khaled0111
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July 21, 2024, 08:59:24 PM |
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I understand the challenge with submitting KYC to untrusted platforms but the truth is that the advantages of playing in a casino that request for KYC during registration is higher than those that does not require KYC Why would someone submit his personal documents to an untrusted platform! You should not even play there, let alone entrusting them with your personal information. There have been countless cases of people losing significant income due to casinos requesting KYC after winning; I consider this a deliberate attempt to steal people's fund.
The problem is not with the KYC requirement itself. The problem is with shady/scam service providers (ab)using it as an excuse to seize customers' funds. Just play at a reputable casinos and don't break any of their rules and you should be fine whether they request kyc or not.
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Odohu
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July 22, 2024, 07:02:43 AM |
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I understand the challenge with submitting KYC to untrusted platforms but the truth is that the advantages of playing in a casino that request for KYC during registration is higher than those that does not require KYC but might turn around to ask for it when there is heavy winning. That attitude is a sign of irresponsibility wrapped under criminal intentions. There have been countless cases of people losing significant income due to casinos requesting KYC after winning; I consider this a deliberate attempt to steal people's fund.
If you play in good casino you don`t lose your money but lose your time. It is bad, but it is better than losing your money in unknown cheating casino. I don't understand what you mean by losing time if one play in good casino because definitely time is required to play in casino and I don't consider such time as being lost because it is invested in something worthwhile. What I understand as losing time is when someone engages in activities that does not bring back anything meaningful and casino does not qualify as that because people do win massively. If it is possible - try to KYC yourself. If casino doesn`t give you such opportunity - you can try to make several small withdrawals. Mostly casino will KYC you. Same time you can check new casino for cheating.
Casinos that ask for KYC after winning generally fo that to cheat because they know that the funds they are performing KYC for came from their platform. Making smaller withdrawals can be a good option but bad casinos will not give that option.
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July 22, 2024, 07:09:31 AM |
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If you play in good casino you don`t lose your money but lose your time. It is bad, but it is better than losing your money in unknown cheating casino.
I don't understand what you mean by losing time if one play in good casino because definitely time is required to play in casino and I don't consider such time as being lost because it is invested in something worthwhile. What I understand as losing time is when someone engages in activities that does not bring back anything meaningful and casino does not qualify as that because people do win massively. I mean that you spend some time for KYC but as the result you`ll get your money. You can lose several days, waiting KYC and your money. Most times i KYCed in 1-2 days, but there were several situations when it took about a week. If it is possible - try to KYC yourself. If casino doesn`t give you such opportunity - you can try to make several small withdrawals. Mostly casino will KYC you. Same time you can check new casino for cheating.
Casinos that ask for KYC after winning generally fo that to cheat because they know that the funds they are performing KYC for came from their platform. Making smaller withdrawals can be a good option but bad casinos will not give that option. It is so, but if there is such opportunity it would be better to use it.
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Fivestar4everMVP
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July 22, 2024, 12:39:28 PM |
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If you play in good casino you don`t lose your money but lose your time. It is bad, but it is better than losing your money in unknown cheating casino.
I don't understand what you mean by losing time if one play in good casino because definitely time is required to play in casino and I don't consider such time as being lost because it is invested in something worthwhile. What I understand as losing time is when someone engages in activities that does not bring back anything meaningful and casino does not qualify as that because people do win massively. I mean that you spend some time for KYC but as the result you`ll get your money. You can lose several days, waiting KYC and your money. Most times i KYCed in 1-2 days, but there were several situations when it took about a week. For me though, I've never had to submit my kyc documents for verification on any platform and had to wait up to a week, by any platform, i mean gambling casinos actually, but talk about crypto exchanges, the exchanges platform where it got them that much time (over a week actually) to get my account verified after I've submitted kyc documents they requested fo, was XT.com exchange, yeah, and I did not actually make a big deal of it since beforehand, I understood that they are one of the shitty exchanges around. Coming back to passing kyc verification on gambling casinos, I would say that majorly all good casinos processes their customers kyc verification request within a day or maximum of 3 days if late, any casino that takes longer than this to verify their users kyc information is shitty to me.
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July 22, 2024, 01:15:50 PM |
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If you play in good casino you don`t lose your money but lose your time. It is bad, but it is better than losing your money in unknown cheating casino.
I don't understand what you mean by losing time if one play in good casino because definitely time is required to play in casino and I don't consider such time as being lost because it is invested in something worthwhile. What I understand as losing time is when someone engages in activities that does not bring back anything meaningful and casino does not qualify as that because people do win massively. I mean that you spend some time for KYC but as the result you`ll get your money. You can lose several days, waiting KYC and your money. Most times i KYCed in 1-2 days, but there were several situations when it took about a week. For me though, I've never had to submit my kyc documents for verification on any platform and had to wait up to a week, by any platform, i mean gambling casinos actually, but talk about crypto exchanges, the exchanges platform where it got them that much time (over a week actually) to get my account verified after I've submitted kyc documents they requested fo, was XT.com exchange, yeah, and I did not actually make a big deal of it since beforehand, I understood that they are one of the shitty exchanges around. Coming back to passing kyc verification on gambling casinos, I would say that majorly all good casinos processes their customers kyc verification request within a day or maximum of 3 days if late, any casino that takes longer than this to verify their users kyc information is shitty to me. So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
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July 22, 2024, 04:45:15 PM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons.
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July 23, 2024, 03:20:00 AM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. This is my stand on this because I have done KYC in reputable casinos and it is always easy and fast. The process and requirements are all spelt out and when met, the KYC is approved. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons.
My conclusion in the matter is that any casino that will allow users to make deposits without KYC but will require KYC to make withdrawals is definitely a big red flag for me. It is either you make it clear that KYC must be done before deposit/withdrawals or it should not be required at all. This way, it is easier for the gambler to fulfill the requirements from the beginning or look for other alternatives.
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July 23, 2024, 10:54:19 AM |
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If you play in good casino you don`t lose your money but lose your time. It is bad, but it is better than losing your money in unknown cheating casino.
I don't understand what you mean by losing time if one play in good casino because definitely time is required to play in casino and I don't consider such time as being lost because it is invested in something worthwhile. What I understand as losing time is when someone engages in activities that does not bring back anything meaningful and casino does not qualify as that because people do win massively. I mean that you spend some time for KYC but as the result you`ll get your money. You can lose several days, waiting KYC and your money. Most times i KYCed in 1-2 days, but there were several situations when it took about a week. For me though, I've never had to submit my kyc documents for verification on any platform and had to wait up to a week, by any platform, i mean gambling casinos actually, but talk about crypto exchanges, the exchanges platform where it got them that much time (over a week actually) to get my account verified after I've submitted kyc documents they requested fo, was XT.com exchange, yeah, and I did not actually make a big deal of it since beforehand, I understood that they are one of the shitty exchanges around. Coming back to passing kyc verification on gambling casinos, I would say that majorly all good casinos processes their customers kyc verification request within a day or maximum of 3 days if late, any casino that takes longer than this to verify their users kyc information is shitty to me. Awful cryptocurrency exchange. Even without KYC it is one of the worst exchanges i`ve used. I was KYCed very often and can say that several times i was KYCed about a week. It was videocall, with asking the questions about gambling, why i decided to make such a bet, the football rules, etc. It is only about good, well-known casinos. Twice i was KYCed about a month and got decreased withdrawal limits, with wagering requirements. As the result i withdraw my money about 2 months. It was less than $1000.
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July 23, 2024, 12:41:17 PM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons. There are cases that it will be denied if the picture of your ID is blur or each side has not been presented well. But other cases than that if everything has been fulfilled then I guess there's no point for casino to denied your KYC verification. I can only see this happening to those site which do delaying tactics so that what people request especially withdrawal will take time or just denied the withdrawal made by that person. Trusted casino didn't do any further more issues if they see that all documents has been presented well that's why its good to choose reputable casino so that we can avoid any problems regarding on this matter.
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delfastTions
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July 23, 2024, 03:52:48 PM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons. There are cases that it will be denied if the picture of your ID is blur or each side has not been presented well. But other cases than that if everything has been fulfilled then I guess there's no point for casino to denied your KYC verification. I can only see this happening to those site which do delaying tactics so that what people request especially withdrawal will take time or just denied the withdrawal made by that person. Trusted casino didn't do any further more issues if they see that all documents has been presented well that's why its good to choose reputable casino so that we can avoid any problems regarding on this matter. No matter what ultra-reliable casino you choose, there is still a possibility of troubles or red tape in the process of withdrawing your funds from the casino to your wallet. There may also be repeated KYC, even though you have previously provided your personal data to this casino. By the way, it is the realization that almost always you begin the process of withdrawing a lot of money from the casino to your account and in the background you still think about what other nasty things you can expect from the casino. And this applies to any casino and a large famous one, and if there are suspicions that the casino is operating semi-legally, or even more so that the casino owners are scammers, all these unpleasant actions are amplified a hundred times over. All this is clearly a negative component of such a wonderful entertainment as gambling.
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Fivestar4everMVP
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July 23, 2024, 08:36:07 PM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons. There are cases that it will be denied if the picture of your ID is blur or each side has not been presented well. But other cases than that if everything has been fulfilled then I guess there's no point for casino to denied your KYC verification. I can only see this happening to those site which do delaying tactics so that what people request especially withdrawal will take time or just denied the withdrawal made by that person. Trusted casino didn't do any further more issues if they see that all documents has been presented well that's why its good to choose reputable casino so that we can avoid any problems regarding on this matter. That's right actually, and besides, a reputable and trustworthy platform will not reject a user's kyc verification request without telling the reason why the documents the user submitted for the kyc verification is being rejected, any platform that reject a user's kyc request without stating the reason why the request is being rejected is either bugged, or the platform have some interior motives, which basically might be to frustrate the user into giving up his or her withdrawal request, but go ahead to gamble away the funds instead. But again, like you rightly said, all this can be avoided by simply choosing to play on a reputable casino where paying their customers winning isnt a problem to them regardless of the amount of money involved.
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July 25, 2024, 05:32:06 AM |
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That's right actually, and besides, a reputable and trustworthy platform will not reject a user's kyc verification request without telling the reason why the documents the user submitted for the kyc verification is being rejected, any platform that reject a user's kyc request without stating the reason why the request is being rejected is either bugged, or the platform have some interior motives, which basically might be to frustrate the user into giving up his or her withdrawal request, but go ahead to gamble away the funds instead.
But again, like you rightly said, all this can be avoided by simply choosing to play on a reputable casino where paying their customers winning isnt a problem to them regardless of the amount of money involved.
This is actually a tactic that some casinos use in order to try to avoid paying to money they owe to their clients, they know very well that the documents that were submitted to them are legitimate, but they use dilatory tactics hoping that at some point the gambler will get desperate and gamble their money away. And the tactic seems to be effective, as it is relatively common to read the complaints of casinos customers that had this happen to them and lost all the money they had won at the time.
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July 25, 2024, 09:26:22 AM |
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Money laundering mostly stops by wagering requirements. Casino KYC you if they have doubts in your honesty. Unfortunately, such doubts they have if you begin to win. And they have no any doubts when you deposit money. On one hand - there is nothing to be afraid in KYC. On the other hand - today KYC is used mostly against gamblers, not for its real purpose.
The reason why most person are all very serious about their KYC is because most of the time some casino do sell it out but although some of the casino that do that are the ones with no reputation at all but even at that many gambler are still very conscious of the data they do submit to the casino. But like you said there is actually no need to panic if you are clear beside it's a matter of seconds or minute for the verification of the details you submit for reputable casino. I understand the challenge with submitting KYC to untrusted platforms but the truth is that the advantages of playing in a casino that request for KYC during registration is higher than those that does not require KYC but might turn around to ask for it when there is heavy winning. That attitude is a sign of irresponsibility wrapped under criminal intentions. There have been countless cases of people losing significant income due to casinos requesting KYC after winning; I consider this a deliberate attempt to steal people's fund. I see the "untrusted" remark to be a reason for a restraint, any casino you do not have a high degree of trust in should not be considered for registering not to mention submitting your details and documents with them. This is especially the new ones that are just sprouting up like mushrooms and the old ones that are not reputable with too many complaints by people. People are victims of data leaks daily and most of them will never be known by the victims. They may just be leaked for some purposes, especially for email and phone numbers where you might not know it's from them. In rare cases, some bad actors may find a way to clone the passport ID of another simply because they are privy to their data, we've heard and read enough of the risks associated with this KYC. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about it, it's the government and the casinos that are cutting the shot here. The saddest part is that the government that mandated it is not proactively responsible for its proper regulation under some strict conditions. They might build a bridge where any government-approved casinos will not get the data directly but from the government data bank. The casino platform will only be a bridge to accept it while the government do the verification and gives the casino the signal whether it is verified or not. This will reduce data falling into the wrong hands.
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July 25, 2024, 02:36:00 PM |
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That's right actually, and besides, a reputable and trustworthy platform will not reject a user's kyc verification request without telling the reason why the documents the user submitted for the kyc verification is being rejected, any platform that reject a user's kyc request without stating the reason why the request is being rejected is either bugged, or the platform have some interior motives, which basically might be to frustrate the user into giving up his or her withdrawal request, but go ahead to gamble away the funds instead.
But again, like you rightly said, all this can be avoided by simply choosing to play on a reputable casino where paying their customers winning isnt a problem to them regardless of the amount of money involved.
This is actually a tactic that some casinos use in order to try to avoid paying to money they owe to their clients, they know very well that the documents that were submitted to them are legitimate, but they use dilatory tactics hoping that at some point the gambler will get desperate and gamble their money away. And the tactic seems to be effective, as it is relatively common to read the complaints of casinos customers that had this happen to them and lost all the money they had won at the time. I don't know of any casinos like this, but the way it might be done is quite logical by canceling the KYC of the user who is going to make a withdrawal, but it might also happen that the country of the user is prohibited in that casino which can cancel the acceptance of KYC, or it could be unclear or whatever even without providing information. But it would be a pity if there are casinos that do such fraudulent tricks to their users, it is very embarrassing and I am today becoming more careful in using new gambling sites, this makes a little scared, because after all the data provided to the casino is personal data and it is very important to protect.
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July 27, 2024, 07:05:39 PM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons. There are cases that it will be denied if the picture of your ID is blur or each side has not been presented well. But other cases than that if everything has been fulfilled then I guess there's no point for casino to denied your KYC verification. I can only see this happening to those site which do delaying tactics so that what people request especially withdrawal will take time or just denied the withdrawal made by that person. Trusted casino didn't do any further more issues if they see that all documents has been presented well that's why its good to choose reputable casino so that we can avoid any problems regarding on this matter. That's right actually, and besides, a reputable and trustworthy platform will not reject a user's kyc verification request without telling the reason why the documents the user submitted for the kyc verification is being rejected, any platform that reject a user's kyc request without stating the reason why the request is being rejected is either bugged, or the platform have some interior motives, which basically might be to frustrate the user into giving up his or her withdrawal request, but go ahead to gamble away the funds instead. But again, like you rightly said, all this can be avoided by simply choosing to play on a reputable casino where paying their customers winning isnt a problem to them regardless of the amount of money involved. Not at all yet there would really be those old and known sites does reject KYC submission by those players who do have some pending withdrawals or issues. Take a look on this one. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5503427.0 This is recent and despite of submitting those valid documents or ID but still it was rejected without being explained on whats the reason behind such fail on accepting. Somehow, when you do deal up with old or known site then you could really be at least having that kind of confidence that issues could really be that resolved but on the time or moment that you do find yourself dealing up with new sites then high chances that you are being scammed by such platform. For those sudden transitions from non KYC to KYC then it would really be just that normal because platforms or business such as this would really be having that kind of huge amount of money that goes inside and out then you could really expect that regulation and licensing would really be that needed and this is why users of such sites will really be ending up on complying these things.
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July 30, 2024, 07:48:39 AM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons. There are cases that it will be denied if the picture of your ID is blur or each side has not been presented well. But other cases than that if everything has been fulfilled then I guess there's no point for casino to denied your KYC verification. I can only see this happening to those site which do delaying tactics so that what people request especially withdrawal will take time or just denied the withdrawal made by that person. Trusted casino didn't do any further more issues if they see that all documents has been presented well that's why its good to choose reputable casino so that we can avoid any problems regarding on this matter. That's right actually, and besides, a reputable and trustworthy platform will not reject a user's kyc verification request without telling the reason why the documents the user submitted for the kyc verification is being rejected, any platform that reject a user's kyc request without stating the reason why the request is being rejected is either bugged, or the platform have some interior motives, which basically might be to frustrate the user into giving up his or her withdrawal request, but go ahead to gamble away the funds instead. But again, like you rightly said, all this can be avoided by simply choosing to play on a reputable casino where paying their customers winning isnt a problem to them regardless of the amount of money involved. Not at all yet there would really be those old and known sites does reject KYC submission by those players who do have some pending withdrawals or issues. Take a look on this one. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5503427.0 This is recent and despite of submitting those valid documents or ID but still it was rejected without being explained on whats the reason behind such fail on accepting. Somehow, when you do deal up with old or known site then you could really be at least having that kind of confidence that issues could really be that resolved but on the time or moment that you do find yourself dealing up with new sites then high chances that you are being scammed by such platform. For those sudden transitions from non KYC to KYC then it would really be just that normal because platforms or business such as this would really be having that kind of huge amount of money that goes inside and out then you could really expect that regulation and licensing would really be that needed and this is why users of such sites will really be ending up on complying these things. It’s just such sudden transitions from the fact that KYC was not required, and as soon as the player begins to withdraw his money to his wallet, then suddenly KYC becomes necessary, and are that disgusting action on the part of the casino that can completely ruin all the high and festive mood player that arose after winning. In my opinion, this is generally one of the most serious problems in the entire gambling industry with payments in cryptocurrencies. And since payments are made in cryptocurrencies, such a problem should not have existed at all, in principle, based on the status of the cryptocurrencies themselves. However, over the past decades, regulators from different countries and anti-money laundering fighters have simply come up with it for all of us. And now, out of nowhere, they have created an extra problem for all the players. And the question arises: why the hell was this done and who came up with all this?
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July 30, 2024, 09:51:07 AM |
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I don't know of any casinos like this, but the way it might be done is quite logical by canceling the KYC of the user who is going to make a withdrawal, but it might also happen that the country of the user is prohibited in that casino which can cancel the acceptance of KYC, or it could be unclear or whatever even without providing information.
But it would be a pity if there are casinos that do such fraudulent tricks to their users, it is very embarrassing and I am today becoming more careful in using new gambling sites, this makes a little scared, because after all the data provided to the casino is personal data and it is very important to protect.
Only scammy casino would do this but if you play only on reputable casino such as Stake then you don’t need to worry about this issue as long as your document that you will submit is clear and eligible to the casino requirements. The scammy casino tactics confused already the general public about the KYC. This thread also created a messy discussion that leads to more confusion. Just play on trusted casino and you will never have an issue regarding the KYC.
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July 30, 2024, 10:56:02 AM |
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I don't know of any casinos like this, but the way it might be done is quite logical by canceling the KYC of the user who is going to make a withdrawal, but it might also happen that the country of the user is prohibited in that casino which can cancel the acceptance of KYC, or it could be unclear or whatever even without providing information.
But it would be a pity if there are casinos that do such fraudulent tricks to their users, it is very embarrassing and I am today becoming more careful in using new gambling sites, this makes a little scared, because after all the data provided to the casino is personal data and it is very important to protect.
Only scammy casino would do this but if you play only on reputable casino such as Stake then you don’t need to worry about this issue as long as your document that you will submit is clear and eligible to the casino requirements. The scammy casino tactics confused already the general public about the KYC. This thread also created a messy discussion that leads to more confusion. Just play on trusted casino and you will never have an issue regarding the KYC. Right only scam casino would do such actions since if the player is submitting all necessary documents what they asked then there's no reason for them to cancel anything just to stop or delay the withdrawal of their user. Usually on scams are doing this since obviously they don't want people to withdraw on their casino and maybe this scam casino think that if people will be impatient in that situation they would just spend then their money and lost everything, from that they can escape on their obligation to those people who request a withdrawal in their casino. Cases like this really happen that's why this is one of the reason why we should not gamble on unknown casino so we can avoid experiencing this situation. Choose only the best or reputable since for sure we cannot experience that and we can gamble without worrying anything since for sure trusted casino will comply anything especially if they legitimately request for withdrawals.
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July 31, 2024, 09:27:18 PM |
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I don't know of any casinos like this, but the way it might be done is quite logical by canceling the KYC of the user who is going to make a withdrawal, but it might also happen that the country of the user is prohibited in that casino which can cancel the acceptance of KYC, or it could be unclear or whatever even without providing information.
But it would be a pity if there are casinos that do such fraudulent tricks to their users, it is very embarrassing and I am today becoming more careful in using new gambling sites, this makes a little scared, because after all the data provided to the casino is personal data and it is very important to protect.
Only scammy casino would do this but if you play only on reputable casino such as Stake then you don’t need to worry about this issue as long as your document that you will submit is clear and eligible to the casino requirements. The scammy casino tactics confused already the general public about the KYC. This thread also created a messy discussion that leads to more confusion. Just play on trusted casino and you will never have an issue regarding the KYC. Right only scam casino would do such actions since if the player is submitting all necessary documents what they asked then there's no reason for them to cancel anything just to stop or delay the withdrawal of their user. Usually on scams are doing this since obviously they don't want people to withdraw on their casino and maybe this scam casino think that if people will be impatient in that situation they would just spend then their money and lost everything, from that they can escape on their obligation to those people who request a withdrawal in their casino. Cases like this really happen that's why this is one of the reason why we should not gamble on unknown casino so we can avoid experiencing this situation. Choose only the best or reputable since for sure we cannot experience that and we can gamble without worrying anything since for sure trusted casino will comply anything especially if they legitimately request for withdrawals. It will be very disappointing and will make people very distrustful of casinos again and lazy to play, even at other casinos that are growing into good casinos. And we should indeed use a casino that has a clear reputation besides Stake also I often use Duelbits, Bitcasino, Rollbit because they are casinos that have been very trusted in my eyes to this day, their problem solving with several complaints from their customers is really very good. I don't want the 1xbit incident to happen again on the forum, they built a good reputation here then they cheated a lot of people here.
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July 31, 2024, 10:04:34 PM |
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So far I have one verified gambling account only which is my Stake's account, it was not a long process since my account was verified within few hours only. Of course the speed of the verification process will be depending on some factors, the most crucial one is the human resources on the platform who are in charge to do the verification process. The more staffs (both in number and experience) who is handling it = the faster verification process IMO. I have not done other KYC in other casinos so I have no idea about average speed, but I have to agree that such verification process should not be done in more than 3 working days.
Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play. However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons. This is why it is always advisable to complete KYC before you play in any casino. Whenever it is related to Casino, they will only be strict during withdrawals. For the business to remain in operation, deposit must be more than withdrawal and that is why some casinos deliberately frustrate withdrawal. It is always nice to read the casino ToS as regards withdrawal and KYV before playing.
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