Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[bisdak40]

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

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[Kemarit]

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

I guess it's all about the money and the involvement of Rachel, obviously, the younger Donaire chooses to follow Rachel and then step aside his father. And so with this kind of thing, someone will really gets hurt and most likely his father didn't like that and so up to now, even though he has grand kids with Nonito Jr, he still can't get over that he was bypass. He doesn't need to wish it though as Inoue has knockout his son already.

[Finestream]

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.
Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

Yes, we have heard so much about Casimero wanting to fight Inoue at super bantamweight. But he needs to prove himself again at this new division. So far his first 2 fights is not that impressive and I doubt that Inoue caught his attention.
But if Inoue insisted to stay in this weight, then perhaps in the future this two will have to fight. However, this monster is really very huge puncher that I doubt any of the current rank fighters has a chance on him.

I've heard about this and I'm delighted that Naoya Inoue have no plans to climb the next weight class after the undisputed fight, I know that the outcome of the fight is not yet known and that he can truly defeat Marlon Tapales because it will mean that we already underestimated him. But it's just too great to discuss about the future where Inoue will have a few more fights whilst defending his belts, and so far, from what I've read in an article, it's either John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.

Kelvinid, It is certainly not too late. He still has a chance. But obviously he will have to win fights consistently and continue to go up through the ranks. I don’t think it is going to happen if he loses even a single fight. So of course that is not going to be an easy task for him.

Casimero will have to beat anyone that is presented in front of him. “the turtle”  is not an exception. There is a chance that the fight is going to happen between them.

Casimero has to remember that no fight at this stage is going to be easy for him.  Trash talking is good for selling fights. But that might turn out to be bad if not done correctly and if the opponent uses this as fuel.

Best case scenario is that maybe we can see a Nery vs Casimero fight this year or early next year, I know that it is not yet sure but I think that it is much better to see that kind of fight to see who is more entitled and deserving to face the undisputed champion, considering that Inoue won against Tapales.

And about that "Japanese Turtle" comment, Casimero shouldn't have done and said that because that is just too low and he might get what he deserve in a bad way. I know that he is somehow durable when it comes to receiving powerful punches but he should remember that Inoue is different.

[inthelongrun]

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

I guess it's all about the money and the involvement of Rachel, obviously, the younger Donaire chooses to follow Rachel and then step aside his father. And so with this kind of thing, someone will really gets hurt and most likely his father didn't like that and so up to now, even though he has grand kids with Nonito Jr, he still can't get over that he was bypass. He doesn't need to wish it though as Inoue has knockout his son already.

A friend already had an agreement with both Junior and Rachel to talk about it to clear things up but at the moment their busy schedules cannot meet. Of course, Senior will be interviewed as well later. It's a sensitive long story and we only hope they will reconcile once again for good.

It's hard to judge them since they both have their own sides of the story. But it all started when Junior married Rachel and the wife later took over the boxing career. She changed the team big time and fired Senior as the coach. It hurt Senior but there were also allegations about him mishandling Junior's hard-earned money. There were many times they reconciled and then relationships went sour again.

With regards to the prediction, we all knew Junior is not getting knocked out, I cannot remember him getting hurt in this division and down below. Except in the Inoue fight, of course, the guy is also a living legend. But Santiago is not a knockout artist and even Senior knew his prediction is too far off. So Junior could've laughed it off and made some fun of how bad his old dad is at making predictions. Senior had been calling many times for Junior to retire, including the Inoue rematch wherein he was worried about the health of his son.

[livingfree]

While we do believe that Casimero knows those stuff and everything and can sell himself to their camp. I just recently saw about the thing with Donaire.

It was tough and hard time again for him as it's an emotional tweet that he has posted on his twitter account.

For anyone who wants to know about it, just go ahead on his handler/account.

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

The dude just got a lose after a lose and then this, that's a lot of things for him to absorb and no one probably will remember this but her wife got also some beef with other guy, a beef not an affair.

So whatever is happening to him, I just wish him all the best and hopefully that he's able to overcome all of this. He still wants to fight and get some win before he fully retires.

We are all wishing him to get a win before he finally gets a goodbye to his pro career.

[Slow death]

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

when I read this post I went to check what the Nonito Donaire wrote on his twitter account and honestly what he wrote is very painful, because when I read it here in this thread I even thought it was a small fight between father and son, something that could be resolved, but when I went to see what the
Nonito Donaire wrote on twitter, I saw that the Nonito Donaire said that his father is training other people to defeat Nonito Donaire in order to teach a lesson to Nonito Donaire is Nonito Donaire's father Not if this is being done according to what Nonito Donaire wrote, but also his father predicted that Nonito Donaire would lose so that he would laugh at his son later, it seems to me that we are facing something very more serious

a father can get angry, disappointed, sad, get angry and fight with his son, and something that happens very often with many people, but a father will go on social media or record a video or talk bad about his own son to others people, and still rooting for his son to lose in a fight knowing that it's an important fight for his son so this is a scary novel of hate, Nonito Donaire's father is forgetting that what is on the internet is recorded forever, even in the the day he regrets it, people will remember it, so how does he intend to show respect to other family members

after he shows that he prefers to root for strangers than to side with his own son? the problem with this type of attitude is that one day most family members will hate and exclude Nonito Donaire's father from the family and even when he regrets it, future generations of his family will at some point see bad things on the internet what he did and they will hate him too

[Vaculin]

While we do believe that Casimero knows those stuff and everything and can sell himself to their camp. I just recently saw about the thing with Donaire.

It was tough and hard time again for him as it's an emotional tweet that he has posted on his twitter account.

For anyone who wants to know about it, just go ahead on his handler/account.

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

The dude just got a lose after a lose and then this, that's a lot of things for him to absorb and no one probably will remember this but her wife got also some beef with other guy, a beef not an affair.

So whatever is happening to him, I just wish him all the best and hopefully that he's able to overcome all of this. He still wants to fight and get some win before he fully retires.

We are all wishing him to get a win before he finally gets a goodbye to his pro career.

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

[Hypnosis00]

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

In this situation, if Nonito would not reconcile with his father, nothing will happen. It should be the son who will make the move, regardless of what the misunderstanding is. However, that is very complicated, and as a fan who does not know what really happened between the two, I'm pretty sure what we heard and read in the media is not the full story and could just be one-sided. So, let's just hope that one day they'll reconcile again as life is too short.

Nonito could continue boxing if he wants, but as a fan who saw his performance against Santiago, I hope he'll consider retirement.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

In this situation, if Nonito would not reconcile with his father, nothing will happen. It should be the son who will make the move, regardless of what the misunderstanding is. However, that is very complicated, and as a fan who does not know what really happened between the two, I'm pretty sure what we heard and read in the media is not the full story and could just be one-sided. So, let's just hope that one day they'll reconcile again as life is too short.

Nonito could continue boxing if he wants, but as a fan who saw his performance against Santiago, I hope he'll consider retirement.

If there is a reconciliation, maybe someone in the middle should be involved, a person that is very close to them so that they can patch things up and move along with their lives specially that Nonito Junior might be in the end of his career and of course if that happens then he can recollect the memories and see that at one time, his father was really very instrumental in the beginning of his career. And who will forget how to knockout Vic Darchy and you can see his father and brother at his side very proud of his accomplishments that time. Just very sad that when Rachel enter into his life which is supposed to make Junior happy everything went sour with his relationships with his father.

[Oasisman]

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

Oh shoot! that's really hard to digest after training hard and end up losing. I don't think this came from out of nowhere as his dad wishes him to fail just for this fight. I think it's always been inside him, simply because there might have been a bad connection between them already. If they haven't, they could have stayed in the same team until the very last fight Nonito Jr will have in his entire career. But the separation between this 2 was really something. Not sure what really was the issue here, but what we've just seen is just a peak of an iceberg.
It's just sad they let this issue go out to the public, good thing is, this happens at the verge of Nonito Jr's career otherwise It could've affected his performance.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/stephen-fulton-posts-reaction-following-naoya-inoue-loss/10j0j4pso5rsx15754a8n9vdeu

In spite of everything, what I have said is what he wants, a simple and good revenge, worthy of someone like Fulton, for now what they are going to concentrate on, I am sure it will be the fights that are coming for Inoue It is something exciting because the fighters in this category are going to want to measure themselves against him, in part they must be quite curious, because a new boxer in the category and he does these things, it is something that I like a lot , this makes the category more dynamic. I am sure that when Inoue achieves his goals here, he will continue to grow and search for a new category,  for me this Inoue is like a genius of the sport.

Fulton's reaction to this loss seems kind of poor to me. He is not giving any credit to Inoue and instead only talks about himself. If he thinks he deserves a rematch then he is delusional. He didn't win a single round. Inoue has nothing to prove and should just move on. It wasn't that Fulton had an off night as he claims, it's just that Inoue is superior in every way imaginable. Fulton should instead focus on rematching Brandon Figueroa since that was a controversial decision that deserves a second fight.

Yeah, it really haven't sink in to his skull that a Asian boy beat his ass to the ground, knock him out and he can't bounce back. Not very sportsman like coming for Stephen Fulton. And that's why a slew of fans are on a offensive on him, even his own fans saying that he should move on because they know he can bounce back but at least give credit where credit is due, that is he lost to Inoue.

Now, moving forward for Inoue, he is looking for Tapales, and at a very young age, he is setting a record that might not be duplicated. To become a 4 belt champion in 2 division. And who knows where he is going to stop. Maybe at 126 lbs, he can still continue and dominant as if it is still the bantamweight division.

Well, this is something very good, because if things happen with Tapales, it wouldn't be bad, although Fulton is not very happy, he said that things didn't work out for him, but he is worthy of a boxer who is going to ask for revenge, Although before Pedri has a rematch, they have to do a training from another world so that he can be at the level of Inoue, if Tapales is at the true level for Inoue, let it happen, because otherwise there is no point in organizing a fight so that it is very easy for Inoue, Inoue is a boxer who must already fight with the most famous and must show why he changed categories, and this is undoubtedly what will silence many who do not believe in the Japanese.

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:

Five weight classes in, and Naoya Inoue hasn’t found a single fighter that can push him to his physical limits. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

After taking care of business in the bantamweight division, Inoue (25-0, 22 KOs) looked around despondently. There was simply nothing more to prove. Becoming an undisputed world champion was a fun journey but after placing a checkmark next to that goal, the 30-year-old Japanese star needed something new to conquer.

Stephen Fulton became the perfect target. He was a well known name, had an undefeated record, was as skillful as they come, and most importantly, held both the WBC and WBO super bantamweight titles.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-get-destroyed-by-gervonta-davis-says-assistant-trainer--176636



Well even the same things can go in a very focused direction that they can make Inpue fight with Davis, I don't know, but I think it would be a very interesting fight, however I could say that things with this boxer could turn out in the best way, Personally, I think that Inoue is on another level, despite the fact that he is testing this category, he has a great level as a boxer and can do things very well, be it with Davis or with whomever, I am curious that fights of the same type can take place. Japanese with several of the most famous boxers in this category, I understand that Davis's promoters say these things to provoke a good fight, maybe now everyone wants to fight Inoue, but it is up to the Japanese to accept the challenges.

Personally, boxers should not say so many things about Inoue, he has earned respect for many things he has done, so far he has not done well, he has not lost to anyone, boxers in this category should respect a little more the trajectory of this boxer.

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

Oh shoot! that's really hard to digest after training hard and end up losing. I don't think this came from out of nowhere as his dad wishes him to fail just for this fight. I think it's always been inside him, simply because there might have been a bad connection between them already. If they haven't, they could have stayed in the same team until the very last fight Nonito Jr will have in his entire career. But the separation between this 2 was really something. Not sure what really was the issue here, but what we've just seen is just a peak of an iceberg.
It's just sad they let this issue go out to the public, good thing is, this happens at the verge of Nonito Jr's career otherwise It could've affected his performance.

This kind of thing is incredible, but if I have someone whose mother has done very ugly things to me, and this is something that I couldn't believe until I saw it, there really are very special/bad/incomprehensible people that we in our We do not perceive the logic well, because I have seen that animals protect their young a lot, and do not allow anything to happen to them, so Nonito's case is something that causes a lot of pain, I would not know what to sa y, only that here it is the fault of losing the only he had, for me a boxer always wins his fight in training , if the training is hard, he wins, otherwise he will suffer a defeat, unless something extraordinary happens and the other Boxer makes many Mistakes to come back a Fight , but it's a very slim Chance.

On this occasion, I don't see many possibilities for Nonito to get a relevant fight, I think that if he wants to continue having a life in boxing, he has to train much harder, not talk so much and make his training one of the toughest in his life. everyone, I would think that things in boxing are sometimes unfair, but if he wants to retire now, I wouldn't blame him, he wouldn't go out the back door either, although every boxer is good to say goodbye to boxing with a good victory.

[Japinat]

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/stephen-fulton-posts-reaction-following-naoya-inoue-loss/10j0j4pso5rsx15754a8n9vdeu

In spite of everything, what I have said is what he wants, a simple and good revenge, worthy of someone like Fulton, for now what they are going to concentrate on, I am sure it will be the fights that are coming for Inoue It is something exciting because the fighters in this category are going to want to measure themselves against him, in part they must be quite curious, because a new boxer in the category and he does these things, it is something that I like a lot , this makes the category more dynamic. I am sure that when Inoue achieves his goals here, he will continue to grow and search for a new category,  for me this Inoue is like a genius of the sport.

Fulton's reaction to this loss seems kind of poor to me. He is not giving any credit to Inoue and instead only talks about himself. If he thinks he deserves a rematch then he is delusional. He didn't win a single round. Inoue has nothing to prove and should just move on. It wasn't that Fulton had an off night as he claims, it's just that Inoue is superior in every way imaginable. Fulton should instead focus on rematching Brandon Figueroa since that was a controversial decision that deserves a second fight.

Yeah, it really haven't sink in to his skull that a Asian boy beat his ass to the ground, knock him out and he can't bounce back. Not very sportsman like coming for Stephen Fulton. And that's why a slew of fans are on a offensive on him, even his own fans saying that he should move on because they know he can bounce back but at least give credit where credit is due, that is he lost to Inoue.

Now, moving forward for Inoue, he is looking for Tapales, and at a very young age, he is setting a record that might not be duplicated. To become a 4 belt champion in 2 division. And who knows where he is going to stop. Maybe at 126 lbs, he can still continue and dominant as if it is still the bantamweight division.

Well, this is something very good, because if things happen with Tapales, it wouldn't be bad, although Fulton is not very happy, he said that things didn't work out for him, but he is worthy of a boxer who is going to ask for revenge, Although before Pedri has a rematch, they have to do a training from another world so that he can be at the level of Inoue, if Tapales is at the true level for Inoue, let it happen, because otherwise there is no point in organizing a fight so that it is very easy for Inoue, Inoue is a boxer who must already fight with the most famous and must show why he changed categories, and this is undoubtedly what will silence many who do not believe in the Japanese.

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:

Five weight classes in, and Naoya Inoue hasn’t found a single fighter that can push him to his physical limits. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

After taking care of business in the bantamweight division, Inoue (25-0, 22 KOs) looked around despondently. There was simply nothing more to prove. Becoming an undisputed world champion was a fun journey but after placing a checkmark next to that goal, the 30-year-old Japanese star needed something new to conquer.

Stephen Fulton became the perfect target. He was a well known name, had an undefeated record, was as skillful as they come, and most importantly, held both the WBC and WBO super bantamweight titles.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-get-destroyed-by-gervonta-davis-says-assistant-trainer--176636



Well even the same things can go in a very focused direction that they can make Inpue fight with Davis, I don't know, but I think it would be a very interesting fight, however I could say that things with this boxer could turn out in the best way, Personally, I think that Inoue is on another level, despite the fact that he is testing this category, he has a great level as a boxer and can do things very well, be it with Davis or with whomever, I am curious that fights of the same type can take place. Japanese with several of the most famous boxers in this category, I understand that Davis's promoters say these things to provoke a good fight, maybe now everyone wants to fight Inoue, but it is up to the Japanese to accept the challenges.

Personally, boxers should not say so many things about Inoue, he has earned respect for many things he has done, so far he has not done well, he has not lost to anyone, boxers in this category should respect a little more the trajectory of this boxer.

Steph Fulton can pursue a rematch, he does have the right for it if he wishes so but that is if Inoue's camp will still be interested on him because he doesn't have anything left to offer now and for the latter, it's already a closed chapter and they are now approaching to their new journey without Fulton's name being involved.
Unifying all the belts in super bantam is now their main goal and after that, it is said that Inoue will have a few mandatory title defense before he again moves to the next division.

Anyway, about Tank Davis, he's good and I'll give him that. A battle against Naoya Inoue will be a perfect sight to see because they are both powerful and a KO artisan but they are just too far away with each other now. Furthermore, I don't even expect that Davis will pave a way and will meet Inoue at 130 pounds. It's a good fight but I don't think we can witness that soon.

[livingfree]

The dude just got a lose after a lose and then this, that's a lot of things for him to absorb and no one probably will remember this but her wife got also some beef with other guy, a beef not an affair.

So whatever is happening to him, I just wish him all the best and hopefully that he's able to overcome all of this. He still wants to fight and get some win before he fully retires.

We are all wishing him to get a win before he finally gets a goodbye to his pro career.

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

I just can't remember if it was with his dad or some other guy.

But he's going through a lot and this makes me wanna see him to have another match and win it. So that if he decides to be convinced that could be his last fight, he's good to retire and forget all of those issues and problems that he's been in.

Especially on this one, a dad and son that has having a beef. This shouldn't be it but we don't know what culture they've been all together but hoping the best.

[jakelyson]

So, it is indeed final then because I sincerely thought that this fight did not materialized because of some issues along the way or it is not that profitable to make as I'm not hearing any news or noise about this fight in the past few weeks. Now I'm thinking that the reason behind that might be because of the big events happened recently that is why I did not hear any updates regarding this event.

Going back to the fight, and just like what I have said in the previous discussions concerning this fight, my bet would still be on the side of Jake Paul. Not because I admire him or what but because of the reason that this is a boxing fight and not a UFC fight where Nate got the advantages. It'll be the same as the Jake vs Woodley fight, the boxer will still have the last say and full control of the fight.

Yup! And it's going to be today or tomorrow, it depends on your time zone, and I think it will be available for both Sportsbet and Stake so make your bet now on Stake the odds are 1.22 for Jake Paul and 4.10 for the Nathan Diaz, well the full name of Nate Diaz for sure is what the bookies have used, while the Sportsbet odds 1.24 for Jake aul and 3.70 for Nathan Diaz, for sure Nate Diaz is the underdog for both bookies, and for sure I think I might try and make a bet, but I will look further if I still have a spare to make my bet,

I am a Nate Diaz fan in UFC but not in boxing. I don't think I will be betting for him on this fight. This is just a money-making event and I doubt the promoter will let himself lose on this fight. So, Jake Paul, it is for the win. The odds are 1.28 for Paul, not bad for profits.

For sure Jake Paul has a lot of Audience, which means there will be a lot that would watch this fight but I will not be so sure because even without the UFC Nate Diaz is still profitable for sure, there are a lot of fans for the Veteran UFC fighter that will watch his fights that is for sure, I am also a fan of Nathan Diaz, well this is the 1st time knowing his full name actually but if the fight is not MMA then this fight will likely for the boxer Jake Paul,

[posi]

Kelvinid, It is certainly not too late. He still has a chance. But obviously he will have to win fights consistently and continue to go up through the ranks. I don’t think it is going to happen if he loses even a single fight. So of course that is not going to be an easy task for him.

Casimero will have to beat anyone that is presented in front of him. “the turtle”  is not an exception. There is a chance that the fight is going to happen between them.

Casimero has to remember that no fight at this stage is going to be easy for him.  Trash talking is good for selling fights. But that might turn out to be bad if not done correctly and if the opponent uses this as fuel.

Best case scenario is that maybe we can see a Nery vs Casimero fight this year or early next year, I know that it is not yet sure but I think that it is much better to see that kind of fight to see who is more entitled and deserving to face the undisputed champion, considering that Inoue won against Tapales.

And about that "Japanese Turtle" comment, Casimero shouldn't have done and said that because that is just too low and he might get what he deserve in a bad way. I know that he is somehow durable when it comes to receiving powerful punches but he should remember that Inoue is different.

It is maybe possible for him to actually get the fight that he wants in the end. But I don’t think it is going to be easy for him at all. Inoue is feeling really good right now. It is going to be hard for anyone to actually stop him. Hence, if Casimero dares to dream of triumphing over Inoue, he must exert an extraordinary amount of effort. And that’s also if he is even able to get to that fight.

In my perspective, trash talking doesn't pose a significant issue, provided that the fighter possesses the ability to back it up.  I think every fighter should have some trash talking in his repertoire. But you should not go crazy if you are not someone like Conor McGregor or Muhammad Ali, lol.

[carlisle1]

The dude just got a lose after a lose and then this, that's a lot of things for him to absorb and no one probably will remember this but her wife got also some beef with other guy, a beef not an affair.

So whatever is happening to him, I just wish him all the best and hopefully that he's able to overcome all of this. He still wants to fight and get some win before he fully retires.

We are all wishing him to get a win before he finally gets a goodbye to his pro career.

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

I just can't remember if it was with his dad or some other guy.

But he's going through a lot and this makes me wanna see him to have another match and win it. So that if he decides to be convinced that could be his last fight, he's good to retire and forget all of those issues and problems that he's been in.

Especially on this one, a dad and son that has having a beef. This shouldn't be it but we don't know what culture they've been all together but hoping the best.

Better to settle than to create more buzz regarding to this situation, or Donaire can use this as motivation in trying to
prove something. It's also possible that he's just using it to create noise to continue having his name being hype.

We don't know if he's planning to retire, or he's aiming for another fight and win a title before he will end his career. Anything can happen.

It's a business and there are lots of money involved. We can't tell what's the reason is behind but if it's a real deal, hope they will find
way to settle and fix their relations.

[Jating]

The dude just got a lose after a lose and then this, that's a lot of things for him to absorb and no one probably will remember this but her wife got also some beef with other guy, a beef not an affair.

So whatever is happening to him, I just wish him all the best and hopefully that he's able to overcome all of this. He still wants to fight and get some win before he fully retires.

We are all wishing him to get a win before he finally gets a goodbye to his pro career.

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

I just can't remember if it was with his dad or some other guy.

But he's going through a lot and this makes me wanna see him to have another match and win it. So that if he decides to be convinced that could be his last fight, he's good to retire and forget all of those issues and problems that he's been in.

Especially on this one, a dad and son that has having a beef. This shouldn't be it but we don't know what culture they've been all together but hoping the best.

And I guess that's always been the case though? I mean when Nonito Jr got married to Rachel, that's where the problem started. Maybe the older Donaire or some of his family members doesn't like the woman that Nonito Jr get and then with Rachel tries and successfully meddle on Jr's boxing career, everything gets dirty with the father and son duo in boxing.

On other news, I read that Shakur is calling out Loma for fight. I think this is doable, it seems that Haney is going up in weight class. And so a Shakur vs Devin fight might not happen. So the best thing at 135 lbs right now is Loma vs Stevenson as they are both under Top Rank.

[Kemarit]

^^ That is doable fight, both are with TR and Loma wanted to bounce back from a narrowing lost against Devin Haney. On the other hand, Shakur Stevenson might have settled at 135 lbs and so he needs another dance partner to solidify his position at this division.

And if Haney goes up to 135 lbs, then he will vacant his belt and so it will be open up and maybe this fight could be made for at least one of those sanctioning body. Two of the best 135 lbs, very technical, I think it will be a chess match between this two if ever they faces each other.

[Baofeng]

Too early who Shakur is going to fight. There are news that him and Linares are going to fight in Newark for the WBC 135 lbs belt as Haney will vacant it. But there are also news surfacing around that Linares vs Jack Catterall is also in the works.

Of course, a Loma vs Stevenson is a great fight as well and we hope that this fight can be made as Shakur has called the great Loma.

But for now, everything is just a rumor.

[YuginKadoya]

I know this is not going to be profitable or make any sense for some they are just ignoring this fight but for me, I am Trying my luck right now, so here is my pick for this game

Jake Paul VS Nate Diaz

The stake odds for this game are 1.22 for Jake Paul and 4.10 for Nate Diaz, for this fight we all know Nate Diaz from the UFC a former UFC fighter with a great style of stand-up and Jui-Jitsu Well in this match he might have some hidden strategy for Jake Paul against a boxer, and how can he apply his MMA techniques against a boxing match, while Jake Paul the problem child has taken on a lot of MMA fighters in the past so this is not new to him and for this fight against Jake Paul this is going to be a handicap for Nate Diaz, as jake Paul have many wins against an MMA fighter, but against a boxer he is nothing, but because his opponent is a former MMA fighter this is surely a one-sided fight, my pick is surely Jake Paul