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July 01, 2014, 09:33:27 AM
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hide the champagne, the same 6 Satoshi are here  Undecided
I understand you from a new miner's perspective. But from the view of someone who mined it when block rewards were 10x of today and price was less than 1/10th I can only say give it some time. Karma has achieved truly amazing things. It has turned from a so-so clone coin into one of the most exciting and stable growing coins in the entire altcoin scene. And all of that not because of hyping and copying the latest fad-features. But (1) by organically growing a great community, (2) exploring new services/usecases for the coin and creating the perpective for long lasting value and returns with Karmashares.

And you know what? Unlike the 70+ coins that copied Blackcoin's PoW/PoS + multipool aproach, the recent anonymity hype, or other "normal" coin features you can't jsut copy Karmashares. (3) In theory any coin could copy the Proof-of-Coin and LLC idea, but you need the right team, organization, vision and skills to actually make that mean something. And that's where 90% of coins would fall short.

(4) Value has grown like 40x over the past few months and while most profit-taking has already happened before we even returned to the BTC markets, there will always be resistance and after every increase price needs to settle to a new floor, before it can rise further. Karma price has more than doubled since we first talked about this only a few pages back, have some faith and patience my friend. You will be rewarded. Smiley

Great points you emphasized there!

Point 1, If a new Karma curious would look at reddit and karma facebook page they may go :"hmmmmm, too few" Yet that few made the coin overtake many other heavily populated coin communities.

Point 2, A novel coin may attract a fleeting interest like so with PnD's then that's it. late comers are left holding the bag and a dream that somehow it may rise again without basis of hope.

Point 3, Yes anyone can copy what are so far done, but really, it would take a whole lot more to assemble the people behind the scene that made them so.

Point 4, 40X!!!?? This may seem absurd to some. But we have graphs that show it is even an understatement. Try 10 litoshis to 6 satoshis and find what is the ratio.

Our doors are open. Come in anytime. We love to have you here. Bring and receive good Karma.








Actually, it is more than 40x. I have record of deals at 7 litoshi level. So, we are very proud of knowing you and be a little part of this.
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July 01, 2014, 09:40:30 AM
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Im a karmashares investor

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July 01, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
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Socoban, on the first page of this thread and on Karmashares.com you can see that if you trade your coins for shares, you will get 1.75 multiplier. So, you are mistaken about this. I as a KARMA investor am totally against that somebody who missed the Quantum periods to get more than 1.75. Actually if it was up to me, I would  definitely lower this ratio.


I am not suggesting to increase ratio to 5x, but to decrease revenue for KARMA coin, or to make Shares trade-able. And it really does not matter what is written in Bitcointalk forum, if official web page says something else. We are searching for new blood, new blood does not read this thread. Official web page makes Karma Coin much more valuable compared to KarmaShares than it really is. Those information on that page are simply not true. As someone said, most of KarmaShares is hold by 15 people. We need to get hundreds of new shareholders. Those shareholders will bring new Expensive Karma Coins to the project. First investors bought KarmaCoin for 10-40 litoshi. They got 5-10x multiplier for shares. KarmaCoin is now at 450 litoshi. The revenue for early shareholders is 50-100x higher than for those who come now. So those new investors have to pay 50x more money to get same shares as early shareholders got. But KarmaShares company need new investors. We need new money to be thrown into project. The more people invest into KarmaShares, the more value those shares have. We need new blood and new money to be thrown into new projects.  Hence we need to make KarmaShares attractive. They are not attractive now. Karma coins holders does not help KarmaShares company, only KarmaShares holders help it.
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July 01, 2014, 09:46:13 AM
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hide the champagne, the same 6 Satoshi are here  Undecided
I understand you from a new miner's perspective. But from the view of someone who mined it when block rewards were 10x of today and price was less than 1/10th I can only say give it some time. Karma has achieved truly amazing things. It has turned from a so-so clone coin into one of the most exciting and stable growing coins in the entire altcoin scene. And all of that not because of hyping and copying the latest fad-features. But (1) by organically growing a great community, (2) exploring new services/usecases for the coin and creating the perpective for long lasting value and returns with Karmashares.

And you know what? Unlike the 70+ coins that copied Blackcoin's PoW/PoS + multipool aproach, the recent anonymity hype, or other "normal" coin features you can't jsut copy Karmashares. (3) In theory any coin could copy the Proof-of-Coin and LLC idea, but you need the right team, organization, vision and skills to actually make that mean something. And that's where 90% of coins would fall short.

(4) Value has grown like 40x over the past few months and while most profit-taking has already happened before we even returned to the BTC markets, there will always be resistance and after every increase price needs to settle to a new floor, before it can rise further. Karma price has more than doubled since we first talked about this only a few pages back, have some faith and patience my friend. You will be rewarded. Smiley

Great points you emphasized there!

Point 1, If a new Karma curious would look at reddit and karma facebook page they may go :"hmmmmm, too few" Yet that few made the coin overtake many other heavily populated coin communities.

Point 2, A novel coin may attract a fleeting interest like so with PnD's then that's it. late comers are left holding the bag and a dream that somehow it may rise again without basis of hope.

Point 3, Yes anyone can copy what are so far done, but really, it would take a whole lot more to assemble the people behind the scene that made them so.

Point 4, 40X!!!?? This may seem absurd to some. But we have graphs that show it is even an understatement. Try 10 litoshis to 6 satoshis and find what is the ratio.

Our doors are open. Come in anytime. We love to have you here. Bring and receive good Karma.








Actually, it is more than 40x. I have record of deals at 7 litoshi level. So, we are very proud of knowing you and be a little part of this.

Thanks, I feel the same way to you. BTW our translated OP pages are now properly linked on the first page by the nation's/language flag.

TIP ME ₭ARMA:  KJeEKJv1LXHM8cYeRgQG3q87BFA4W3sTGg  FOR KARMA TRANSLATION BUDGET SEND TO: KHvkhA7RTFnG8N5RWPB48gs2y8K1od6xF4
OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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French guys/gals in the forum: Please read it and tell me if you think I should change something.




₭ - Débuté le 4 Février 2014 - AUCUN PRÉ-MINAGE -AUCUN IPO
Preuve-de-pièce (PoC) partage les profits et co-propriétaire avec Karmashares
http://www.karmacoin.me/

           

 



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27 Juin: CryptoArticles Chaine de côte et X11
29 Mai: Coinjoint.info NOUVEL article içi !
28 Mai: Nouveau marché KARMA/BTC, LTC et DOGE sur Comkort.com
28 Mai: Delaforetnoire Entrevue ici !
26 Mai: Achetez vôtre propre chandail Karma  içi !
24 Mai: Forum Karmashares dédié  içi !
16 Mai: Entrevue exclusive d'équipeiçi !
11 Mai: Karma lance le KarmaWorldCup.org  pour ramasser des fonds pour  la coupe Street Child World, annoncement Rio 2014 , page 47!
9 Mai: Annoncement P.o.S , plus à la page 44 !
9 Mai: Nouveau projet iPOCO, plus à la page 44 !
1er Mai: Affichage d'une brève stratégie Karmashares et notes sur le revenue sur cette page !
1er Mai: Engin de recherche Karma qui va être appelé lill sur lill.com
30 Avril: Le nouveau symbole de la device Karma: ₭
Nouveau porte-monnaie pour Windows disponible! Lien de téléchargement içi Plus d'information à la page 13!
Ap`res un VOTE de la communotée, nous avons changé nôtre nom pour KARMA ! Plus d'information à la page 13
Nouveau sujet de discussion officiel Karma sur Bitcointalk, içi !
Maintenant sur Cryptsy (KARM/LTC) https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/193
KarmasharesLLC: Échangez vos pièces pour des parts de profits sur nôtre échange! Karmashares.com
 


 

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₭arma est la nouvelle façon "d'aimer" vôtre famille, amis, organizations, causes, et autres. Vous pouvez le voir comme un symbole d'appreciation. Nous offrons une methode commune et façile à utiliser pour que les gens puissent offrir une récompense à ceux qui font de bonnes actions.
Nôtre but est que Karma devient une "devise avec coeur" globale et une platforme pour une Bonne Économie. Karma facilite l'envoie de petits montants d'argent à vos amis, famille, collègues, voisins, charités, et autres causes pour les bonnes choses qu'elles font.
Nous voulons rendre "Donner+Karma" une réalitée sur internet et dans la vrai vie aussi façilement que "d'aimer".
 
Nous allons permettre aux gens de "Donner+Karma" via les 5 elements de l'écosystème Karma:
 
Pourboire - Système de pourboire Internet pour Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Google+, Reddit
Donation - Karmafund.me (Donner à une cause ou charité)
Acheter/Vendre -"Échanger pour le bien" sur Karmatrade.me. Une façon d'échanger des Karma pour produits/services.
Partager - Karmashare.me (donations P2P)
Finance P2P - Karmapay.me (microfinance P2P et système de marchands)
 
 

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Karmashares LLC est l'entitée opérationelle de Karma, Bitcoin et les devises similaire au Litecoin qui sont basés sur "faire le bien". Il est présentement créé dans l'état du Wyoming, États-Unis, pour pouvoir créer une valeur a long terme pour ceux qui possèdent des Karma en dévellopant des produits et services qui génèrent des revenus.
Les propriétaires de Karma participants vont recevoir une part des profits de Karmashares. 100% des profits vont être distribués aux membres sur une base trimestrielle par rapport au pourcentage que chaque membres détient de Karmashares LLC.

 
En accord avec le principle de Karme de "faire le bien", nous allons rendre facile pour les membres de donner un pourcentage de leur gains à une cause de leur choix dans les fonds Karma, autant que faciliter pour les utilisateurs et membres de donner des Karma et autre types de devices. Chaques membres ou utilisateur pourront donner aussi peu qu'il le désire, ou choisir de ne pas participer.
Karmashares est unique parce qu'il est la première devise virtuelle à offir le modèle preuve-de-pièce (PoC). Le PoC nous permet d'offrir aux utilisateurs une part dans dans nôtre compagnie en batissant nôtre économie et en augmentant nôtre capital pour augmenter nos gains, sans avoir besoin d'interférer avec l'algorithme de la pièce ou sa fonctionnalitée.

Allez sur nôtre forum Karmashares :   http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php


Est-ce que je peux toujours participer après le 10 Mai, à la fin du montant bonus?
 
*Bien sur. Nous réservons des points pour les 92 milliards de pièces. Mais garde en tête que si tu veux des parts après le 10 Mai 2014, tu vas n'obtenir que 1.75x les points quand tu vas échanger des pièces.
 


             
 
 
 

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Basé Scrypt
Inclus l'algorithme  Kimoto Gravity Well
1 bloc par minute
Approximativement 92 milliards de pièces au total
10,000 pièces par bloc avec un bonus additionel basé sur le nombre de blocs minés
240 bloc pour le changement de difficulté
port 9432
 
 

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http://karma.mpos.altcoin.dk (*Nouveau)
http://hash-to-coins.com (*Nouveau)
http://xhash.net/
http://karma.p2pool.altcoin.dk/
http://karm.multi-pool.eu/
http://pool.terahashers.com/
http://hash-to-coins.com/
http://karma.miners-point.com/
http://hasher.ca/
http://chunkypools.com/karm/
https://www.minep.it/pool/KARM


 

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http://www.karmacoin.me/
http://www.karmashares.com/
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php
http://www.karmafund.me/
http://www.karmashare.me/
http://www.lill.com/
http://www.karmahangout.com/
http://fabrik.spreadshirt.com/
 
 
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http://www.cryptocoincharts.info
http://coinwarz.com
http://altcoinstats.com
http://coinmarketcap.com
 
 

               
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             0-9,999 blocs => 10,000 + Jusqu'à 2,000,000 bonus ~ 10,125,117,960 Karma minés
   10,000-24,999 blocs => 10,000 + Jusqu'à 1,500,000 bonus ~ 11,389,254,273 Karma minés
   25,000-28,999 blocs => 10,000 + Jusqu'à 1,000,000 bonus ~   2,031,443,390 Karma minés
 Dernier bloc bonus au hazard (30 secondes de confirmation) - Blocs statique à partir de maintenant (1 minute de confirmation )
   29,000-50,000 blocs => 10,000 + 500,000 bonus
  50,000-100,000 blocs => 10,000 + 250,000 bonus
100,000-200,000 blocs => 10,000 + 100,000 bonus
200,000-300,000 blocs => 10,000 + 25,000 bonus*
300,000-400,000 blocs => 10,000 + 10,000 bonus
           400,000+ blocs => 10,000 coins
* we're içi!

 
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MintPal: https://www.mintpal.com/market/KARM/LTC  
Cryptsy : https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/193
Comkort: https://comkort.com/market/trade/karm_ltc
Bleutrade: https://bleutrade.com/exchange/KARM/BTC
Coin-Swap: https://coin-swap.net/
Achetez des Karma avec Skrill : http://cryptokopen.eu/buy-karmacoin
 
 
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http://karmacoin.altcoinfaucet.net/
http://karmacoin.cyanrainbow.com/
http://bitcoinmafia.com/other-altcoins/karmacoin/
 
 
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Coin Horse: https://coin-horse.com/
Prisoners Dilemma: http://karmagames.info/prisoner
Blackjack: http://karmagames.info/blackjack
Karmakazee: http://karmagames.info/karmakazee
 
 

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http://explorer.karmacoin.me/chain/Karmacoin
 
 



IRC #Karmacoin on freenode.net

Paramètres de configuration Karma
Code:
rpcuser=karmaname
rpcpassword=karmapass
rpcport=9432
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=192.168.0.*
daemon=1
server=1
addnode=altcoin.dk:9432
addnode=altcoin.dk:9436
addnode=23.254.97.16:9432
addnode=54.201.183.106:9432
addnode=173.74.26.226:9432
addnode=188.165.194.96:9432
addnode=213.188.233.41:9432
addnode=213.188.233.41:9432
addnode=96.255.183.141:9432
addnode=68.169.157.77:9432
addnode=81.157.60.163
addnode=151.228.221.61
addnode=107.150.7.246
addnode=64.121.119.180
addnode=67.169.239.87
addnode=37.251.42.238
addnode=91.61.69.254
addnode=174.131.83.65
addnode=217.119.117.131
addnode=93.79.24.77
addnode=178.41.10.214

Pour une solution rapide pour synchroniser avec le réseau
Code:
Dans vôtre porte-monnaie allez sur Aide| Fenêtre de débuggage | console et écrivez:

addnode altcoin.dk:9432 add

addnode altcoin.dk:9436 add

Fermez la fenêtre, attendez que vôtre porte-monnaie commence à synchroniser. Attendez jusqu'à 15-30 minutess

I provide my FR translation, from the french part of Bitcointalk




₭ -Lancé le 4 février 2014 - Pas de préminage
Proof-Of-Coin (PoC) partager les actions et le profit de la compagnie Karmashares
http://www.karmacoin.me/
Sujet original bitcointalk : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579973.0


           

 
 



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15 mai : Nous lançons la beta test de notre moteur de recherche lill.com
11 mai: Karma lance la KarmaWorldCup.org pour récolter des fonds pour la Street Child World Cup, Rio 2014 plus d'infos page 47!
9 mai : Annonce pour passage au P.O.S
9 mai : Nouveau projet iPOCO
1 mai : Post bref sur la strategie  Karmashares et notes sur les revenus http://www.reddit.com/r/Karmashares/comments/24hs29/whats_the_karmashares_strategy_for_the_next_few/
1 mai : Le moteur de recherche dédié sera nommé lill, trouvable à lill.com
30 avril: Le nouveau symbole du Karma: ₭
Nouveau portefeuille disponible (http://karmacoin.me/wallets/windows/Karma-v0.8.6.2.5.zip)
Après le vote de notre communauté, nous changeons notre nom pour KARMA !
Nouveau sujet Bitcointalk, HERE !
Maintenant sur Cryptsy (KARM/LTC) https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/193
KarmasharesLLC: exchangez vos coinspour des actions pour notre nouvelle branche créée pour dégager des profits! Karmashares.com
 


 
Qu'est ce que le Karma?
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₭arma est un nouveau moyen de montrer que vous appréciez votre famille, vos amis et les autres en général. Comparez-le au bouton "J'aime" que vous trouvez partout. C'est une monnaie P2P, comme le Bitcoin. Vous pouvez l'utiliser pour partager avec ceux qui vous tiennent à cœur. Nous l'appelons Give+Karma (Donner+Karma), parce que quand vous faites du bien, le bien reviens à vous.

Vous pouvez comparer Karma à une autre manière de dire merci. Quand vous Donnez+Karma vous partagez votre expérience dans une communauté où chaque petite chose compte. Des preuves de gentillesse, prendre en compte ce que chacun a à dire, montrer son appréciation, être heureux, faire de bonnes choses, et profiter de la vie. Ce sont les petits actes répétés qui comptent... Et c'est pourquoi nous avons développé Karma.
 
Nous allons donner le pouvoir aux gens pour qu'il puissent "Donner+Karma" via les 5 éléments de l’écosystème Karma.
 
Pourboire - Systèmes de pourboires Internet pour Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Google+, Reddit
Donner - Karmafund.me (Donner pour une bonne cause ou une oeuvre de charité)
Acheter/Vendre -"Le marché du bien" sur Karmatrade.me. Un moyen d'échange pour le  Karma et les produits/services.
Partager - Karmashare.me (donations P2P)
Finance P2P - Karmapay.me (Site P2P de microfinance et systèmes de paiements pour les marchands)
 
 
Qu'est ce que Karmashares?
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Karmashares LLC est l'entité opérant pour Karma. L'entreprise LLC est maintenant enregistrée aux USA, elle a pour but de créer de la valeur au long terme pour les possesseurs de Karma en développant des produits et des services qui rapportent un revenu constant.
Les possesseurs qualifiés de Karma reçoivent des actions de KarmasharesLLC. 100% des profits seront distribués aux membres tous les trois mois en suivant le pourcentage de KarmasharesLLC  que chacun possède.


En accord avec la valeur principale de ''faire le bien'', nous ferons pour qu'il soit simple pour les membres de donne un pourcentage de leurs gains à une cause de leur choix dans la Fondation Karma, comme il sera aussi facile pour chaque membre ou utilisateur de donner autant qu'il voudra pour d'autre cause, ou au contraire, encaisser tout ses gains directement.
Karma est unique parce c'est la première crypto-monnaie à offrir le système  proof-of-coin (PoC). PoC nous permet d'offrir aux utilisateurs une participation dans une compagnie à but lucratif, tout en grandissant notre économie et notre capital dans le but de favoriser notre croissance, sans avoir à interférer avec l’Algorithme ou les fonctions du coin.


 
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Basé sur Scrypt
Inclus l’algorithme Kimoto Gravity Well
block à 1 minute
Approximativement 92 milliards de coins au total
10,000 coins par block avec un bonus additionnel basé sur le numéro de block en cours de minage
240 blocks pour rediriger la difficulté
port 9432
 
 

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http://karma.p2pool.altcoin.dk/
http://chunkypools.com/karm/ 
http://karma.hashstrike.com
http://karm.multi-pool.eu/
http://hasher.ca
http://karma.miners-point.com/
http://pool.code4.us/karm/
http://pool.terahashers.com/
 
 

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http://www.karmacoin.me/
http://www.karmafund.me/
http://www.karmashare.me/
http://www.karmashares.me/
 
 
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http://www.cryptocoincharts.info
http://coinwarz.com
http://altcoinstats.com
http://coinmarketcap.com
 
 

               
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            0-10,000 blocks => 10,000 +1,000,000 bonus
    10,000-25,000 blocks => 10,000 + 750,000 bonus
    25,000-50,000 blocks => 10,000 + 500,000 bonus
  50,000-100,000 blocks => 10,000 + 250,000 bonus
100,000-200,000 blocks => 10,000 + 100,000 bonus*
200,000-300,000 blocks => 10,000 + 25,000 bonus
300,000-400,000 blocks => 10,000 + 10,000 bonus
           400,000+ blocks => 10,000 coins
* Nous sommes ici!

 
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MintPal: https://www.mintpal.com/market/KARM/LTC 
Cryptsy : https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/193
Bittrex : https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-KARM
Bleutrade: https://bleutrade.com/exchange/KARM/BTC
Coin-Swap: https://coin-swap.net/
Cryptx: https://cryptx.io/
Acheter du Karma avec Skrill : http://cryptokopen.eu/buy-karmacoin
 
 
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http://karmacoin.altcoinfaucet.net/
http://karmacoin.cyanrainbow.com/
http://bitcoinmafia.com/other-altcoins/karmacoin/
 
 
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Coin Horse: https://coin-horse.com/
Prisoners Dilemma: http://karmagames.info/prisoner
Blackjack: http://karmagames.info/blackjack
Karmakazee: http://karmagames.info/karmakazee
 
 

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http://explorer.karmacoin.me/chain/Karmacoin
 
 



 






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Third post edited with last press articles  Wink
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Wow! I've seen this coin go to litecoin market and now you are back in bitcoin market! Congrats and respect to dev and community.
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Socoban, on the first page of this thread and on Karmashares.com you can see that if you trade your coins for shares, you will get 1.75 multiplier. So, you are mistaken about this. I as a KARMA investor am totally against that somebody who missed the Quantum periods to get more than 1.75. Actually if it was up to me, I would  definitely lower this ratio.


I am not suggesting to increase ratio to 5x, but to decrease revenue for KARMA coin, or to make Shares trade-able. And it really does not matter what is written in Bitcointalk forum, if official web page says something else. We are searching for new blood, new blood does not read this thread. Official web page makes Karma Coin much more valuable compared to KarmaShares than it really is. Those information on that page are simply not true. As someone said, most of KarmaShares is hold by 15 people. We need to get hundreds of new shareholders. Those shareholders will bring new Expensive Karma Coins to the project. First investors bought KarmaCoin for 10-40 litoshi. They got 5-10x multiplier for shares. KarmaCoin is now at 450 litoshi. The revenue for early shareholders is 50-100x higher than for those who come now. So those new investors have to pay 50x more money to get same shares as early shareholders got. But KarmaShares company need new investors. We need new money to be thrown into project. The more people invest into KarmaShares, the more value those shares have. We need new blood and new money to be thrown into new projects.  Hence we need to make KarmaShares attractive. They are not attractive now. Karma coins holders does not help KarmaShares company, only KarmaShares holders help it.

Hey ~ when karma is under 10 latoshi
that time many people didn't buy karmacoins
But over serveral month, the dev and team goes their own way under that price
And the period of multiple-share changing was over one month!
Then the price goes high it's become unfair?
All chance are opened for all and someone get the chance under darkness season
and someone get the chance more clear time
High risk high return. Low risk low return.

The bit is also under 10 bucks just an years ago
That time people bought that for earning money? no. Just fun to buy.
But now people buy bits over 600buck. That's unfair??
Share is too. If the LLC is really good? Then many people invest
If not? They didn't invest
Don't focus on missing bus.
There are many great things still exist! Wink

karmacoin was over 10 satoshi passtime.
I saw the price of my karmacoins decreased 5000%
care with the price of bitcoin that time. 7500% decreased!!
Karma has passed really dark time. And now cameback
I want to give you this patience and potential of karmacoin^^

Good luck~!
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July 01, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
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I understand you from a new miner's perspective. But from the view of someone who mined it when block rewards were 10x of today and price was less than 1/10th I can only say give it some time. Karma has achieved truly amazing things. It has turned from a so-so clone coin into one of the most exciting and stable growing coins in the entire altcoin scene. And all of that not because of hyping and copying the latest fad-features. But (1) by organically growing a great community, (2) exploring new services/usecases for the coin and creating the perpective for long lasting value and returns with Karmashares.

And you know what? Unlike the 70+ coins that copied Blackcoin's PoW/PoS + multipool aproach, the recent anonymity hype, or other "normal" coin features you can't jsut copy Karmashares. (3) In theory any coin could copy the Proof-of-Coin and LLC idea, but you need the right team, organization, vision and skills to actually make that mean something. And that's where 90% of coins would fall short.

(4) Value has grown like 40x over the past few months and while most profit-taking has already happened before we even returned to the BTC markets, there will always be resistance and after every increase price needs to settle to a new floor, before it can rise further. Karma price has more than doubled since we first talked about this only a few pages back, have some faith and patience my friend. You will be rewarded. Smiley

Great points you emphasized there!

Point 1, If a new Karma curious would look at reddit and karma facebook page they may go :"hmmmmm, too few" Yet that few made the coin overtake many other heavily populated coin communities.

Point 2, A novel coin may attract a fleeting interest like so with PnD's then that's it. late comers are left holding the bag and a dream that somehow it may rise again without basis of hope.

Point 3, Yes anyone can copy what are so far done, but really, it would take a whole lot more to assemble the people behind the scene that made them so.

Point 4, 40X!!!?? This may seem absurd to some. But we have graphs that show it is even an understatement. Try 10 litoshis to 6 satoshis and find what is the ratio.

Our doors are open. Come in anytime. We love to have you here. Bring and receive good Karma.








Actually, it is more than 40x. I have record of deals at 7 litoshi level. So, we are very proud of knowing you and be a little part of this.
Not trying to be a smartass here, but... Smiley

What I did is take the actual conversion rate of LTC to BTC into account. Relative to BTC Karma didn't gain as much, since LTC is now down almost 50%. That plus Karma never really traded at 7 litoshis. It dipped down to 7 ONCE for about 30 minutes. The real floor was 9 litoshis, with regular swings into the 12-15 range. If you combine those two factors then Karma value (in BTC) actually "only" increased ~27x since then (1BTC = 40LTC, 1 Karma = 9 litoshi => 1 Karma = 0,225 satoshi) to now (1 Karma = 6 satoshi).

Sigh, what a downer. So there you have it, guess we'll need a stable rise to 9sat next to make that 40x increase real, who's in?! Wink

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July 01, 2014, 10:58:20 AM
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Socoban, on the first page of this thread and on Karmashares.com you can see that if you trade your coins for shares, you will get 1.75 multiplier. So, you are mistaken about this. I as a KARMA investor am totally against that somebody who missed the Quantum periods to get more than 1.75. Actually if it was up to me, I would  definitely lower this ratio.


I am not suggesting to increase ratio to 5x, but to decrease revenue for KARMA coin, or to make Shares trade-able. And it really does not matter what is written in Bitcointalk forum, if official web page says something else. We are searching for new blood, new blood does not read this thread. Official web page makes Karma Coin much more valuable compared to KarmaShares than it really is. Those information on that page are simply not true. As someone said, most of KarmaShares is hold by 15 people. We need to get hundreds of new shareholders. Those shareholders will bring new Expensive Karma Coins to the project. First investors bought KarmaCoin for 10-40 litoshi. They got 5-10x multiplier for shares. KarmaCoin is now at 450 litoshi. The revenue for early shareholders is 50-100x higher than for those who come now. So those new investors have to pay 50x more money to get same shares as early shareholders got. But KarmaShares company need new investors. We need new money to be thrown into project. The more people invest into KarmaShares, the more value those shares have. We need new blood and new money to be thrown into new projects.  Hence we need to make KarmaShares attractive. They are not attractive now. Karma coins holders does not help KarmaShares company, only KarmaShares holders help it.

Hey ~ when karma is under 10 latoshi
that time many people didn't buy karmacoins
But over serveral month, the dev and team goes their own way under that price
And the period of multiple-share changing was over one month!
Then the price goes high it's become unfair?
All chance are opened for all and someone get the chance under darkness season
and someone get the chance more clear time
High risk high return. Low risk low return.

The bit is also under 10 bucks just an years ago
That time people bought that for earning money? no. Just fun to buy.
But now people buy bits over 600buck. That's unfair??
Share is too. If the LLC is really good? Then many people invest
If not? They didn't invest
Don't focus on missing bus.
There are many great things still exist! Wink

karmacoin was over 10 satoshi passtime.
I saw the price of my karmacoins decreased 5000%
care with the price of bitcoin that time. 7500% decreased!!
Karma has passed really dark time. And now cameback
I want to give you this patience and potential of karmacoin^^

Good luck~!


Hmm, I don't think you understand the text I have written. I am early shareholder, I have bought my Shares cheap. But what I see, there is no interest in KarmaShares. Peope are buying Karma to hold it and sell it, not to trade it for KarmaShares. Hence it means something is wrong. If price increase of Karma is driven by KarmaShares company, than KarmaShares should be hot like gold. They are not. People do not want them. As I wrote earlier, reason is, they have no reason to do that. They will w8 for KarmaShareholders to do the hard job, to push Karma price up and than they will sale. KarmaShares holders are taking all the long-term risk and do not have an option to take short-term profit.
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July 01, 2014, 10:59:59 AM
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Hi! We are the Hitbtc team. Hitbtc is the most advanced exchange. Now everyone can vote for their favorite currency to be added to Hitbtc. You can start voting here: https://hitbtc.com/vote

Among the latest currencies taking part in our vote is Karmacoin. So we invite all of you to take part in voting to add KARM to Hitbtc.
Votes from registered users will be multiplied x10!

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July 01, 2014, 11:45:28 AM
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Socoban, on the first page of this thread and on Karmashares.com you can see that if you trade your coins for shares, you will get 1.75 multiplier. So, you are mistaken about this. I as a KARMA investor am totally against that somebody who missed the Quantum periods to get more than 1.75. Actually if it was up to me, I would  definitely lower this ratio.


I am not suggesting to increase ratio to 5x, but to decrease revenue for KARMA coin, or to make Shares trade-able. And it really does not matter what is written in Bitcointalk forum, if official web page says something else. We are searching for new blood, new blood does not read this thread. Official web page makes Karma Coin much more valuable compared to KarmaShares than it really is. Those information on that page are simply not true. As someone said, most of KarmaShares is hold by 15 people. We need to get hundreds of new shareholders. Those shareholders will bring new Expensive Karma Coins to the project. First investors bought KarmaCoin for 10-40 litoshi. They got 5-10x multiplier for shares. KarmaCoin is now at 450 litoshi. The revenue for early shareholders is 50-100x higher than for those who come now. So those new investors have to pay 50x more money to get same shares as early shareholders got. But KarmaShares company need new investors. We need new money to be thrown into project. The more people invest into KarmaShares, the more value those shares have. We need new blood and new money to be thrown into new projects.  Hence we need to make KarmaShares attractive. They are not attractive now. Karma coins holders does not help KarmaShares company, only KarmaShares holders help it.

Hey ~ when karma is under 10 latoshi
that time many people didn't buy karmacoins
But over serveral month, the dev and team goes their own way under that price
And the period of multiple-share changing was over one month!
Then the price goes high it's become unfair?
All chance are opened for all and someone get the chance under darkness season
and someone get the chance more clear time
High risk high return. Low risk low return.

The bit is also under 10 bucks just an years ago
That time people bought that for earning money? no. Just fun to buy.
But now people buy bits over 600buck. That's unfair??
Share is too. If the LLC is really good? Then many people invest
If not? They didn't invest
Don't focus on missing bus.
There are many great things still exist! Wink

karmacoin was over 10 satoshi passtime.
I saw the price of my karmacoins decreased 5000%
care with the price of bitcoin that time. 7500% decreased!!
Karma has passed really dark time. And now cameback
I want to give you this patience and potential of karmacoin^^

Good luck~!


Hmm, I don't think you understand the text I have written. I am early shareholder, I have bought my Shares cheap. But what I see, there is no interest in KarmaShares. Peope are buying Karma to hold it and sell it, not to trade it for KarmaShares. Hence it means something is wrong. If price increase of Karma is driven by KarmaShares company, than KarmaShares should be hot like gold. They are not. People do not want them. As I wrote earlier, reason is, they have no reason to that. They will w8 for KarmaShareholders to do the hard job, to push Karma price up and than they will sale. KarmaShares holders are taking all the longterm risk and do not have an option to take short-term profit.

Socoban, I can see you point. More Shares should be sold. Principally, yes you are right and the team wil look into this as soon as we get some breathing betweeen all the stuff we are doing. There are more things to consider with the shares than you mentioned and be assured that we will not forget this issue. However, please be a bit patient now until we implemented the technical changes wrt to x11 and sidechain. Thank you, your KarmaKaguy

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July 01, 2014, 11:54:59 AM
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Socoban, on the first page of this thread and on Karmashares.com you can see that if you trade your coins for shares, you will get 1.75 multiplier. So, you are mistaken about this. I as a KARMA investor am totally against that somebody who missed the Quantum periods to get more than 1.75. Actually if it was up to me, I would  definitely lower this ratio.


I am not suggesting to increase ratio to 5x, but to decrease revenue for KARMA coin, or to make Shares trade-able. And it really does not matter what is written in Bitcointalk forum, if official web page says something else. We are searching for new blood, new blood does not read this thread. Official web page makes Karma Coin much more valuable compared to KarmaShares than it really is. Those information on that page are simply not true. As someone said, most of KarmaShares is hold by 15 people. We need to get hundreds of new shareholders. Those shareholders will bring new Expensive Karma Coins to the project. First investors bought KarmaCoin for 10-40 litoshi. They got 5-10x multiplier for shares. KarmaCoin is now at 450 litoshi. The revenue for early shareholders is 50-100x higher than for those who come now. So those new investors have to pay 50x more money to get same shares as early shareholders got. But KarmaShares company need new investors. We need new money to be thrown into project. The more people invest into KarmaShares, the more value those shares have. We need new blood and new money to be thrown into new projects.  Hence we need to make KarmaShares attractive. They are not attractive now. Karma coins holders does not help KarmaShares company, only KarmaShares holders help it.

It is written on Karmashares.com which is the official website:
How Many Shares Do I Get?
You will get 1 point for every 1,000 coins exchanged.
There is a 5,000,000 coin minimum.
There is no limit on the number of points you can claim


Can I Still Participate After May 10, 2014?
Of course. We are reserving points for all 92 billion coins. But keep in mind that if you want shares after May 10, 2014 you'll only get a 1.75x point multiple when you exchange coins.

So, you get 1 point for 1000 coins which will be multiplied by 1.75.
If you have suggestions how to improve and make more transparent the info on all KARMA sites make a proposal to KarmaTeam, but try not to just throw "simply not true".
Actually, the most important thing in Content Management and Knowledge Management is to have the same info on all information resources. So, yes, it is very important what is written on OP here. It is equally important to all KARMA sites, pools, forums, etc. I presume that you are fan of "Vampire diaries ", "Twilight" and "True Blood". I am also. lol. Grin New blood will come, don`t worry. About who is reading and who is not. Actually I doubt that somebody has statistics who is reading what. So we can`t just throw that "nobody is reading here or elsewhere". BTW, a very good idea came from this. If somebody can accumulate data stats for all KARMA sites and here, it will be invaluable from marketing perspective.
Of course with the growing of KARMA the coin, raising funds and develop projects, new investors will come. And believe me, they will not  be small time so called "whales" because they run 1000 or 2000 bitcoins for speculations. As you know KARMA is ment to be and will be multi billion corporation and if I paraphrase somebody known to us, I will say that in this future time only the glass of your watch will be worth hundreds of bitcoins. We are not talking here of some home guy struggling to compile a wallet to start new clone. The Dev team knows what they are doing. They are just like you and me, but having vision, knowledge and skills that we don`t have. So we should trust them. As you know many thousands of dollars came from their pockets to create Karmashares and to revive KARMA. I am sure that they will figure it how to make shares possible and easy to trade. Let them first catch breath, enjoy the great things they have achieved and continue to path they have chosen. We all want shares to be able to trade. We are not insane not to. Resources are limited, so they must be pointed into the proper task, not scattered in many different directions.
Of course revenue for early adopters will be 50-100x than current prices. And current investors will get 50-100 more revenue than the people who will buy at 300-600 satoshi. This is obvious. I don`t understand why should we discuss it. Is it just a reminder to those who still don`t have shares and KARMA to hurry? Karmashares are very, very attractive. They are not less attractive than yesterday or two moths ago. So, if somebody missed to buy, tell them to hurry, until KARMA the coin is still on this low levels. Understand one thing. This idea of Karmashares is genius. It helps the coin and vice versa. So, it is just the opposite. Share holders helps coin holders and coin holders helps Karmashares holders. Go to our forum discussion to see how funding will be maintained and you will understand this concept.
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July 01, 2014, 11:55:10 AM
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Hi! We are the Hitbtc team. Hitbtc is the most advanced exchange. Now everyone can vote for their favorite currency to be added to Hitbtc. You can start voting here: https://hitbtc.com/vote

Among the latest currencies taking part in our vote is Karmacoin. So we invite all of you to take part in voting to add KARM to Hitbtc.
Votes from registered users will be multiplied x10!

If this isn't an invitation I don't know what is. This hasn't only been posted here so lets get cracking.

I encourage everyone to sign up to the site and vote every day. Approximately every 24 hours I'll post an update here on our progress and remind people to vote. We don't need the most votes, we just need to show our potential.

Day 0:
Rank 1: Nxt  17398 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 2: GlobalBoost 12810 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 3: BlackCoin 9900 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 4: NFD Coin 7771 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 5: Latium 4819 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 6: Mintcoin 2286 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 7: Vertcoin 1294 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 8: Monero  1000 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 9: NEMcoin 935 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 10: Nascoin 515 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 25: Reddcoin 165 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 26: Karmacoin 162 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 27: Mjollnircoin 150 (24 Hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)

Do you really think any of them are better than Karma?

Sign up to (https://hitbtc.com/vote) then vote. Make sure you sign in so your vote is worth 10 times as much.

To get 1000 points it only takes 10 people voting for 10 points every day for 10 days. Lets get started.

Chargin.

Vote to get Karma listed on this exchange: https://hitbtc.com/vote (sign up to get a vote for 10 points, vote once every 24 hrs)
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July 01, 2014, 12:01:04 PM
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Socoban, on the first page of this thread and on Karmashares.com you can see that if you trade your coins for shares, you will get 1.75 multiplier. So, you are mistaken about this. I as a KARMA investor am totally against that somebody who missed the Quantum periods to get more than 1.75. Actually if it was up to me, I would  definitely lower this ratio.


I am not suggesting to increase ratio to 5x, but to decrease revenue for KARMA coin, or to make Shares trade-able. And it really does not matter what is written in Bitcointalk forum, if official web page says something else. We are searching for new blood, new blood does not read this thread. Official web page makes Karma Coin much more valuable compared to KarmaShares than it really is. Those information on that page are simply not true. As someone said, most of KarmaShares is hold by 15 people. We need to get hundreds of new shareholders. Those shareholders will bring new Expensive Karma Coins to the project. First investors bought KarmaCoin for 10-40 litoshi. They got 5-10x multiplier for shares. KarmaCoin is now at 450 litoshi. The revenue for early shareholders is 50-100x higher than for those who come now. So those new investors have to pay 50x more money to get same shares as early shareholders got. But KarmaShares company need new investors. We need new money to be thrown into project. The more people invest into KarmaShares, the more value those shares have. We need new blood and new money to be thrown into new projects.  Hence we need to make KarmaShares attractive. They are not attractive now. Karma coins holders does not help KarmaShares company, only KarmaShares holders help it.

Hey ~ when karma is under 10 latoshi
that time many people didn't buy karmacoins
But over serveral month, the dev and team goes their own way under that price
And the period of multiple-share changing was over one month!
Then the price goes high it's become unfair?
All chance are opened for all and someone get the chance under darkness season
and someone get the chance more clear time
High risk high return. Low risk low return.

The bit is also under 10 bucks just an years ago
That time people bought that for earning money? no. Just fun to buy.
But now people buy bits over 600buck. That's unfair??
Share is too. If the LLC is really good? Then many people invest
If not? They didn't invest
Don't focus on missing bus.
There are many great things still exist! Wink

karmacoin was over 10 satoshi passtime.
I saw the price of my karmacoins decreased 5000%
care with the price of bitcoin that time. 7500% decreased!!
Karma has passed really dark time. And now cameback
I want to give you this patience and potential of karmacoin^^

Good luck~!


Hmm, I don't think you understand the text I have written. I am early shareholder, I have bought my Shares cheap. But what I see, there is no interest in KarmaShares. Peope are buying Karma to hold it and sell it, not to trade it for KarmaShares. Hence it means something is wrong. If price increase of Karma is driven by KarmaShares company, than KarmaShares should be hot like gold. They are not. People do not want them. As I wrote earlier, reason is, they have no reason to do that. They will w8 for KarmaShareholders to do the hard job, to push Karma price up and than they will sale. KarmaShares holders are taking all the long-term risk and do not have an option to take short-term profit.

I understand what you say.
Right in crytoworld. There is no reason to hold share
It's slow compare with pump and dump coins
But I think there will be a big wipe out season around clone coins
Then trading incomes decreased I think.
Then the 'bitcoins' from LLc is good reason to hold.

But most important thing is the real value of LLc.
And sustainability. If karmacoin has sustainability, the LLc industries goes well
on this foundation. Then, the it's not to late to chage coins to karma.
But to change the multiple share changing portion to make more people change
coins into share is considerable!
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July 01, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
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Hi! We are the Hitbtc team. Hitbtc is the most advanced exchange. Now everyone can vote for their favorite currency to be added to Hitbtc. You can start voting here: https://hitbtc.com/vote

Among the latest currencies taking part in our vote is Karmacoin. So we invite all of you to take part in voting to add KARM to Hitbtc.
Votes from registered users will be multiplied x10!

If this isn't an invitation I don't know what is. This hasn't only been posted here so lets get cracking.

I encourage everyone to sign up to the site and vote every day. Approximately every 24 hours I'll post an update here on our progress and remind people to vote. We don't need the most votes, we just need to show our potential.

Day 0:
Rank 1: Nxt  17398 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 2: GlobalBoost 12810 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 3: BlackCoin 9900 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 4: NFD Coin 7771 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 5: Latium 4819 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 6: Mintcoin 2286 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 7: Vertcoin 1294 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 8: Monero  1000 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 9: NEMcoin 935 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 10: Nascoin 515 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 25: Reddcoin 165 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 26: Karmacoin 162 (24 hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)
Rank 27: Mjollnircoin 150 (24 Hr gain +0) (last 7 days gain +0) (gain since day 0 +0)

Do you really think any of them are better than Karma?

Sign up to (https://hitbtc.com/vote) then vote. Make sure you sign in so your vote is worth 10 times as much.

To get 1000 points it only takes 10 people voting for 10 points every day for 10 days. Lets get started.

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July 01, 2014, 12:14:55 PM
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Im a karmashares investor

Is it important to sign my transaction or not?



hello?

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Im a karmashares investor

Is it important to sign my transaction or not?



hello?

as far as I am aware of, you dont have to. It is important that you send it from the local wallet and not from an exchange. Please pm Kosmost with the txid and your btc payout address after you did the transaction. Sorry for the delay in answering your question. Contact the team if you have any further questions or problems.

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Im a karmashares investor

Is it important to sign my transaction or not?



hello?

As KarmaKaguy have said, excuse the delay.

When exchanging your coins to karmashares, you simply send it to the proper Karma address. But once the profit shares are to be sent out to karmashare holders like you, it is important for you to send a BTC Address with your signature. This is to ensure that the sender of KARMA and the claimant of the profit share is one and the same.

TIP ME ₭ARMA:  KJeEKJv1LXHM8cYeRgQG3q87BFA4W3sTGg  FOR KARMA TRANSLATION BUDGET SEND TO: KHvkhA7RTFnG8N5RWPB48gs2y8K1od6xF4
OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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My desinger make qute & fun version karma wallpaper

I use it Smiley

Next version will be look nice version Wink
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