Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[bitterguy28]

That's a classic move. They would only advertise the good sides, not the bad ones. Apart from everything, KYC is mandatory when it comes to casinos. That's how they check if the money is coming from a legitimate source or not. One thing I don't like is that they won't ask for KYC when registering, but when one tried to withdraw the money, they would demand KYC. And of course, they can block your account on suspicious grounds, which stinks. If you are concerned about doing KYC, then check properly before registering whether they require KYC or not.

That is one of their marketing strategies to attract new gamblers so that they will sign up and think that there is no KYC but after a few days when they withdraw their winnings that is when they get a problem. If you are willing to do KYC then there are no problems but if not then what will happens to your winnings? It will stay there meaning that is now casino money. Great strategy to those casino owners and you are right they can control your account and give you false accusations so that you cannot withdraw your winnings.

it needed no days but when the players need to withdraw their winning , they will allow you to continue depositing and playing but after winning then face the Issue of KYC.
but mostly when winning big amount or else you played in scam casino that needs no big amount of money to be asked of KYC.
lucky that I once expereince this but with the legit casino that I need big amount to withdraw but after sending my Details. just in 24 hrs i was paid with bonus actually.
but this is still not the proper way instead ask the KYC when creating account so people will not be bother each time there is a wins or a need to withdraw.

[GiftedMAN]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

Sometimes most of them purposely do that so that new users will not know that the casino need some heavy verifications for withdrawal of funds. This need to be stated so that any new users that are not ready to disclose their information can abstain from the site. This is better than allowing users to use the site after a while then have the difficulty of cashing out there funds. If this prolong, other users can still decide not to use the site again and because of problem they have. We need to acquire on new casinos before using them to safe us from stress.

[Hirose UK]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

That only in casinos that don't really have big name and don't have many customers so the community they have is also relatively small so they take advantage of the opportunity by declaring non-KYC but when making withdrawals of larger amounts they ask for verification of personal identity.
There are still very many gamblers who wish to remain anonymous but most casinos have stated that they have KYC requirements so some small casinos do this to attract more customers.

Moreover, all casinos definitely have different terms and conditions but they are written clearly in the tos and faq which can be read by every customer so that if the tos is not there but in the future it becomes problem then it can be said to manipulation.
It is better not to use casino like this and use one that is truly open to customers from the start.

[Kelvinid]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

Most of the time, we can't see that KYC verification is required which makes some gamblers encourage to register and use their platform.
It is just like they don't care about it (deposit) but once we are able to withdraw our funds, we are surprised why they are asking for it. While questioning why, the answer is optional but needed because you can't get approval if not completed That really sounds crazy as we were never taught that it was obligatory, and been pushed to do that otherwise, we can never get our money back.

Actually, I'm not against KYC but it should be clear enough for the gamblers that was necessary to comply, not just to find it when we now withdrawing our funds.

[Agbe]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

If the casino stated it clear that the KYC most be done before play the game then you would not blame the casino again but whereby there was no statement like that and when you win big then they will come up with their conditions to fill a KYC form and that is bad. And another thing I also discovered is that some casinos are afraid of put those terms and conditions at the beginning because many gamblers do not like to fill KYC and immediately they see KYC they would not go close to that casino and probably some casinos noticed that and that is why they hide the request of the KYC at the beginning and ask at the time of withdrawal and if the documents are not tally then they would edge the gambler out without paying the gambler. Wow!! That is bad. We have seen cases like that here in the forum.

[Sunderland]

That only in casinos that don't really have big name and don't have many customers so the community they have is also relatively small so they take advantage of the opportunity by declaring non-KYC but when making withdrawals of larger amounts they ask for verification of personal identity.
There are still very many gamblers who wish to remain anonymous but most casinos have stated that they have KYC requirements so some small casinos do this to attract more customers.

Moreover, all casinos definitely have different terms and conditions but they are written clearly in the tos and faq which can be read by every customer so that if the tos is not there but in the future it becomes problem then it can be said to manipulation.
It is better not to use casino like this and use one that is truly open to customers from the start.

Casinos also considered the KYC as a double edge sword for them, new casino want to attract new players but they are aware that if they are too strict with the KYC thing, it will makes people hesitate to play on their site.
But the casino also need it as a tool to prevent abuse and money laundry.

So I will not deposit and play on any casino who declare that the KYC is not neccessary because the casino probably ilegal.

Anyway, many casino state that they will only ask for the KYC when neccessary, I prefer to play on that one.
I am a small fish, only deposit a few bucks to a few hundred bucks on different casino but never been ask to do KYC at all.
Perhaps it happen because I never use VPN, always login from the same device and never create more than 1 account.
Ah and yes, I only play slots and soccer (EU major leagues) dont want to bet on small leagues where a fixed match is common.

[Odusko]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to do just because you have their funds in your platform.

To a large extent, any casino that does not follow the guideline rules and regulation or bring up an unwritten rule to light when the gambler want to take an action such as withdrawal and asking for KYC, when it is not clearly stated in the rules of service and that will really hurt the gambler mostly if he is not withdrawing above the set limits.
At some point also we still have a lot to do in building the right information about a casino before we even think of registering an account on them, and this is the reason I advise people to only gamble on reputable casinos that have a presence here in the forum.

[LUCKMCFLY]

KYC is straight straightforward demands, if a casino has it, is not something that will be hidden so at least the gambler who sign up on the site will have the chance to quickly spot them and also be sure to put in place the necessary arrangement and waiting to when to be asked to supply the necessary documents to verify the accounts.
But if any casino does not state that there are KYC compliances it the means that they are practically abusing the right of the gambler if they demand for it along the line.

Kyc should be accepted by the gambler,because it was the direct demand by the gambling sites on the gambler.The gambler can deposit to the gambling site without any restriction to the gambling site,even you can play the gambling site without the kyc.But the withdraw need the kyc verification compulsory,have you think this is why and what reason behind this.The reason was to stop the promotion of the money laundering in the gambling by the way of gambling.So it will ask the gambler to do Kyc at the time of withdraw.

If don't want to accept the KYC provisions the only way is to play at non-KYC casino or don't need to gamble at an online casino.
But when choosing to use non-KYC casino it will not guarantee that the customer will not be asked for KYC because there are also many casinos labeled non-KYC but when the customer has a big win and withdraws it the casino asks for KYC as withdrawal requirement.
Such cases have occurred lot.

I always advise not to mind KYC and forget about anonymity forget about the bad things because trusted casino with good reputation can definitely protect whatever is their customer data.
Moreover if we talk about its use KYC can be very useful for both parties so that no one is at a loss here.
Casinos always try to provide the best for customers and we gamblers who as casino customers must also comply with every policy that has been set without exception.

Because you say that only doing the KYC to the casinos that are most reliable is the best thing to do, then this leaves other casinos to do the things that touch them much harder, because in the first instance things when they are treated as What to do so that a person can do a KYC is the best, although I am very Reluctant when it comes to saying that a KYC will Bring us benefits, I think that is not the case, the KYC is just a requirement that is required for have control by governments, so in this order of things we have to put a lot of emphasis on what we want to achieve in a particular casino, we can have all the intention to play and know how the case is, for that the best It will always be necessary to review the ANN thread to have complete clarity about what we are getting into, there are people who are in new casinos and who require KYC , they comply and well , at Least for me , if Privacy is important, that is what we must have If we want, then I would give importance to this.

When a person wants to be calm with their money without Others knowing, that should be respected, that is something that should not be Considered Against, we Deserve what we want, when we talk about KYC yes, it causes annoyance , especially when someone is going to withdraw their money and then they tell them that they have to comply with the KYC, and sometimes it is quick, but it is more annoying when the process lasts a long time, that is, I am not saying anything that the process lasts a while of hours, because it is something normal while they Verify, but taking more than 24 or 48 hours I think is an abuse, I have seen that some publish that out of rage they bet the money they had deposited and lose it, and that They Classify it as a casino strategy so that the money stays there and they cannot get it out, that is something that does not suit me, this type of casino is the one that I avoid in its entirety, but that is why the issue is delicate .

[Lanatsa]

KYC is straight straightforward demands, if a casino has it, is not something that will be hidden so at least the gambler who sign up on the site will have the chance to quickly spot them and also be sure to put in place the necessary arrangement and waiting to when to be asked to supply the necessary documents to verify the accounts.
But if any casino does not state that there are KYC compliances it the means that they are practically abusing the right of the gambler if they demand for it along the line.

Kyc should be accepted by the gambler,because it was the direct demand by the gambling sites on the gambler.The gambler can deposit to the gambling site without any restriction to the gambling site,even you can play the gambling site without the kyc.But the withdraw need the kyc verification compulsory,have you think this is why and what reason behind this.The reason was to stop the promotion of the money laundering in the gambling by the way of gambling.So it will ask the gambler to do Kyc at the time of withdraw.

If don't want to accept the KYC provisions the only way is to play at non-KYC casino or don't need to gamble at an online casino.
But when choosing to use non-KYC casino it will not guarantee that the customer will not be asked for KYC because there are also many casinos labeled non-KYC but when the customer has a big win and withdraws it the casino asks for KYC as withdrawal requirement.
Such cases have occurred lot.

I always advise not to mind KYC and forget about anonymity forget about the bad things because trusted casino with good reputation can definitely protect whatever is their customer data.
Moreover if we talk about its use KYC can be very useful for both parties so that no one is at a loss here.
Casinos always try to provide the best for customers and we gamblers who as casino customers must also comply with every policy that has been set without exception.

Because you say that only doing the KYC to the casinos that are most reliable is the best thing to do, then this leaves other casinos to do the things that touch them much harder, because in the first instance things when they are treated as What to do so that a person can do a KYC is the best, although I am very Reluctant when it comes to saying that a KYC will Bring us benefits, I think that is not the case, the KYC is just a requirement that is required for have control by governments, so in this order of things we have to put a lot of emphasis on what we want to achieve in a particular casino, we can have all the intention to play and know how the case is, for that the best It will always be necessary to review the ANN thread to have complete clarity about what we are getting into, there are people who are in new casinos and who require KYC , they comply and well , at Least for me , if Privacy is important, that is what we must have If we want, then I would give importance to this.

When a person wants to be calm with their money without Others knowing, that should be respected, that is something that should not be Considered Against, we Deserve what we want, when we talk about KYC yes, it causes annoyance , especially when someone is going to withdraw their money and then they tell them that they have to comply with the KYC, and sometimes it is quick, but it is more annoying when the process lasts a long time, that is, I am not saying anything that the process lasts a while of hours, because it is something normal while they Verify, but taking more than 24 or 48 hours I think is an abuse, I have seen that some publish that out of rage they bet the money they had deposited and lose it, and that They Classify it as a casino strategy so that the money stays there and they cannot get it out, that is something that does not suit me, this type of casino is the one that I avoid in its entirety, but that is why the issue is delicate .

You would really be able to avoid all the hassles and the risks and danger if you do just simply stick into those known sites or reputable or popular because you could be somewhat be able to assure that you are really that able to avoid those kind of scenarios or circumstances. You know that there are really people who are really that interested on testing out some new sites without minding that much about their reputation  and the worst which they arent even reading up sites terms and conditions which we know that this is where it is usually being written.If you dont make yourself that be wary about on things then for sure you would really be ending up on dealing with sites which you would really be that experiencing problems or getting locked up.

There's still lots of sites that we do have now that you could be able to make withdrawal without any issues no matter how big the amount is. You would really be that
just needing to be sensible on what are the things that you must do specially on trying out to seek for legit sites then it would really be just that right thing to be done.
You cant really just that make yourself that easily make deposits without doing proper searching.

[Alphie12]

Casinos should rarely do KYC since there's not much need. No one is using a casino to money launder so that is just an excuse that players buy into because they don't know better. If they are money laundering then it's totally obvious. To many casinos do KYC and then hold the money for weeks hoping the player loses.

[lionheart78]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

That should be the ethical way but we are bound by the terms of service which we agreed with.  The agreement on the ToS gives the casino authority over the platform transactions, requirements, and even modification of the lists of rules. If there is something that we don't understand we must make an inquiry about it.  It is not the casino's fault that we misunderstand their rules, they have customer support to explain can give explanation to rules we can't understand.

If we are not happy with their terms then we can just avoid such platform and look for casino platform that is more ethical.

Casinos should rarely do KYC since there's not much need. No one is using a casino to money launder so that is just an excuse that players buy into because they don't know better. If they are money laundering then it's totally obvious. To many casinos do KYC and then hold the money for weeks hoping the player loses.

Doing KYC is one of the requirements of the regulatory board, if the casino wants to acquire license they should abide by the regulations set by the authority.  The platform actually pay for the validation of KYC so the platform itself wish it is not implemented to reduce the expenditure of the casino but they can't avoid to implement it because it is required.

[Alphie12]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

That should be the ethical way but we are bound by the terms of service which we agreed with.  The agreement on the ToS gives the casino authority over the platform transactions, requirements, and even modification of the lists of rules. If there is something that we don't understand we must make an inquiry about it.  It is not the casino's fault that we misunderstand their rules, they have customer support to explain can give explanation to rules we can't understand.

If we are not happy with their terms then we can just avoid such platform and look for casino platform that is more ethical.

Casinos should rarely do KYC since there's not much need. No one is using a casino to money launder so that is just an excuse that players buy into because they don't know better. If they are money laundering then it's totally obvious. To many casinos do KYC and then hold the money for weeks hoping the player loses.

Doing KYC is one of the requirements of the regulatory board, if the casino wants to acquire license they should abide by the regulations set by the authority.  The platform actually pay for the validation of KYC so the platform itself wish it is not implemented to reduce the expenditure of the casino but they can't avoid to implement it because it is required.

People keep buying in to this nonsense. KYC only happens when you win. Why don't they KYC losers? It's only there to take your money. The regulatory boards just check to make sure casinos aren't running crooked games.

[khaled0111]

Casinos should rarely do KYC since there's not much need. No one is using a casino to money launder so that is just an excuse that players buy into because they don't know better. If they are money laundering then it's totally obvious. To many casinos do KYC and then hold the money for weeks hoping the player loses.

Regulated casinos have to comply with laws and regulations otherwise they risk losing their licenses and even get sued and have their business shut down.
Casino owner know that enforcing kyc to all their customers hurts their business and results in losing many customers. This is why they try to find ways to get around those regulations and laws such as asking for kyc when they notice something suspicious or the user asks to withdraw a big amount of money.

[Alphie12]

Casinos should rarely do KYC since there's not much need. No one is using a casino to money launder so that is just an excuse that players buy into because they don't know better. If they are money laundering then it's totally obvious. To many casinos do KYC and then hold the money for weeks hoping the player loses.

Regulated casinos have to comply with laws and regulations otherwise they risk losing their licenses and even get sued and have their business shut down.
Casino owner know that enforcing kyc to all their customers hurts their business and results in losing many customers. This is why they try to find ways to get around those regulations and laws such as asking for kyc when they notice something suspicious or the user asks to withdraw a big amount of money.

Name one casino that had their license taken away for not doing KYC.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

      -  Yup, you're right there. It seems that what happens for the sake of getting the attention of others who try their casino platform is that they do clickbait because they know that most crypto gamblers don't want KYC.

Until now, there are still many casinos that do that, and often the ones that do that are those who haven't been in the crypto gambling business for a long time. Unlike those who have been in the casino for a long time, they were transparent from the start when they started here on the forum.

[wiss19]

why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault

Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset?
People shouldn't be forced into what they don't  want to just because you have their funds in your platform.

Do casinos force people and stop them from reading the terms and conditions before they make a deposit or even create an account with them? No, it's the people that don't do that because they don't care and they are too lazy to read a few lines just to understand the terms and conditions that they will have to comply with if they gamble with the platform, and we shouldn't blame casinos for not making things clear in the beginning because we don't ask them when we join the platform but we just assume things from our own side.

A casino should only be blamed for not being clear about KYC or any other rule if they say that they don't have any rule like that and people won't be asked for KYC and then they ask for it, but if they don't say that, it means it's there in the terms and conditions and it's our responsibility as players to read and understand them and not theirs to convey every single one of it to us when we join their platform because there are millions of players joining and they can't do that with everyone.

[so98nn]

Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. 

[Alphie12]

Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. 

You don't have to read the terms since they all say the same thing. The dollar amount doesn't matter since some people are asked at $600 and others at $10,000. They do KYC when they think they have a reason to take your money.

[erep]

Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. 

Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.

[Bushdark]

Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. 

There is no way a casino will keep her KYC verification from customers of the platform and the information will not spread especially from the frustrated gamblers that had made use of the site before. This is one of the reasons why we need to ask questions especially online when we are lost and don't have adequate information about what we have intention to do. Some casinos can be very wise and not disclose the information to new customers so that they will not leave the casino because of KYC verification. Many people don't bother tk go through terms and conditions that is why they can easily fall victim.