-rodgers-more-cash-in
https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/week-18-cheat-sheet

I wish we can find the information for player incentives during the beginning of next season hehe. This will be very useful for betting on player props which appear to be more winnable than the spread and betting on over or under the total scores.

Also, why is the Ravens 1.52 and the Steelers 2.55. I thought Lamar Jackson will not play?

In any case, NFL experts, will Ben Roethlisberger make over 225.5 passing yards?

[South Park]

The Colts are really dropping the ball, the Jaguars have a lead of 23-3 on the third quarter on a game that is decisive for them, are they missing a bunch of players or something? Because even if the Colts are not a super team or anything like that losing against the Jaguars is without a doubt unexpected, now if the Colts lose and the Steelers lose as well, as it is the case at the moment, then the Raiders are in the playoffs, leaving the Chargers and the Ravens to fight for the last spot available.

[Hueristic]

The Colts are really dropping the ball, the Jaguars have a lead of 23-3 on the third quarter on a game that is decisive for them, are they missing a bunch of players or something?

Thats cause I played Wentz!
I cursed them!

[wheelz1200]

The Colts are really dropping the ball, the Jaguars have a lead of 23-3 on the third quarter on a game that is decisive for them, are they missing a bunch of players or something? Because even if the Colts are not a super team or anything like that losing against the Jaguars is without a doubt unexpected, now if the Colts lose and the Steelers lose as well, as it is the case at the moment, then the Raiders are in the playoffs, leaving the Chargers and the Ravens to fight for the last spot available.

Yeah that definitely makes today's later games interesting.  The indy loss keeps Pitt or Baltimore hopes alive whoever wins that game.  Who figured jags gonna beat indy with a playoff spot on the line and Detroit looking to upset green Bay.  Wierd way to end the season for sure.

[Hueristic]

The Colts are really dropping the ball, the Jaguars have a lead of 23-3 on the third quarter on a game that is decisive for them, are they missing a bunch of players or something? Because even if the Colts are not a super team or anything like that losing against the Jaguars is without a doubt unexpected, now if the Colts lose and the Steelers lose as well, as it is the case at the moment, then the Raiders are in the playoffs, leaving the Chargers and the Ravens to fight for the last spot available.

Yeah that definitely makes today's later games interesting.  The indy loss keeps Pitt or Baltimore hopes alive whoever wins that game.  Who figured jags gonna beat indy with a playoff spot on the line and Detroit looking to upset green Bay.  Wierd way to end the season for sure.

Well to be fair Greenbay sat most their players but No-one Saw the Jags Beating the snail snot out of the colts!

[wheelz1200]

The Colts are really dropping the ball, the Jaguars have a lead of 23-3 on the third quarter on a game that is decisive for them, are they missing a bunch of players or something? Because even if the Colts are not a super team or anything like that losing against the Jaguars is without a doubt unexpected, now if the Colts lose and the Steelers lose as well, as it is the case at the moment, then the Raiders are in the playoffs, leaving the Chargers and the Ravens to fight for the last spot available.

Yeah that definitely makes today's later games interesting.  The indy loss keeps Pitt or Baltimore hopes alive whoever wins that game.  Who figured jags gonna beat indy with a playoff spot on the line and Detroit looking to upset green Bay.  Wierd way to end the season for sure.

Well to be fair Greenbay sat most their players but No-one Saw the Jags Beating the snail snot out of the colts!

Yeah true and good on Detroit for coming out to win.  They could have layer it down and got the number 1 pick in the draft not that there is much of a difference between 1 and 2 this year.  But yeah the jags I thought were dead money.  Indy completely collapsed.  They can still get in but they need some help from other teams.

[morvillz7z]

The Chargers and Raiders tie is in play, god i wish to see both teams kneel for 0-0.  

I'm glad the Colts are out of the playoffs, they cost me a ship in the other forum league last week with mediocre fantasy performance, and with that loss today some sizeable bets. Jeez. I wish i've seen that stat before the game:

source: https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1480285530038362121

Jaguars at home since 2015:

vs Colts:                       7-0
vs everyone else:       15-35

edit;

I was wondering what would have happened if the Steelers / Ravens tied?

A tie would have eliminated both the Steelers and the Ravens, at least that's what Scott Hanson on NFL Redzone said during the game. Ben had to throw (and completed to Ray-Ray McCloud) on 4th and long with 2mins to go, they had no other option.

[Hueristic]

I'm glad the Colts are out of the playoffs, they cost me a ship in the other forum league last week with mediocre fantasy performance, and with that loss today some sizeable bets. Jeez. I wish i've seen that stat before the game:

source: https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1480285530038362121

Jaguars at home since 2015:

vs Colts:                       7-0
vs everyone else:       15-35

Lol, w00ps!

The Chargers and Raiders tie is in play, god i wish to see both teams kneel for 0-0. 

I was wondering what would have happened if the Steelers / Ravens tied?