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August 26, 2014, 09:20:02 AM
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I also agree to have id10tothe9 hold the fund.

+1 if id10tothe9 would agree.

Do we have the github account credentials to make the necessary code changes?

I think I missed your question last time Smiley
yes we have the account credentials, not directly but icanprogram has full authority to make all changes needed, so we can let them happen through him. Or worst case copy them to a new github directory.

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August 26, 2014, 09:24:53 AM
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Fedora needs to be part of this:

http://casheer.net/

Everyone please take a look and if you all agree, find out what we need to to...

PS: Also agree for 1d10tothe9 to hold and manage funds.

wow sounds great and looks professional. It seems it's still being built and right now we can only subscribe to the news letter to get updates. There is a multi-sig option which is cool and might be useful for the fund management hehe. I'm also amused it's built upon Ripple, they still have a fighting chance let's see what the future brings Wink
And sure when this becomes available we should try to integrate with them I'd say!

Edit: added the link to the list of suggested ideas. (this is how we can start to manage the good ideas and not forget them Wink)

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August 26, 2014, 09:31:47 AM
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Fedora needs to be part of this:

http://casheer.net/

Everyone please take a look and if you all agree, find out what we need to to...

That doesn't seem to be out yet... Check out https://pay.withfedoraco.in, that's up, dedicated and doesn't look horrible

I tried contacting them per email some month ago but never got a reply. do you have contact with them? Also I never understood what they were doing, are there services already using it? are they still operational?

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August 26, 2014, 09:40:48 AM
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Here's a user friendly twitter 'tip bot' someone created for CLD
If it's open source we could do the same for TIPS ??

"Tipping with TIPS" makes more sense than "Tipping with CLD"   Grin Roll Eyes Grin

Triff ..

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Help us RT

https://twitter.com/xcloudcoin/status/502752582809305088


Dont forget we can now use the tipbot


XCloudCoin Twitter Tipbot @tipcld

Now every user of Twitter can send and receive XCloudCoin without having a wallet installed! Generate a deposit address, send some coins and start sending XCloudCoin to whoever you want, who has a Twitter account.
How to deposit

To deposit and start sending coins, please go to your Twitter dashboard and tweet: @tipcld deposit. In a few seconds the bot will reply to you with a deposit address, to which you can send coins, which will later appear in your tipping balance.

After you're done with sending coins to the deposit address, it may take a few minutes for your coins to appear in your available, confirmed balance. To check your balance, tweet @tipcld balance.

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Bears repeating !!

"Tipping with TIPS" makes more sense than "Tipping with CLD"   Grin Roll Eyes Grin

Here is our Twitter Tipping bot: https://twitter.com/tipfedora, we can already use it to send tips in a similar manner as we do on reddit.
but can somebody tell me what is http://fedoracoin.coinlabs.org/twitter/, who owns it and why the instruction for the tip bot there are now with blackcoin instead of tips as it was before?

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August 26, 2014, 09:53:35 AM
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it seems you would be making great contributions if you were on the 'Research Node' Grin (among others!). please consider volunteering! I added the link to the list of ideas. don't have enough time to look into it right now, but maybe somebody else can?
Also what do you think about integrating with the BTCD network?? They are building a super network for payments through all coins, also soon will get visa/mastercard payments and anon card through coinomat. in addition to other very awesome features, decentralized exchanges, true anonymity in addition to dividends to benefit our coin. can be only beneficial for tips. there will be some API interface as I understand and not very difficult to do. Check their thread here.

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August 26, 2014, 09:59:18 AM
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Hmm hmm hmm. TIPS anyone?

http://coinsis.com/Card/Coinsis.html

Scroll down and watch the funny, retro music video.

The 3 Vericoin Devs making this happen:
http://vericoinnews.info/latest-news/introducing-the-vericard/



wow nice stuff. I like the page design and the progress tabs for the projects being done! this is something we've been talking about long ago http://vericoinnews.info/vericoin-roadmap/. Guys it's time to make this stuff finally happen!

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August 26, 2014, 10:16:11 AM
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Ok guys, thanks a lot again for your trust to let me handle the fund. I can set up an address on my wallet and create a strong password to make it safe, is that the best way to go? Or maybe I should create a cold wallet (need some help with that). again if there are any other methods to make it more secure, and trustworthy let me know. Maybe I can do this in the beginning until we modify the code and include a multi-sig feature, in which case we will have a 'Fund Management' team with the multi-sig and the fund can be spent only in consensus of those members after the community votes.

we still need a lead dev and contacting devs we think might be interested. if you have somebody in mind or know body sure text them or post here so that I or somebody can contact them. (ultron are you still interested in joining the dev team?)

Current list of donations as documented by thiec:
$dakini = 10m
RJF = 1m + 9m
thiec = 2m + 1m
Triffin = 3m
dimke_yu = 5m
id10tothe9 = 20m
mouseman = 10m

(Sum = 61m TiPS Smiley)
and I guess more will come when we start working!

Bag holder / Potential to donate :
Catanonia = 2b (2,000m)

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August 26, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
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Thank you for your post.  I have enjoyed researching each coin over the preceding months.  There are only a few more coins which need attention before all coin sections are completed.

Wink


Fedoracoin TIPS has its own four page section in my book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" Reference Book.  Here is the thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.0

I will document all major historical events for TIPS as well as the current coin specifications.  I have been working on the book for a few months.  If you would like to help fund this future publication, here is my TIPS wallet address:

EbjEBNmAX551trBgP9vJeEj9msohjcuvKd

hey tyke that's an awesome project! I will send you some tips in few days when I get the time and open my wallet Smiley
you know all you need to know about tips history since 4chan? I myself don't know all the details and would be interested in reading all about it hehe. I think there are pretty interesting details, if you don't know all ask here I'm sure some of the members who've here since the beginning can help further.

just sent 1m TiPS, thanks for your efforts and wish you good luck!
I'll PM you our final results when we come up with TiPS 2.0!

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Ok so I went through the files we have till now on gdrive, reorganised and edited the contents as far as I could for now. Some further work needs to be done but for that I need help from you guys! so feel free to check them out and do your magic Wink Here is the structure we have so far (underlined are file holders, tilted are the documents):

All About Tips - Public Folder:
  • 1. Organizer
  • 2. TiPS Plan
  • 3. Brain of TiPS
  • 4. Urgent ToDo List
  • 1. Ideas Suggested
  • 2. Strategic ThinkTank
  • 3. Official
  • 4. Treasure Chest
  • 5. Temp
  • 6. Misc
  • 7. Projects

About the first 4 documents:
  • "1.Organizer" is intended as an explanation for the gdrive files and the contents of it. Also has a cool introduction for new members to know what TiPS is all about! Let me know if you like it and if you have suggestions. I put the text also as a description of the main file which you can read on the right hand side panel. The contents can be explained through my post here mostly, I can do it when I get the time, or maybe somebody is feeling up to the task Wink
  • "2. TiPS Plan" lists the next three steps we need to do in order to start up! Additionally it lists a number of issues we need to discuss here and make decisions about. Finally it includes a list of the proposed "Business" projects that the community can take up and start creating (with the original owner of the idea of course! we still want to protect intellectual property by acknowledging the creator and collaborating with him/her on building the project thereby becoming partners for the benefit of all).
  • "3. Brain of TiPS" is the structure of the organization I propose that we make in order to have distributed tasks and a "Brain" of the community through which all ideas flow and come together then get directed in a coordinated way and acted upon. the community is just the extension of the nervous system from which the impulses come and ideas, to meet with the other impulses, get processed, then commands going out again to be carried out ha! while it takes the form of a central entity, it's actually just the concentration needed for those nerves to be able to interact and create something new. At the same time, members on this "Brain" structure can be voted in and out by the community itself.
    so this file is just an excel file with a list of "nodes", if you like this name, with each node specializing in a needed area. eg. dev node, marketing node, thinktank node, PR node, research node etc. each of them will consist of a number of members from the community who volunteer to take up that responsibility. Each node will have one of its members (called 'node coordinator') responsible also of communication with the community and the other nodes' coordinators. think about those categories and let me know if you have any suggestions to change them. Also each node will have an input channel where members of the community can send their ideas, suggestions etc which are related to the speciality of that node. Also to solve one of the issues we have, which is work needs to be rewarded, one of the suggestions in the list of issues is to create a multipool which mines other coins and sells them to buy TiPS thereby supporting the buy level of the coin (I must admit I stole this cool idea from the btcd community Tongue). I'm assuming here that we will switch to a POS algo. Then part of those tips earned can be directed to the 'Brain Fund' from which the active node members get paid. As long as the community likes your work and keeps voting you on the node list, this means you are doing a good job and deserve to earn those tips.
  • "4. Urgent ToDo List" is self explanatory and we have 4 things listed in there!


Now to the other files in the main file:
1. Ideas Suggested includes
  • Ideas Suggested: where I added all the ideas that were suggested in the discussions we had since mid July
  • Ideas for code changes: further ideas that we could use to modify our code
  • Old Ideas: a list of ideas I wrote back in march
  • and other two old files: another list of old ideas I wrote and still need sorting through and adding to the main list we have

currently the files are all public, so anybody can write and contribute. In case at some point in the future we get too much chaos and contributions being done in the wrong places or whatever (which would be a great thing if we were getting all that contribution), then we can make the access of editing only for the members on the nodes list, while other members can contribute just as well through the suggest option. in that case what they write gets highlighted as a suggestion to be put in the right place by one of the editors.
The first file is the most important file, and this is where any idea from the community gets noted just to avoid it being forgotten as very often happened back in the beginning this year where we had the crazy activity going on here and the ideas just got covered by pages and pages of posts so no action could take place. This way we save the ideas of value and make sure to always empty this list, so take these ideas out one after the other, discuss and decide then delete when done. the other files still need some cleaning up, and maybe getting all the ideas together in one place. Anybody feeling up to this task? Grin

2. Strategic ThinkTank
  • Basic points to our strategy:includes four important lists:
    1. our goals: we need to discuss what markets we want to target etc, there is a link to a previous good post about that from which we can start discussion. the list can be expanded if you have ideas.
    2. current strengths of TiPS: what do we have going for us and should make good use of? I used the things already posted here by somebody previously.
    3. Our Methods: the general strategies and ways of how we should operate, as a community and as the Brain should do, eg. nurture a generous tipping culture, regular news letters from devs and other nodes on current progress and next steps, PR relations, memes etc.
    4. Fundamental changes for a new start: this is a very important list and I need to put it in a separate post. basically what suggestions have been made on changes to our code and maybe forking it, eg. switch to POS or NXT similar algo, reduce the number of coins so we can trade on the btc market etc! We need to discuss this very soon and get it done with!
  • How to organize our community: this discusses the 'Brain of TiPS' structure I talked about and the tools we could use to have better communication and task management. eg using trello for task management, and different apps available to notify community members about new changes in the gdrive files or new tasks etc, those are all tools that are already available. If somebody knows some useful tools post them here to add to the list! I'll put what I have in another post so we can choose and decide on what to use.

3. Official
This will include all official stuff like the thread text in different languages, pics and logo, a list of current threads etc and probably should move the 'Brain of TiPS' list there too.

4. Treasure Chest
It has a post made by Invisibel explaining about the mixing service he created. Later all such important core things, code related stuff etc can be put there. It's meant to be a place for the important things to TiPS.

5. Temp
Will be a place holder for stuff we need to do temporarily. eg. right now it has a list of questions somebody posted and we need to answer them as part of the discussion to know what to do next. It's on the task list for the community, so anybody who can please check it and try to help! I think we will have a trello board extra for the community itself so you can create new tasks and work on them voluntarily as a community to get more work done!

6. Misc
includes a file of pics I gathered over time since I found them really cool and can be useful for tips, we can put all kind of stuff there that doesn't fit elsewhere.

and finally 7. Projects
we have 2 candidate business proposals right now, one for a worldwide service that helps merchants start accepting TiPS as just tips from customers when they buy stuff, turning that into the merchants giving out TiPS as paper wallets we fund as bonus points for the customers and later on as a payment method which I proposed some time ago. the other one is the 'Tip The Champion' game for online and apps as proposed by Senator51 which I think is a really cool idea. Anybody who has a project proposal can create a new file and describe the idea there, and with time through the community's work together, the idea can evolve into a solid business plan that we can then create together. (Sure at some point will have its own file with all related documents inside). Well as you see I'm proposing open source collaboration here, but if some ideas need to be kept a secret for a while or a closed group from the community decide to work together just go ahead, and hopefully with the time our platforms will evolve to enable such features. maybe a dedicated forum that allows closed categories that require a password. Ok actually 3 proposals Grin, just added TiPS4tips which you already know as the facebook tipping group we have. Only it was just as a test bed to see how things go for this idea. What I have in mind is a webpage and a related app (which is more important I think) which does the same thing as Yahoo Answers, or Stack Exchange, only when a person asks a question they can set a bounty for the best answers, then people can give their answers and the best voted ones share the bounty. People already do that for no financial gains, I think when bounties are a bonus this would get more traffic and some people might use it to actually earn money through their expertise in some areas. Imagine what informatics etc experts in India or other poor countries can do with their cheap Android phone they are getting soon with free internet connection through google balloons etc to earn money answering questions from their homes.. We have unimaginable potential here for new businesses that never existed before, anyone from us, with no money but cool ideas and hard work can become a millionaire sooner than he/she thinks!

I created a Trello group here. Few boards now, but more to be added soon. But we need to fill the nodes positions with volunteers, so anybody feeling like becoming an active member? Wink

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August 28, 2014, 06:07:54 AM
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icanprogram, can you contact invisibel and ask him if he's interested in rejoining TiPS as a main dev?

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August 28, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
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I'm now refining a proposal to create TiPS 2.0.
it will be basically about switching to a POS algo, reduce total number of TiPS to get on the btc market and a few suggestions to support our needed development fund. and a few other things.
You can join me editing the file in the "2. Strategic ThinkTank" folder, or just post something to let me know there is still interest and motivate me to do the job!

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August 28, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
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Nice to see that someone is still looking after TIPS.
What will happen to the current coins in wallets if we switch to the POS?
There isn't any demand on TIPS right now, switching to POS might completely kill the coin. As with MINT, ZEIT and RDD, prices creeped down after POS implementation.
Lowering maximum TIPS might cause a short lived price spike, benefiting bag holders such as myself, but I don't see it benefiting the coin.
I believe the only way TIPS can be picked up by merchants or community is stable price, I haven't given this much thought but stacking TIPS against a $ value would be better than exchanging it into BTC, LTC or DOGE.
How much do we need to raise in TIPS donations to get the project moving?
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August 28, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
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I'm now refining a proposal to create TiPS 2.0.
it will be basically about switching to a POS algo, reduce total number of TiPS to get on the btc market and a few suggestions to support our needed development fund. and a few other things.
You can join me editing the file in the "2. Strategic ThinkTank" folder, or just post something to let me know there is still interest and motivate me to do the job!
You are doing an amazing job to revive this coin and is much appreciated.
We still need some interested devs to carry this coin forward as new features could be the only thing which can stir interest.
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August 28, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
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id10tothe9
Nice to see that someone is still looking after TIPS.
What will happen to the current coins in wallets if we switch to the POS?
There isn't any demand on TIPS right now, switching to POS might completely kill the coin. As with MINT, ZEIT and RDD, prices creeped down after POS implementation.
Lowering maximum TIPS might cause a short lived price spike, benefiting bag holders such as myself, but I don't see it benefiting the coin.
I believe the only way TIPS can be picked up by merchants or community is stable price, I haven't given this much thought but stacking TIPS against a $ value would be better than exchanging it into BTC, LTC or DOGE.
How much do we need to raise in TIPS donations to get the project moving?
PND coin has done it succesfully so far, by reducing the number of coins and switching to POS, but they do have a dedicated dev team.
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August 29, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
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id10tothe9
Nice to see that someone is still looking after TIPS.
What will happen to the current coins in wallets if we switch to the POS?
There isn't any demand on TIPS right now, switching to POS might completely kill the coin. As with MINT, ZEIT and RDD, prices creeped down after POS implementation.
Lowering maximum TIPS might cause a short lived price spike, benefiting bag holders such as myself, but I don't see it benefiting the coin.
I believe the only way TIPS can be picked up by merchants or community is stable price, I haven't given this much thought but stacking TIPS against a $ value would be better than exchanging it into BTC, LTC or DOGE.
How much do we need to raise in TIPS donations to get the project moving?

hi MuchFlyy, I'm not sure why those coins fell after POS implementation didn't look into them but it might also be due to the fact that all coins have been plummeting in the recent period. If you have an argument why POS would cause the price to fall please let me know! In general terms, I think POS has many benefits as opposed to POW and would help the stability at least in the long run. That's because, with POS the owners of the coin get to support the network instead of the few who own hashing hardware and the multipool which care only about profit and have already hurt us a lot and were a major reason why we fell this deep. And with POS those who believe in the coin and use it will be earning coins, and it makes more sense to me that the bagholders of the coin get rewarded with the new coins, which they usually wouldn't sell, instead of hardware owners getting these coins (wasting a lot of energy and costs), laying a selling pressure on the market and hurting the bagholders.
And on lowering the maximum count of TiPS, the reasoning behind this is for us to be on the btc market instead of the ltc market, so we would have access to a larger market with more volume. I think this would just help the coin reach its potential more easily. The currently available coins in the wallets would get swapped for the new TiPS 2.0 coins, so let's say we would create a new block chain for it, then the addresses on the old chain can send their coins to a given address where the coins get burned, and the owner gets a proportionate amount of the new coins. I believe other coins have done it or are in the process of doing it, so it seems like a safe and viable option.
About the donations I'm not sure, I guess we need to have the devs first who preferably can buy their own stake in TiPS to get invested so that not much donations are needed. It seems that a 10% donation from bagholders is a number all (those who commented) agreed upon, and I think we can create a multipool after switching to POS where those of us who have hardware can mine other coins and sell them to buy tips thereby supporting the price instead of dumping! and then a portion of the pool gains gets donated to the development fund.
Does that make sense?

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August 29, 2014, 08:13:17 AM
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I'm now refining a proposal to create TiPS 2.0.
it will be basically about switching to a POS algo, reduce total number of TiPS to get on the btc market and a few suggestions to support our needed development fund. and a few other things.
You can join me editing the file in the "2. Strategic ThinkTank" folder, or just post something to let me know there is still interest and motivate me to do the job!
You are doing an amazing job to revive this coin and is much appreciated.
We still need some interested devs to carry this coin forward as new features could be the only thing which can stir interest.


thanks glad to hear that! yah we need devs and actually TiPS is in a unique stage of it's life with the price so low but potential so high if it gets picked up by a dedicated team. so any dev who has the skills could buy a big stake and increase his investment value by a 100 fold easily in half a year. the search for devs continues so if you have anybody in mind talk to them!

PND coin has done it succesfully so far, by reducing the number of coins and switching to POS, but they do have a dedicated dev team.

interesting to know that somebody was successful which means it's doable. hey we need to build a team for the Research Node, interested in volunteering? such info are always helpful and then we can look more into how they did it to learn from their experience.
If you look at the excel file 'Brain Of TiPS' you can see what teams we need, so everybody feel free to volunteer and help no matter how little!

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August 29, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
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Hello to all,

I am currently writing the four page section for TIPS in the book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" A Beginner's Reference.  


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.260

TiPS has had a very interesting history so far  Smiley

I will post a preview section tonight.  
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August 29, 2014, 01:48:28 PM
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Hello to all,

I am currently writing the four page section for TIPS in the book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" A Beginner's Reference.  


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.260

TiPS has had a very interesting history so far  Smiley

I will post a preview section tonight.  

hey Tyke, I hope you receive the 1m TiPS I kinda forgot to confirm the exchange email for few days but now they must be out. Excited about reading your book!

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August 29, 2014, 01:51:33 PM
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Hello to all,

I am currently writing the four page section for TIPS in the book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" A Beginner's Reference.  


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.260

TiPS has had a very interesting history so far  Smiley

I will post a preview section tonight.  

wow guys, I see FedoraCoin has the third highest ranking after NXT, Particle, and Ultracoin. I thought we were 'very inactive' recently, but those numbers are really encouraging! We just need to wave our hands (on our keyboards I guess) and TiPS can be soon on the top ranking of the Altcoins! Never give up Cheesy

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August 29, 2014, 02:51:22 PM
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Hello to all,

I am currently writing the four page section for TIPS in the book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" A Beginner's Reference.  


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.260

TiPS has had a very interesting history so far  Smiley

I will post a preview section tonight.  

wow guys, I see FedoraCoin has the third highest ranking after NXT, Particle, and Ultracoin. I thought we were 'very inactive' recently, but those numbers are really encouraging! We just need to wave our hands (on our keyboards I guess) and TiPS can be soon on the top ranking of the Altcoins! Never give up Cheesy

Please be aware that the vote on the book thread closed on the 16th of March (My partner's birthday) Tongue

I have not received a donation yet lol
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