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Author Topic: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS); New style, new services, same unique features  (Read 179860 times)
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June 12, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
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I guess the easiest way to find developers would be if we had a special place for announcements whenever a project is looking for devs. I'm still hoping we get a FedoraCoin forum for these things.
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how do you propose we go on from here?

There's pro's and con's to using btctalk to seek devs.  

In favour of a FedoraCoin forum is that any developers who've gone there to read will be more committed to seeing Fedoracoin do well, versus devs who might be attracted on btctalk by the payment model, but are thus equally likely to be lured off project by something promising bigger rewards.

In favour of btctalk is the sheer exposure - lots of eyes here to read.

My personal preference is to have a separate Fedora forum for idea generation/fleshing out/preparation, and ideally to have interested developers head there from links here.  That way only ones interested enough to click the link will end up reading the project blurb.  

I don't think there's a massive rush - crypto is an area where getting it right is more important than being first, and the only impatient ones are the traders who want to pump prices and make profit.

The challenge at this stage will always be finding competent devs who are motivated to deliver.  Heck, the number of ideas I've got floating around has me wanting to pick up coding again and get to grips with blockchains (used to write java/c++ in the late 90's).  

I have just started re-reading Design Patterns to refresh my memory, and wondering where my reference books are (I think I recycled a lot of them a few years ago Cheesy), but small kids, work and other committed hobbies are in the way, so unless I suddenly get rich enough not to need to work, its a low priority.

I proposed an idea also long ago about the ability to create short names to connect them to a public key, so artists don't have to print out a QR

Nice idea - something like tinyurl for addresses.  Had me looking into domain names lol.. tip.pr seems to be available.

The mechanics are surprisingly complex for a simple idea tho - lots of questions and use-cases to resolve.  I guess thats the nature of a new market - no clear cut and established processes to follow.

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How/when does translation of the tip.pr url happen to TIPS address - in the tipper's client?  via an intermediary app/wallet?
What currencies would tippers tip in?  only TIPS?  or BTC/LTC and convert implicitly to TIPS?  even fiat (paypal/creditcard) like worldof.tips?
How to make money to fund the service/site?  Percentage of tips?  Percentage of converted currencies? (i.e. make it free for TIPS->TIPS and encourage uptake)
Which legal jurisdictions can this be done in without problems?

Gah.. need dev skills again.

Interesting project! I know I am too late, but where can I buy some TIPS. Sorry if this is known info and the question is slightly off topic.

Cryptsy is the most liquid market for TIPS - currently you can buy at 0.00000006 LTC, or sit it out in the queue at 5 and hope the price falls.

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yep, all that is very exciting and theose are exciting problems that need to be solved in order to build those services, ie. we need to have those projects going with developers working on them, ideally they would be excited themselves about it and wanting to see the projects finished. So instead of hiring somebody for short term payments and telling them exactly what to do, I would rather go for models where the devs get rewarded in the long run by being part of the final product, like we build a team and make a business out of the idea and we have gains if we were successful in the end.
I think for the question of short names linked to the public addresses we probably could learn from Bitshares who I think created exactly that using Bitcoin last year.
Maybe we could try to make a business out of this physical TiPS idea by providing the services and for that taking a percentage of the tips like I suggested in the proposal, what do you think?

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June 13, 2014, 06:15:15 AM
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yep, all that is very exciting and theose are exciting problems that need to be solved in order to build those services, ie. we need to have those projects going with developers working on them, ideally they would be excited themselves about it and wanting to see the projects finished. So instead of hiring somebody for short term payments and telling them exactly what to do, I would rather go for models where the devs get rewarded in the long run by being part of the final product, like we build a team and make a business out of the idea and we have gains if we were successful in the end.
I think for the question of short names linked to the public addresses we probably could learn from Bitshares who I think created exactly that using Bitcoin last year.
Maybe we could try to make a business out of this physical TiPS idea by providing the services and for that taking a percentage of the tips like I suggested in the proposal, what do you think?

I totally agree with your statement on developper. IMHO, we could already start a fund for the existing team, who worked for free until now. They should probably get enough skills to work on some of the projects you proposed. Or certainly know people who can join the team, even as a free-lance on a particular project. Dark things happen on IRC you know Wink

Regarding the forum, even if I backed you up on the noble quest of getting back the old one, I have to explain why icanprogram was a bit reluctant.
When we launched the forum at the beginning of the year, the same idea was regularly popping out the community's brain : "hey, we need a proper forum to discuss". Unfortunately it was never used nor visited and maintaining it took more time than the time people spent writing down subjects.

Finally, I'm not sure I understand what Bitshares is actually doing...  Huh
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hm, I see the problem. I guess the network (community) wasn't big enough, and I guess it's still small right now. we still have less than 2000 subscribers on reddit. but on the other hand, if we want it to grow then we need such a place and hopefully little action will draw more action. and I think we have at least a few active members who would want to get involved and take part.

I'm all for the current devs if they like any of those projects to take them up, I would like to fund them and support them. I guess that's also why I would like to have that forum, it's supposed to let us know what is going on in each project. if it's only in the background then we can't know enough to support, and we cannot contribute. I also don't know how they do their work right now if only on IRC, I think a forum with a structure would help them also organize better especially if the number of projects should grow. but icanprogramm agreed to do it and I guess he'll have it active again soon Smiley, I hope his effort won't be for nothing I hope this time it will be different else I would feel guilty about it pushing so hard Grin.

So then it's our responsibility to get the action going, I think we can start a number of ideas that are already available and announce them here and on reddit so those who are interested can get involved. If we are like 10 people only interested in the forum in the start and active, I think we could make it happen. I suggest we also look at the structure and decide what sections make the best sense, and maybe assign different people as managers to the different sections depending on their interests and they would take care of keeping it organized and active, announcing new stuff to reddit etc.

About bitshares, I did not grasp the concept back then but here is the letstalkbitcoin interview with them, it seems the names are on the blockchain and you need to mine them so not sure if this concept could be of any use to us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHp261AsW5o
Anyway, I guess if we could find a practical solution to implement then we could market it to the artists based on this feature. maybe it's worth it.

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for the problem of identities instead of the long address I see we could also use the alias system of NXT: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Alias_System

maybe over some service we allow people to create an alias on the NXT network and assign their FedoraCoin public key to it, and the FedoraCoin wallet would get the ability to use that system. It seems to be easy to integrate since it can be installed on the browser.

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June 14, 2014, 10:03:52 PM
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for the problem of identities instead of the long address I see we could also use the alias system of NXT: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Alias_System

maybe over some service we allow people to create an alias on the NXT network and assign their FedoraCoin public key to it, and the FedoraCoin wallet would get the ability to use that system. It seems to be easy to integrate since it can be installed on the browser.

I don't know. Don't like too much the idea of being dependent of another crypto network or tools... Anyway we can bring something FedoraCoin genuine? Is the code opensource?
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So I was weighing up whether it was worth mining or buying TIPS to increase my holding from miniscule to tiny.. and noticed that the front post could do with some major cleanup.

Can someone who reads this update the first post?  icanprogram? fargusson?

Here's the working pools in the list:

http://fedora.pcfil.com/
http://chickenstrips.net/
http://fedora.coin-pool.org/
https://www.multipool.us/  (TIPS not enabled on multiport any more - not sure if TIPS are mineable here?)
https://www.cryptopoolmining.com/tips/
https://tips.pool.enterprises/
https://coinking.io/

And these look like they're no longer around:

http://tips.notnull.org/
http://www.verters.com/mvpool/fedoracoin
https://minr.es/
http://tips.4upool.com/
http://coinminer.net:19988/static/
http://cloud.epools.eu/tips/
http://tips.dnsbl.ro/

Current network hashrate is around 435MHs, so its currently cheaper to just buy TIPS on market than mine it with a rental rig, if the goal is to accumulate TIPS Smiley

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for the problem of identities instead of the long address I see we could also use the alias system of NXT: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Alias_System

maybe over some service we allow people to create an alias on the NXT network and assign their FedoraCoin public key to it, and the FedoraCoin wallet would get the ability to use that system. It seems to be easy to integrate since it can be installed on the browser.

I don't know. Don't like too much the idea of being dependent of another crypto network or tools... Anyway we can bring something FedoraCoin genuine? Is the code opensource?

Yah NXT is open source!

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for the problem of identities instead of the long address I see we could also use the alias system of NXT: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Alias_System

maybe over some service we allow people to create an alias on the NXT network and assign their FedoraCoin public key to it, and the FedoraCoin wallet would get the ability to use that system. It seems to be easy to integrate since it can be installed on the browser.

I don't know. Don't like too much the idea of being dependent of another crypto network or tools... Anyway we can bring something FedoraCoin genuine? Is the code opensource?

Yah NXT is open source!

So anyway we can get their source code to implement our own... Wait, you lost me... What is this thing all about? An online wallet right?


So I was weighing up whether it was worth mining or buying TIPS to increase my holding from miniscule to tiny.. and noticed that the front post could do with some major cleanup.

Can someone who reads this update the first post?  icanprogram? fargusson?

Here's the working pools in the list:

http://fedora.pcfil.com/
http://chickenstrips.net/
http://fedora.coin-pool.org/
https://www.multipool.us/  (TIPS not enabled on multiport any more - not sure if TIPS are mineable here?)
https://www.cryptopoolmining.com/tips/
https://tips.pool.enterprises/
https://coinking.io/

And these look like they're no longer around:

http://tips.notnull.org/
http://www.verters.com/mvpool/fedoracoin
https://minr.es/
http://tips.4upool.com/
http://coinminer.net:19988/static/
http://cloud.epools.eu/tips/
http://tips.dnsbl.ro/

Current network hashrate is around 435MHs, so its currently cheaper to just buy TIPS on market than mine it with a rental rig, if the goal is to accumulate TIPS Smiley

I'm gonna do it right away! Thanks a lot for your feedback.

EDIT: Done! By the way, I didn't your qestion up there about Multipool.us.
The thing is that we asked Multipool to unlist FedoraCoin from their Multiport. With TiPS being the most profitable scrypt coin to mine, we were Under a lot of pressure with the massive dump from Multipool.us. Adam, the mod, kindly accepted to do so, that's why FedoraCoin aren't on Multiport anymore. Nonetheless you can mine it using the dedicated port.




By the way, for people interesting in supporting TiPStarter, show some support over here!

And don't forget to vote for FedoraCoin here!


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Vote for TIPS.

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Done !  Smiley

Go tips, go !

By the way, I still am convinced that Tips will be one of the alts that will brilliantly shine during the upcoming bitcoin rally.

It will shine like a sparkling white light, stabbing forth like a radiant white flame amidst the darkness and despair that are the regular pump&dump coins out there.
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Done !  Smiley

Go tips, go !

By the way, I still am convinced that Tips will be one of the alts that will brilliantly shine during the upcoming bitcoin rally.

It will shine like a sparkling white light, stabbing forth like a radiant white flame amidst the darkness and despair that are the regular pump&dump coins out there.
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Great Effort, I still can't Believe the Current Price  Undecided

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The thing is that we asked Multipool to unlist FedoraCoin from their Multiport. With TiPS being the most profitable scrypt coin to mine, we were Under a lot of pressure with the massive dump from Multipool.us. Adam, the mod, kindly accepted to do so, that's why FedoraCoin aren't on Multiport anymore.

Brilliant, months ago someone said there was one pool dumping huge amounts of tips that was keeping the price down. The price might start to rise again now.
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June 17, 2014, 08:40:04 PM
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Tired of watching, and only watching, the FIFA World cup on your TV? You sure knew that Costa Rica was going to beat Uruguay to the punch?

So FedoraBets is for you!

FedoraBets is a simple game by FedoraCoin's team which allows you to bet on your favourite team victory using TiPS.

You will find all the rules here.
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June 18, 2014, 07:40:18 AM
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AWESOME!
Yeah, Karma Coin has a World Cup betting pool going and a few investors have also talked about a NON-USA based sports betting website to use Karma exclusively.
Would love something like this for TIPS, or a joint effort possibly with Karma if there was a coder that wanted to take up and run with the idea and we investors here at TIPS agreed upon it.

Keep voting over at coinwarz to include TIPS in their most profitable coins to mine list please.



Tired of watching, and only watching, the FIFA World cup on your TV? You sure knew that Costa Rica was going to beat Uruguay to the punch?

So FedoraBets is for you!

FedoraBets is a simple game by FedoraCoin's team which allows you to bet on your favourite team victory using TiPS.

You will find all the rules here.
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June 18, 2014, 08:08:15 AM
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Spreading the love already  Grin
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1478427829039015/permalink/1501435300071601/

Fargusson, about NXT, we were talking about finding a way for users to send TiPS to short names instead of a long public key or using QR. NXT was a suggestion since you can use it to define an alias, ie, you enter "nxt:what-ever-name-you-chose" and it automatically connects you to the substitute you defined which could be a website, or the public key of your FedoraCoin wallet or whatever you want. it seems to be an easy thing to implement that's why I suggested it.

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June 18, 2014, 08:18:15 AM
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Tired of watching, and only watching, the FIFA World cup on your TV? You sure knew that Costa Rica was going to beat Uruguay to the punch?

So FedoraBets is for you!

FedoraBets is a simple game by FedoraCoin's team which allows you to bet on your favourite team victory using TiPS.

You will find all the rules here.

I had the same idea last night and was about to post it here, good you have already thought this out and made something out of it.
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June 23, 2014, 12:25:09 AM
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keep voting up Tips peeps.. http://www.coinwarz.com/voting
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June 23, 2014, 02:34:32 AM
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yep, all that is very exciting and theose are exciting problems that need to be solved in order to build those services, ie. we need to have those projects going with developers working on them, ideally they would be excited themselves about it and wanting to see the projects finished. So instead of hiring somebody for short term payments and telling them exactly what to do, I would rather go for models where the devs get rewarded in the long run by being part of the final product, like we build a team and make a business out of the idea and we have gains if we were successful in the end.
I think for the question of short names linked to the public addresses we probably could learn from Bitshares who I think created exactly that using Bitcoin last year.
Maybe we could try to make a business out of this physical TiPS idea by providing the services and for that taking a percentage of the tips like I suggested in the proposal, what do you think?
Great, this is a good step towards even better community if done as you said.

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