2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

[slaman29]

A dice bet on 1.01 is "safer" to me than a football bet on 1.01 or any sports actually. OR even 1.1x on dice you are for sure getting a chance of almost 90% to win, whereas in football these 1.1x odds are never 9 out of 10 games, just always a draw to kill you when you least expect it. Which is why I never go below 1.5x in football (where even that is not easy).

Yes, that's true. I noticed that at extremely low odds (as well as at extremely high odds), the "honesty" of the results is lost. This is probably because many betters like "reliable" bets and bookmakers give unfairly low odds - that is, instead of 1.1 they give 1.05, etc. The same happens at extremely high odds - instead of 70, bookmakers give only 50, and so on. Really fair odds with fair bookmaker margins can only be found in the middle range.

Absolutely I think you just used the right word here with "honesty". And in the same way if I see a game with very high odds (comparative to what is used to be the case for the same team) then the odds are being completely dishonest about chances, and rather reflecting where peple are putting the money.

For example if you see some odds are the exact same capped at 100x. 7-7 and 5-5, so of course 7-7 should be harder. So never make that bet unless you get "honest" odds!

[coco23]

BTW if Poland and Portugal lose, do they have no other way to go to the world cup?

No, that's their last and only chance. As seconds in their groups (Portugal behind Serbia and Poland behind England) they are now in the play-offs for the last remaining spots for the European teams.

Don't know about the others, but I find it really weird to see Canada topping the CONCACAF qualifying group
They haven't played in a single World Cup since I've been born and now they are in front of both USA and Mexico and have been playing superbly throughout the qualifiers as well.
They have confirmed their qualification with style - beating Jamaica 4-0.

I really like 2 of their main players - Davies and David. I barely know any others though - on paper they do look like a really weak team. Still - these results mean that they are well organized and maybe they will score their first goal ever in a World cup tournament in Qatar.

Interesting outcome indeed! Canada won most games against the weaker teams and managed not to lose against Mexico and USA! Well deserved qualification, I am looking forward to their performance in the World Cup! Technically the USA can still overtake them in the ranking, but this would be without any effect for the qualification.

[Shasha80]

Many see the Swedes as favourites, but I think the odds are about the same.  Looking at the personal meetings between these teams, Poland have not beaten Sweden since 1991. In the modern phase, they have hardly ever met, except for the European Championships last year. I think Sweden will win again today, but it could be a draw.

Compared to the Portugal vs North Macedonia match, I think the Poland vs Sweden match is much more interesting, because as you said both teams
have almost the same strength. So I think both have the same chance, then it is a little difficult to predict the outcome of the Poland vs Sweden match.
Another interesting thing is that both teams have attackers who are quite influential in their respective teams. In which Poland was strengthened
by Robert Lewandowski who we all know was very productive with Bayern, while Sweden has Zlatan Ibrahimovic who is very experienced because
he is 40 years old. Sweden does have a winning record in the last 4 meetings against Poland, so it is not surprising if Sweden won again. I also bet
for Sweden's victory, because I see the strength of the Swedish squad is more evenly in all positions, so I think Sweden will beat Poland by one goal
difference.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

Don't know about the others, but I find it really weird to see Canada topping the CONCACAF qualifying group
They haven't played in a single World Cup since I've been born and now they are in front of both USA and Mexico and have been playing superbly throughout the qualifiers as well.
They have confirmed their qualification with style - beating Jamaica 4-0.

I really like 2 of their main players - Davies and David. I barely know any others though - on paper they do look like a really weak team. Still - these results mean that they are well organized and maybe they will score their first goal ever in a World cup tournament in Qatar.

Playing in Beşiktaş football club, Atiba and Larin are playing in the Canadian national team. Despite his advanced age, Atiba is a successful midfielder who has gained the appreciation of everyone. He will probably be 40 years old in the tournament. Larin is a successful wing forward who stands out with his strong physique. He can shine in the tournament. They will add color to the tournament.

[zaki12]

FT: Canada 4-0 Jamaica
Even though the score could have been worse, 4-0 is not bad! Canada is making the World Cup for the first time in 36 years. They are most certainly the best team in North America at the moment! As well as supporting Germany, I will be supporting Canada as well. Jamaica basically handed the game to Canada. Football is not Jamaica's calling, they should stick with selling weed.

Canada deserves to qualify for the World Cup because Canada currently has a golden generation squad that has played in several European competitions. There is Alphonso Davies who plays at Bayern Munich even though he is currently injured. In addition, Canada also has Jonathan Davies (Lille), Tajon Buchanan (Club Brugge), Cyle Larin (Besiktas), and Stephen Eustaqio (FC Porto).
So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

[casperBGD]

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So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

congrats to Canada, and their qualification to WorldCup
they have solid team, and it all depends on the group now, if they get two strong European teams, or best from South America, they are probably doomed to go back after group stage, but in the case they get two solid teams, but not top ones, they have good chances to pass-through

and after group stage, it is all one-match, but it would be too much for them to pass even one round

[xzone]

I also don't see anything worth to bet on for the Portugal - North Macedonia match in two days. Portugal's winning odd right now is only 1.2 and this is not worth taking a big risk I believe. Actually I also think that Portugal wouldn't do the same mistake Italy did here. But I still don't want to feel stressed by betting on them after witnessing that result.    But maybe one can give a chance to North Macedonia's double chance here. If one bets on it with a small amount, it would be fun to follow the match like that.

The odds are really low, it's not worth the risk for this game. We know that Portugal is a very strong team, but Macedonia is also a team that can achieve surprising results. They managed to win against Italy. Therefore, it may be a better option to choose other matches instead of this match. Actually, I think both teams can score in this match

[Raflesia]

I also don't see anything worth to bet on for the Portugal - North Macedonia match in two days. Portugal's winning odd right now is only 1.2 and this is not worth taking a big risk I believe. Actually I also think that Portugal wouldn't do the same mistake Italy did here. But I still don't want to feel stressed by betting on them after witnessing that result.    But maybe one can give a chance to North Macedonia's double chance here. If one bets on it with a small amount, it would be fun to follow the match like that.

The odds are really low, it's not worth the risk for this game. We know that Portugal is a very strong team, but Macedonia is also a team that can achieve surprising results. They managed to win against Italy. Therefore, it may be a better option to choose other matches instead of this match. Actually, I think both teams can score in this match

Whoever backs italy and bets on it then it's an upset at the end of the game which really surprises Italy to be knocked out by Macedonia then the risk is really big.
That's right I think we have to look at the opportunities we get, don't just look at a team because at any time they can lose.
I know Portugal are the favorite team, but indeed I will go through and other options I think are better than this opportunity, I think so.

[KTChampions]

But if North Macedonia can win this, at least it will be a big history for him. How not, North Macedonia can beat big teams like Italy and Portugal and it would be a big surprise if it actually happened. If you look at the quality on paper, it is at least the same as what Italy had before, but in the end who can think North Macedonia can beat Italy at the end of the match, but for Portugal of course they will learn more from what happened in Italy and Portugal will certainly anticipate this.

In some rare matches, the underdogs defeat the "big" teams, but it's hard to believe that this would happen twice in a row, and even at the playoff stage. Seeing the result of Italy, the Portuguese team will be initially set up for a more effective game, so the defensive game of Macedonia and even their luck (if any) will not surprise or confuse anyone.

[ibuddy122505]

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So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

congrats to Canada, and their qualification to WorldCup
they have solid team, and it all depends on the group now, if they get two strong European teams, or best from South America, they are probably doomed to go back after group stage, but in the case they get two solid teams, but not top ones, they have good chances to pass-through

and after group stage, it is all one-match, but it would be too much for them to pass even one round

Since I was born I've never seen Canada at the World Cup. The entire nation should be truly glad as of now and celebrates.
Canada have qualified already. The wait of 36 years is over for Canada. I'm aware of their sentiments after confirming their position on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar, also realization that how long they survive i mean grab any single win in the group stage.

[asus09]

But if North Macedonia can win this, at least it will be a big history for him. How not, North Macedonia can beat big teams like Italy and Portugal and it would be a big surprise if it actually happened. If you look at the quality on paper, it is at least the same as what Italy had before, but in the end who can think North Macedonia can beat Italy at the end of the match, but for Portugal of course they will learn more from what happened in Italy and Portugal will certainly anticipate this.

In some rare matches, the underdogs defeat the "big" teams, but it's hard to believe that this would happen twice in a row, and even at the playoff stage. Seeing the result of Italy, the Portuguese team will be initially set up for a more effective game, so the defensive game of Macedonia and even their luck (if any) will not surprise or confuse anyone.

There is also a saying that opportunity only comes once, maybe that will also apply to Macedonia, even though they managed to beat Italy, but I'm not sure they will do the same for Portugal, because Portugal must have learned from Italy's defeat, that's for sure. Portugal played very carefully, and did not let Macedonia break into Portugal's goal, a world cup without the most expensive star would be less exciting.

[cygan]

after being eliminated in the qualifying rounds, austria's national coach Franco Foda announced his resignation on this monday. on tuesday, he will sit on the bench for the last time in the test match in vienna against Scotland.
another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini
with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger

[joker_josue]

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini
with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

[Harkorede]

I also don't see anything worth to bet on for the Portugal - North Macedonia match in two days. Portugal's winning odd right now is only 1.2 and this is not worth taking a big risk I believe. Actually I also think that Portugal wouldn't do the same mistake Italy did here. But I still don't want to feel stressed by betting on them after witnessing that result.    But maybe one can give a chance to North Macedonia's double chance here. If one bets on it with a small amount, it would be fun to follow the match like that.

The money line on Portugal vs Macedonia is not worth betting on, however I think the Over 2.5 might be worth it, It's valued @ 1.7+, that's even more valuable than -1.5 Handicap for Portugal.

Poland vs Sweden is going to be tougher one to predict, and it's a 50/50 game imo, regardless of what the odds suggest, and very likely going to be a really low scoring one.

[cygan]

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini
with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

to the whole surprising elimination of the italians there is again a very funny cartoon, which shows the italian boot since the win of the world cup in 2006 ... this has completely disappeared from the world map since 2018...

[KennyR]

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini
with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

I don't say it as the mistake of the coach, the players or the overconfidence of the team. It is the bad luck of the team or the fate. Going through the match stats it is possible to know what has happened in the match. Italy have made 32 shots whereas Macedonia have made just 4 shots. Italy have made 16 corner shots whereas Macedonia have made none. Italy made 5 shots on the target and Macedonia made just two. Here in all aspects Italy have played better than North Macedonia, but they weren't able to win which is fate/bad luck.

[Altryist]

I don't say it as the mistake of the coach, the players or the overconfidence of the team. It is the bad luck of the team or the fate. Going through the match stats it is possible to know what has happened in the match. Italy have made 32 shots whereas Macedonia have made just 4 shots. Italy have made 16 corner shots whereas Macedonia have made none. Italy made 5 shots on the target and Macedonia made just two. Here in all aspects Italy have played better than North Macedonia, but they weren't able to win which is fate/bad luck.

You know, we could talk about bad luck if Italy could not defeat the Czech Republic, or Austria in this way. But with Macedonia, there should have been a confident victory. In no way do I want to offend the national team of North Macedonia, but Italy should not have let themselves be beaten. It could have been a draw and a win in extra time, or even a penalty shoot-out, but losing in regular time is unacceptable. Also, out of 32 shots on goal, and only 5 were in the stovr, this is a very bad statistic, maybe there was still an underestimation of the opponent by Italy?

[izsara]

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini
with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

Agree with what you say it is possible in this case not the problem of the coach.
Their confidence was too high now and indeed this was a blow to it.
On the other hand, actually, in terms of players and the game, I don't think it's too wrong, but they have high self-confidence and their game on the field still looks chaotic in my opinion, even though their players can be said to be quite famous.

[Gosgosking]

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So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

congrats to Canada, and their qualification to WorldCup
they have solid team, and it all depends on the group now, if they get two strong European teams, or best from South America, they are probably doomed to go back after group stage, but in the case they get two solid teams, but not top ones, they have good chances to pass-through

and after group stage, it is all one-match, but it would be too much for them to pass even one round

Since I was born I've never seen Canada at the World Cup. The entire nation should be truly glad as of now and celebrates.
Canada have qualified already. The wait of 36 years is over for Canada. I'm aware of their sentiments after confirming their position on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar, also realization that how long they survive i mean grab any single win in the group stage.

You are very right am beginning to reason it too, this is the first time I'm coming across to see Canada to participate in the world cup. It will be nice to watch how they perform in the world cup to know their level of football very well. It has not been easy for Canada to stay this long with participating in world cup for a very long time.

[Polkeins]

I don't say it as the mistake of the coach, the players or the overconfidence of the team. It is the bad luck of the team or the fate. Going through the match stats it is possible to know what has happened in the match. Italy have made 32 shots whereas Macedonia have made just 4 shots. Italy have made 16 corner shots whereas Macedonia have made none. Italy made 5 shots on the target and Macedonia made just two. Here in all aspects Italy have played better than North Macedonia, but they weren't able to win which is fate/bad luck.

You know, we could talk about bad luck if Italy could not defeat the Czech Republic, or Austria in this way. But with Macedonia, there should have been a confident victory. In no way do I want to offend the national team of North Macedonia, but Italy should not have let themselves be beaten. It could have been a draw and a win in extra time, or even a penalty shoot-out, but losing in regular time is unacceptable. Also, out of 32 shots on goal, and only 5 were in the stovr, this is a very bad statistic, maybe there was still an underestimation of the opponent by Italy?

Yes, there was no underestimation of the Macedonia. Macedonia did not just end up in this selection, but because Macedonia beat other teams. What happened to Italy initially should not have happened if Jorginho had scored a penalty. The Italian national team passed the entire qualifying cycle perfectly, but the failures in the qualifying cycle and then the failures with Macedonia showed how deceptive luck can be.
Well, one good striker was probably not enough, but there is no logic in the defeat of Italy, pure failure.