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October 28, 2023, 09:03:43 PM |
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Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
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October 28, 2023, 09:06:24 PM |
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Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There is no way a casino will keep her KYC verification from customers of the platform and the information will not spread especially from the frustrated gamblers that had made use of the site before. This is one of the reasons why we need to ask questions especially online when we are lost and don't have adequate information about what we have intention to do. Some casinos can be very wise and not disclose the information to new customers so that they will not leave the casino because of KYC verification. Many people don't bother tk go through terms and conditions that is why they can easily fall victim.
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October 28, 2023, 09:25:20 PM |
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why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault
Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset? People shouldn't be forced into what they don't want to just because you have their funds in your platform. - Yup, you're right there. It seems that what happens for the sake of getting the attention of others who try their casino platform is that they do clickbait because they know that most crypto gamblers don't want KYC. Until now, there are still many casinos that do that, and often the ones that do that are those who haven't been in the crypto gambling business for a long time. Unlike those who have been in the casino for a long time, they were transparent from the start when they started here on the forum. When a casino noticed that their customers do not want KYC, what they need to do is to make sure that they don't lose customers by trying to reduce there KYC requirements to prevent so much customers from leaving there platform because there are many alternatives online people can use and make their gambling. It is not wise when a casino keep asking for KYC even when gamblers are leaving the casino because of the same reason. If a casino keep hiding KYC from new customers untill they want to withdraw, that is a real trap for upcoming players and no one will want to usw the casino when they find out the secret.
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October 28, 2023, 11:51:35 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
To be honest, I didn't get your answer. What's the relation between hiding the kyc requirement and the misuse of personal information? Those, although inacceptable, are totally different matters. Some casinos don't tell you they may ask you to verify your identity but they do it later. Many casinos have done this and they have been condamned for doing it. But this is totally different from misusing your personal information as this is a pure infringement of your private life and private information which are supposed to be protected.
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October 29, 2023, 01:33:10 PM |
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Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino. That how bad the notification system in small casinos is that they don't include more of their requirements but when gambler gets a big win and wants to withdraw it suddenly the casino team notifies them that withdrawal requires KYC. This kind of thing makes many gamblers feel cheated and creates problems that are quite complicated to solve. It seems very bad but that actually what happens in most of the small casinos out there. Until now, there are still many cases like this happening and almost all the victims have also entered this forum to express what happened to them regarding KYC problems for withdrawals. Personally, I was skeptical from the start and really never wanted to trust casinos that said non-KYC in any form because in the end there would be problems regarding KYC which was suddenly requested if we made a large withdrawal.
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October 29, 2023, 03:20:27 PM |
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Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There is no way a casino will keep her KYC verification from customers of the platform and the information will not spread especially from the frustrated gamblers that had made use of the site before. This is one of the reasons why we need to ask questions especially online when we are lost and don't have adequate information about what we have intention to do. Some casinos can be very wise and not disclose the information to new customers so that they will not leave the casino because of KYC verification. Many people don't bother tk go through terms and conditions that is why they can easily fall victim. Many people make this mistake when they first start playing at online casinos because they dont know what will happen if their KYC system isnt working right. People getting caught off guard because they didnt do their research is something I've seen happen many times. Its both frustrating and bad luck. Always, always ask things. Find as much information as you can, even if its just a comment on a site that not many people visit. And yes, it is disgusting how some casinos hide important information like KYC standards. People should be careful, but lets be honest: most people dont have the time or the awareness to read the terms and conditions. There is a weakness or a hole in the system, and some casinos take full advantage of it. The responsibility lies with the person, which is a shame. A quick search or question can save a lot of pain. Always know whats going on!
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October 29, 2023, 03:35:21 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising.
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October 29, 2023, 09:12:23 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising. Yes, looking at at things from an ethical perspective, you are exactly right. All the casinos who enforce KYC need to do is add a popup after registration, reminding them of the important rules that might get their accoubt/balance locked, for example, using a VPN, not completing KYC, etc. Though it is not legally required to do so, so they won't. Instead, they'll allow people to register, deposit, play, and then lock the account/balance for kyc if they didn't lose before that (which is why they let them play). ...and people say the casino industry is ethical ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 29, 2023, 09:21:49 PM |
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why they refuse or not find it encouraging for uploading their information to verify their accounts before funding the accounts of casino, any people we have in a casino problem concerning kyc that should be our fault
Most Casinos don't state clearly the terms and conditions in its clarity. Mid way into the whole gambling session they tend to make it look unnecessary to Verify identity and then they give you a striking condition only when you get to withdrawal page. The question is, was there a KYC condition for withdrawal from the very onset? People shouldn't be forced into what they don't want to just because you have their funds in your platform. - Yup, you're right there. It seems that what happens for the sake of getting the attention of others who try their casino platform is that they do clickbait because they know that most crypto gamblers don't want KYC. Until now, there are still many casinos that do that, and often the ones that do that are those who haven't been in the crypto gambling business for a long time. Unlike those who have been in the casino for a long time, they were transparent from the start when they started here on the forum. When a casino noticed that their customers do not want KYC, what they need to do is to make sure that they don't lose customers by trying to reduce there KYC requirements to prevent so much customers from leaving there platform because there are many alternatives online people can use and make their gambling. It is not wise when a casino keep asking for KYC even when gamblers are leaving the casino because of the same reason. If a casino keep hiding KYC from new customers untill they want to withdraw, that is a real trap for upcoming players and no one will want to usw the casino when they find out the secret. KYC is really that highly frowned upon into this market specially that we crypto enthusiast then it is really that not something we do really like to see and experience. As much as possible we would really be needing to play into platforms which arent really that too aggressive when it comes kyc verification even if its not needed and this is why it would really be that ideal that you should really be only choosing into platforms on which it would really be that known and reputable so that you wouldnt really be that getting shocked about those sudden KYC requirements. Somehow even if you do have that kind of advantage or preference on known sites but it would really be always that recommended that you should really be that aware of their terms and conditions on which we know that there are really that indeed thresholds on which even if you do deal with legit sites but still they could ask out once you do hit that threshold.
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October 30, 2023, 02:56:50 PM |
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That how bad the notification system in small casinos is that they don't include more of their requirements but when gambler gets a big win and wants to withdraw it suddenly the casino team notifies them that withdrawal requires KYC. This kind of thing makes many gamblers feel cheated and creates problems that are quite complicated to solve. It seems very bad but that actually what happens in most of the small casinos out there. Until now, there are still many cases like this happening and almost all the victims have also entered this forum to express what happened to them regarding KYC problems for withdrawals. Personally, I was skeptical from the start and really never wanted to trust casinos that said non-KYC in any form because in the end there would be problems regarding KYC which was suddenly requested if we made a large withdrawal. There are indeed some tiny casinos operating, and they are trying to deceive folks. It is absolutely not acceptable at all. Trust is absolutely vital! Online gambling is comparable to being in a committed partnership. You invest your time, money, and trust in this, and what do you receive in return? Unexpected KYC requirements? That is in no way fair, absolutely not Good individuals, they are becoming caught in this mess. Furthermore, this is not fair in the slightest. It is essential that these casinos operate in an open and transparent manner. It's as if you were in a relationship with someone who revealed to you that they have an entirely different existence that you were previously unaware of. It is startling, hurtful, and inappropriate We need to be smart, folks. We must conduct thorough investigation, pose difficult questions, and resist falling to tempting offers. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Stay safe and informed, and above all else, rely on your intuition
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That how bad the notification system in small casinos is that they don't include more of their requirements but when gambler gets a big win and wants to withdraw it suddenly the casino team notifies them that withdrawal requires KYC. This kind of thing makes many gamblers feel cheated and creates problems that are quite complicated to solve. It seems very bad but that actually what happens in most of the small casinos out there. Until now, there are still many cases like this happening and almost all the victims have also entered this forum to express what happened to them regarding KYC problems for withdrawals. Personally, I was skeptical from the start and really never wanted to trust casinos that said non-KYC in any form because in the end there would be problems regarding KYC which was suddenly requested if we made a large withdrawal. There are indeed some tiny casinos operating, and they are trying to deceive folks. It is absolutely not acceptable at all. Trust is absolutely vital! Online gambling is comparable to being in a committed partnership. You invest your time, money, and trust in this, and what do you receive in return? Unexpected KYC requirements? That is in no way fair, absolutely not Good individuals, they are becoming caught in this mess. Furthermore, this is not fair in the slightest. It is essential that these casinos operate in an open and transparent manner. It's as if you were in a relationship with someone who revealed to you that they have an entirely different existence that you were previously unaware of. It is startling, hurtful, and inappropriate We need to be smart, folks. We must conduct thorough investigation, pose difficult questions, and resist falling to tempting offers. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Stay safe and informed, and above all else, rely on your intuition I am always going to think about something, when it comes to how to ensure that a casino can be of such confidence that it is something difficult, I can say that yes, I am sure that research is done on which can be the best casino, The most reliable, although it is obvious, there is a list of which are the best casinos, the most reliable, what is most considered in context to be able to guarantee some confidence, especially when choosing a casino as the Favorite , there are many reviewers who will always abuse the best way to always highlight the best, this is something that they always dedicate themselves to, now, we can do that, and whoever wants to do their own research and share the details is in everything Your right to do so would be very useful, because everyone has a very different point of view from the others, the principles or criteria that one takes is the beginning of another, or the end, it is not known, that is why the forum is good for see all this and learn. Regarding things with casinos, they tend to be difficult, because it is true, the annoyance is only when a person enters a casino and wants to withdraw and then finds that they cannot because they have to meet the basic requirements, and between They have the KYC, which is very annoying, for that reason I have always said, a person who is in a casino, the moment they enter, since all this KYC is already an obligation, it should be done Something, at least one casino, the one that applies what I said, that before making a deposit, the KYUC is verified even if it is level 1, because it would be a way out of that and without so much problem, plus it Would be a casino that they don't mince words and they say things at once, they are not harassing with the word depositen, deposite, copsa that I sometimes dislike about some casinos, it is known that you have to Deposit but sometimes there is a lot of notice of that , if a caisno He does things like that, I think he would get a lot more trust.
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November 06, 2023, 03:02:50 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising. I don't think it's their responsibility to tell players about all their terms and conditions since they already have them written separately and are available for everyone to check and read, and it's gamblers' responsibility to read the terms and conditions when they are joining a platform to know if they will be asked for KYC verification or not during the withdrawal process. If the casino doesn't have it written in its terms and conditions and still asks for it, that's when they are to be blamed. If a casino has it written on their homepage or anywhere they are running promotional campaigns that players won't be asked for KYC verification but they still ask for it, that is when the casino is wrong because they have said it themselves that they won't ask for it but they are still asking for it, but if it's available in the terms and conditions and they haven't said anything about it, it's gamblers' responsibility to find out about it.
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November 06, 2023, 03:13:55 PM |
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I don't think it's their responsibility to tell players about all their terms and conditions since they already have them written separately and are available for everyone to check and read, and it's gamblers' responsibility to read the terms and conditions when they are joining a platform to know if they will be asked for KYC verification or not during the withdrawal process. If the casino doesn't have it written in its terms and conditions and still asks for it, that's when they are to be blamed.
If a casino has it written on their homepage or anywhere they are running promotional campaigns that players won't be asked for KYC verification but they still ask for it, that is when the casino is wrong because they have said it themselves that they won't ask for it but they are still asking for it, but if it's available in the terms and conditions and they haven't said anything about it, it's gamblers' responsibility to find out about it.
more gamblers will not read such rules. maybe a little different from those who play at crypto casinos. more gamblers ignore the terms and conditions that players must agree to. Even though the player must know all this, most people don't pay attention. all that happens is creating an account, depositing, claiming the bonus, and playing. Maybe they don't even know some of the casino rules regarding VPN use. which can also be a problem in the future besides complicated KYC when withdrawals are made.
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November 06, 2023, 04:33:59 PM |
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KYC request for withdrawals is a common practice. The casino is interested in making as much money as possible - so deposits are usually subject to minimum requirements, but no one likes to part with their money. This is a fact
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November 06, 2023, 08:16:08 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising. I don't think it's their responsibility to tell players about all their terms and conditions since they already have them written separately and are available for everyone to check and read, and it's gamblers' responsibility to read the terms and conditions when they are joining a platform to know if they will be asked for KYC verification or not during the withdrawal process. If the casino doesn't have it written in its terms and conditions and still asks for it, that's when they are to be blamed. If a casino has it written on their homepage or anywhere they are running promotional campaigns that players won't be asked for KYC verification but they still ask for it, that is when the casino is wrong because they have said it themselves that they won't ask for it but they are still asking for it, but if it's available in the terms and conditions and they haven't said anything about it, it's gamblers' responsibility to find out about it. Agree and we do know that those terms and condition kind of alerts is already that been shown or mentioned on the time that we do make some register and we do really just check it directly without tending to read up the entire thing and this is the primary mistake that we do have on which we dont really love on reading up those TOS until you would really be finding yourself on such trouble. Its really that true it is really that a long pile of text but it is really that relevant that you should really know on whats inside it, or else you would really be that ending up on messing the situation.. This is why it would really be that ideal that you should really be only sticking into those sites on whose really that known and reputable so that you would really be able to save up yourself on some potential issues such as this on which those sudden ask of KYC on times of big win. Usually they are doing this for security checks and other known common reason but as long they do able to pay up then this what matter the most.
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November 06, 2023, 09:49:18 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising. Each casino may have their own way of making such an information, some do not need to keep repeating on it or set a reminder about it when they already have stated such on their ToS, at least for an average gambler who understands his way should know that kyc gambling casinos will definitely demand for them going through the process at anytime, not asking at the point of registration isn't a barrier, if there's also a change in it, they would have communicated such through our contact or display such on the profile as information.
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November 08, 2023, 09:40:20 AM |
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That how bad the notification system in small casinos is that they don't include more of their requirements but when gambler gets a big win and wants to withdraw it suddenly the casino team notifies them that withdrawal requires KYC. This kind of thing makes many gamblers feel cheated and creates problems that are quite complicated to solve. It seems very bad but that actually what happens in most of the small casinos out there. Until now, there are still many cases like this happening and almost all the victims have also entered this forum to express what happened to them regarding KYC problems for withdrawals. Personally, I was skeptical from the start and really never wanted to trust casinos that said non-KYC in any form because in the end there would be problems regarding KYC which was suddenly requested if we made a large withdrawal. There are indeed some tiny casinos operating, and they are trying to deceive folks. It is absolutely not acceptable at all. Trust is absolutely vital! Online gambling is comparable to being in a committed partnership. You invest your time, money, and trust in this, and what do you receive in return? Unexpected KYC requirements? That is in no way fair, absolutely not Good individuals, they are becoming caught in this mess. Furthermore, this is not fair in the slightest. It is essential that these casinos operate in an open and transparent manner. It's as if you were in a relationship with someone who revealed to you that they have an entirely different existence that you were previously unaware of. It is startling, hurtful, and inappropriate We need to be smart, folks. We must conduct thorough investigation, pose difficult questions, and resist falling to tempting offers. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Stay safe and informed, and above all else, rely on your intuition The view and assessment of online casinos seems little bad because there are several small casinos that commit fraud against their customers, although the impact is not that significant but it will always be worry for novice gamblers who want to enter the online gambling industry. We are customers here, depositing money and spending it to bet but some casinos do disappointing things such as cheating by suddenly asking for KYC requirements even though at the beginning they promoted that they didn't require KYC. If we talk about unfairness they are not casinos that can provide justice and comfort to gamblers, so casinos like this will only harm us. You are right that we should always be careful and try from the start to avoid such casinos if we don't want to get into trouble later. There have been too many cases and victims from casinos like that, so it would be better to always be wise in choosing the right casino.
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November 08, 2023, 10:06:21 AM |
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Yeah, this has been a nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government-issued licensed) casinos. It’s better to go for the dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino. Any casino that will not make a clear definition of what their KYC and withdrawal requirements are while registering of on their T&C it shows that they're up for attempt scam or possible attempt to control the accounts of the gambler and their attempt to also nail the gambler when their win big amount in rewards. But no reputable casino will allow their customers to have such a hard time when either withdrawing their winning or coming up with unnecessary KYC demands at some point, as isn't mentioned in the terms of service that the customers agree to at the point of account creation.
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November 08, 2023, 11:23:06 AM |
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Yeah, this has been a nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government-issued licensed) casinos. It’s better to go for the dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino. Any casino that will not make a clear definition of what their KYC and withdrawal requirements are while registering of on their T&C it shows that they're up for attempt scam or possible attempt to control the accounts of the gambler and their attempt to also nail the gambler when their win big amount in rewards. But no reputable casino will allow their customers to have such a hard time when either withdrawing their winning or coming up with unnecessary KYC demands at some point, as isn't mentioned in the terms of service that the customers agree to at the point of account creation. You are completely right, and i agree with you, a reputable casino will make everything or information about the casino available in their terms and conditions, and must make sure the customer agrees to it before he or she is allowed to click the sign up or register button. This is why i will always advice gamblers to choose reputable casinos most especially, gamblers who take the matter or issue of KYC serious, there are some gamblers who dont really care or what to know of the importance of minding who and who they give or share their real identity with, for this kind of person, they may go on trying new and untrusted casinos, butr for those who take the privacy of their identity serious, it is very important to only choose and play on well trusted and reputable casinos, this also guarantee that whenever the gambler win a very big amount of money, getting the money will not be a problem at all.
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November 08, 2023, 12:40:07 PM |
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising. Each casino may have their own way of making such an information, some do not need to keep repeating on it or set a reminder about it when they already have stated such on their ToS, at least for an average gambler who understands his way should know that kyc gambling casinos will definitely demand for them going through the process at anytime, not asking at the point of registration isn't a barrier, if there's also a change in it, they would have communicated such through our contact or display such on the profile as information. All of the key information are in ToS. It is just the customer or the gambler who is not reading it. It is not the casinos duty to keep reminding the gambler to do KYC as upon registration it was already stated on their ToS and the problem with that is we didn't read it. It is better to skim through it or head over to the FAQ section as mostly you can find an answer on it. I wouldn't call it also false advertising as it was just a marketing material to attract new gamblers and it ain't stated that it is a completely KYC-free, mostly in the registration that you can register without doing a KYC-right-a-way.
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