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December 29, 2023, 09:05:24 PM
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I started to think the only teams supported by the 'sheiks' could have better players and get better results and that's not just about the French League but in all the leagues, in the world because it seems sheiks can invest more money than other people from all over in the world and that's why the teams like PSG got better results in the French league than all other teams.
But the fact about these Arab owners inthey usually don't know how to spend the money and they usually fail to use their money to bring success to their teams, lie we saw in PSG they could never achieve anything in the tournaments like the Champions League.


But this is not the whole truth. Winning the Champions League isn't easy and just look how long it took Manchester City to finally win the Champions League. Pep Guardiola has been the coach since 2016 and it took them seven attempts to finally win it. There is money needed, luck needed, high quality players needed and so on and so forth. PSG did achieve something on the domestic level and they made it into the final once as well. But they never had a coach who understood how to develop a team for many years.

The sheikhs don't necessarily have to understand a lot about football as they can hire their managers, which is what they do. But money can make a big difference if all the rest is taken care of, too. That is why it worked for Manchester City and they could establish themselves as the best team in the Premier League despite all the fierce competition.

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December 29, 2023, 09:54:28 PM
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If the perspective of club owners is purely business, then we will never see Ligue 1 more advanced than it is today. Only a few fans are interested in watching their matches, of course gradually they will continue to be left behind in many ways, including the lack of star players who want to have a career in Ligue 1.
Most star players only play for one club and here it is clearly PSG. I don't think other teams like Marseille, Monaco, Lens or Nice have other star names and the rest is down to the talented players they have at the club. However, the financial strength of the 4 teams mentioned above is also not comparable to PSG.

PSG is a business club and it's all because of ownership from Middle Easterners so whatever they want can always be achieved. Previously they had brought in Neymar, Mbappe and Messi (now only Mbappe remains) and the policies they implemented in selecting star players always succeeded in making more money.
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December 29, 2023, 09:59:51 PM
Last edit: December 29, 2023, 10:10:25 PM by Rengga Jati
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Yes, in the January transfer window, PSG must be able to make the most of this moment in order to get the players they are targeting who are compatible with PSG and are able to strengthen PSG in their position. .

That's what PSG management, or Luis Enrique, should have done. the point is, Enrique still needs some newcomers. in particular, as he wanted an established attacking midfielder. also, considering that the PSG squad is not very strong at the moment in the Champions League. in the end, as we often see, Enrique had to repeatedly rotate and change his system. in other words, currently Enrique is using a system that is not the one he usually uses or the one he often used when he was a coach at his previous club.
PSG has been rumored to be targeting several talented players in the transfer market which will soon open. So this will have an impact on their performance in the future. Some of them are Lucas Beraldo, a young defender who is quite potential and talented at the moment. There is also Moscardo, even Casemiro is also rumored. What is true is, as you said, that PSG needs several new, more reliable players in each line. PSG may currently be quite strong on the front line, but not in other lines. Because it will continue to be a problem if they don't find their strength again this season to compete in a bigger and more prestigious league, namely the UCL.

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December 29, 2023, 10:06:11 PM
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If the perspective of club owners is purely business, then we will never see Ligue 1 more advanced than it is today. Only a few fans are interested in watching their matches, of course gradually they will continue to be left behind in many ways, including the lack of star players who want to have a career in Ligue 1.
Most star players only play for one club and here it is clearly PSG. I don't think other teams like Marseille, Monaco, Lens or Nice have other star names and the rest is down to the talented players they have at the club. However, the financial strength of the 4 teams mentioned above is also not comparable to PSG.

PSG is a business club and it's all because of ownership from Middle Easterners so whatever they want can always be achieved. Previously they had brought in Neymar, Mbappe and Messi (now only Mbappe remains) and the policies they implemented in selecting star players always succeeded in making more money.

Funding to recruit new players will not be an obstacle for PSG because they have strong financial support from their owners. PSG moved quickly in the January 2024 transfer market. Les Parisiens attracted two talented players from Brazil. Lucas Beraldo and Gabriel Moscardo are PSG's new winter signings. Previously, according to foreign sports media reports, PSG had scheduled medical tests for Sao Paulo defender Beraldo and Corinthians midfielder Moscardo. Apart from that, both players are expected to arrive in France this week.
Not surprisingly, PSG recruited Lucas Beraldo and Gabriel Moscardo to add strength in defense and midfield. With this move, PSG certainly hopes to provide a solution for the back and midfield. So you have a balanced squad. As is known, Kimpembe and Nuno Mendes suffered injuries and were absent until the end of the season.
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December 29, 2023, 10:14:45 PM
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PSG has been rumored to be targeting several talented players in the transfer market which will soon open. So this will have an impact on their performance in the future. PSG may be quite strong in the front line at the moment but not in other lines.
It's very possible PSG gets to buy talented young players who can help.the team achieve that which they are aiming to achieve because PSG has got the financial capabilities so it wouldn't really pose so much of a challenge to them.as it would be with other small teams in the Ligue 1 this season.

I have expected PSG to have done this which they are about to do because the team needs some vibrant player's to help their striking force but then they currently still have the best squad dept amongst others in France so far so I think even if they don't buy players, they can still work on their current players and be able to use them achieve greatly, except for the sake of winning the champions league, PSG don't need additional help for them to be able to win the Ligue 1 title this season.

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December 29, 2023, 10:30:29 PM
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PSG has been rumored to be targeting several talented players in the transfer market which will soon open. So this will have an impact on their performance in the future. Some of them are Lucas Beraldo, a young defender who is quite potential and talented at the moment. There is also Moscardo, even Casemiro is also rumored. What is true is, as you said, that PSG needs several new, more reliable players in each line. PSG may currently be quite strong on the front line, but not in other lines.
I love the way the PSG team management is handling the club because with there target and planning they have for PSG the club will be so strong that every other team will be scared of them whenever they meet them, because just like you said if they eventually sign more players during the transfer window it will greatly enhance PSG performance in such a way that all there leagues next season will be very easy for them. And also I believe that there are more good things installed for PSG by there management because with the kind of money the club has they will make sure they eradicate any chances that will make PSG to lose any matches from next season.

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December 29, 2023, 11:08:40 PM
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PSG has been rumored to be targeting several talented players in the transfer market which will soon open. So this will have an impact on their performance in the future. PSG may be quite strong in the front line at the moment but not in other lines.
It's very possible PSG gets to buy talented young players who can help.the team achieve that which they are aiming to achieve because PSG has got the financial capabilities so it wouldn't really pose so much of a challenge to them.as it would be with other small teams in the Ligue 1 this season.

I have expected PSG to have done this which they are about to do because the team needs some vibrant player's to help their striking force but then they currently still have the best squad dept amongst others in France so far so I think even if they don't buy players, they can still work on their current players and be able to use them achieve greatly, except for the sake of winning the champions league, PSG don't need additional help for them to be able to win the Ligue 1 title this season.

A talented young player is not all and what they need, they need some experienced players added with the younger players just exactly what is done with Real Madrid having old players and people like Luka Modric and Toni Kroos to help pass on the culture properly down across to the other lads.

I'm happy with the decisions of Kylian Mbappe honestly, bit he shouldn't be too rude and arrogant with the way he goes about his business, his main aim and focus right now is to ensure that he moves to a club who is ready to see him win the Ballon d'or. I don't know if he'll see a like Real Madrid that'll help him achieve that.

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December 29, 2023, 11:15:57 PM
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So it is not surprising that Ligue 1 is called the Farmers League by many people, there are no serious competitors in the hunt for trophies, PSG is like walking in the park in collecting point after point, because no team has succeeded in suppressing their dominance due to being stingy in spending the budget to build the club. Overall, this kind of thing has an impact on the competitive level of the League, and when they compete in European competition, we will see Ligue 1 representatives going home early.

If the perspective of club owners is purely business, then we will never see Ligue 1 more advanced than it is today. Only a few fans are interested in watching their matches, of course gradually they will continue to be left behind in many ways, including the lack of star players who want to have a career in Ligue 1.
I think Ligue 1 is a league where it is quite easy to guess who will be champion at the end of the season. No other team can compete with psg so far because psg is so strong and it is quite difficult to expect to lose their consistency in every match they play. This season PSG has sat comfortably at the top of the standings with a 5 point lead over the second ranked team.
The team ranked second or below PSG is only competing to be able to close the season in the top 4 and play in the Champions League. Because as long as PSG has quality players in their team it will be difficult for Nice and Monaco to take over the leadership of the standings from PSG.
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December 29, 2023, 11:29:04 PM
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I love the way the PSG team management is handling the club because with there target and planning they have for PSG the club will be so strong that every other team will be scared of them whenever they meet them, because just like you said if they eventually sign more players during the transfer window it will greatly enhance PSG performance in such a way that all there leagues next season will be very easy for them. And also I believe that there are more good things installed for PSG by there management because with the kind of money the club has they will make sure they eradicate any chances that will make PSG to lose any matches from next season.
PSG needs time to heal after losing several key players in the club, players that have aided the team's growth in both past and current. The performance of the club clime beyond our expectations, we know how promising they can be and knowing fully we they are able to dissapoints. Every match have been held to become difficulty for Paris Saint Germain, on the records, PSG are trying but they don't just fit in to win these matches. PSG performance have been questionable this season due to absence of the big names found in the club last season.

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December 29, 2023, 11:49:45 PM
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Their game is always on the edge as as soon as they concede two or more goals, their whole game plan is in vain since they usually don't score more than one goal. But to be honest this isn't something that can quickly be fixed and if they only have the resources and players to focus on one thing over another, I think sticking to a strong defense is the best they can do. If they can then gradually improve their offensive game over time as well, then it is even better. But for the time being I believe Nice will remain the team scoring a low number of goals while also conceding not a lot of goals.
PSG having most lethal attack in French league and with this they can ruin any team, but their defense is also conceding goal which is also created problems for them but still currently they are at the top and having enough chances for staying at this spot but now Nice which is currently second but having the least goals in top ranks with just 19 goals from their 17 games mean they are not going to challenge leaders and if they want to have better in second half they need to improve this and having quality striker which will give them good confidence and improvement which is also important for them otherwise things can take good change, and they can go into problems with second half never been easy for any top team which is also wants to stay in touch for the European connections.

But the imbalance between their offensive game and their defensive game has been PSG's biggest problem ever since I know the club and ever since I have been following their games. Their offense has never really been a problem, but the issue was that their defense was out of balance because they afforded three players in their attacking line that never did defensive work. I think in modern soccer no team can afford three players of the same type who are just waiting at the midfield line to get the ball and start an attack. If you look at players like Lewandowski or Harry Kane, the effort they put in to help their defense is incredible. A team may have one player like Mbappe who is just waiting for the ball, but PSG often had three of them.

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December 30, 2023, 11:18:13 AM
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But the imbalance between their offensive game and their defensive game has been PSG's biggest problem ever since I know the club and ever since I have been following their games. Their offense has never really been a problem, but the issue was that their defense was out of balance because they afforded three players in their attacking line that never did defensive work. I think in modern soccer no team can afford three players of the same type who are just waiting at the midfield line to get the ball and start an attack. If you look at players like Lewandowski or Harry Kane, the effort they put in to help their defense is incredible. A team may have one player like Mbappe who is just waiting for the ball, but PSG often had three of them.
Yes, that's true and I agree with you that PSG always doesn't have a balance between the attack line and the defense line and what I don't like the most about Mbappe is that this player often doesn't want to help in defense line and more often waits for the ball and scores and this often happens in several matches and anyone who doesn't believe it can see for themselves when PSG competes that Mbappe will rarely help defense line.
In fact, as quality player he must be able to control all lines to make maximum contributions without having to wait for the ball but it is better to also help secure the ball and on one hand, PSG defense often makes mistakes by being too focused on helping score but not seeing the empty space in their defense. so there was a break.
So I often say that PSG actually doesn't deserve the Champions League trophy even though every line isn't perfect.

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December 30, 2023, 11:54:34 AM
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I love the way the PSG team management is handling the club because with there target and planning they have for PSG the club will be so strong that every other team will be scared of them whenever they meet them, because just like you said if they eventually sign more players during the transfer window it will greatly enhance PSG performance in such a way that all there leagues next season will be very easy for them. And also I believe that there are more good things installed for PSG by there management because with the kind of money the club has they will make sure they eradicate any chances that will make PSG to lose any matches from next season.
PSG needs time to heal after losing several key players in the club, players that have aided the team's growth in both past and current. The performance of the club clime beyond our expectations, we know how promising they can be and knowing fully we they are able to dissapoints. Every match have been held to become difficulty for Paris Saint Germain, on the records, PSG are trying but they don't just fit in to win these matches. PSG performance have been questionable this season due to absence of the big names found in the club last season.
But now PSG seems to have started to forget about the big names of last season and is more concerned with talented young players. Maybe some people don't know that PSG has got two young talents from Brazil and they are Lucas Beraldo and Gabriel Moscardo. These two players seem quite promising and have two different positions.

Lucas Beraldo as a central defender and of course to strengthen PSG's defense line and Gabriel Moscardo as a midfielder who is of course expected to be able to move the ball more smoothly for attacks and occasionally also help in defense. Currently both of them have completed medical tests as new PSG players and their agreements will be announced next week.

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December 30, 2023, 12:15:51 PM
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Ligue 1 has several clubs whose owners are quite wealthy. But the problem is that they are not interested in building the squad by spending huge amount of money like PSG management. While PSG prepares large funds for player purchases, no other team in Ligue 1 provides such a large fund. So naturally PSG form a very strong squad compared to other teams in Ligue 1. and dominate Ligue 1. If the management of Lille, Monaco and Marseille prepare big funds, these clubs have the potential to dominate Ligue 1 and challenge PSG for the title. But the clubs are not interested in spending more money.
So it is not surprising that Ligue 1 is called the Farmers League by many people, there are no serious competitors in the hunt for trophies, PSG is like walking in the park in collecting point after point, because no team has succeeded in suppressing their dominance due to being stingy in spending the budget to build the club. Overall, this kind of thing has an impact on the competitive level of the League, and when they compete in European competition, we will see Ligue 1 representatives going home early.

If the perspective of club owners is purely business, then we will never see Ligue 1 more advanced than it is today. Only a few fans are interested in watching their matches, of course gradually they will continue to be left behind in many ways, including the lack of star players who want to have a career in Ligue 1.

This is all because of the presence of Qatari money to PSG which makes Ligue 1 very financially unequal. In the past, Ligue 1 could be said to be quite evenly matched (Marseille, Lyon, Monaco, Lille, took turns on the championship board, before the arrival of Qatari money to PSG).

Like Lille at that time who had just won the 20/21 league, next season they immediately became a mediocre mid-table team because they were forced to sell and sell key players like Renato and Botman due to the Covid pandemic, while PSG had no influence whatsoever regarding finances. It's true that PSG's real ambition is the UCL league, that's why they dare to bring in big players, but the effect on Ligue 1 is because they are too superior so other teams can't compete with them, so it's not surprising that Ligue 1 is called the farmers' league, PSG with It's easy to get trophy level 1 without any obstacles.
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December 30, 2023, 12:52:07 PM
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It's no longer a secret that PSG in the Champions League is an ordinary team because they are not used to the competition in Ligue 1, so when they play against teams that have high intensity in this competition, they always go home faster. Never mind in the EPL, maybe even in the Italian Serie A, maybe PSG won't be able to do anything because the champions there change every season.
That's the fact that PSG always dominates Ligue 1 because there is no truly consistent challenger to get rid of PSG at the top of the standings and I'm sure they will win the title this season for the umpteenth time. That's why PSG has never succeeded in the UCL because they don't really have opponents. which is balanced in Ligue 1 which makes them have more ability to compete in the UCL, fortunately they qualified for the next round only because of goal difference.

But their luck in qualifying for the next round does not guarantee that they will last long there because they will meet opponents who will make them bend their knees in the end, for example, Madrid and Munich, especially Manchester City as the defending champion, of course it will be difficult for them to face. I'm not sure Mbappe and his friends will be able to reach the UCL semi-finals this season.
I see your point about PSG's Ligue 1 supremacy. Financial power sets them apart from the league, so it's no surprise they stay on top. I'm conflicted about it. Their wealth have allowed them to sign top-tier players like Mbappe, which boosts Ligue 1's prominence. However, this league lack of competitiveness

Football is different in the Champions League. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, and Manchester City are dangerous. These teams may have an advantage over PSG due to their experience in tough leagues. I'm curious to see if PSG can adapt their game to these problems. Not only is the group good, but they can step up against harder opponents

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December 30, 2023, 01:01:41 PM
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This is all because of the presence of Qatari money to PSG which makes Ligue 1 very financially unequal. In the past, Ligue 1 could be said to be quite evenly matched (Marseille, Lyon, Monaco, Lille, took turns on the championship board, before the arrival of Qatari money to PSG).

Like Lille at that time who had just won the 20/21 league, next season they immediately became a mediocre mid-table team because they were forced to sell and sell key players like Renato and Botman due to the Covid pandemic, while PSG had no influence whatsoever regarding finances. It's true that PSG's real ambition is the UCL league, that's why they dare to bring in big players, but the effect on Ligue 1 is because they are too superior so other teams can't compete with them, so it's not surprising that Ligue 1 is called the farmers' league, PSG with It's easy to get trophy level 1 without any obstacles.
Last dominance teams success stop PSG won Ligue 1 tittle is Lille but they have one season quit well performance only before becoming mediocre teams and one years after winning domestic league failed to finish on Champion League spot standings. Not easy how to get top performance with less financial support such as PSG easily for spending much money without break out financial fair play rule and give highest payment salary for their players.

In this season likely keep label  Ligue 1 is farmer league with PSG keep dominance on the first standings, have losses points on several matches but not any Ligue 1 teams can pressure PSG on the top standings position behind 5 points left and could be more than ten points remaining for several matches later.

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December 30, 2023, 03:32:46 PM
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But this is not the whole truth. Winning the Champions League isn't easy and just look how long it took Manchester City to finally win the Champions League. Pep Guardiola has been the coach since 2016 and it took them seven attempts to finally win it. There is money needed, luck needed, high quality players needed and so on and so forth. PSG did achieve something on the domestic level and they made it into the final once as well. But they never had a coach who understood how to develop a team for many years.

The sheikhs don't necessarily have to understand a lot about football as they can hire their managers, which is what they do. But money can make a big difference if all the rest is taken care of, too. That is why it worked for Manchester City and they could establish themselves as the best team in the Premier League despite all the fierce competition.
Well Winning the UCL requires a different tactics because it’s so different from most domestic leagues and we can see from ManCity. Winning the UCL requires experience, massive investments that could last a good time. PSG needs not just the investment but also fierce competition in their league, else they’ll still remain inferior when competing with several top clubs in Europe.

 They can get a good manager but when the team is still playing on average in the league, then they’ll not know the full potential of themselves to be able to compete in Europe. Well hopefully more foreign investors would come investing in the Ligue 1 to make it more tougher and competitive compared to other top European leagues, however I still have this believe that with Luis Enrique they could manage to reach the semifinals in this season's tournament.

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December 30, 2023, 04:24:34 PM
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Our gaze never leaves Paris Saint Germain when it comes to Ligue 1, it's no wonder as they are the only club that has it all, so they are always going to attract attention. On the one hand it's quite boring to see them dominating the league, but on the other hand we can't do anything about it because other clubs are not at the same level as Paris Saint Germain.
When they dominate and are very difficult to beat, we take it as a given because they are the strongest club, but when they have problems and decline we take it as something unnatural. The problem that occurs is when they decline and there is no club that can take advantage of their decline, even if there is it will not last long and in a short time Paris Saint Germain can return to where it should be.

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December 30, 2023, 05:25:33 PM
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Our gaze never leaves Paris Saint Germain when it comes to Ligue 1, it's no wonder as they are the only club that has it all, so they are always going to attract attention. On the one hand it's quite boring to see them dominating the league, but on the other hand we can't do anything about it because other clubs are not at the same level as Paris Saint Germain.
When they dominate and are very difficult to beat, we take it as a given because they are the strongest club, but when they have problems and decline we take it as something unnatural. The problem that occurs is when they decline and there is no club that can take advantage of their decline, even if there is it will not last long and in a short time Paris Saint Germain can return to where it should be.
A very clear fact, when talking about Ligue 1, it is like saying the name PSG directly, it is like two sides of a coin that cannot be separated. Their dominance is beyond any other club, both financially, players, coaches and many other things. I think Ligue 1 will continue like this for a long period of time, only occasionally do we see PSG lose their concentration in securing full points, it's true that their competitors also can't make good use of it.

As long as there are no rich investors who acquire one of the clubs, then the title race in Ligue 1 cannot be taken seriously, PSG is guaranteed to be able to retain the trophy every season. We certainly hope that there is a team that can suppress PSG dominance, like Laverkusen in the Bundesliga, or like Girona in La Liga. However, so far no team has had that kind of consistency, so in the end the conclusion is that Ligue 1 is a boring league.

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December 30, 2023, 05:56:06 PM
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Our gaze never leaves Paris Saint Germain when it comes to Ligue 1, it's no wonder as they are the only club that has it all, so they are always going to attract attention. On the one hand it's quite boring to see them dominating the league, but on the other hand we can't do anything about it because other clubs are not at the same level as Paris Saint Germain.
When they dominate and are very difficult to beat, we take it as a given because they are the strongest club, but when they have problems and decline we take it as something unnatural. The problem that occurs is when they decline and there is no club that can take advantage of their decline, even if there is it will not last long and in a short time Paris Saint Germain can return to where it should be.
They appear like the most elite team in the Ligue 1 so the attention been draged to the Ligue 1 is usually focused on them because they are the only team that gives the kind of performance and entertainment which people expect to see from the league, although other teams are trying to bring home the competition and fun but they aren't as good as PSG.

Bringing an end to the dominance of PSG on the Ligue one will definitely end the boredom associated with the Ligue 1 but then I still think PSG still have a long time to enjoy dominance as no team so far in the Ligue 1 is yet to exhibit competitiveness which could lead to the end of the PSG dominance in the Ligue 1 especially this season. Nice is the only team that seem to have the capacity to be able to strip PSG of their dominance but currently they don't appear like they have that ability this season probably next season but then I think as PSG is so focused on the UCL currently, it's an opportunity if well utilized for Nice.

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December 30, 2023, 06:02:11 PM
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But this is not the whole truth. Winning the Champions League isn't easy and just look how long it took Manchester City to finally win the Champions League. Pep Guardiola has been the coach since 2016 and it took them seven attempts to finally win it. There is money needed, luck needed, high quality players needed and so on and so forth. PSG did achieve something on the domestic level and they made it into the final once as well. But they never had a coach who understood how to develop a team for many years.

The sheikhs don't necessarily have to understand a lot about football as they can hire their managers, which is what they do. But money can make a big difference if all the rest is taken care of, too. That is why it worked for Manchester City and they could establish themselves as the best team in the Premier League despite all the fierce competition.
Well Winning the UCL requires a different tactics because it’s so different from most domestic leagues and we can see from ManCity. Winning the UCL requires experience, massive investments that could last a good time. PSG needs not just the investment but also fierce competition in their league, else they’ll still remain inferior when competing with several top clubs in Europe.

 They can get a good manager but when the team is still playing on average in the league, then they’ll not know the full potential of themselves to be able to compete in Europe. Well hopefully more foreign investors would come investing in the Ligue 1 to make it more tougher and competitive compared to other top European leagues, however I still have this believe that with Luis Enrique they could manage to reach the semifinals in this season's tournament.

That is the biggest problem PSG has. They don't have financial issues and they had some coaches that were not too bad, but the average competition in their domestic league makes it hard for them to peak at the right moment when they play in the Champions League. Premier League teams have to peak almost every week and in La Liga it is at least more often than it is in Ligue 1. In Ligue 1 PSG really has to peak every few weeks, if at all. They could play at 90% the whole season and still win the title easily.

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