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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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January 06, 2023, 09:59:20 PM
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I don't see any problem in attacking side of PSG team. Messi joined the team after winning the World Cup, hope Messi will play well in the next matches and Mbappe and Neymar will support him well. However, PSG's defense has some serious problems, if they are corrected, their team will be very strong.
We will not know until we will see the result after messi will be playing against the next team. It seems like that so many fans were using messi as the reason why PSG was losing against lens too. Messi will be actually playing against bayern. Bayern itself is slowly restructuring the team. I meant look at how bayern was also trying to build the defensive line become even stronger. Bayern was moving so fast after it must face the truth some of main starter line already injured. that was forcing bayern to get the new players as soon as possible. It seems like that bayern will become the hardest opponent for PSG even though bayern didn't have world class player that played for bayern
PSG have a star studded team at their disposal, they also have one of the best attack in the whole of Europe, Mbappe, Neymar and Messi were very instrumental for their national teams in the world cup, Messi and Mbappe made it to the finals and Messi won the world cup so hopefully this form they displayed in the World Cup will be repeated in the domestic league and champions league for PSG. They need to work on their defense and create stability to make the team solid.

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January 06, 2023, 10:58:49 PM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.

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January 06, 2023, 11:56:51 PM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.
i think that PSG have a decent defense, i'm not sure they can bring better players, you could name Van Dijk but i don't think he will be willing to leave Liverpool, i think their defense need chemistry and a better plan and this is the coach's job, to be honest i'm not happy at all with the managers PSG had so far, they just are more focused on bringing more players.

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January 07, 2023, 01:34:54 AM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.
i think that PSG have a decent defense, i'm not sure they can bring better players, you could name Van Dijk but i don't think he will be willing to leave Liverpool, i think their defense need chemistry and a better plan and this is the coach's job, to be honest i'm not happy at all with the managers PSG had so far, they just are more focused on bringing more players.

The problem is that neymar and messi arent running so other players need to run for them . I dont think they can being Van Dijk he probobly wont leave Liverpool that is playing in the premier league and in champions league aswell. PSG still needs more players in defence and needs to find before transfer window ends

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January 07, 2023, 02:21:38 AM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.
I think that people shall understand that if messi was not everything in PSG. The fact that if this is football that being played by 11 players. That means if the absence from messi did small contribution. The messi itself will never able to play the game. That is not the game for messi but PSG.
As far as i know that PSG has so many superstars and it doesn't make sense if the fans were using the absence from messi and neymar as excuses. The quality from the club will be tested here.
If that was a perfect club and then it doesn't matter a lot whether messi was playing or not. It seems like that PSG must try to do so many improvements.

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January 07, 2023, 02:40:30 AM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.
They meet in the next month which means PSG still have much time to prepare the squad and strategy especially their attacker, Messi, and Mbappe. We can't also compare it with the friendly or their match on Ligue 1 because this is the Champions League, where The club and squad dream to be champions. We know Bayern now is look different after Lewa left which maybe a bit easy to PSG win or at least make a draw on Bayern home. but again, when we are talking about mentally, of corse Byaern have mauch than PSG which I thing be the big problem for Messi and friends.

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January 07, 2023, 03:35:40 AM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.
They meet in the next month which means PSG still have much time to prepare the squad and strategy especially their attacker, Messi, and Mbappe. We can't also compare it with the friendly or their match on Ligue 1 because this is the Champions League, where The club and squad dream to be champions. We know Bayern now is look different after Lewa left which maybe a bit easy to PSG win or at least make a draw on Bayern home. but again, when we are talking about mentally, of corse Byaern have mauch than PSG which I thing be the big problem for Messi and friends.

It's bad when a club depends on a few players, while within the club they have a lot of names of very high quality players. It can't be denied that names like Messi, Mbappe and Neymar are star players, but that doesn't mean they have to rely on these players.
In the match against Paris Saint Germain later, they have to change what is now their weakness, and they also have to anticipate the absence of their main players, because something bad could happen to them ahead of the match.
They are very ambitious to win this Champions League, but I want to see how they will channel their ambition.

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January 07, 2023, 05:05:23 AM
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The problem is that neymar and messi arent running so other players need to run for them . I dont think they can being Van Dijk he probobly wont leave Liverpool that is playing in the premier league and in champions league aswell. PSG still needs more players in defence and needs to find before transfer window ends
PSG doesn't really need new defenders, actually they're don't need any new player since they currently have many good players. It's true Kimpembe and Mendes are currently injured, but they will back in the mid and late February, so they both can able participate in Champions League.

What PSG need here is the manager need to bound his club and discuss about each personal player problem since it looks like Mbappe is hating Messi. Messi might be professional and wouldn't take any personal problem during in field, but Mbappe will not pass to Messi even Messi has a chance to make a goal, Mbappe will shoot by himself even there's 2-3 players can block his ball.
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Chelsea has too many problems at the moment. I'm not sure about their current performance to be able to compete at least for the top 4 of the standings. right now the mid-table of the Premier League is quite tight. if Chelsea doesn't make improvements to their squad, there will be quite a lot of injured players. I'm afraid they won't be in the Champions League next season. even for the game against Dortmund, it will be tough enough for Chelsea.
The game with Chelsea was a serious test for the Potter team, in fact they showed that now they can't play on equal terms with a strong opponent. There are 10 points to the Champions League zone, I don’t know if it’s possible to win back such a gap in half a season. The day after tomorrow Chelsea will again play with City in a cup match, I doubt that anything will change for Chelsea in this match. And after that they will have two matches with Fulham and Crystal Palace, in these games they must get points, there is nowhere to retreat.
Chelsea actually tried to do something in the City match, but the serious quality difference between their squads was felt throughout the match.  However, Manchester City has not been able to fully reflect its strength.  Even though they couldn't play exactly the game they wanted, 3 points of 1-0 was enough to give them what they wanted.

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January 07, 2023, 05:53:49 AM
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A lot of people think that Messi's absence is consummately the cause of Psg unfriendly match results, but in my own opinion, I will say it's not. Messi's absence only contributes a little, and that's in the attacking arm. if PSG reduces dependency on the attack and so focuses on making the defense as powerful as the attack, it will yield a better result for them. But currently, the management hasn't made enough plans on bringing in a new defender, and this may affect their subsequent matches, Maybe then Messi will not be blamed.

This is true, I think the presence of Messi has helped the performance of PSG team especially in the attacking line but the problem affecting PSG right now since Messi is not back in the team is poor defence, The attack of PSG has been solid it has been the major reason behind the success of PSG but until the management bring a change in the defensiveline by bringing more defenders in the team regardless to assist Sergio Ramos which has been on injury since arriving the French side the team will still continue to struggle when the attacking line is weak or the players are in poor form.

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January 07, 2023, 05:59:06 AM
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In my opinion, Chelsea made a huge mistake sacking Thomas Tuchel at the beginning of the season. It is true that the team was struggling at the moment and needed some changes to the situation. Thomas Tuchel should have been given more time after all he has proven to be worthy winning the league abd the champions league, he deserved to be given that benefit of doubt that he could still turn things around.
The Chelsea side were too hasty about a change of coach and the result is they are now falling deeper into the regular league. I'm not attacking Potter, but I think Graham Potter is the worst coach replacement at the moment, we know he doesn't even have any experience other than coaching Brighton and several other small teams, while Thomas Tuchel has already given Chelsea the UCL title and several trophies at big clubs others he has coached. I'm not sure Chelsea can qualify for this top 16 phase, considering that they always appear with poor performances.
It's not right to make hasty decisions about Potter.  He may not have much experience, but I think he played successful matches in the teams he managed.  I think he can do better after getting to know the team and in an adaptation period for Chelsea.
It's true that everything needs adaptation and process for every new coach, but when it comes to a big name club like Chelsea, of course, many of their fans don't accept that their favorite club experiences a decline in performance every week. In the regular league competition they are in the middle of the standings and in the UCL competition they have to fight Dortmund in the last 16, Graham potter's homework this season has been very tough.

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January 07, 2023, 06:04:52 AM
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In my opinion, Chelsea made a huge mistake sacking Thomas Tuchel at the beginning of the season. It is true that the team was struggling at the moment and needed some changes to the situation. Thomas Tuchel should have been given more time after all he has proven to be worthy winning the league abd the champions league, he deserved to be given that benefit of doubt that he could still turn things around.
The Chelsea side were too hasty about a change of coach and the result is they are now falling deeper into the regular league. I'm not attacking Potter, but I think Graham Potter is the worst coach replacement at the moment, we know he doesn't even have any experience other than coaching Brighton and several other small teams, while Thomas Tuchel has already given Chelsea the UCL title and several trophies at big clubs others he has coached. I'm not sure Chelsea can qualify for this top 16 phase, considering that they always appear with poor performances.
It's not right to make hasty decisions about Potter.  He may not have much experience, but I think he played successful matches in the teams he managed.  I think he can do better after getting to know the team and in an adaptation period for Chelsea.
It's true that everything needs adaptation and process for every new coach, but when it comes to a big name club like Chelsea, of course, many of their fans don't accept that their favorite club experiences a decline in performance every week. In the regular league competition they are in the middle of the standings and in the UCL competition they have to fight Dortmund in the last 16, Graham potter's homework this season has been very tough.

Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

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January 07, 2023, 06:42:17 AM
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I don't understand the problem of Liverpool even with the good players they have and up till this time they keep up struggling to win games. Liverpool is not getting better in performance,  I don't think it will be possible with their performance to challenge Real Madrid.  Liverpool Real Madrid match is going to be a total different game from Liverpool from what it used to be before now. If EPL is hard for Liverpool to win games, I doubt the champions league will be easy.
I think Liverpool have to make a few changes to their tactics or make a few more effective signings that will make positive impacts to the team. Liverpool have been struggling this season and losing points even to smaller teams which is unusual. If they perform at this level against Real Madrid the result might not be too good and might be disastrous. It seems qualifying for top four spot in the premier league will even be difficult to achieve this season.
The most important thing that must be changed must be its striker, Nunez has proven that so many time if he can do nothing. It can be seen from several matches. Almost all of liverpudlians were also feeling disappointed with his performance. Liverpool shall get a new striker instead of keep using him as the main striker for the squad. That's the reason why the performance from liverpool was also doing down so hard.
If there will be a big changes and I'm sure that Liverpool will be facing disaster in the future.
Nunez is giving his best, It's not easy for the guy like you think. Portugal's premiere Liga isn't the same as English Premier League. Nunez was doing extremely well in Benfica before Liverpool offered to sign him. Not all players adapt very easily to England's style of play, the only thing that could help Him is playing time and constant training. England is a tough league, let's not judge Nunez already, He's a good player he only needs time, 

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January 07, 2023, 07:45:51 AM
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I see that Liverpool is very different this season, they are very ambitious in the Champions League because Liverpool performance statistics cannot be equated with their performance in the Domestic league. facing real madrid is quite difficult for liverpool but they can give many surprises at the meeting later, Kloop has a long experience in the Champions League, of course he can bring Liverpool to qualify for the next round, Cody Gakpo is expected to bring big changes to liverpool in the Champions league and Domestic League. It is believed that Gakpo presence will make Liverpool stronger again and can be an ideal partner for Mohamed Salah.
The last few meetings between the two teams, Liverpool have always had trouble keeping up with Real Madrid's game, this should be a point of evaluation that Jurgen Klopp has to do, considering that there are several weak points that Liverpool currently have. Darwin Nunez has not been so optimal in adapting to the Liverpool squad, so it is still quite difficult to develop his game.

Performance in the domestic league is a reference for the quality of Liverpool's play and this season they have experienced a decline, but in my opinion in the Champions League they will go all out, because this is an opportunity to break Real Madrid's consistency in the Champions

Thiago Alcantara and Fabinho have not been among the players who you can say are not good at carrying out their duties as organizers of attacks from midfield. However, Harvey Elliott still needs flight hours because his performance is still inconsistent.
Jurgen Klopp still has Curtis Jones if Henderson cannot be played because in my opinion Curtis's expertise is above Elliott.

But take it easy, Jurgen Klopp can definitely find the right strategy to bring Liverpool to the championship competition, especially in the English Premier League.
Thiago Alcantara and Fabinho are still not consistent in my opinion, they are not strong enough to break the attacks that opposing players try to build. If you watch the last match against Brentford, then there we will see the quality of Thiago and Fabinho, they are always late in deciding the attack that Brentford Players are trying to build.

That's just Brentford, just imagine if Jurgen Klopp didn't find the right strategy against Real Madrid, then Thiago Alcantara and Fabinho would have quite a hard time carrying out their duties as attack organizers and deciding the attacks Real Madrid players were trying to build.

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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

Tuchel really added a different atmosphere to the team.  Now that we look at it, I am also skeptical of Graham Potter's performance.  They play pretty bad games in the league.  Yesterday they lost to City at home.  They can get back-to-back defeats.  I don't think their goal is to win the championship at UCL this year.  Also, even if they can beat Dortmund, it will be a success.  Dortmund is a very strong opponent.

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January 07, 2023, 09:18:38 AM
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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

As a coach, a big challenge when getting an offer to become a manager in a big team. I think Potter knows very well the risks if he takes the offer. however, of course he also wants to work and measure his ability to what extent he can bring Chelsea in a better direction.

Unfortunately, Chelsea is a team that is having some internal problems. some of the players who were injured. also, the team's underperforming performance since under Tuchel's tutelage at the start of this season. not an easy start for any coach, even if Zinedine Zidane coaches, it is not certain that he will also be able to immediately bring Chelsea to a better direction. because of that, it didn't seem like he was interested in coaching a team that was in trouble.
so, let's just see how far Potter can bring Chelsea in a better direction, especially against Dortmund in the round of 16 later.

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January 07, 2023, 09:22:59 AM
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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.

Tuchel really added a different atmosphere to the team.  Now that we look at it, I am also skeptical of Graham Potter's performance.  They play pretty bad games in the league.  Yesterday they lost to City at home.  They can get back-to-back defeats.  I don't think their goal is to win the championship at UCL this year.  Also, even if they can beat Dortmund, it will be a success.  Dortmund is a very strong opponent.
actually Dortmund this season is also not very strong but Chelsea is also experiencing the same thing and even worse, a team that changes coaches in the middle of a trip, of course, does not set high targets, especially on the European stage.

as they are currently experiencing in the Premier League, the results they are getting are quite bad, since Graham Potter has handled Chelsea there has been no consistent improvement, quite the opposite.

and for Chelsea in the UCL this season I very much doubt they can go further, against DOrtmund they will not be seeded to qualify even though the two teams have the same percentage to be able to beat each other in my opinion.



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January 07, 2023, 09:29:28 AM
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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.
The circumstances where they won the Champions League and now are very different circumstances, and if it is said they will return to Champions League success with any luck, are they going to rely on luck in every game they play? it's funny i think.
Graham Potter took over at Chelsea in a slump, that's true, but in his hands I haven't seen the consistent change from his early days in charge of this team.

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January 07, 2023, 11:13:38 AM
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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

With the performance they are showing in EPL, I doubt they are able to qualify for next season of CL so the only chance they have is to win the CL this season which is very difficult in my opinion as there are many strong competitors, Dortmund is probably the easiest one. From other side, the main factor that attributed to their winning of 2021 CL was their coach Thomas Tuchel who is no longer the coach.
Chelsea's performance in the EPL is indeed so bad that it's impossible for people to think Chelsea can win the UCL this season even against Dortmund, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to overcome that to win, I think Chelsea need new players to restore faith in their club

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