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February 07, 2015, 09:10:34 AM |
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Or let /GeertJohan work on his simulator and have GuldenDiffAlgo, that will also work in future situations.
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24hralttrade
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February 07, 2015, 09:52:05 AM Last edit: February 07, 2015, 10:21:40 AM by 24hralttrade |
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From https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/ (guldencointrader.nl shows basically the same): latest 24h avg 7d avg. Hashrate 12.7 GH/s 12.1 GH/s 14.9 GH/s Difficulty 1,068.35 722.82 710.57 Time between blocks 1 m 49s 4m 10s 3m 25s And from http://nlgstats.iblogger.org/ : date | blocks +---------+-------+ | Feb 01 | 491 | | Feb 02 | 398 | | Feb 03 | 377 | | Feb 04 | 410 | | Feb 05 | 370 | | Feb 06 | 337 | Feb 6 with only 337 blocks is very low (~60% of expected 576 blocks). Looks like while diff goes up, blocks per day goes down (talking about average here). And this happens while the hashrate goes down too? DIGI should and is reacting faster than DGW3, so it should level between longer and shorter block times faster too. So why isn't the average diff lower together with the lower average hashrate? Looking at our (simple) DIGI code again and again without seeing why. (Even the old DGW3 with it's one-off bug and 24 blocks interval did a better job there and kept us closer to the default number of blocks per day). Anyone able to explain what is going on here? I'll admit that I wasn't expecting some of the results we've been having. I believed that we should have been having a mix of short blocks and long blocks that averaged out, like you mention. We're overshooting the difficulty needed to effectively keep the chain moving. Instead we're going from 500 to 2000 in the span of 3 blocks. Then the long block time causes the maximum drop, and we end up going back down to the level that is profitable for MPs. It's part of the reason why I recommended trimming the max adjustment. The adjustments will happen just as fast, but they won't move as far. Additionally, we have a lot less hashrate keeping those higher blocks moving. So it's back and forth with high block, MP block. Digi is doing it's job, we just need to tweak it a little. Or we can start talking about the shorter block times. Of course, the ideal solution is more miners, or more dedicated hashrate. -Fuse I talked with a friend of my with a nice rig that will jump to NLG, He has been mining Digi for months now and whas looking for something else. He will hold just like he did on digi. I hope it will help a little I also will jump in with the collective mining for 0.1 btc.
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Jero
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February 07, 2015, 10:45:30 AM |
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From https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/ (guldencointrader.nl shows basically the same): latest 24h avg 7d avg. Hashrate 12.7 GH/s 12.1 GH/s 14.9 GH/s Difficulty 1,068.35 722.82 710.57 Time between blocks 1 m 49s 4m 10s 3m 25s And from http://nlgstats.iblogger.org/ : date | blocks +---------+-------+ | Feb 01 | 491 | | Feb 02 | 398 | | Feb 03 | 377 | | Feb 04 | 410 | | Feb 05 | 370 | | Feb 06 | 337 | Feb 6 with only 337 blocks is very low (~60% of expected 576 blocks). Looks like while diff goes up, blocks per day goes down (talking about average here). And this happens while the hashrate goes down too? DIGI should and is reacting faster than DGW3, so it should level between longer and shorter block times faster too. So why isn't the average diff lower together with the lower average hashrate? Looking at our (simple) DIGI code again and again without seeing why. (Even the old DGW3 with it's one-off bug and 24 blocks interval did a better job there and kept us closer to the default number of blocks per day). Anyone able to explain what is going on here? I'll admit that I wasn't expecting some of the results we've been having. I believed that we should have been having a mix of short blocks and long blocks that averaged out, like you mention. We're overshooting the difficulty needed to effectively keep the chain moving. Instead we're going from 500 to 2000 in the span of 3 blocks. Then the long block time causes the maximum drop, and we end up going back down to the level that is profitable for MPs. It's part of the reason why I recommended trimming the max adjustment. The adjustments will happen just as fast, but they won't move as far. Additionally, we have a lot less hashrate keeping those higher blocks moving. So it's back and forth with high block, MP block. Digi is doing it's job, we just need to tweak it a little. Or we can start talking about the shorter block times. Of course, the ideal solution is more miners, or more dedicated hashrate. -Fuse I talked with a friend of my with a nice rig that will jump to NLG, He has been mining Digi for months now and whas looking for something else. He will hold just like he did on digi. I hope it will help a little I also will jump in with the collective mining for 0.1 btc. Great you join the collective mining! More people should follow your example
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Jero
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February 07, 2015, 10:47:47 AM |
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Can someone provide me with a read only account to a block explorer sql database? PM me if you can, please.
-Fuse
If someone can provide this I am also looking for an API which returns total received coins on a given Guldencoin address. This is for a little project I am working on, so Guldencoin will benefit from this for sure.
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veertje
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February 07, 2015, 02:12:02 PM Last edit: February 07, 2015, 03:09:26 PM by veertje |
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Feb 6 with only 337 blocks is very low (~60% of expected 576 blocks).
Today even lower as it seems. Less dump from Clever. I think CM has to leave soon, because it is not profitable for them anymore this way
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February 07, 2015, 03:28:25 PM |
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Feb 6 with only 337 blocks is very low (~60% of expected 576 blocks).
Today even lower as it seems. Less dump from Clever. I think CM has to leave soon, because it is not profitable for them anymore this way CM won't leave. Terk seriously thinks he's doing us a favor by mining our coin. He's delusional. He will mine NLG until the day that we find a way to kick him off for good. -Fuse
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veertje
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February 07, 2015, 03:35:55 PM Last edit: February 07, 2015, 09:49:10 PM by veertje |
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Feb 6 with only 337 blocks is very low (~60% of expected 576 blocks).
Today even lower as it seems. Less dump from Clever. I think CM has to leave soon, because it is not profitable for them anymore this way CM won't leave. Terk seriously thinks he's doing us a favor by mining our coin. He's delusional. He will mine NLG until the day that we find a way to kick him off for good. -Fuse 30% is better then 50-70%. But I can't imagine, CM still mining NLG now with this mean blocktime atm. Better leave your upset with Terk for now Fuse, all is calmed down now and Terk is at least a bit cooperative after months.
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Halofire
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February 07, 2015, 04:08:17 PM |
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CM has mined more blocks today than yesterday and with less total blocks. Edit: 30% like I calculated. http://nlgstats.iblogger.org/
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February 07, 2015, 04:12:36 PM |
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They started yesterday halfway, also at 30% of the blocks. 30% of less blocks today is less dump. It was at 33% today and is dropping a bit. Now at 30,7%, so no much change in that. If I was Terk, I go mine other coins.
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February 07, 2015, 04:48:42 PM |
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Feb 6 with only 337 blocks is very low (~60% of expected 576 blocks).
Today even lower as it seems. Less dump from Clever. I think CM has to leave soon, because it is not profitable for them anymore this way I think we will end the day with less than 300 blocks and an average block time of more than 5 min. Right now that worries me more than what CM is doing (less profitable for them, so less blocks they mine). The average diff is steady getting higher while the hashrate does not (rather getting a bit lower). I did a count of the times between the last 50 blocks 17 blocks with more than 3 min block time 6 blocks with 2 -3 min block time 26 blocks with up to 2 min block time And look at the network status at https://explorer.guldencoin.com/#/ and compare the 7d avg. against the 24h avg. Looking at the diff change between blocks it roughly fits with what to expect (max +/- 33% change), so no surprise here. So what is causing this trend (decreasing blocks per day, increasing block times per day) and how to revert it no normal? I was thinking about an additional DiffAdjustmentFactor based on the time of the last 576 blocks, but it would be like "let's try this screw and see what happens" without finding the cause for the actual trend first.
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veertje
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February 07, 2015, 05:15:19 PM |
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Would be good to do tests with the simulator soon.
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February 07, 2015, 05:31:48 PM |
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The moral of the story is we just have to be a lot better then litecoin. End of!
We will help make that a reality.
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February 07, 2015, 06:28:51 PM |
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The moral of the story is we just have to be a lot better then litecoin. End of!
We will help make that a reality.
We are already doing better than Litecoin my friend, now we just need to get everyone to see it too ;-)
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A fool will just look at the finger, even if it points to paradise!
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February 07, 2015, 07:20:09 PM |
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The moral of the story is we just have to be a lot better then litecoin. End of!
We will help make that a reality.
We are already doing better than Litecoin my friend, now we just need to get everyone to see it too ;-) This is true, I should of bolded the a lot better.
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Jero
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February 07, 2015, 07:38:31 PM |
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The moral of the story is we just have to be a lot better then litecoin. End of!
We will help make that a reality.
We are already doing better than Litecoin my friend, now we just need to get everyone to see it too ;-) This is true, I should of bolded the a lot better. Let me help you a bit my friend... This is true, I should of bolded the a lot better.
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veertje
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February 07, 2015, 09:09:38 PM |
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That is so WOW!
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February 07, 2015, 09:18:07 PM |
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That is so WOW! The timeline has been a great resource for new people to see what has been achieved so far. When you go through the timeline you do tend forget all the updates we've had. Very impressive!
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February 07, 2015, 10:15:03 PM |
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February 07, 2015, 10:41:45 PM |
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Great stuff, but I more prefer sticky gulden coins
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