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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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December 30, 2022, 02:25:47 AM
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Chelsea is overall a good team, it's just a bit about the turmoil they went through which caused a little bit of trouble and now they are getting back to normal.
They already have good players, good team and likely a good coach too. They don't have to buy new players to be a good team but with chaos in their club, they might need a little bit time to bring everything back to normality, a new normality under a new owner.

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Remember, there was a period last year where they couldn't even feel sure about going to their games because their assets were frozen due to ownership sanctions, and they still did it with permissions and all but no team would be great when there is a discussion about them having their assets frozen like that. They have a totally new owner now and they are doing much better but that doesn't change the fact that they are doing something much better in the long run which is all that matters.
This chaos results in uncertainty in their clubs and their players had uncertainty about their future which affected their minds and performances too. Now it looks like things are not too bad for Chelsea and their players. It would be time for their players to actually fight for big aims in this season. Top four in Premier League is important and must be achieved. If they fail with this mission, many players will be sold in the summer transfer.

Champions League is so competitive but Chelsea can fight and in the past, they suddenly won two Champions League. They can repeat it even in this chaotic season.

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December 30, 2022, 03:08:31 AM
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Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.
I can't use the match against bournemouth as measurement. Chelsea has not yet back to the best performance. I meant we shall see the result between chelsea against manchester city. The match wiil be coming in january.
There will be two matches in EPL and FA cup. We will get two match as judgement for performance of chelsea after world cup. I hope that there will be significant increase like chelsea will able to beat city two times.


Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.  Smiley
I don't even think like that. Dortmund has been losing some players. There will be so many changes in the club to happen. I see that chelsea can take it as opportunity to win against dortmund. Im sure that dortmund's formation will be changing again.
that means the new players will have needed to build a new relationship and chemistry

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December 30, 2022, 03:22:48 AM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

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December 30, 2022, 05:38:10 AM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.
Chelsea has used that FIFA world cup competition to prepared very well because, they really displayed well in the premier league game that made them to achieved 3 points in the first game which they will surely apply the same skills to beat Dortmund 2:1. Dortmund will score a goal from this game but it will be difficult for them to win Chelsea like the way they used to disgrace other strong teams with many goals.

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December 30, 2022, 07:24:32 AM
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Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.

Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.  Smiley
not only Chelsea, but almost all clubs are on holiday due to the world cup break, they even perform well, especially now that Chelsea is involved in competition for Borussia Dortmund player Youssoufa Moukoko, in the January 2023 Premier League Transfer Market.
This 18-year-old centre-forward is considered one of the most promising strikers in European football, of course that will help Chelsea play well against Dortmund later in the last 16 of the champions league

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December 30, 2022, 10:00:36 AM
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Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.
Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.  Smiley
not only Chelsea, but almost all clubs are on holiday due to the world cup break, they even perform well, especially now that Chelsea is involved in competition for Borussia Dortmund player Youssoufa Moukoko, in the January 2023 Premier League Transfer Market.
This 18-year-old centre-forward is considered one of the most promising strikers in European football, of course that will help Chelsea play well against Dortmund later in the last 16 of the champions league

We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

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December 30, 2022, 10:28:33 AM
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Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.
Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.  Smiley
not only Chelsea, but almost all clubs are on holiday due to the world cup break, they even perform well, especially now that Chelsea is involved in competition for Borussia Dortmund player Youssoufa Moukoko, in the January 2023 Premier League Transfer Market.
This 18-year-old centre-forward is considered one of the most promising strikers in European football, of course that will help Chelsea play well against Dortmund later in the last 16 of the champions league

We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.
there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund  Wink

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December 30, 2022, 10:53:27 AM
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We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

The last five marches between Burrusia Dortmund was balanced. Chelsea won two and Dortmund one two and they drew one. There are speculations of Dortmund losing some of their key players before the march on February 5th. Jude Bellingham is a key target of Real Madrid and Liverpool. While Youssoufa Moukoko is been linked  to Manchester United. We are seeing the Chelsea team going through some reinforcement through new signings and a prospect of even signing mnoe players.

Hopefully, Reece James would be in the march after recovering from his injury. From my current performance, I am speculating that Chelsea would win the match comfortably.

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December 30, 2022, 11:11:24 AM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

Chelsea have been extremely unstable this season, but Dortmund are no better. Looking behind which teams both clubs are in the domestic leagues, Chelsea have a much more solid list of names than Dortmund. I also hope to see an equal fight in this pair with more goals, but the likelihood that Dortmund will fail and perform worse than their average level is higher.

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December 30, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.
Chelsea has used that FIFA world cup competition to prepared very well because, they really displayed well in the premier league game that made them to achieved 3 points in the first game which they will surely apply the same skills to beat Dortmund 2:1. Dortmund will score a goal from this game but it will be difficult for them to win Chelsea like the way they used to disgrace other strong teams with many goals.


Will the match between Dortmund v Chelsea in the Champions League be held this week? So that the final result that occurred in the match between Chelsea v Bournemouth yesterday in the English Premier League, you make it a reference for the match which in reality will just be played in mid-February 2023. Because even to reach the match between Dortmund v Chelsea in the Champions League there is still time at least a month more, so the results that occurred this week for the Chelsea match clearly cannot be used as any reference.
Even though there will also be a transfer window that will open in January, this will certainly make them also make a small overhaul in their squad.

So for me, it's clear that to predict Dortmund and Chelsea it's not enough only with the final results of the matches that are happening right now. But indeed, both at this moment do not seem to have a significant difference in the quality of their performance so far this season.
So of course, any result can happen, because Chelsea is still very unstable under the new coach and because of this instability, Chelsea could play well or maybe play very badly in the match later.

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December 30, 2022, 11:37:32 AM
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The last five marches between Burrusia Dortmund was balanced. Chelsea won two and Dortmund one two and they drew one. There are speculations of Dortmund losing some of their key players before the march on February 5th. Jude Bellingham is a key target of Real Madrid and Liverpool. While Youssoufa Moukoko is been linked  to Manchester United. We are seeing the Chelsea team going through some reinforcement through new signings and a prospect of even signing mnoe players.
Will Marco Reus be ready for the match with Chelsea? In general, Chelsea are better in quality and they have more players at word class level than Dortmund. Players in Dortmund are either too young like Moukoko or old already like Hummels, Reus. Jude Bellingham had a good World Cup 2022 but he is young and can not carry Dortmund in all matches. He is also a midfielder, not a striker and can not really help Dortmund to win matches by his goals.

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Hopefully, Reece James would be in the march after recovering from his injury. From my current performance, I am speculating that Chelsea would win the match comfortably.
Reece James is a very strong swing back and with him, Chelsea will have a good swing back who can help them to have balance between attacking and defense. Reece is very good to support attacking system too.

I don't even think like that. Dortmund has been losing some players. There will be so many changes in the club to happen. I see that chelsea can take it as opportunity to win against dortmund. Im sure that dortmund's formation will be changing again.
Dortmund always lose their star players to big clubs, to Bayern, Real Madrid, Chelsea and others. Chelsea are more experienced in Champions League than Dortmund. They won two trophies and usually go farther each season in Champions League.

I believe Chesea will win against Dortmund after all and go to quarter final.

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December 30, 2022, 12:14:40 PM
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So for me, it's clear that to predict Dortmund and Chelsea it's not enough only with the final results of the matches that are happening right now. But indeed, both at this moment do not seem to have a significant difference in the quality of their performance so far this season.
So of course, any result can happen, because Chelsea is still very unstable under the new coach and because of this instability, Chelsea could play well or maybe play very badly in the match later.
The match will be held in 1.5 months, meaning there are 45 days for both teams to prepare for the match, both of them have the same opportunity, Chelsea are still struggling to improve any deficiencies in their squad as well as Dortmund who are no better than their opponents later and results in the league can be very different in the Champions League and that provides an opportunity for both of them to achieve results better than those achieved in the local league

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December 30, 2022, 12:40:03 PM
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there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund  Wink
Chelsea and Dortmund both have something in common this season, namely not being in the top 4 of the standings in their respective regular leagues and this will make the match for the two teams in the champions league even more exciting, considering the depth of the squad which has similar things so this will be quite a match balanced. Contrary to those of you who bet on Chelsea, I will bet on Dortmund in the round of 16 later because for the first leg Dortmund are the hosts and will definitely have the advantage of playing at home plus getting the support of the fans. Smiley

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December 30, 2022, 01:30:39 PM
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We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

The last five marches between Burrusia Dortmund was balanced. Chelsea won two and Dortmund one two and they drew one. There are speculations of Dortmund losing some of their key players before the march on February 5th. Jude Bellingham is a key target of Real Madrid and Liverpool. While Youssoufa Moukoko is been linked  to Manchester United. We are seeing the Chelsea team going through some reinforcement through new signings and a prospect of even signing mnoe players.

Hopefully, Reece James would be in the march after recovering from his injury. From my current performance, I am speculating that Chelsea would win the match comfortably.

When it comes to Europe top teams and club you cannot rate Dortmund over Chelsea. Even if they seem balanced right that game will still see Chelsea winning that game. Jude Bellingham has been linked away while Kudus if Ghana has been linked to replace him at Borrussia Dortmund. Moukoko hasn't been signed by Dortmund yet? Man United are linked to David Jonathan lately that's the updated news.
He is a good player, Recce James should be back, I don't know what is lacking and wrong with Chelsea medical team,  why didn't they nurse his Injury very well.

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December 30, 2022, 02:08:00 PM
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there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund  Wink

IMO, I see that Potter is still doing experiments for the right formation and strategy for his squad. Graham Potter's team haven't shown their best performance yet, that's why Potter is still doing some experiments for the most appropriate formation. and as we all know, that the second half of the season has just begun. Potter still has plenty of time to prepare his squad for the round of 16 match later, while also waiting for several of his players to recover from their injuries.

As for Dortmund, Edin Terzic's troops are having a bad season in their domestic league competition and are not much different from the current state of Chelsea. even reportedly, some of their star players will leave at the end of this season. for sure, we cannot compare or predict this match later. because anything can still happen, Dortmund also still has the opportunity to improve their performance. the round of 16 match will still have a long time lag, which is certain that these two teams will prepare their troops for the match later.

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December 30, 2022, 02:16:12 PM
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Chelsea has better chance of winning Dortmund, no matter that Chelsea has been messing up before the world cup break doesn't mean you should underestimate them. When it comes to Champions league,they take their matches serious because there is a target which is the cup.

EPL is different from the UCL, EPL is one of the most toughest league that a player needs strength and stamina to survive, Dortmund is a different club which don't play the English style of football. UCL is more bigger than EPL and clubs performance in their various league should not be used to judge the UCL games

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December 30, 2022, 02:19:42 PM
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Chelsea have been extremely unstable this season, but Dortmund are no better. Looking behind which teams both clubs are in the domestic leagues, Chelsea have a much more solid list of names than Dortmund. I also hope to see an equal fight in this pair with more goals, but the likelihood that Dortmund will fail and perform worse than their average level is higher.
I doubt with the performance from chelsea. This club didn't have any striker that was contributing a lot to the club. I would not even count aubameyang as striker for chelsea caused by he did nothing for the club. It can be considered as failed transfer for chelsea to sign him. The problem will be also happening with dortmund. There have been many rumours about various big clubs interested to sign some of key players. that will be greatly affecting the performance from dortmund.
That will make both chelsea and dortmund will be on the unstable condition once they were facing in the UCL match in february. I hope that chelsea will be winning the match against dortmund in the first leg.

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December 30, 2022, 02:30:49 PM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.
Both team between Chelsea and Dortmund having underperformance right now and seems Chelsea is better with Primer League begin early than Bundesliga still waiting few weeks later, having impact with Dortmund need recovering and have few weeks for UEFA Champion League 16 round begin. Still not having top performance for Dortmund in this season actually after dropping to 6th standing position.

Still can changed with favorite team will lead to next round because few days later window transfer opening, between Dortmund and Chelsea which one team most compete and active in window transfer will help their achievement in Champion League, seems Chelsea have busy in this window transfer than Dortmund never have any rumor yet for recruiting new player.

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December 30, 2022, 02:46:40 PM
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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.
Depends on how they are going to be by that time. The reality is that Dortmund hasn't shown any recovery at all and they are still not anywhere near where they should be in Bundesliga, meaning they are still not playing great.

But, if we are talking about a team that could be beating them, then Chelsea is a great candidate for it because they are playing a lot better if you look at their current form compared to start of the season as well. I know it's not easy to separate the two from each other, but Chelsea of the last 4-5 games and Chelsea of the first 10 games is not the same team and that could be the difference maker between them.
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Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.
Both teams have a very good attack, but in defense I think Chelsea should have an advantage. I suppose that Chelsea can win their home match and draw with Dortmund away, in general I think that Chelsea is stronger than Dortmund at the moment. And the fact that Chelsea will play the first match away is to some extent also an advantage, because they will play the second match at home. Let's see, the Premier League teams are already playing, and the Bendesliga is still resting, this is also not good for Dortmund.

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