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Expect nothing from them mate , they will never give back your funds that is a sure thing .
However, a few people managed to get their money back. Two complaints were positively considered even this week: Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site. so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update? Even if they are real, 1XBIT will not regain their status so many old complaints are not addressed we can go back to last year for those complaints, if they want to regain their status they should first address the old one and they have to do it fast, fair and their decision should unquestionable.
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Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site.
so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update?
I have read many complaints against this casino, and people are complaining of money being stolen from them without a way to get their money back, which is suspicious since it could be that they are selectively scamming. People should do some research before sending their money and playing there. Everyone should always do research when it comes to money. In addition to reading the complaints, you can also read the description of several attempts to cheat 1xbit and the methods that the scammers use - I recommend you to read this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg59155849#msg59155849
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Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site.
so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update?
I have read many complaints against this casino, and people are complaining of money being stolen from them without a way to get their money back, which is suspicious since it could be that they are selectively scamming. People should do some research before sending their money and playing there. Everyone should always do research when it comes to money. In addition to reading the complaints, you can also read the description of several attempts to cheat 1xbit and the methods that the scammers use - I recommend you to read this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg59155849#msg59155849In this thread there are many complaints, I ask you: why I don't see so many complaints on other gambling site threads? there are gambling sites that have been on this forum for years and I haven't seen so many complaints, to be honest it's even hard to see a complaint, but in this thread there are so many complaints that it's not possible that all people are lying, that's clear. this site is the culprit, it is stealing people's money and they refuse to change and return people's money
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Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site.
so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update?
I have read many complaints against this casino, and people are complaining of money being stolen from them without a way to get their money back, which is suspicious since it could be that they are selectively scamming. People should do some research before sending their money and playing there. Everyone should always do research when it comes to money. In addition to reading the complaints, you can also read the description of several attempts to cheat 1xbit and the methods that the scammers use - I recommend you to read this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg59155849#msg59155849In this thread there are many complaints, I ask you: why I don't see so many complaints on other gambling site threads? there are gambling sites that have been on this forum for years and I haven't seen so many complaints, to be honest it's even hard to see a complaint, but in this thread there are so many complaints that it's not possible that all people are lying, that's clear. this site is the culprit, it is stealing people's money and they refuse to change and return people's money I see that you have not looked at the post that link I provided in previous comment .. So I will quote a bit especially for you: One of my assumptions is that the vast majority of complaints that appear on Bitcointalk are made by few people who operate multi accounts and are continously trying to cheat 1xbit. This assumption is due to the fact that the modus operandi is very similar: - complaints refer to almost the same (you noticed it yourself) - most of it is live betting on tennis or table tennis (I'm sure there are other possibilities as well, it's just the most popular sports for cheating) - the way of writing the text is very similar (capital letters, grammar, arrangement of texts, preparation of screenshots in advance, very good knowledge about other complaints etc.) - behavior in response to posts (for example, using very similar primitive insults) - similar amounts of money (mostly between $500 - $800) - spam - check history of posts of this accounts Spam that they make everyday from around 10-15 accounts makes it seem like there are hundreds of complaints, and in fact, it's just the same complaints coming in over and over for months.
I think that some time ago, someone found a way to cheat 1xbit (later maybe sold that method to others). 1xbit has improved security and is now better at catching cheaters. Note that when cheater is caught, his deposit is returned, so he don't really lose anything. He just sets up a new account and tries to cheat with this same money again, but anyway he can accuse bookmaker.. It makes that with every new account he can make new complaint. The problem for the cheater is when 1xbit discovers that this is his new account and he already withdraw equivalent of deposit from his other account. 1xbit does not want to show evidence of how detected cheaters, so as not to simplify bypass security for them. Scammers are angry that they have been caught and they don't even know how, so they attack 1xbit with complaints out of anger. (or maybe because they can not sell anymore their method of cheating) These are just my assumptions, but after about 7 months of observing this thread, I am firmly convinced that I am close to the truth.
Edit. NOT ALL complaints are made by cheaters! However, in my opinion, most come from them.
From what I noticed in recent weeks, the activity of this type of account has decreased significantly. This may mean that 1xbit security team has improved the effectiveness of catching them and it is no longer profitable for them. We can also notice that the complaints that appeared were considered positively. I hope that the situation from now will only improve.
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<...> From what I noticed in recent weeks, the activity of this type of account has decreased significantly. This may mean that 1xbit security team has improved the effectiveness of catching them and it is no longer profitable for them. We can also notice that the complaints that appeared were considered positively. I hope that the situation from now will only improve.
I see a lot of assumptions and opinions on your part. You assume, for instance, that most complaints are made by cheaters, although there is no evidence of that and 1xBit has never revealed such information. Secondly, you claim that most of the complaints involve live betting on tennis or table tennis despite the fact that there is no such information either. Most complaints only contain the user ID and the amount scammed. Therefore, unless you work for their security department, you can't have that information.
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March 06, 2022, 10:25:36 PM |
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<...> From what I noticed in recent weeks, the activity of this type of account has decreased significantly. This may mean that 1xbit security team has improved the effectiveness of catching them and it is no longer profitable for them. We can also notice that the complaints that appeared were considered positively. I hope that the situation from now will only improve.
I see a lot of assumptions and opinions on your part. You assume, for instance, that most complaints are made by cheaters, although there is no evidence of that and 1xBit has never revealed such information. Secondly, you claim that most of the complaints involve live betting on tennis or table tennis despite the fact that there is no such information either. Most complaints only contain the user ID and the amount scammed. Therefore, unless you work for their security department, you can't have that information. This post above was supposed to explain only how the accounts that spam this thread operate. As for examples of these accounts that were caught cheating in their complaints, you can find them in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg59155849#msg59155849(just have a look there so I don't have to quote everything again, because it's quite a lot of text)
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March 06, 2022, 11:33:15 PM |
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Expect nothing from them mate , they will never give back your funds that is a sure thing .
However, a few people managed to get their money back. Two complaints were positively considered even this week: Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site. so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update? Even if they are real, 1XBIT will not regain their status so many old complaints are not addressed we can go back to last year for those complaints, if they want to regain their status they should first address the old one and they have to do it fast, fair and their decision should unquestionable. It is very unfortunate that there are people who still defend this campaign. Though measures have been tackled by the campaign manager of 1xBit, I do think that they cannot erase their track history given that lots of people were not able to receive their funds and winnings. Not to mention, there have been reports that some account cannot withdraw their money from this gambling website. Even if they do try to band-aid the solution by addressing some complaints, you cannot take away the fact that such project has been operating shenanigans ever since. Again, better to avoid than to cure- there are lots of gambling websites present so why still choose the one with such a bad history?
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March 06, 2022, 11:41:02 PM |
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Again, better to avoid than to cure- there are lots of gambling websites present so why still choose the one with such a bad history?
It's because some people get tempted by great odds across various markets and are way too lazy to do proper research before investing here which is why they end up whining later on when some of the fault definitely lies on their side. Both 1xbet and 1xbit are well known in the gambling world because of their negative reputation and a simple Google search would expose a lot of important details related to them. This is the case with other shady gambling sites too. It all comes down to effective research in my opinion.
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March 06, 2022, 11:41:45 PM |
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Expect nothing from them mate , they will never give back your funds that is a sure thing .
However, a few people managed to get their money back. Two complaints were positively considered even this week: Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site. so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update? Even if they are real, 1XBIT will not regain their status so many old complaints are not addressed we can go back to last year for those complaints, if they want to regain their status they should first address the old one and they have to do it fast, fair and their decision should unquestionable. It is very unfortunate that there are people who still defend this campaign. Though measures have been tackled by the campaign manager of 1xBit, I do think that they cannot erase their track history given that lots of people were not able to receive their funds and winnings. Not to mention, there have been reports that some account cannot withdraw their money from this gambling website. Even if they do try to band-aid the solution by addressing some complaints, you cannot take away the fact that such project has been operating shenanigans ever since. Again, better to avoid than to cure- there are lots of gambling websites present so why still choose the one with such a bad history? Everyone should choose a gambling platform that suits him. The 1xBit negative opinion was built quite a long time ago and is not easy to rebuild it. Of course, if someone tried to cheat 1xBit, he would have to take into account the loss of winnings. Recently, however, complaints have been positively considered. Let's wait for users feedback and then we'll see if it's true.
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Everyone should choose a gambling platform that suits him. The 1xBit negative opinion was built quite a long time ago and is not easy to rebuild it. Of course, if someone tried to cheat 1xBit, he would have to take into account the loss of winnings. Recently, however, complaints have been positively considered. Let's wait for users feedback and then we'll see if it's true.
Even the recent issues are resolved positively, it doesnt mean the past issues (that are not resolved yet) would be forgotten. As you've said its not easy to rebuild the negative opinion (and I dont think its just an opinion because it has a basis and proof) so its understandable why gamblers are still not considering this site as trusted because it has a bad reputation. Those gamblers who still play on 1xbit are likely not aware of its reputation for not doing their own research.
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March 07, 2022, 12:54:38 AM |
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Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site.
so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update?
I have read many complaints against this casino, and people are complaining of money being stolen from them without a way to get their money back, which is suspicious since it could be that they are selectively scamming. People should do some research before sending their money and playing there. for years now this thread had been filled with complaints and without answers or refunding happening so i think i would believe that they are scammers . This would help clarify some things and I wonder why 1xbit ignores such a suggestion? For starters, members here are more likely to trust respectable forum members than paid shills.
Because what i see here? if they will collaborate then they will be obligated to pay those debts from the claimants then why would they do that? sorry for the losses but i thinkt this is what it is now.
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March 07, 2022, 01:06:48 AM |
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Everyone should choose a gambling platform that suits him. The 1xBit negative opinion was built quite a long time ago and is not easy to rebuild it. Of course, if someone tried to cheat 1xBit, he would have to take into account the loss of winnings. Recently, however, complaints have been positively considered. Let's wait for users feedback and then we'll see if it's true.
Even the recent issues are resolved positively, it doesnt mean the past issues (that are not resolved yet) would be forgotten. As you've said its not easy to rebuild the negative opinion (and I dont think its just an opinion because it has a basis and proof) so its understandable why gamblers are still not considering this site as trusted because it has a bad reputation. Those gamblers who still play on 1xbit are likely not aware of its reputation for not doing their own research. Many past complaints have been resolved, here you can check a list of them: We have combined issues posted by bitcointalk users so you can see the progress and decide everything for yourself.Fully restored accounts:1) Tim1996, 1 ETH 2) h4ns, 4,3 BTC 3) Aeshman, 10 mBTC 4) 2kevin2, sum not mentioned 5) MrBrightside1, 7,4 BTC Refund cases:1) sezulus, 59 mBTC 2) Fabi86000, 20 ETH 3) jennyoller, 40 mBTC 4) Holen88, 100 mBTC 5) Blogab, 63 mBTC (+hashes) 6) bestneon8, sum not mentioned 7) zekiman, sum not mentioned 8') elninnohameni, 200 mBTC 9) sammichael, sum not mentioned 10) dammlyn, 4,6 LTC 11) aksez, sum not mentioned 12) haluktr, 68 mBTC 13) merceniumeras, sum not mentioned 14) bleedrulez, 20 mBTC 15) zackhirarmador, 154 mBTC 16) kullerimer, sum not mentioned 17) manul-ayn, 133 mBTC 18) polinagil, $460 usd Total amount of resolved issues in this thread already exceeds: 13 BTC Bitcointalk is not an official way to solve such problems, but as you can see, support is not completely passive to them. There are more resolved current cases, but not all of them were approved positive. Most of the complaints in this thread are those that have been rejected and users are simply disappointed.
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March 07, 2022, 01:30:34 AM |
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Expect nothing from them mate , they will never give back your funds that is a sure thing .
However, a few people managed to get their money back. Two complaints were positively considered even this week: Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site. so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update? Even if they are real, 1XBIT will not regain their status so many old complaints are not addressed we can go back to last year for those complaints, if they want to regain their status they should first address the old one and they have to do it fast, fair and their decision should unquestionable. This site is sooner come to an end here in our Hamble forum mate, and they will find victims outside this this forum as we are continuously ruining their strategy to victimize more. i know this will take time because they are still paying SHILL account to protect their interest but surely this will end as they are feeling the effect of the campaign against playing in their site.
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March 07, 2022, 06:14:46 PM |
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Expect nothing from them mate , they will never give back your funds that is a sure thing .
However, a few people managed to get their money back. Two complaints were positively considered even this week: Never forget that those who claims to be having their funds back are questionable accounts that cannot prove clearly about their claiming , meaning they might be another SHILL ACCOUNT from the team that only provided to make good sounds of this scam site. so try not to consider those and also these 2 mentioned had been waiting again for 3 days yet what is the update? Even if they are real, 1XBIT will not regain their status so many old complaints are not addressed we can go back to last year for those complaints, if they want to regain their status they should first address the old one and they have to do it fast, fair and their decision should unquestionable. This site is sooner come to an end here in our Hamble forum mate, and they will find victims outside this this forum as we are continuously ruining their strategy to victimize more. i know this will take time because they are still paying SHILL account to protect their interest but surely this will end as they are feeling the effect of the campaign against playing in their site. I don't know if you are aware that 1xBit was on the market before you heard about cryptocurrencies. I can understand the narrative of someone who feels wise to repeat the same thing over and over again just to get more posts. But you are wrong because 1xBit will be rebuilding its opinion on Bitcointalk and I'm sure that will stay here longer than you.
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March 07, 2022, 06:46:42 PM |
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I see a lot of assumptions and opinions on your part. You assume, for instance, that most complaints are made by cheaters, although there is no evidence of that and 1xBit has never revealed such information. Secondly, you claim that most of the complaints involve live betting on tennis or table tennis despite the fact that there is no such information either. Most complaints only contain the user ID and the amount scammed. Therefore, unless you work for their security department, you can't have that information.
This post above was supposed to explain only how the accounts that spam this thread operate. As for examples of these accounts that were caught cheating in their complaints, you can find them in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg59155849#msg59155849(just have a look there so I don't have to quote everything again, because it's quite a lot of text) I'm not lazy to read previous posts, so you don't have to quote anything. You mentioned two examples of users who allegedly (again, no evidence) cheated on the 1xbit platform, and somehow concluded that most complaints are made by cheaters. How do you define the word "most"? Again, you make a lot of assumptions without any evidence to back them up. And you do it all the time. For your recollection, I can quote dozens of posts where you did that. You claim not to be a paid shill, so why do you have such a biased attitude?
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I see a lot of assumptions and opinions on your part. You assume, for instance, that most complaints are made by cheaters, although there is no evidence of that and 1xBit has never revealed such information. Secondly, you claim that most of the complaints involve live betting on tennis or table tennis despite the fact that there is no such information either. Most complaints only contain the user ID and the amount scammed. Therefore, unless you work for their security department, you can't have that information.
This post above was supposed to explain only how the accounts that spam this thread operate. As for examples of these accounts that were caught cheating in their complaints, you can find them in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266815.msg59155849#msg59155849(just have a look there so I don't have to quote everything again, because it's quite a lot of text) I'm not lazy to read previous posts, so you don't have to quote anything. You mentioned two examples of users who allegedly (again, no evidence) cheated on the 1xbit platform, and somehow concluded that most complaints are made by cheaters. How do you define the word "most"? Again, you make a lot of assumptions without any evidence to back them up. And you do it all the time. For your recollection, I can quote dozens of posts where you did that. You claim not to be a paid shill, so why do you have such a biased attitude? I gave examples of 4 users who cheated 1xbit (out of about 10-15 who spam this thread over and over again, that's a lot). It's a matter of time to catch more, but they're more careful now. If you take a closer look at the post history of these accounts and the others spamming this thread, you will see similarities of layout and text they were writing, the bets they make.. You will see that my assumptions could be very likely. From what I noticed, the activity of these accounts has already decreased a lot, so it looks like 1xbit security team has found a way to deal with them and it is no more profitable for them. Let's hope that the scammers give up and finally there will be calmness in this thread.
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March 07, 2022, 07:14:03 PM |
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I don't know if you are aware that 1xBit was on the market before you heard about cryptocurrencies.
I don't know if you are aware, but this is the NEW 1xBit, which is supposedly different from the old 1xBit. 1xBit is Now control by a new Team. We want to do a fresh start again. Most of the scam accusation are 2 years+ old, not sure if there a way to resolve them.
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March 07, 2022, 07:24:15 PM |
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I don't know if you are aware that 1xBit was on the market before you heard about cryptocurrencies.
I don't know if you are aware, but this is the NEW 1xBit, which is supposedly different from the old 1xBit. 1xBit is Now control by a new Team. We want to do a fresh start again. Most of the scam accusation are 2 years+ old, not sure if there a way to resolve them.
1xBit as gambling platform is the same. I know that the marketing is done by a new team. That is why everything has changed and the current 1xBit marketing team is trying to rebuild opinion. Of course it is not easy, but I believe it will happen sooner or later. There has already been a huge progress between what was and is now.
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March 07, 2022, 11:24:10 PM |
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1xBit as gambling platform is the same. I know that the marketing is done by a new team. That is why everything has changed and the current 1xBit marketing team is trying to rebuild opinion. Of course it is not easy, but I believe it will happen sooner or later. There has already been a huge progress between what was and is now.
All the evidence suggests that nothing has really changed, they are still just as scammers as before, maybe even more so. How long has it been since they came back here? Two years? Yeah, good job rebuilding community opinion. Keep believing.
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Naficopa
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March 07, 2022, 11:31:12 PM |
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1xBit as gambling platform is the same. I know that the marketing is done by a new team. That is why everything has changed and the current 1xBit marketing team is trying to rebuild opinion. Of course it is not easy, but I believe it will happen sooner or later. There has already been a huge progress between what was and is now.
All the evidence suggests that nothing has really changed, they are still just as scammers as before, maybe even more so. How long has it been since they came back here? Two years? Yeah, good job rebuilding community opinion. Keep believing. Then you missed this post with a list of positively considered complaints: We have combined issues posted by bitcointalk users so you can see the progress and decide everything for yourself.Fully restored accounts:1) Tim1996, 1 ETH 2) h4ns, 4,3 BTC 3) Aeshman, 10 mBTC 4) 2kevin2, sum not mentioned 5) MrBrightside1, 7,4 BTC Refund cases:1) sezulus, 59 mBTC 2) Fabi86000, 20 ETH 3) jennyoller, 40 mBTC 4) Holen88, 100 mBTC 5) Blogab, 63 mBTC (+hashes) 6) bestneon8, sum not mentioned 7) zekiman, sum not mentioned 8') elninnohameni, 200 mBTC 9) sammichael, sum not mentioned 10) dammlyn, 4,6 LTC 11) aksez, sum not mentioned 12) haluktr, 68 mBTC 13) merceniumeras, sum not mentioned 14) bleedrulez, 20 mBTC 15) zackhirarmador, 154 mBTC 16) kullerimer, sum not mentioned 17) manul-ayn, 133 mBTC 18) polinagil, $460 usd Total amount of resolved issues in this thread already exceeds: 13 BTC These are not all complaints that have been positively considered. I think this list hasn't been updated for at lest several weeks now.
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