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June 29, 2024, 02:33:01 PM
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Here, you spoke my mind and I completely agree with you, alot of gamblers complain about kyc today, and what you said has always been my opinion, it's better to just stay away from gambling completely if kyc is a big issue for you.

Kyc (from my personal observation) will never go away, it will only elvove, maybe in the future, new technologies will be built or invented that will make passing kyc verification more easier and stress free, but then, it's something we all should already get used to as long as we are sending and receiving money on that internet, because aside from casinos, most exchanges have made kyc verification mandatory for all users before they allow any form of deposit or withdrawal.
One of the main reason on why crypto gambling had become that popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to tell that there would really be tons of people
who would really be rather prefering on playing without making their identity that being exposed. On the moment that crypto gambling boomed up then government will surely be wanting to regulate
everything on which this isnt really that a shocking thing anymore or something that new. This is why now these sites that had been before to be non-kyc but now they are really that neither asking
or there are specific conditions on which us gamblers wont really be having any choice but to deal up into those things on which we know that there's nothing we can do about it
with those changes.
The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.
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June 29, 2024, 05:20:45 PM
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The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.
When gambling, of course there is a certain amount of personal data included because this is one of the requirements that must be met when you want to gamble. Even though at the beginning of registration the casino may not submit KYC, that can change when we get a big win, not only that with the money that goes into the account, even if the amount is unusual it can be a problem, I heard when someone has an account and the income is just below average. average, but when a very large amount of money comes in, the person is called by the account company to ask more clearly where the money comes from, this is not much different from gambling which can result in big wins, of course it is natural that we have to fill in or fulfill KYC submitted suddenly by the casino.
because our goal is to cash out the winnings that we have obtained, it is impossible for us not to do what the casino tells us and let the winnings that we have obtained be lost, of course we will fulfill KYC to be able to withdraw the winnings that have been obtained.

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June 29, 2024, 07:36:17 PM
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Here, you spoke my mind and I completely agree with you, alot of gamblers complain about kyc today, and what you said has always been my opinion, it's better to just stay away from gambling completely if kyc is a big issue for you.

Kyc (from my personal observation) will never go away, it will only elvove, maybe in the future, new technologies will be built or invented that will make passing kyc verification more easier and stress free, but then, it's something we all should already get used to as long as we are sending and receiving money on that internet, because aside from casinos, most exchanges have made kyc verification mandatory for all users before they allow any form of deposit or withdrawal.
One of the main reason on why crypto gambling had become that popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to tell that there would really be tons of people
who would really be rather prefering on playing without making their identity that being exposed. On the moment that crypto gambling boomed up then government will surely be wanting to regulate
everything on which this isnt really that a shocking thing anymore or something that new. This is why now these sites that had been before to be non-kyc but now they are really that neither asking
or there are specific conditions on which us gamblers wont really be having any choice but to deal up into those things on which we know that there's nothing we can do about it
with those changes.
The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.

Yes, i do remember those early years when crypto gambling is really just that starting up and wayback there are really just that only few whose that current existing in the market until that
first bull run on which i have experienced on where everything is really that becoming that popular on which it do really ends up on for those people to deal up with this thing without being
exposing their identity on which this has been the main reason on why it did really that making up some noise but eventually on the future years to come then it had become that
making those changes where anonymity had becoming that having those KYC on which on the moment that you do reach up such threshold then you would really be needing
to comply something.

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June 29, 2024, 11:50:24 PM
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The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.


It is very true what you say, only sometimes the same system is in charge of forcing people to give their data whether or not, I think that in the world there should come a simpler way of not Fighting against the system, where they allow freedom to remain anonymous, with more privacy, but it is very Difficult, in fact I know that through social networks the Information is channeled to know who is who and what things the person thinks , and what position they can occupy in treatment with cryptocurrencies, governments have detection systems with AI and who knows with what other technology where to be anonymous, it would be necessary to delete oneself from Ssocial networks and that is something that currently for many it is impossible to do.

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June 30, 2024, 03:28:52 AM
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This is why there are PayPal stealth accounts, most companies do kyc as a formality to appease governments/avoid legal troubles, or so to say they do the bare min to verify the information. That being said, they will enforce it if you get a big win... It's a risk either way.  it's probably safer to assume all sites will require kyc unless they have a reputation of not.  And it's safer to just not gamble if you're not comfortable providing it or risking your funds.
Here, you spoke my mind and I completely agree with you, alot of gamblers complain about kyc today, and what you said has always been my opinion, it's better to just stay away from gambling completely if kyc is a big issue for you.

Kyc (from my personal observation) will never go away, it will only elvove, maybe in the future, new technologies will be built or invented that will make passing kyc verification more easier and stress free, but then, it's something we all should already get used to as long as we are sending and receiving money on that internet, because aside from casinos, most exchanges have made kyc verification mandatory for all users before they allow any form of deposit or withdrawal.
One of the main reason on why crypto gambling had become that popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to tell that there would really be tons of people
who would really be rather prefering on playing without making their identity that being exposed. On the moment that crypto gambling boomed up then government will surely be wanting to regulate
everything on which this isnt really that a shocking thing anymore or something that new. This is why now these sites that had been before to be non-kyc but now they are really that neither asking
or there are specific conditions on which us gamblers wont really be having any choice but to deal up into those things on which we know that there's nothing we can do about it
with those changes.
Though I struggle to understand well all that you have said., let me say that for the part of your comment I understood, you are sure right.
When I started crypto gambling, there was nothing like customers having to pass kyc verification, cryptocurrency holders enjoyed unrestricted access to top casinos without having to pass kyc verification, I guess this was one of the major catalyst that caused many to adopt crypto gambling., instead of the old fashioned fiat.

Fast forward back to today, both crypto and non crypto gambling all require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this is actually not a surprise to me if I must be honest, for it is what we asked for we are (a kind of) getting, peeps asked the government to start regulating crypto, so that crypto can to mainstream, but we all forgot that government regulation does not come free, there is a price the people always pay, and that price is loss of privacy to their identity.

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June 30, 2024, 03:26:08 PM
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Of course my words doesn`t mean that we must share our data with everybody. But i often see how people give their data to unknown internet services without any guarantee of it`s security and the same time cry that casino can steal their data. It is strange enough as for me.
About license i can add my opinion, may be it isn`t true - i`m not a big player and never was cheated big sums. I don`t know how Curacao license can help me to return my money, if the casino decide to cheat me. 
I think many people at still ignorant about data sales that is why they are always eager to give our their data unknown source or company that could use their data against them. We don't have to keep sharing our date with online casino just because we want to play games, have fun and make money. There are other casinos too we can get the same thing from that would never ask us if our data because they felt it is unreasonable. Bad hands can get to use our data on Internet fraud and out us in great danger. We just need to be wise and keep doing the right thing.
I saw a bot in telegram, that showed information about telephone number owner. I searched information about people, i know in real life. I`ve got information about all of them - id, address, job, something else, i don`t remember. We are in the world of data. Big data. And there are people who can work with it. As the result we can get such information from the telegram bot. May be it was stolen, i don`t know, but anyway i think that data about all of us can be find in internet.
Regardless of the level of risk that we may see associated with KYC data protection and the risk of data linkage it is also important to know that KYC also protect the gambler from some data violation, such as identity theft that could be exposed only by KYC update, I am not against KYC but what I don't like is when the KYC is only demanded when the gambler won big amount even though they already done some level one verification.
I don't seem to get you correctly about the remark that "KYC also protect the gambler from some data violation," I would appreciate it if you could shed more light on that.

Well, the issue of KYC has been lingering for so long and in the end, I think this favours the government intervention rather than the customers' interest and data security. If you would agree with me, if not for the KYC, data leaks would not be as much as it is now, and we would only be hearing of the few ones that happens due to hacking and robbery. But today, we have millions of companies in the world collecting people's data, is the government telling me that they trust the safekeeping of people's data in the hands of these random people using companies to collect the data? I will not even think otherwise.

So, the issue of data collection through KYC online is always concerning, but it is unless we want to stay off the internet that we can overcome that, which is not possible in this civilization. As for the approach of demanding the KYC when you are winning frequently or trying to withdraw big or even withdrawing frequently is not new, it is we who should outsmart them by doing the right thing. Even if they ask for additional documents, let's provide them as and when due. I hope they will not start playing false verification to avoid the customer passing the verification for them to keep the money to themselves.
By the way, I think that now some casinos actually keep the money of those clients who cannot pass KYC for some personal reason.  I don't mean that the casino is stealing this money.  This is not true at all!  It’s just that such money is transferred to a special account “unclaimed client money”. 
And as unclaimed payments continue to grow, this bill gradually grows.  And in this case, starting from a certain point, the casino begins to count, roughly speaking, that these are like deposits from clients, as happens in a bank.  And apparently the casino itself puts part of this money into commercial circulation to make a profit.  The same thing as bank loans.  But, of course, if the player fulfills the KYC requirement, the money will be returned to him, but still such a fund will exist and work for the casino.  So many casinos are interested in having such unclaimed money from clients who do not confirm their identity using KYC or something like that.
You have a point and it is possible that some good casinos are doing just that. This also made me fall back on some financial services online and those who are not casinos but are allowed to hold customers' money like exchanges and brokers. They are in the practice similar to your view and of course, they are better structured than caisnos that are just growing like muchroom everywhere with little or no regulation that can curb their excesses. Had it been it's the financial services and online brokers that are duly regulated you are talking about, then I can agree with you in a way. This is because these establishments work very similarly to banks, so they dare not do something bad that if later exposed could lead them into serious trouble.

I've seen banks and brokers sanctioned to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, specifically at a time Barclays Bank which is a liquidity provider for some brokers was sanctioned about half a billion dollars, regulators in such fields are not playing in some countries and industries. But casinos are not part of it. Even if the regulators are strict in some countries, how many casinos are registered in those countries? They prefer weak regulation so that they can get away with a thing like this. Therefore, I believe "most" of the money they earn through cheating is gone for good, this is especially true if you have a huge money there, they may use all means possible for you not to get it.

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The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.
It is very true what you say, only sometimes the same system is in charge of forcing people to give their data whether or not, I think that in the world there should come a simpler way of not Fighting against the system, where they allow freedom to remain anonymous, with more privacy, but it is very Difficult, in fact I know that through social networks the Information is channeled to know who is who and what things the person thinks , and what position they can occupy in treatment with cryptocurrencies, governments have detection systems with AI and who knows with what other technology where to be anonymous, it would be necessary to delete oneself from Ssocial networks and that is something that currently for many it is impossible to do.
I don`t use social networks, but my data in internet. In my country when you create your business tax service share your data with banks, mobile phone companies sell your data, etc. As for me - if such organizations share your data - you can don`t care about KYC. Even if your data would be stolen - don`t worry, it was stolen several times before.
I care only about mobile phone(with GA) and debt/credit cards.
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This is why there are PayPal stealth accounts, most companies do kyc as a formality to appease governments/avoid legal troubles, or so to say they do the bare min to verify the information. That being said, they will enforce it if you get a big win... It's a risk either way.  it's probably safer to assume all sites will require kyc unless they have a reputation of not.  And it's safer to just not gamble if you're not comfortable providing it or risking your funds.
Here, you spoke my mind and I completely agree with you, alot of gamblers complain about kyc today, and what you said has always been my opinion, it's better to just stay away from gambling completely if kyc is a big issue for you.

Kyc (from my personal observation) will never go away, it will only elvove, maybe in the future, new technologies will be built or invented that will make passing kyc verification more easier and stress free, but then, it's something we all should already get used to as long as we are sending and receiving money on that internet, because aside from casinos, most exchanges have made kyc verification mandatory for all users before they allow any form of deposit or withdrawal.
You need to know that there are people that can not do without gambling a day and if you are going to advise such kind of person to leave gambling because of KYC then that would not work. Gambling is fun and sometimes it is also good for us to protect ourselves from involvement in things that could make us expose our privacy online. There should be need for gamblers to know what they are doing so that they don't have to do the mistake of privacy exposure that could have a bigger effects on us. I will always prefer a non KYC casino to the ones that are always requesting for KYC.

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The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.


The thing is, some people think that it's only when they give out their personal information on casino sites that their details can be sold out to scammers. They fail to realize that even some of those sites that they trusted with their details can also sell their details to scammers. Sometimes, when some people create social media accounts like Facebook or Twitter, they give out their phone number and email address, and there are some scammers who have some machines where they can just input your phone number and get every other personal detail they want. 

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July 01, 2024, 01:17:20 PM
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The thing is, some people think that it's only when they give out their personal information on casino sites that their details can be sold out to scammers.
No reputable casino would do that, as it would only destroy their reputation and hurt their business, which generates more money than they could earn by selling data to scammers. There's nothing to fear as long as we register with a regulated casino. They will take care of our details the best way they can, knowing they could be penalized if they leak any information.

So the first thing we have to do as a gambler is to research for a reputable casino, and if we are active in the forum, I'm sure it will not be hard for us to find those casinos. I'm not saying it's guaranteed that our information will not be leak, but as long as they have good security, it cannot be hack and sold. So the word "trust" is very important.
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Thats crazy, but the usual - Basically every FIAT casino does it like that.

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The main reason why cryptocurrencies had become so popular it is just because of its anonymous aspect on which you can really be able to be cheated any moment. Even if you still believe in "anonymous aspect".
There are some gamblers who really want to be anonymous, they choose casino without KYC, but the main part of gamblers, who tell us about anonymity share their private data with any service without any doubts. Be honest with yourself, analyze how much services have your data and add one more - your favorite casino.


The thing is, some people think that it's only when they give out their personal information on casino sites that their details can be sold out to scammers. They fail to realize that even some of those sites that they trusted with their details can also sell their details to scammers. Sometimes, when some people create social media accounts like Facebook or Twitter, they give out their phone number and email address, and there are some scammers who have some machines where they can just input your phone number and get every other personal detail they want.
Yes, lots of organizations do the same but don`t call it KYC and people think that it is ok, i don`t know why. You left your email address and name for one resource, name and phone for another, id for one more organization. The result is that all your data in the internet and you need someone to compare it on all these resources. It takes some time, but the result will be like the stolen KYC.


The thing is, some people think that it's only when they give out their personal information on casino sites that their details can be sold out to scammers.
No reputable casino would do that, as it would only destroy their reputation and hurt their business, which generates more money than they could earn by selling data to scammers. There's nothing to fear as long as we register with a regulated casino. They will take care of our details the best way they can, knowing they could be penalized if they leak any information.

So the first thing we have to do as a gambler is to research for a reputable casino, and if we are active in the forum, I'm sure it will not be hard for us to find those casinos. I'm not saying it's guaranteed that our information will not be leak, but as long as they have good security, it cannot be hack and sold. So the word "trust" is very important.
Casino willn`t, but nobody can say that one employee can`t do it. Federal services do the same, why casino can`t?
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By the way, I think that now some casinos actually keep the money of those clients who cannot pass KYC for some personal reason.  I don't mean that the casino is stealing this money.  This is not true at all!  It’s just that such money is transferred to a special account “unclaimed client money”.  
And as unclaimed payments continue to grow, this bill gradually grows.  And in this case, starting from a certain point, the casino begins to count, roughly speaking, that these are like deposits from clients, as happens in a bank.  And apparently the casino itself puts part of this money into commercial circulation to make a profit.  The same thing as bank loans.  But, of course, if the player fulfills the KYC requirement, the money will be returned to him, but still such a fund will exist and work for the casino.  So many casinos are interested in having such unclaimed money from clients who do not confirm their identity using KYC or something like that.
You have a point and it is possible that some good casinos are doing just that. This also made me fall back on some financial services online and those who are not casinos but are allowed to hold customers' money like exchanges and brokers. They are in the practice similar to your view and of course, they are better structured than caisnos that are just growing like muchroom everywhere with little or no regulation that can curb their excesses. Had it been it's the financial services and online brokers that are duly regulated you are talking about, then I can agree with you in a way. This is because these establishments work very similarly to banks, so they dare not do something bad that if later exposed could lead them into serious trouble.

I've seen banks and brokers sanctioned to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, specifically at a time Barclays Bank which is a liquidity provider for some brokers was sanctioned about half a billion dollars, regulators in such fields are not playing in some countries and industries. But casinos are not part of it. Even if the regulators are strict in some countries, how many casinos are registered in those countries? They prefer weak regulation so that they can get away with a thing like this. Therefore, I believe "most" of the money they earn through cheating is gone for good, this is especially true if you have a huge money there, they may use all means possible for you not to get it.
This seems to be a pretty serious financial problem all over the world right now.  This problem is simply caused by multiple jurisdictions that often do not synchronize financial legislation to a sufficient extent.  And issues such as protecting the rights of players who honestly win big at casinos may not work at all in some jurisdictions.  
Therefore, you are absolutely right that in many cases casino clients cannot receive the money they win.  This is especially true, of course, for those players who, for personal reasons, are forced to remain anonymous.  He simply cannot pass KYC; he is often forced to use VPN and other anonymization means.  And this, I suspect, is a fairly significant portion of all gamblers in the world.

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Thats crazy, but the usual - Basically every FIAT casino does it like that.

As long as they have a license then something like this is bound to happen, it doesn’t matter whether there are FIAT casino or crypto casino as long as they are operating under a license they’ll surely request users to complete KYC verification at one point in time.

If you're lucky you might go on without ever being asked to submit your documents but if you're the bug fish type who wagers large amounts and wins big you'll definitely be asked to submit your KYC document verification. I believe by now all gamblers should have already released this and bear in mind that something similar would hit them - and thus be prepared in case it happens.

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I don`t use social networks, but my data in internet. In my country when you create your business tax service share your data with banks, mobile phone companies sell your data, etc. As for me - if such organizations share your data - you can don`t care about KYC. Even if your data would be stolen - don`t worry, it was stolen several times before.
I care only about mobile phone(with GA) and debt/credit cards.

At this point everything is an orb, it seems privacy and anonymity is something almost Impossible to achieve, yes, in fact things with our data are Obviously already there, only sometimes one says, that for crypto issues it is better to keep a low profile , because you don't Know what things they can do or demand in the future, it is always good to try to protect yourself, even if you know little but you will try to protect yourself, it may seem Silly to seek privacy at this point, but it doesn't hurt , right?

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I don`t use social networks, but my data in internet. In my country when you create your business tax service share your data with banks, mobile phone companies sell your data, etc. As for me - if such organizations share your data - you can don`t care about KYC. Even if your data would be stolen - don`t worry, it was stolen several times before.
I care only about mobile phone(with GA) and debt/credit cards.

At this point everything is an orb, it seems privacy and anonymity is something almost Impossible to achieve, yes, in fact things with our data are Obviously already there, only sometimes one says, that for crypto issues it is better to keep a low profile , because you don't Know what things they can do or demand in the future, it is always good to try to protect yourself, even if you know little but you will try to protect yourself, it may seem Silly to seek privacy at this point, but it doesn't hurt , right?

Yeah, indeed, when it comes to crypto, it is important for both investors in crypto, traders and even crypto gamblers to keep a really low profile since crypto is still a very new technology, and as it's gaining adoption, it's mandatory or expected that regulations will follow as well, and then the regulators can come up with an unfavorable law, and when that happens, their first targets will be those whom their identity are already known to be deep into crypto.

It's just like what happened between Binance and the Nigerian government after the Nigerian government accused Binance of manipulating the Nigerian currency which caused it to lose value against the dollar, they banned Binance from trading the naira, also arrested some of Binance top executives and demand that Binance release the identify information of the top 100 Nigerian traders on their platform, as well as their entire transaction history respectively. Of course Binance refused.

But this is a big lesson for us all, keeping our true identity low key and only giving it to trusted platform is very important for our good.

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I don`t use social networks, but my data in internet. In my country when you create your business tax service share your data with banks, mobile phone companies sell your data, etc. As for me - if such organizations share your data - you can don`t care about KYC. Even if your data would be stolen - don`t worry, it was stolen several times before.
I care only about mobile phone(with GA) and debt/credit cards.

At this point everything is an orb, it seems privacy and anonymity is something almost Impossible to achieve, yes, in fact things with our data are Obviously already there, only sometimes one says, that for crypto issues it is better to keep a low profile , because you don't Know what things they can do or demand in the future, it is always good to try to protect yourself, even if you know little but you will try to protect yourself, it may seem Silly to seek privacy at this point, but it doesn't hurt , right?

As much as possible then we would really be wanting on having that kind of privacy on which we do really seek off on which it would really be just that normal and this is the very reason on why
gambling in crypto space is really that making that much attention due to that anonymity thing but when years do keep passing on then we do have seen that when it comes to KYC
then these platforms are already asking it out whether before you do play and on the time that you do make a withdrawal on which it do really sucks big time but since we are making use of their
platforms and since they are regulated or centralized already then you would really be needing up to comply for you to be able to play.

Somewhat there are still places on which you could really be able to make yourself having that gambling experience without having any KYC been done.
But it wont really be that shocking that sooner or later those changes would really be that generally applied and this is something which would really be that inevitable.

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Thats crazy, but the usual - Basically every FIAT casino does it like that.

As long as they have a license then something like this is bound to happen, it doesn’t matter whether there are FIAT casino or crypto casino as long as they are operating under a license they’ll surely request users to complete KYC verification at one point in time.

If you're lucky you might go on without ever being asked to submit your documents but if you're the bug fish type who wagers large amounts and wins big you'll definitely be asked to submit your KYC document verification. I believe by now all gamblers should have already released this and bear in mind that something similar would hit them - and thus be prepared in case it happens.
It may be disappointing to some people out there that we have reached this point, but it was inevitable, early on when casinos did not ask for your personal information, this was because at the time the governments were still not worried about bitcoin and the risk it represented to them.

But now things have changed, and governments are very aware that this market is growing at an impressive speed and now they want to gain as much control over it as possible, so it was obvious that such policies were coming.
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I don`t use social networks, but my data in internet. In my country when you create your business tax service share your data with banks, mobile phone companies sell your data, etc. As for me - if such organizations share your data - you can don`t care about KYC. Even if your data would be stolen - don`t worry, it was stolen several times before.
I care only about mobile phone(with GA) and debt/credit cards.

At this point everything is an orb, it seems privacy and anonymity is something almost Impossible to achieve, yes, in fact things with our data are Obviously already there, only sometimes one says, that for crypto issues it is better to keep a low profile , because you don't Know what things they can do or demand in the future, it is always good to try to protect yourself, even if you know little but you will try to protect yourself, it may seem Silly to seek privacy at this point, but it doesn't hurt , right?
My words doesn`t mean that we must publish our data everywhere of course. There are different scam services created for collecting our data and and it isn`t only casino. But they also wants our money and it is what i don`t want to lose. So the main idea is don`t be afraid of KYC but the same time DYOR before sharing your data.
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July 03, 2024, 04:48:41 PM
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Yeah, indeed, when it comes to crypto, it is important for both investors in crypto, traders and even crypto gamblers to keep a really low profile since crypto is still a very new technology, and as it's gaining adoption, it's mandatory or expected that regulations will follow as well, and then the regulators can come up with an unfavorable law, and when that happens, their first targets will be those whom their identity are already known to be deep into crypto.

It's just like what happened between Binance and the Nigerian government after the Nigerian government accused Binance of manipulating the Nigerian currency which caused it to lose value against the dollar, they banned Binance from trading the naira, also arrested some of Binance top executives and demand that Binance release the identify information of the top 100 Nigerian traders on their platform, as well as their entire transaction history respectively. Of course Binance refused.

But this is a big lesson for us all, keeping our true identity low key and only giving it to trusted platform is very important for our good.

That is another case which can be used as a reference to the fact that even so, sites like Binance are not as safe as many people claim, Some time ago this happened in Colombia and all Colombian citizens were completely blocked Until they did an exhaustive review of each of the Largest funds of the people who were there, therefore this is something for us to be careful about,  I will always say that it is Best to have our funds in a wallet, and from there send them to a casino or something like that, but the more anonymous we are and with more privacy the Better.


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