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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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December 26, 2022, 11:24:20 AM
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Being in the champions league spot this season will be something very hard to attain this season in England,we now have a big six,probably a big seven or eight and no longer a big six,because so many teams have joined the elite teams.England is so tough and competitive,most teams dive in the transfer window to sign players in England,and that gives them an ample opportunity to challenge the elite teams in England.
Now we have Mancity,Liverpool,Arsenal,Chelsea,Manchester United, Tottenham,and now Newcastle.The later have surprised me this season,losing just one and drawing either four which makes them sit third on the league table. Qualifying for the champions league spot this season will be a hard nut to crack,and I'm sure with the way Newcastle are playing,I am optimistic they will qualify.
Newcastle have played very well this season but i have still doubt on them qualifying for the champions league. Despite the position that they sit currently now in the premier league table, i just feel that before the season is going to end i just feel like their are going to miss out on the champion league spot. The premier is about to kick off the second half of the season  today and Newcastle will be facing an inform Leicester side which will poss a big threat today for Newcastle to win. I think Newcastle and Leicester game is going to be a draw game today.

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December 26, 2022, 11:45:22 AM
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All teams will be stronger in the knockout phase because they have a plan to qualify for the next phase. That's why it's difficult to determine who will win the match because the teams will try to do their best, and sometimes the quality of the team and the players will not determine victory.

I'm not underestimating Bayern Munich, but of course PSG look more likely to win that match. After all, PSG is one of the favorites this season even though in fact they always fail. Bayern Munich have experience, of course that will make them have something more than PSG. Bayern Munich are also favourites, as are Real Madrid and all the other Premier League team to qualify for the last 16.
They must have prepared carefully to qualify for the knockout phase, but I don't agree if the quality of the team and players doesn't determine victory, because this factor is really needed and coupled with experience as well as champion metal. As we can see from Ancelotti's (Real Madrid) team, they are strong in these two advantages, so they can give maximum results.

Bayern Munich will face each other against PSG, so that one of them must be eliminated after two home and away matches took place. Talking about the experience and quality of the players, the two are almost the same, so what makes the difference is the strategy implemented by the coach.

Here I partially agreed with you about the teams and their strength but about Real Madrid you are completely wrong they were not experienced team just Karim Benzema was the star player mostly others were quality and skilled but having not experience which was having teams like PSG, Bayern Munich and Manchester City with their composition was also amazing which give them shocking win in all high tempo games, and they kicked out few top ranked teams without any hassle now things are completely different with injuries and transfers bring changes in teams, and we can expect tough challenge for the title mostly after break first knock out round could be vital, and we will be able to have better update about the winner of the title for the season.

Even many are believing now Real Madrid is not near their best as they have in last year, and we will be having Manchester City or PSG as champions, but still few teams like Napoli and Liverpool can also shock the soccer fans.
Real Madrid has several experienced players in the Champions League, namely Thibaut Courtois, Luka Modric, Toni Kroos and Karim Benzema, these four players are important players in the Real Madrid squad, so it can be said that their experience is quite helpful and adds to the winning mentality they have. Although not all of them are experienced, at least four of them are quite helpful.

But now Manchester City and PSG are also getting solid and tough so they cannot be underestimated in the race for the title. While Napoli and other representatives can also surprise, but I don't think their chances in the Champions League are too big.

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December 26, 2022, 12:53:19 PM
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This era has already arrived. If Mbappe had been promoted as it was with the beginning of Messi's career, then he would already have a 3-4 balloon D'Ors.
As for the results, they are also eloquent: in 2022, Mbappe scored 55 goals in 55 games, and Haaland 43 goals in 41 games. With Mbappe's phenomenal World Cup performance and Haaland's excellent goalscoring schedule for City, it's clear who will compete for the top 1 in the coming years.
I think Kylian Mbappe will never match Messi. Messi's football career has such achievements. If any other player wants to achieve that, he has to become an incomparable player. And Kylian Mbappe plays well but I don't like his personal behavior at all, he is a selfish footballer.

Nobody cares about what you think and the real achievements of the players. It's just a matter of PR. If you are in doubt, try counting the number of Ballon d'Ors that two brilliant players have received over the period 2008-2012. Xavi and Iniesta won two European Championship golds plus the World Championship. I hope you can easily remember how many Ballon d'Ors they got for two?  Grin

What do you mean by if Mbappe had been promoted as Messi he would have won 3-4 Balon d'or? What kind of bs is that? When has Mbappe ever deserved the Balon d'or in his career and has not received it? Has he ever won the champions league? Has he ever won the European golden shoe? What about the uefa best player? Even the world cup France won in 2018, he was not the best player of his team (he won the best young player of the tournament).

Are you trying to use Mbappe to downplay Messi? Have you check what Messi did at 24? How many goals and assist he had at that age?
And this thing you guys do by only considering the highest goal scorers as candidates for balon d'or is funny. There's an award for been the highest goal scorer. Because you're the highest goal scorer doesn't make you the best player in the world. Football is way more than just that.

There has been no point in Mbappe's career yet that he was denied a balon d'or or where he was in a pole position to win the Balon d'or. He'll definitely win it in future at this rate but don't make it look like he has done more than Messi at age 24.

Wow, this dude literally lives in a fantasy world. Can you help me count how many Ballon d'Ors Xavi and Iniesta won between 2008-2012?  Grin

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December 26, 2022, 01:01:20 PM
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I won’t dispute the fact that Real Madrid are very good in the champions league and outperforms any other team in that league. It is the league of champions so we expect every team to be at their expertise there. Real Madrid have proved to be champions not once or twice but 14 times, this is a sign that they’re just good at the champions league football. When Real Madrid is not eliminated in the champions league before the finals, I don’t see them losing the final again to any team.
Real madrid is the defending champion, they deserve to enter the strongest dominance of any other team, be it Bayern Munich or PSG. However, the situation will change quickly if the defending champion is unable to provide good enough resistance in each of the upcoming matches. Real madrid will face liverpool in the last 16 of the champions league on 22/2. For Real Madrid, their quality in the Champions League this season is quite good after managing to become the strongest in the group phase and progressing smoothly into the round of 16. liverpool is also performing well in the champions league this season. so the match between real madrid vs liverpool is going to be quite fierce it seems.

Jurgen kloop may be very focused on their energy for the champions league this season where after their chances in the domestic league have failed in the hunt for the title, kloop will prioritize every match to win in the Champions league.

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December 26, 2022, 02:17:48 PM
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Real madrid is the defending champion, they deserve to enter the strongest dominance of any other team, be it Bayern Munich or PSG. However, the situation will change quickly if the defending champion is unable to provide good enough resistance in each of the upcoming matches. Real madrid will face liverpool in the last 16 of the champions league on 22/2. For Real Madrid, their quality in the Champions League this season is quite good after managing to become the strongest in the group phase and progressing smoothly into the round of 16. liverpool is also performing well in the champions league this season. so the match between real madrid vs liverpool is going to be quite fierce it seems.

Jurgen kloop may be very focused on their energy for the champions league this season where after their chances in the domestic league have failed in the hunt for the title, kloop will prioritize every match to win in the Champions league.

As we heard recently, Real madrid is hunting for several players to strengthen their squad. however, it appears that Real Madrid are in no rush to replace Benzema. So far, what has been rumored with Madrid is only bringing in a midfielder. as we know, Madrid is the defending champion. they have a winning mentality that their competitors, namely, Manchester City and PSG do not have. even though Madrid is not too favorite, but after all they are a strong team.

As for Liverpool, this season was the worst season for Jurgen Klopp and his troops, their performance was far from the expectations of The Red fans. currently Liverpool is ranked 6th in the domestic league standings, before preparing its troops for the round of 16 match later. Like it or not, Klopp must first focus on the Premier League competition. but by the way, Liverpool still have a chance to win the fight against Madrid in the round of 16 later. moreover, they have a home game in the first leg. I'm sure this match will be no less exciting, like the PSG vs Bayern game.

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December 26, 2022, 02:28:42 PM
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Newcastle have played very well this season but i have still doubt on them qualifying for the champions league. Despite the position that they sit currently now in the premier league table, i just feel that before the season is going to end i just feel like their are going to miss out on the champion league spot. The premier is about to kick off the second half of the season  today and Newcastle will be facing an inform Leicester side which will poss a big threat today for Newcastle to win. I think Newcastle and Leicester game is going to be a draw game today.
It's too early to judge newcastle has no chance to be qualified. I think that you must see how newcastle has been traforming into the new thing in EPL. It's a great club right now. I just wanna see saint will be making newcastle become a very strong team.
Newcastle itself has been walking in the right way. Leicester has been performing so bad since early season and it has no chance to win against newcastle which has been coming with a new power since new investors were taking over it.
No chance for leicester. newcastile will win easily without any doubt.

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December 26, 2022, 02:55:39 PM
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Being in the champions league spot this season will be something very hard to attain this season in England,we now have a big six,probably a big seven or eight and no longer a big six,because so many teams have joined the elite teams.England is so tough and competitive,most teams dive in the transfer window to sign players in England,and that gives them an ample opportunity to challenge the elite teams in England.
Now we have Mancity,Liverpool,Arsenal,Chelsea,Manchester United, Tottenham,and now Newcastle.The later have surprised me this season,losing just one and drawing either four which makes them sit third on the league table. Qualifying for the champions league spot this season will be a hard nut to crack,and I'm sure with the way Newcastle are playing,I am optimistic they will qualify.
Newcastle have played very well this season but i have still doubt on them qualifying for the champions league. Despite the position that they sit currently now in the premier league table, i just feel that before the season is going to end i just feel like their are going to miss out on the champion league spot. The premier is about to kick off the second half of the season  today and Newcastle will be facing an inform Leicester side which will poss a big threat today for Newcastle to win. I think Newcastle and Leicester game is going to be a draw game today.
Newcastle are doing well this season but I'm not sure if the can win the Champions League or even the Premier league because their other strong teams that are more solid I'm performance than newcastle.  Their is no doubt about Newcastle improvement,  it may not be easy to get the Champions league.

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December 26, 2022, 04:00:23 PM
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Newcastle have played very well this season but i have still doubt on them qualifying for the champions league. Despite the position that they sit currently now in the premier league table, i just feel that before the season is going to end i just feel like their are going to miss out on the champion league spot. The premier is about to kick off the second half of the season  today and Newcastle will be facing an inform Leicester side which will poss a big threat today for Newcastle to win. I think Newcastle and Leicester game is going to be a draw game today.
It's too early to judge newcastle has no chance to be qualified. I think that you must see how newcastle has been traforming into the new thing in EPL. It's a great club right now. I just wanna see saint will be making newcastle become a very strong team.
Newcastle itself has been walking in the right way. Leicester has been performing so bad since early season and it has no chance to win against newcastle which has been coming with a new power since new investors were taking over it.
No chance for leicester. newcastile will win easily without any doubt.
Currently Newcastle are 3 goals ahead of Leicester in their first match in the Premier League. If this score lasts until the end of the game, then they will shift position from Manchester City for a while before Manchester City do their match.
Talking about Newcastle's chances of qualifying for the Champions League next season. I see their opportunities are wide open now, even though it will still be a long journey for them. But if Newcastle can maintain their consistency in every match, then they will be able to get 1 ticket to go to the Champions League. Indeed since being taken over by a new club president they have been much better off financially, and that is one of the reasons we see them improving now.

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December 26, 2022, 04:12:06 PM
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Currently Newcastle are 3 goals ahead of Leicester in their first match in the Premier League. If this score lasts until the end of the game, then they will shift position from Manchester City for a while before Manchester City do their match.
Talking about Newcastle's chances of qualifying for the Champions League next season. I see their opportunities are wide open now, even though it will still be a long journey for them. But if Newcastle can maintain their consistency in every match, then they will be able to get 1 ticket to go to the Champions League. Indeed since being taken over by a new club president they have been much better off financially, and that is one of the reasons we see them improving now.
That is too early to predict the result - while we made so many predictions for FIFA - most of them failed at the early stages.
So let wait for some time and see how this league unfolds and we can make our prediction before the start of the event

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December 26, 2022, 04:18:31 PM
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I think PSG is more likely to win the game against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich is no doubt a strong team that has great capable players capable of scoring goals.
But we should take a look at the form which PSG currently is on at the moment. They’ve got bright players who has probably gotten more experienced with the just concluded World Cup. PSG has a lot of stars on its squad. Stars that also has years of experience on their belt.
PSG looks more superior to win the match because of the star players they have. One of the quality players bayern Munich has is to be Mane is not in a good shape.
 Because of the quality players PSG has I expect them to win the game against Bayern Munich.
Both teams have important star names. So clearly one team is not ahead. In my opinion, Paris SG looks far superior thanks to its offensive power. They have an offensive line made up of the best players from the Argentina, France and Brazil national teams. This makes them stand out. However, Bayern Munich is not a simple team and if they put their strength on the field, they have a chance to win the match.

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December 26, 2022, 05:02:09 PM
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It is interesting to see that there are still people who think that it was all just luck about Real Madrid's Champions League title in the previous season.

even if I was a hater of Real Madrid and I wouldn't have said that, it¹s not like this Real Madrid's first time winning the CL, they proved it multiple times that they are the kings of this trophy, on the other hand we see other teams like Man City and PSG with top notch players fail multiple seasons in a row.
Madrid has been winning UCL 14 times. There's no need to response those people. Madrid has been telling us about the truth if that was a club that has been dominating UCL and AC milan was on the second position 7 times winning UCL trophies and those dumb people may still call madrid only lucky enough to win 14 times UCL trophies in a row.
In the UCL we have seen many teams on the rise and that have managed to position themselves very well in the competition, but it is as they say, Madrid has 14 big ears, and the truth is that the level that Real Madrid has shown in football has been superior to all the others. teams, because they won the UCL cup for a reason, it's not by chance, and they want to continue winning it and I think they can do it, because at the rate they continue to go, they can do it, however, I don't like to make predictions where after I have I have to hide my tongue, but if they continue with Ancelotti, they will hardly lose, they would have to have a very bad game and lose due to very bad luck, which is something that happens a lot.

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Real Madrid player’s transfer chances hurt by Atletico Madrid exit



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Real Madrid do not have much depth in certain positions on the pitch. One of them is striker. Karim Benzema is a world-class player and the reigning Ballon d’Or winner. But beyond him, there are no real cover options for Los Blancos, with Mariano Diaz the only other recognised forward in the squad and he seems completely out of Carlo Ancelotti’s plans at the moment.

Thus, Mariano leaving in January would not be a blow for Real Madrid, especially with Ancelotti preferring to use Rodrygo in a false nine role.

Source: https://therealchamps.com/2022/12/26/real-madrid-transfer-atletico-exit/

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December 26, 2022, 05:04:57 PM
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Real madrid owes the CL title last season to Benzema. She has already helped her to victory from a beaten position a few times. But we shouldn't sell the other Real Madrid players short because of that, they have a great team. Without Modric, the world would also look very different for Real Madrid. Since ramos left the back to PSG, it also seems to be a bit more vulnerable and they do get the necessary goals here and there. But that depends on the type of game they play. Things can go either way against Liverpool, I find it difficult to point out a clear favorite there.

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December 26, 2022, 05:13:19 PM
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The difference between Real Madrid and the other big title contenders is that Real Madrid don't need to change their squad very often. Because they are still able to win the Champions League thanks to the right game strategies they have had so far. Real Madrid have been managed by completely fitting managers so far and this has helped them stay strong like every season. You know that Real Madrid have signed Tchouameni and Rüdiger in the previous transfer window and that was all in fact.

They are still fighting strongly not only in the La Liga but also the Champions League. They are one of the dangerous title contenders here as always. Manchester City and PSG are fighting for their first titles but they had better be careful about not being eliminated by Real Madrid again.

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December 26, 2022, 05:15:32 PM
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Being in the champions league spot this season will be something very hard to attain this season in England,we now have a big six,probably a big seven or eight and no longer a big six,because so many teams have joined the elite teams.England is so tough and competitive,most teams dive in the transfer window to sign players in England,and that gives them an ample opportunity to challenge the elite teams in England.
Now we have Mancity,Liverpool,Arsenal,Chelsea,Manchester United, Tottenham,and now Newcastle.The later have surprised me this season,losing just one and drawing either four which makes them sit third on the league table. Qualifying for the champions league spot this season will be a hard nut to crack,and I'm sure with the way Newcastle are playing,I am optimistic they will qualify.
Newcastle have played very well this season but i have still doubt on them qualifying for the champions league. Despite the position that they sit currently now in the premier league table, i just feel that before the season is going to end i just feel like their are going to miss out on the champion league spot. The premier is about to kick off the second half of the season  today and Newcastle will be facing an inform Leicester side which will poss a big threat today for Newcastle to win. I think Newcastle and Leicester game is going to be a draw game today.
There are still quite a lot of games now and as for qualifying or not I think it's still a very good achievement for Newcastle this season to make a splash.
Even though there are many who still doubt Newcastle's current condition, but I think with their current performance, don't be too sure about their condition, they won't finish in the top 4 because the chances are still big, but even if it doesn't happen in the top 6, replacing Leicester's position, I think that's also very good for them.

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December 26, 2022, 05:16:06 PM
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I am not entirely sure that core Barcelona has would be enough. Like players such as pedri, gavi, dembele, de jong, ansu fati, etc etc these are good players but they will never be at the levels of the times when xavi, iniesta and messi played which means that they are not going to get the same championships and titles neither.
I believe it will be difficult, and perhaps impossible for Dembele, Pedri and Gavi to match the same achievements as Messi, Xavi and Iniestas, and I wouldn't compare either. But I think when Barcelona has more faith in its academy players than a lot of non-academiy players then success can be expected. At the moment Barcelona is on another level, but of course the philosophy of the game is almost the same. Xavi gives a different touch because basically he is developing something great from his young players like Pedri and Gavi in ​​midfield. They didn't have much experience yet, but if both of them held on for the long term then surely the level would be better.

Currently, Ansu Fati, who was expected to be able to contribute a lot, apparently failed to meet expectations. He's still young and maybe Xavi doesn't want to push him while giving him a chance to develop. This can be done through hard training because Ansu Fati is still unable to compete with Ferran and the others.

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I don't think that any team that qualifies for the Round of 16 should be underestimated. Especially a team like Tottenham. They are sitting at the fourth place of the Premiership and I'm sure that Milan won't have an easy game against them.
Actually, in the knockout phase this time, Tottenham has quite an advantage because they will face Milan. Even though we know that Milan is a subscriber to the Champions League, their condition is not very good now.
There are many internal problems that they haven't solved until now so it's a little complicated for them. On the other hand, Conte clearly knows what tactics to use when he meets a Serie A team and some of their new players are quite good, this is clearly a very differentiating thing for Milan.

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Newcastle are doing well this season but I'm not sure if the can win the Champions League or even the Premier league because their other strong teams that are more solid I'm performance than newcastle.  Their is no doubt about Newcastle improvement,  it may not be easy to get the Champions league.
We will soon see Newcastle appear in the Champions League after showing the best form in the Premier League. Newcastle is struggling to finish in the top four to take a place to play in the Champions League next season, as a newcomer to the most competitive league on European soil, it is very difficult for Newcastle to immediately win the UCL trophy. It takes a process for Newcastle to go further in the UCL, it takes a team balance and being able to compete with other top teams to become champions in the UCL.

Newcastle's revival has posed a threat to regular clubs in the Champions League, Newcastle's rise has posed a threat to regular Champions League clubs, Chelsea, Manchester United and Liverpool are still outside the Champions League zone in the Premier League standings. We may not see one or all three of these teams in the Champions League next season if Arsenal, Manchester City, Newcastle and Tottenham manage to maintain their positions in the top four in the table.

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The difference between Real Madrid and the other big title contenders is that Real Madrid don't need to change their squad very often. Because they are still able to win the Champions League thanks to the right game strategies they have had so far. Real Madrid have been managed by completely fitting managers so far and this has helped them stay strong like every season. You know that Real Madrid have signed Tchouameni and Rüdiger in the previous transfer window and that was all in fact.

They are still fighting strongly not only in the La Liga but also the Champions League. They are one of the dangerous title contenders here as always. Manchester City and PSG are fighting for their first titles but they had better be careful about not being eliminated by Real Madrid again.

Real Madrid has been very consistent since last season's champions league. They signed a few quality players in the past transfer window but I am not sure the club is as strong as it was last season. The clubs seem to have over-relied on Karim Benzema his absence is greatly felt. Borja Mayoral and Juanmi Latasa are very good strikers that could fill the gap but currently, they are not capable of replacing the world's best player. The lack of a natural and effective goalscorer might be their biggest undoing. I don't Real Madrid making it to the semifinals of the UCL.

I am predicting that an English club or Napoli might be the winner of this competition. Most of the English teams that qualified except Chelsea are in good shape. I am also considering Napoli because of their performance before the world cup which was one of the best in the club's history. They are still unbeaten in the Italian Serie A.

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December 26, 2022, 05:52:30 PM
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Both teams have important star names. So clearly one team is not ahead. In my opinion, Paris SG looks far superior thanks to its offensive power. They have an offensive line made up of the best players from the Argentina, France and Brazil national teams. This makes them stand out. However, Bayern Munich is not a simple team and if they put their strength on the field, they have a chance to win the match.
Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, it's something any coach of the two might explore.
PSG's strengths so far have been evenly distributed across the pitch, but I tend to think they haven't been able to control enough when under pressure. I've seen them fail in this way several times in the decider like they did in the last 2 seasons, and now they need to learn. We know Bayern Munich's strength even though they aren't too favored, but PSG must be very careful if they want to qualify for the quarter-finals.

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December 26, 2022, 05:58:21 PM
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If Mbappe wants to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, he has to leave PSG. The league is too weak and league titles there are meaningless.

He wants to go to Madrid, but I feel that the Messi/Ronaldo kind of rivalry will happen between him and Haaland. I hope we see them in the same league soon (preferably Premiership).

The thing with Ronaldo and Messi is also that they lasted 15+ years on an elite, record-breaking levels.
Mbappe and Haaland have just started, they have to play at the same level they are playing now throughout their whole careers to be able to compare to either one of them.
I don't think the french league is such a weak league because I have heard several person sat the same. The french league is just spectacular in its own way. We already see a rivalry coming up between Haaland and Mbappe who are the current best attackers in the world now and as time goes by it will grow into something bigger and I'm sure it will push them to do better just as it worked with Ronaldo and Messi.
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