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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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Author Topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024  (Read 644490 times)
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June 28, 2023, 08:23:52 PM
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A bbcsport news had reported that Man City had dropped out of the race to sign Declan Rice link   I think this is a relief to the gunner thus this an ample opportunity for Arsenal to quickly reach an agreement with West Ham, however it was reported that Arsenal wanted an instalment payment for the midfielder which West Ham outrightly rejected I think that is the only issue that is needed to be sort out which was delaying their agreement, though West Ham chairman David Sullivan is in full support of the departure of Declan Rice to a new club hopefully I few days time both club will an agreement while Declan Rice will also agree person term with his new club.
If Manchester City do fall out in the hunt for Declan Rice's signature then that is good news for Arsenal. I also read the news and have been confirmed by Fabrizio Romano.
West Ham set a hefty price tag for Declan Rice where £100m plus £5m in add-ons seems too high for his value. Regarding this I am very curious whether Declan Rice can really perform satisfactorily for Arsenal or maybe it's just a bad transfer.
I quote it here: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1674119998824931328?s=20
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West Ham have just communicated to Arsenal that they’re accepting £100m plus £5m add-ons fee for Declan Rice.
The two clubs remain in talks over deal structure & payment terms — as West Ham want £100m to be paid within 18 months.
Final discussions and then… done deal.

This is certainly a very high price for this player. But Arsenal also seems to be very determined to get him. It does not matter if they are going to pay the hundred million in 18 months. It is still a lot of money. I wonder if Arsenal is making the right decision by getting him for so much money. Arsenal must feel like he’s going to be a very important asset for the team. That’s why they are spending so much money to get him.

But my question is, is the 105 million actually going to be worth it to spend for this player?


It is seen that teams that pay such high transfer fees are always criticized, which is very normal. Chelsea paid a very high transfer fee for Mudyrk, Manchester City for Grealish. It looks like Arsenal will be one of the teams to be criticized like this. If they are going to pay such a high transfer fee, they probably shouldn't be thinking about making more transfers this season.

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June 28, 2023, 08:24:18 PM
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This is certainly a very high price for this player. But Arsenal also seems to be very determined to get him. It does not matter if they are going to pay the hundred million in 18 months. It is still a lot of money. I wonder if Arsenal is making the right decision by getting him for so much money. Arsenal must feel like he’s going to be a very important asset for the team. That’s why they are spending so much money to get him.

But my question is, is the 105 million actually going to be worth it to spend for this player?


The fact that Arsenal has been shifting the bid to accommodate Rice after many rejections from West Ham proves that they really needed him and the initial price trades was just market thing, they needed him that's why they had agreed on the $105M and what I think could have push Arsenal for that amount was because Manchester City were also on the raise but pulled out as soon as Arsenal presented another and when they think it's out of their financial plans, they let Arsenal have the deal and it's now theirs to buy.

How will Declan proves depends on next season, nobody can say this is exactly what he is going to do but since his past is good, I expect him to perform well in Arsenal if they put him in good use, and I think if he do well by next season, it's another opportunity for him to increase his transfer fee to another club and so does his market value.

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June 28, 2023, 08:27:32 PM
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Seeing the purchases of players like Kai Havertz, Declan Rice and Jullian Timber It is true that Arsenal will not repeat the same mistakes as last season. what a great buy this season for arsenal this proves they take next season very seriously, they do arrive in the emirates. Arteta is very ambitious to win many trophies with Arsenal.

Actually, Arsenal's players are all good, it's just that they don't have a suitable replacement player, it's proven that last season they couldn't be consistent until finally they were overtaken by Man Ciy. but with the arrival of these three good players, Arsenal will be able to compete in both the UEFA Champions League and the EPL League next season.

I'm still not convinced with the players Arsenal has bought so far, Timber is good but I don't trust Kai Havertz that much. I Hope Arteta can work a little bit of magic on him because he was good at Leverkusen but since he moved to Chelsea he has not been that good. I don't know how Arteta wants to deploy him next season but I hope it works.
Arsenal should have looked for a natural center forward instead.
Aside from the defensive midfielder position that they might have covered with Declan Rice. they still need a central midfield. They missed out on Gundungan who would have been a perfect player for them so they need another player like Gundugan before the transfer window closes.

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June 28, 2023, 08:34:14 PM
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It is possible that they could go far in the Champions League itself, as their form is likely to get even better next season. However, their merit this season is largely from the fact that other teams such as Chelsea and Liverpool have been extremely poor this season. In fact if it was otherwise, it's unlikely they would have stayed in fourth place, I think their position would have been 5 or 6
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion. It is reminiscent of the 2015-2016 scenario when Leicester City emerged as the champions of the English Premier League (EPL). The major teams did not perform consistently, providing a significant opportunity for Leicester to dominate the league table. Apart from factors such as luck and the exceptional generation of players they had at that time, the dominance of teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester City, who are typically among the top contenders, was compromised as they were not at their best.

The illustrious name and the accomplishments achieved by Manchester United, along with Alex Ferguson, are undeniable. They truly deserve appreciation for that. However, since his retirement, it seems that Manchester United has lost its spirit and playing style, as evidenced by their failure to clinch the EPL title again. They have brought in David Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, all with the aim of winning the league, but luck has not been on their side. During the transitional periods, they have also relied on interim coaches such as Giggs, Carrick, and Rangnick, who took over as the main coach but were eventually dismissed due to their inability to meet the club's expectations.

Hopefully, Ten Hag can rebuild Manchester United and bring back the glory days reminiscent of the Ferguson era. At the very least, we can enjoy a fierce competition in the EPL, and they can establish themselves as strong contenders in the race for the Champions League.

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June 28, 2023, 08:35:34 PM
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I have a bad feeling about this move because I think Neymar will not fit into Manchester United’s or the premier league aggressive style of football. Neymar is a player that enjoys dribbling and holding the ball while Manchester United like to explore their quick attacking strategy. I think it will be difficult for Neymar to adjust to the style of play and also the fact that he has not played in the premier league before makes it a gamble buy for Manchester United.
One thing is for sure, though: He won't be missed at PSG. At PSG, Neymar isn't exactly well-liked. It's safe to assume that the fans have a pretty up-and-down relationship with him because he sustains injuries frequently. It would be intriguing to see Neymar play in the premier league given his accomplishments in other leagues, particularly La Liga. He would likely blend in well at Manchester United, where they need a Talisman up front. I believe he and Rashford would make a great front-line pairing. I envision him either moving to the United States like Messi or to the Middle East like Manchester United's Ronaldo from there.

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June 28, 2023, 09:02:54 PM
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Neymar to United doesn't seem like a good move for United, not the other way around. Neymar would be very happy to play in such a great club and looking at the new ownership discussions and all, he would be very good signing as well. However, he is constantly injured and United needs a good result right away, they can't handle all the bad negative results that may happen.

This is why it is quite important for United to get some players that would impact right away and make them great as well. They already have a few good players, and they need to achieve a bit better soon as well, with like 3 great player transfers, they could literally fight for the top spot and they may end up doing that soon this summer if they do the whole takeover and money injection thing.
I have a bad feeling about this move because I think Neymar will not fit into Manchester United’s or the premier league aggressive style of football. Neymar is a player that enjoys dribbling and holding the ball while Manchester United like to explore their quick attacking strategy. I think it will be difficult for Neymar to adjust to the style of play and also the fact that he has not played in the premier league before makes it a gamble buy for Manchester United.
I truly want to add to that before you asked it. Manchester United signing Neymar that enjoys dribbling and holding the ball more often in every match? How would Ten Hag alter Neymar's playing approach to become a proficient offensive finisher? Let's see what Neymar's future in the Premier League holds since he is the type of player Manchester United wants on their side. Whether or if he will perform at his peak. We'll have to wait and see how far Manchester United would go with Neymar.

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June 28, 2023, 09:05:46 PM
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Attetta is setting a very good system in Arsenal and I see Arsenal with a promising future. Last season they did fought a good fight but were a bit unlucky, this season will bring something different for Arsenal, especially with the joy of featuring in the UEFA champion league. According to Fabrixmzio Romano, The club is currently on a hunt for Jurien Tumber and is already close to agreeing on a deal.  Arsenal had a little defensive challenge last season and I'm sure Timber's deal will help subside that. Bringing in Declan rice, andJurien is a good preparatory measure for the gunners.

Attetta had a good performance in Arsenal in this season and he helped his team to have a good performance in the premier league where they got second place in the table and they were even in first place of the table for weeks, Attetta is not experienced like Guardiola and in the end, they lost the race mostly because of Guardiola, otherwise, Attetta could help Arsenal to win the title.
I think Attetta is now more experienced and he can have even better performance in the next season.

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June 28, 2023, 09:14:43 PM
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Seeing the purchases of players like Kai Havertz, Declan Rice and Jullian Timber It is true that Arsenal will not repeat the same mistakes as last season. what a great buy this season for arsenal this proves they take next season very seriously, they do arrive in the emirates. Arteta is very ambitious to win many trophies with Arsenal.
Exactly. It looks like Arsenal learned a lot from last season and they seem to have a lot more confidence now. Their decision to take these players is indeed very good, especially to strengthen their squad. Indeed, this is not an easy and cheap thing to bring them to Arsenal, but this is a great job. It looks like the EPL will be even more interesting in the future, so there won't be absolute dominance from just one club. But this is another challenge for Arsenal to manage and maximize all the potential of both old and new players.

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June 28, 2023, 09:21:54 PM
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Attetta is setting a very good system in Arsenal and I see Arsenal with a promising future. Last season they did fought a good fight but were a bit unlucky, this season will bring something different for Arsenal, especially with the joy of featuring in the UEFA champion league. According to Fabrixmzio Romano, The club is currently on a hunt for Jurien Tumber and is already close to agreeing on a deal.  Arsenal had a little defensive challenge last season and I'm sure Timber's deal will help subside that. Bringing in Declan rice, andJurien is a good preparatory measure for the gunners.

Attetta had a good performance in Arsenal in this season and he helped his team to have a good performance in the premier league where they got second place in the table and they were even in first place of the table for weeks, Attetta is not experienced like Guardiola and in the end, they lost the race mostly because of Guardiola, otherwise, Attetta could help Arsenal to win the title.
I think Attetta is now more experienced and he can have even better performance in the next season.
We can not ascribe the success of a team ro a particular players e en though their contributions have pushed their respective clubs forward but even at that we still have some other clubs with better players but lack of combination or management draged them backward in this season amd even in other seasons before this time so the ultimate thing for teams members is to work with other team members to make a goods co vine efforts to secure the clubs winning at all time Atattah age and experience have indeed contributed to pushing upward till this current Asernal positions.

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June 28, 2023, 09:30:25 PM
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The fact that Arsenal has been shifting the bid to accommodate Rice after many rejections from West Ham proves that they really needed him and the initial price trades was just market thing, they needed him that's why they had agreed on the $105M and what I think could have push Arsenal for that amount was because Manchester City were also on the raise but pulled out as soon as Arsenal presented another and when they think it's out of their financial plans, they let Arsenal have the deal and it's now theirs to buy.

How will Declan proves depends on next season, nobody can say this is exactly what he is going to do but since his past is good, I expect him to perform well in Arsenal if they put him in good use, and I think if he do well by next season, it's another opportunity for him to increase his transfer fee to another club and so does his market value.

Declan Rice is a statement signing from Arsenal and Arteta and it could be the final push that the team needs to finally win the Premier League this coming season. I also expect Rice to perform excellently well, especially as he is going to play with Odegaard and Trossard in midfield. Its a promising season ahead for Arsenal.
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June 28, 2023, 09:35:40 PM
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Glazer family is the red devil itself, they have reduced the club to nothing, that's why Manchester united is struggling every season and have lost their place to Manchester city. i don't expect any change in the club till the Glazer family leave the club. the club has incur huge debt because of their recklessness and poor management skills in the club. Ten tag has performed absolutely and he must be given a serious attention to pilot the club to a greater height. He can only achieve it through a good owner, who has passion for the club and football.Glazer family must Go
I wonder why the deal is taking too long, this is a crucial time when the manager along side sporting director and head of transfers to be working to put necessary requirements needed in place for the coming season, if the delay goes one and the club is not clear on next steps before the transfer window draws close yo shutting down it will be at the detriment of the club for the next season.
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June 28, 2023, 09:42:32 PM
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Hopefully, Ten Hag can rebuild Manchester United and bring back the glory days reminiscent of the Ferguson era. At the very least, we can enjoy a fierce competition in the EPL, and they can establish themselves as strong contenders in the race for the Champions League.

Ten Hag’s arrival at Manchester United raised the hopes I think of a lot of fans all over. He came in when Man United desperately needed some change. And some change he did bring. Having won the EFL cup and  finished amongst the top four in the just concluded EPL and qualified for the Champions League, one could say it’s a good start in the right direction.

I think we would see a more better performance from Manchester United in the coming season. They would need to gear up for a competitive season and I have some hope that they would be ready. It would be nice to see the glory days of Manchester United during the time of Ferguson come alive again.
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June 28, 2023, 09:44:56 PM
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No doubt Manchester united has been solid ever since Ten Tag took over, he managed to play two cup finals and won one and ended the league in top three,  he has proven beyond reasonable doubt, that he is the man for the job. and if this ownership handover favour the Qatar investor,  I'm convinced that Manchester united will be contending for the title next season and will perform well in the champions league as they used to.

its just unfortunate, that the ownership issue is still delaying and the transfer Market is very on, Manchester united has not brought in any players none sold any. this issues is really affecting the whole club. I just wish it turn out well for the club.
Indeed, there has been no news of a major transfer made by Man United in preparation for next season. But relying on the players this season seems difficult. They need central defenders, attackers, and midfielders who dare to work hard. Indeed, progress is quite good in Ten Haag's coaching period. It's just that they haven't performed stable last season. Ten Hag must be able to bring out the spirit of working hard and fighting together and eliminate selfishness for all players.
A team based on the players of defenders and midfielders can go a long way. For Man United to do well next season, the midfielder and defender issues need to be addressed quickly. A good defender can defend against the attack of the opposing team. But as far as I know the Man United coach is a very sensible person. It is hoped that this coach will be able to solve all the problems of Man United very soon
I don't know about solving the problems in Manchester united so soon because this team or club will definitely need time to restore it former glory days with sir Alex ferguson. I mean since he left the club Manchester united have seriously struggle to each in shape.

Eric ten Haag indeed has done brilliantly with the club in securing a place in the final three in table of the premier
League, but he still need more  time to developed the club
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June 28, 2023, 09:47:07 PM
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But what do the titles that Pochettino won really count? Are those titles valuable titles in the world of soccer? I would say no and it is also a difference if he had won those titles with a club like Lens and not PSG. Winning Ligue 1 with a star ensemble like he had available is not a big achievement. He might be the right coach now and I could be mistaken here, but my impression of Pochettino is that he is a decent coach but nothing to be too optimistic about. But he can enjoy his contract as I am sure that he has become a little bit richer when signed it with Chelsea Smiley

If winning the Ligue 1 championship with PSG is not a noteworthy accomplishment, then Ancelloti winning the Champions League for Madrid is also not noteworthy because they have always won it. I understand that Ligue 1 is a one-sided league, but other teams can try to win it, just as it happened in the Premier League when Leicester City fought back from relegation to win the title. A trophy is a trophy regardless of how frequently a team wins it or its record. Anything that may occur in the Premier League can occur anywhere.

Excuse me, but you didn't compare winning Ligue 1 with PSG to winning the Champions League with Real Madrid or in general, did you? I can't find the right words now to respond to you but your nonsense won't get you very far. What about comparing PSG winning Ligue 1 to PSG winning the Champions League? That would make more sense because it seems to be harder to win the Champions League, doesn't it? And I repeat that the Ligue 1 title is alright and can be celebrated, but it isn't on the same level as winning the Premier League or the Champions League. It is not even equal to winning Serie A. If you think it is a great accomplishment for a team with Messi, Mbappe and others to win Ligue 1, that's your thing, but I am sure that most people know where to put the Ligue 1 title (with PSG) in the ranking of all titles.

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June 28, 2023, 09:53:01 PM
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I don't know about solving the problems in Manchester united so soon because this team or club will definitely need time to restore it former glory days with sir Alex ferguson. I mean since he left the club Manchester united have seriously struggle to each in shape.

Eric ten Haag indeed has done brilliantly with the club in securing a place in the final three in table of the premier
League, but he still need more  time to developed the club
Well, Manchester United is a team that doesn't have a problem with spending money to recruit new players and even top players. The problem is with the management that wasn't good nor stable to maintain the brilliance of the team.
With Ten Hag, the team shortly moved from playing like clowns to compete for the top spots. That was a good step for a team that missed a lot of points in the beginning of the season. Next season will be more promising in my opinion for Manchester United but they have to consolidate the team and get ride of useless players.

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June 28, 2023, 10:23:59 PM
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Attetta is setting a very good system in Arsenal and I see Arsenal with a promising future. Last season they did fought a good fight but were a bit unlucky, this season will bring something different for Arsenal, especially with the joy of featuring in the UEFA champion league. According to Fabrixmzio Romano, The club is currently on a hunt for Jurien Tumber and is already close to agreeing on a deal.  Arsenal had a little defensive challenge last season and I'm sure Timber's deal will help subside that. Bringing in Declan rice, andJurien is a good preparatory measure for the gunners.

It seems that Arteta doesn't want to repeat mistakes in the last season when they got 2 successive defeats in the 36th and 37th matches
But so far Arsenal's efforts are still in the negotiation stage not yet managed to get the target player only a few players returned after the loan period ended
It's not too worrying because the transfer window is still available for the next 1 month there are still opportunities to increase negotiations.
Seeing the purchases of players like Kai Havertz, Declan Rice and Jullian Timber It is true that Arsenal will not repeat the same mistakes as last season. what a great buy this season for arsenal this proves they take next season very seriously, they do arrive in the emirates. Arteta is very ambitious to win many trophies with Arsenal.

Actually, Arsenal's players are all good, it's just that they don't have a suitable replacement player, it's proven that last season they couldn't be consistent until finally they were overtaken by Man Ciy. but with the arrival of these three good players, Arsenal will be able to compete in both the UEFA Champions League and the EPL League next season.
Arteta tried his best to win the Premier League for arsenal but it wasn't possible because the team lacks players. Arteta is a good coach and if it is possible for him to get the players of his choice it won't take arsenal any much stress to win a trophy next season.  I'm very sure arsenal regretted loosing Premier league in to Manchester City, they are trying their best to sign good players not repeat the  same mistakes next season . Kai Havertz, Declan Rice and other players that Arteta has in mind will be very useful to Arsenal.

Last season Arteta and his boys did very well during the early time of the game but they couldn't keep on the energy because no players, the players they had were already exhausted which they started to perform very poor.  This time if they buy enough players they won't break down to perform poor.  Arteta just need players to do the job to get trophies for arsenal.

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June 28, 2023, 10:27:27 PM
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This would be a huge team boost for Arsenal, Rice deal almost done, Kai Havertz have already completed medicals and he will be wearing the same number he wore in chelsea(29). Arsenal spending so much on players now really amazes me, they have never done this before and that was the main reason they lost Mudryk to chelsea, they felt shaktar was asking for too much for the player and they became reluctant then chelsea hijacked the deal

Kai Havertz tweeted something today and he officially said goodbye to his teams and his teammates, He could be a good player for Chelsea because after all these players who left Chelsea teams this season. Kai Havertz is a young player with good performance, I'm sure he will help Arteta in the next season.



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June 28, 2023, 10:41:01 PM
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Neymar to United doesn't seem like a good move for United, not the other way around. Neymar would be very happy to play in such a great club and looking at the new ownership discussions and all, he would be very good signing as well. However, he is constantly injured and United needs a good result right away, they can't handle all the bad negative results that may happen.

This is why it is quite important for United to get some players that would impact right away and make them great as well. They already have a few good players, and they need to achieve a bit better soon as well, with like 3 great player transfers, they could literally fight for the top spot and they may end up doing that soon this summer if they do the whole takeover and money injection thing.
I have a bad feeling about this move because I think Neymar will not fit into Manchester United’s or the premier league aggressive style of football. Neymar is a player that enjoys dribbling and holding the ball while Manchester United like to explore their quick attacking strategy. I think it will be difficult for Neymar to adjust to the style of play and also the fact that he has not played in the premier league before makes it a gamble buy for Manchester United.
I truly want to add to that before you asked it. Manchester United signing Neymar that enjoys dribbling and holding the ball more often in every match? How would Ten Hag alter Neymar's playing approach to become a proficient offensive finisher? Let's see what Neymar's future in the Premier League holds since he is the type of player Manchester United wants on their side. Whether or if he will perform at his peak. We'll have to wait and see how far Manchester United would go with Neymar.

I think the Manchester United coach will seriously need to do more talks with Neymar before bringing him to Manchester United because Neymar is a good player no doubt but he's pattern of dribbling and being selfish with the ball even in critical times leave me with serious thinking but seeing the good work of Eric Ten Hag last season as the Manchester United coach I believe he can change Neymar and bring out the beast in him to do the finishing job very well. Neymar is going to be a good player in the EPL and the whole world will be active watching for his arrival because he's a show boy when it comes to the field of play.

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Well, Manchester United is a team that doesn't have a problem with spending money to recruit new players and even top players. The problem is with the management that wasn't good nor stable to maintain the brilliance of the team. With Ten Hag, the team shortly moved from playing like clowns to compete for the top spots. That was a good step for a team that missed a lot of points in the beginning of the season. Next season will be more promising in my opinion for Manchester United but they have to consolidate the team and get ride of useless players.
Now the most important thing for Manchester United is to arrange the sale of the club as soon as possible, because there is information that the Glazer family is no longer going to spend money on new acquisitions, and the new owners, respectively, also have absolutely no way to do this yet. They say that Ten Hag is tearing up and rushing about this, because the club needs reinforcements, but he can't do anything at all and only looks with impotence at how the main competitors are strengthening.
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June 28, 2023, 10:55:38 PM
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Well, Manchester United is a team that doesn't have a problem with spending money to recruit new players and even top players. The problem is with the management that wasn't good nor stable to maintain the brilliance of the team. With Ten Hag, the team shortly moved from playing like clowns to compete for the top spots. That was a good step for a team that missed a lot of points in the beginning of the season. Next season will be more promising in my opinion for Manchester United but they have to consolidate the team and get ride of useless players.
Now the most important thing for Manchester United is to arrange the sale of the club as soon as possible, because there is information that the Glazer family is no longer going to spend money on new acquisitions, and the new owners, respectively, also have absolutely no way to do this yet. They say that Ten Hag is tearing up and rushing about this, because the club needs reinforcements, but he can't do anything at all and only looks with impotence at how the main competitors are strengthening.
Selling Manchester United may not be the answer to the club's problem because we have seen from history how clubs even after their sold still struggle with the problem that lead to the selling of the clubs in the first place,  take Chelsea for example,  when the club had it a crisis and it was sold since then the club have not been able to recover fully.

And as a matter of fact, their condition worsens further without any solution insight unless for the management fo does a total overhaul and releases power to the coach to manage the club with adequate timing,  so instead of Manchester United falling into that condition,  it is better for the club to build a formidable team that can help the club recover it lost glory instead selling the club.

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